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Dave in MD
 
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Default newbie question - drilling big holes in steel plate

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave


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Ernie Leimkuhler
 
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wrote:

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave




You will kill a normal hole saw pretty fast with that thick of a bar.

What you want is a rotabroach.

www.hougen.com/
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Jon Elson
 
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Dave in MD wrote:
I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave



You can also use a flycutter. You need to clamp the workpiece
securely on the table. There is an adjustable cutting tool on
an arm. Cutting all the way through thick material is tricky,
as it often causes chatter. You may have to move the cutting point
in and out to open up an annular ring before advancing deeper,
and then make a finishing pass at the final diameter.
If your drill chuck is not securely attached, it may come off at a bad time.

Jon

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Stephen Young
 
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Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
In article , Dave in MD
wrote:


I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave





You will kill a normal hole saw pretty fast with that thick of a bar.

What you want is a rotabroach.

www.hougen.com/


I use hole saws in this thick of material quite often - they last for
me. I'm not saying it's the fastest - just that it works & the saw lasts
as long as you use cutting oils.

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Mickey Feldman
 
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 22:07:24 -0500, "Dave in MD"
wrote:

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?


If by 'bar' you mean flat, rather than round stock, yes. The least
expensive and most readily available home shop type tool that I know
of to do this would be a fly cutter. Chucks in drill press, has pilot
drill and adjustable arm perpendicular to axis of drill, lathe type
single point tool is held parallel to drill and appropriate distance
from drill. With care, patient appropriate speed and cutting fluid you
can cut holes several inches (like 6, anyway) in diameter with one of
these. Even places like home depot have cheap ones, tho' if you go
this route I'd suggest getting the beefiest one you can find.

Mickey


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Grant Erwin
 
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I think I would chain-drill around your hole and then clean up with the
Armstrong milling machine (a round file). Buy a new top quality file with
a handle - splurge, it will be maybe $5. I used a brand new round file the
other day for the first time in my life (hey, I've acquired a *lot* of used
files in my day) and oh man did it cut!

Grant Erwin

Dave in MD wrote:

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave



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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 22:07:24 -0500, "Dave in MD"
wrote:

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave

How big is your drill press chuck and how much horsepower does it
have? I may have a drill this big I could grind the shank down for
you.

Gunner

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Steve Lusardi
 
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Dave,
I often have to drill holes that are that large and larger. When I do not
have the correct drill, I drill to the closest size smaller and then mount a
boring head for a milling machine. The boring head that I use has a number 3
morse taper shank. Even though I do not have an automatic quill feed on my
drill, a steady hand and patience does a perfect job.
Steve

"Dave in MD" wrote in message
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I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild

steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a

hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave




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MP Toolman
 
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An APT Multi-Tool would be the perfect tool for your application.
Specifically designed for drilling large holes with low horsepower machines
lacking rigidity like most drill presses andr mag base drills. I have never
used one for 1 inch thick steel, but I see no reason it would not work.
Basicly it is an interchangeable blade spade drill with a pilot. First drill a
3/4 inch hole with a conventional drill bit (or multiple steps working up to
3/4 inch.) The 3/4 inch pilot on the Multi-Tool is guided by the initial
drilled hole. For bigger holes there are 1.5 and 2 inch interchangeable pilots
so the hole can be done in multiple steps, but you will not need that for your
1 5/16 hole. I have a spare set, but many of the blades can use touching up.
I have been trying to get around to sharpening the blades so I can list it on
ebay, but I have not had my surface grinder fired up for a while.

Mill


I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave



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Default BURNING big holes in steel plate

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch)
hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel..........
It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm
making doesn't require super
high precision.


Here's one that some machinists will recoil at, but with a steady hand a
good result can be gotten:

Cutting torch, fine tip. Turn the material on its side and pierce a hole
through the middle. Then clamp the material flat with the hole overhanging
the edge of a welding table, and carve your hole to its final dimension.
Dress it with a high-speed rotary rasp.

Fast, lots of fireworks, cool hissing sound as the steel burns. Voila!




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"Dave in MD" wrote in message ...
I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave


If you only have one or 2 holes and you have lots of patience, the
hole saw will work. You'll need a very slow spindle speed (50 rpm?). A
helpful trick that I would suggest using is to drill a 1/4" hole
through the plate right on the edge of the hole saw's path, so the
chips and oil will drain out of the groove made by the saw teeth and
allow fresh oil to enter the cut. Use dark cutting oil, not fluids
like tapmagic whivh will evaporate from the heat.
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 22:07:24 -0500, "Dave in MD"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

I have drilled 1.25" holes in steel on a press using a normal 1.25"
drill bit in the chuck. Works. Not cheap. BUt I had a few to do, and
will have more. However, lots of cooling or cutting compound is a good
idea, along with working up to the size and taking it easy on the
larger holes. My press runs at 200 RPM lowest, and it was pushing it.
I would say 400 RPM is way too fast.

I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave


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George
 
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I was thinking about how well the old fashion hand operated force feed drills
seemed to work and I thought of taking your piloted spade bit a step further. The
pilot could easily have a fine thread to draw it forward. With a 40 tpi thread all
it would take would be 40 turns and your through. Nice continuous .025" thick chip
all the way in a pool of cutting oil. Just need some low speed power source to
keeper turnin.

MP Toolman wrote:

An APT Multi-Tool would be the perfect tool for your application.
Specifically designed for drilling large holes with low horsepower machines
lacking rigidity like most drill presses andr mag base drills. I have never
used one for 1 inch thick steel, but I see no reason it would not work.
Basicly it is an interchangeable blade spade drill with a pilot. First drill a
3/4 inch hole with a conventional drill bit (or multiple steps working up to
3/4 inch.) The 3/4 inch pilot on the Multi-Tool is guided by the initial
drilled hole. For bigger holes there are 1.5 and 2 inch interchangeable pilots
so the hole can be done in multiple steps, but you will not need that for your
1 5/16 hole. I have a spare set, but many of the blades can use touching up.
I have been trying to get around to sharpening the blades so I can list it on
ebay, but I have not had my surface grinder fired up for a while.

Mill


I'd like to drill a 1 5/16" (1.3125 inch) hole in a 1 inch thick mild steel
bar. I only have a drill press in my shop. Is there a way to drill a hole
this big in a home shop, without a milling machine?

It has been suggested I try a HSS hole saw at low RPM (less than 400) with
plenty of cutting fluid.

It doesn't have to be pretty, and the jig I'm making doesn't require super
high precision.

Thanks,
Dave


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