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Hi, I want to make some steel bars 36" long with a cross section of roughly
0.5" x 0.128", but i would like to have a couple of inches of threaded rod on one end. Is it posible to make this from one piece steel? I considered either starting with the flat bar and hammering / machining(no idea how) one end into a rod shape or starting with a rod and flattening it off for most of the bar. Are either of these aproaches feasible? (Btw i know very little about metalwork) thanks, chris |
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Hi, I want to make some steel bars 36" long with a cross section of roughly
0.5" x 0.128", but i would like to have a couple of inches of threaded rod on one end. Is it posible to make this from one piece steel? I considered either starting with the flat bar and hammering / machining(no idea how) one end into a rod shape or starting with a rod and flattening it off for most of the bar. Are either of these aproaches feasible? (Btw i know very little about metalwork) thanks, chris Why not just weld the threaded rod onto the end of the flat bar? Ken. 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. |
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Consider a 0.5" x 1/8" tool steel flat of 36" length. That'd be within
0.003" of your specified 0.128" dimennsion. For the threaded 2" you could mill away the end to leave a 0.5" x 0.125" x 2" and then build up the end's flat center piece with silver soldered slabs to 0.5". You'd have a 2" long bar of aprox. 1/2" square that could be turned down on even filed down to a round for threading. Bob Swinney "chrisj" te@bag wrote in message ... Hi, I want to make some steel bars 36" long with a cross section of roughly 0.5" x 0.128", but i would like to have a couple of inches of threaded rod on one end. Is it posible to make this from one piece steel? I considered either starting with the flat bar and hammering / machining(no idea how) one end into a rod shape or starting with a rod and flattening it off for most of the bar. Are either of these aproaches feasible? (Btw i know very little about metalwork) thanks, chris |
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"chrisj" wrote: Hi, I want to make some steel bars 36" long with a cross section of roughly 0.5" x 0.128", but i would like to have a couple of inches of threaded rod on one end. (clip)(Btw i know very little about metalwork) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Why does it have to be made of one piece? How many of these do you need? Are you trying to do it yourself with no metal working skills and no tools? Are you willing to pay a shop to do it for you? Have you exhausted all alernatives, such as welding, drilling and bolting, drilling and hooking, etc? |
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I would start with two separate parts and join them by overlapping and
welding, butt welding, welding after either piece is slotted for the other, overlapping and riveting (with ground or machined flats if desired), or slotting the rod and riveting the strap in the slot. Just depends on how you want it to look, the available tools, and which you consider easiest. Don Young "chrisj" te@bag wrote in message ... Hi, I want to make some steel bars 36" long with a cross section of roughly 0.5" x 0.128", but i would like to have a couple of inches of threaded rod on one end. Is it posible to make this from one piece steel? I considered either starting with the flat bar and hammering / machining(no idea how) one end into a rod shape or starting with a rod and flattening it off for most of the bar. Are either of these aproaches feasible? (Btw i know very little about metalwork) thanks, chris |
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" "Leo Lichtman" wrote in message Why does it have to be made of one piece? How many of these do you need? Are you trying to do it yourself with no metal working skills and no tools? Are you willing to pay a shop to do it for you? Have you exhausted all alernatives, such as welding, drilling and bolting, drilling and hooking, etc? It is going to be under tension (around 50-70 lbs) so i figured a single piece would be better, but now I am not sure its important, flattening the rod and overlapping the weld seems like it would be plenty strong enough to join 2 pieces. Don Young" wrote in message ... I would start with two separate parts and join them by overlapping and welding, That sounds like a very good idea, overlapping and welding. I have access to a mig, arc, and oxy aceteline(spelling?) welders, (luckily my brother is a tool greedy mechanic), which would be best for such small work? I have a very small amount of experience with each but can allways get my brother to teach me what is needed. I would ask him to do it but he is a bit rough and ready for my liking, no finesse' at all ;-) thanks for all the replys! chris |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:24:13 +0100, "chrisj" te@bag wrote:
" "Leo Lichtman" wrote in message Why does it have to be made of one piece? How many of these do you need? Are you trying to do it yourself with no metal working skills and no tools? Are you willing to pay a shop to do it for you? Have you exhausted all alernatives, such as welding, drilling and bolting, drilling and hooking, etc? It is going to be under tension (around 50-70 lbs) so i figured a single piece would be better, but now I am not sure its important, flattening the rod and overlapping the weld seems like it would be plenty strong enough to join 2 pieces. Don Young" wrote in message ... I would start with two separate parts and join them by overlapping and welding, That sounds like a very good idea, overlapping and welding. I have access to a mig, arc, and oxy aceteline(spelling?) welders, (luckily my brother is a tool greedy mechanic), which would be best for such small work? I have a very small amount of experience with each but can allways get my brother to teach me what is needed. I would ask him to do it but he is a bit rough and ready for my liking, no finesse' at all ;-) I would recommend brazing it with oxyacetylene That would have ample strength for 50 to 70 lb, and it's quite easy for a beginner to get right. |
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