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OT - Electric Chainsaws Any Good?
Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs
into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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Electric chain saws do work, but are slower than the gas powered ones.
For small diameter wood I use a circular saw that I made. Just a 10 inch dia. blade on a belt driven mandrel. 1.5 hp motor. No tilt or blade height adjustment. It is not all that quiet ( I wear ear muffs ), but quicker than a chain saw for small diameter stuff. Dan Laurie Forbes wrote: Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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I have a small one for "light" trimming which works well for green wood up
to about 6 inch dia. I've found that with dry wood, it doesn't seem to work nearly as well. But it is quiet and extremely convenient! Ace "Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:dJ0Qe.216076$tt5.9078@edtnps90... Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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I do use a chainsaw occasionally, but not enough to make it worthwhile
to buy one. Much more economical to rent one from United Rentals ($20 for 4 hours) when I need it. They keep it maintained, fueled, etc and the saws they have are much better than any I could afford to buy. All my garden tools are electric (lawn mower, weed wacker, rototiller) so the effort of keeping gas and oil around for a tool I use maybe twice a year isn't worth it. My point is that you might be better off renting a better gas saw than buying a new electric one. |
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I've used an electric chain saw for years as a second saw, and as long as
its sharp it will cut thru anything in the blade range. and yes its slower, but you get what you pay for. And is handy to just plug in and go. gary "Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:dJ0Qe.216076$tt5.9078@edtnps90... Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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I purchased a Stihl E20 eleven years ago...don't know if they are still
made, but mine is every bit as strong a cutter as my Stihl 026. It pulls 15 amps. F46 |
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Laurie
I'd say get ye to the saw shop. Ask the experts and try one out. Avoid the warehouse stores. I use one for limbing and such and to do a bit of trimming in the woodshed if some pieces are a bit to big for the stove. I would not even consider using it for any large amount of work. What is your definition of a log? Around here it is something on the order of 30-40" in diameter. An electric saw ain't gonna do it on something like that. lg no neat sig line "Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:dJ0Qe.216076$tt5.9078@edtnps90... Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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Laurie Forbes wrote:
Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. I borrow my neighbor's electric on the rare occasion I need a chain saw. It works OK. It is possible to infer you are female, just by looking at your first name "Laurie" and so I will add, make sure when you're looking at one, that your hands are big enough to reach both the trigger and the little ~!@#$%^&*() button they make you push. My neighbor (a 75YO woman) does not have hands big enough, so when she has to cut up fallen branches, etc. she calls me. I figure fair enough, she lets me borrow the saw anytime I want. Best way to own a chainsaw is to not own one, to have a neighbor who does. Get the chain sharpened occasionally, be the one to run for bar oil, always bring it back when you say and they'll happily loan it to you and then you don't have to store it! (ref. earlier threads on insufficient shop space ...) GWE |
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"Grant Erwin" wrote: (clip) Best way to own a chainsaw is to not own one, to have a neighbor who does. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So your advice is, talk your neighbor into buying a chain saw? Electric chain saws are very convenient, quiet and smoke-free. You can run one at night without waking the neighbors--you can run one in the garage without smelling the place up. They vary widely in price and quality. A good professional Stihl will perform just like a gasoline-powered saw, and will cost just as much. A little plug-in Remington won't do much work, and probably won't last long. For your needs, something in between will probably be the best choice. |
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Thanks to all for their helpful suggestions.
The "logs" I work with are pretty small stuff (up to about 8") and are aspen poplar so should be pretty easy to cut, even for an electric saw I hope. Volume of cutting isn't all that large either. After reviewing everyone's comments, I think I'll try it........ BTW, I'm of the male persuasion so don't let the name mislead or entice you Laurie Forbes "larry g" wrote in message ... Laurie I'd say get ye to the saw shop. Ask the experts and try one out. Avoid the warehouse stores. I use one for limbing and such and to do a bit of trimming in the woodshed if some pieces are a bit to big for the stove. I would not even consider using it for any large amount of work. What is your definition of a log? Around here it is something on the order of 30-40" in diameter. An electric saw ain't gonna do it on something like that. lg no neat sig line "Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:dJ0Qe.216076$tt5.9078@edtnps90... Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:41:45 GMT, the opaque "Laurie Forbes"
clearly wrote: Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie, I found a $40 Remington 14" electric chainsaw at Home Despot a decade ago and bought it. I do so little sawing that I'm still on the same chain and gallon of oil, but the quiet little beast still keeps on tickin' for me. I've cut maybe a cord worth of wood in all that time so it has definitely paid for itself. If you have much wood to cut, you'll have to weigh the higher cost and better durability of a new gas model against the cheaper, shorter-lived electric model. If I were cutting a couple cords a year, I'd definitely buy a good gas model. Since I'm not, the little electric works nicely. Before you buy a new one, talk with the local chainsaw repairman. He might be able to put (and keep) yours in shape for a lot less money and hassle. ================================================== ======== CAUTION: Do NOT look directly into laser with remaining eyeball! ================================================== ======== http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Design |
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"Laurie Forbes" wrote in message
news:dJ0Qe.216076$tt5.9078@edtnps90... | Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs | into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a | little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no | gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. | | Any suggestions appreciated............... | | Laurie Forbes I have a good friend who's a very good carpenter and he uses one a lot. Great for trimming framing out in situ. I especially liked its use one day while sitting out on the end of a 4 by 14 piece of parallam beam trimming the end off at a cant. Kinda scary leaning over and cutting, but it was the only thing that would have done the job. I've seen roofers use one to cut the plywood to fit. He laid the wood down, did a visual of where the cut should be and zipped through it in place. Beat the hell out of a worm drive, and he didn't have to bend over near as much. I can't recall if that one was gas or electric, though. |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:41:45 GMT, "Laurie Forbes"
wrote: Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes My father in law has one that just won't die. He put in a sprinkler system in his yard with one by cutting two rows through the grass and dirt for each pipe. It was down right funny to watch. He also wires it to the end of a swimming pool pole to cut branches off way up in the trees. |
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Laurie Forbes wrote:
Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes Electric chain saws are convenient, so long as you can reach your cutting area with a cord, but they're for cutting lighter limbs, I'd say up to about 3" or so. You can cut bigger diameters, but you'll notice a lack of power and extra wear and tear when cutting larger wood. They're also lightweight and easy to handle. I had a Homelite and it was a fair saw, but the parts were very expensive. For this reason, I would buy a different brand next time. Gary Brady Austin, TX |
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Sunworshipper wrote:
My father in law has one that just won't die. He put in a sprinkler system in his yard with one by cutting two rows through the grass and dirt for each pipe. It was down right funny to watch. He also wires it to the end of a swimming pool pole to cut branches off way up in the trees. I bet he doesn't live here in New England....That saw would have been toasted by rocks before it went four inches. The reason Horace Greely said "Go west young man" was because he was telling them to get away from the (expletive deleted)s rock laden New England farmlands. And FWIW, I've had a 16" McCullough electric chain saw for about ten years and it's served me well for yard work and making firewood out of small trees, up to about 8" diameter. A 100 foot cord puts it anywhere on my lot. Very convenient. Jeff (In Red Sox Country) -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
... "Grant Erwin" wrote: (clip) Best way to own a chainsaw is to not own one, to have a neighbor who does. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So your advice is, talk your neighbor into buying a chain saw? Electric chain saws are very convenient, quiet and smoke-free. You can run one at night without waking the neighbors--you can run one in the garage without smelling the place up. They vary widely in price and quality. A good professional Stihl will perform just like a gasoline-powered saw, and will cost just as much. A little plug-in Remington won't do much work, and probably won't last long. For your needs, something in between will probably be the best choice. Leo, I've checked Stihl's web site and they do not list an electric under their "professional" category. They do however list three electrics under a separate category, the MS 140, 180C and 220Q. Are either of those what you are referring to?? Laurie Forbes |
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for what it's worth, I have the Sthil 220Q with a 20 inch bar - it's a great
saw. I got it after running through a dozen sears and poulon electric saws (the best lasted about 45 minutes, the worst was broken out of the box), all failed due to a nylon gear stripping off of a steel shaft. the Sthil is 20X the price, but it has lasted - "Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:VO8Qe.244629$on1.73931@clgrps13... Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "Grant Erwin" wrote: (clip) Best way to own a chainsaw is to not own one, to have a neighbor who does. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So your advice is, talk your neighbor into buying a chain saw? Electric chain saws are very convenient, quiet and smoke-free. You can run one at night without waking the neighbors--you can run one in the garage without smelling the place up. They vary widely in price and quality. A good professional Stihl will perform just like a gasoline-powered saw, and will cost just as much. A little plug-in Remington won't do much work, and probably won't last long. For your needs, something in between will probably be the best choice. Leo, I've checked Stihl's web site and they do not list an electric under their "professional" category. They do however list three electrics under a separate category, the MS 140, 180C and 220Q. Are either of those what you are referring to?? Laurie Forbes |
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I have a Stihl 290 with a 20" bar for serious cutting plus a pair of
Remington Electric saws (10" and 14" bars) for lighter stuff. Electric saws work great for 2"-3", ok at 4" to 6", pretty wimpy at 8". They are also much safer (if anything is!) for pruning while working off of a ladder. No need to climb a ladder with a running saw! Keep in mind that the Remington saws are designed to last for about 6 hours of actual cutting time. The gear reduction is actually a nylon gear. I have picked up several at garage sales for $1, usually have a blown up aramature. Laurie Forbes wrote: Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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agree on the little saws - the Sthil that I have though will cut through 36
inch or more stumps (because that's how I use it, to split them in half to make bowl blanks, etc), and it will do it in rip or cross cut mode and not complain - and it won't quit after 6 hours either.... oddly the stihl has a lower horsepower rated motor than the cheaper saws that don't last as long - I guess those Sthil horses are better bred or something. "RoyJ" wrote in message nk.net... I have a Stihl 290 with a 20" bar for serious cutting plus a pair of Remington Electric saws (10" and 14" bars) for lighter stuff. Electric saws work great for 2"-3", ok at 4" to 6", pretty wimpy at 8". They are also much safer (if anything is!) for pruning while working off of a ladder. No need to climb a ladder with a running saw! Keep in mind that the Remington saws are designed to last for about 6 hours of actual cutting time. The gear reduction is actually a nylon gear. I have picked up several at garage sales for $1, usually have a blown up aramature. Laurie Forbes wrote: Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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"Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:VO8Qe.244629$on1.73931@clgrps13... Leo, I've checked Stihl's web site and they do not list an electric under their "professional" category. They do however list three electrics under a separate category, the MS 140, 180C and 220Q. Are either of those what you are referring to?? Laurie Forbes More or less the term professional means just that. But.....it also designates that it was made in Germany, rest are made in the US. Although that is changing as Stihl makes a greater presence in the US, factory (NJ I think). If you can afford any of the Stihls you are better off. I have more Stihls than I can shake a stick at, and all with no major problems. My father is on his third cheapo chain saw, while still have my two Stihls. If you total up those three cheapos, plus the frustration, travel, time, etc, to replace them, I am sure that I am ahead. Plus Stihls are actually supported by a network of dealers, something you do not see these days. My local dealer is excellent, and I have had equipment repaired there while I wait. Try that at HD. Most of the dealers are top notch, and Stihl proudly advertises this. They also advertise proudly that you will not find them in a big box store. Long short of it, over the long run, you get what you pay for. At my local dealer, you often see 30 year old saws coming in for tune-ups. Chris |
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"Sunworshipper" wrote in message news My father in law has one that just won't die. He also wires it to the end of a swimming pool pole to cut branches off way up in the trees. Never fear, those two should line up pretty soon. Chris |
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"william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1125209517.79c83ce3a7ff782041c942bdd8ac76b9@t eranews... oddly the stihl has a lower horsepower rated motor That most likely comes from German consumer laws. Put Sears over there with their "6 maximum developed horsepower" shop-vac and see how long it is before they are heavily fined" Chris |
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Mine works fine as long as I stay within power cord range. It also goes
on a pole and makes a bonzer pole saw. Got it from HF. Bugs |
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Electric chainsaws work just fine but they are not built as tou gh as
gas ones. My Remington 16in has stripped out a plastic gear twice, ($14) and broken another part($10). I wouldn't buy another Remington. Local Sears has a 16" for 60 bucks on sale right now.Looks to be made of better materials I cut some pretty big logs with that other one both fresh and dry and it never bogged down, Just finally broke. |
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"william_b_noble" wrote in message
news:1125196765.523478a2a54949270d7b2e41771e1bf2@t eranews... for what it's worth, I have the Sthil 220Q with a 20 inch bar - it's a great saw. I got it after running through a dozen sears and poulon electric saws (the best lasted about 45 minutes, the worst was broken out of the box), all failed due to a nylon gear stripping off of a steel shaft. the Sthil is 20X the price, but it has lasted - Talked to a Sthil dealer yesterday who mentioned the electrics have a narrower blade and are more prone to breakage unless only light cuts are made. Is that the case with the 220Q?? Was also wondering what type of sawing you did with it. Laurie Forbes |
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what your dealer said is not true. I use the saw to cut large bowl blanks
out of "urban lumber" - e.g. tree stumps/trunks - so if I find a 36 inch diamter trunk, I'll cut a 36 inch length of it, and then split it lengthwise. I've had no trouble cutting full bar length with this saw. In doing research for it, I found a lumber company that uses them - they bring a portable generator to the job site and use the electric saws - they say it greatly reduces fatigue and noise and pollution, and that the saws last longer, etc. It is certainly true that the $40 electric chain saws are not good for much except cutting 3 inch branches - as I noted before, I went through a full dozen of them, each replaced by OSH under warranty before I said "this is obviously not working out, let's just call it quits" and bought the Sthil - I tried both of the electric Sthils (180 and 220) - the 220 had better features, and a higher price - having gone through a dozen cheapies, I decided to splurge. I think it was the right decision. "Laurie Forbes" wrote in message news:EdlQe.244816$on1.11574@clgrps13... "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1125196765.523478a2a54949270d7b2e41771e1bf2@t eranews... for what it's worth, I have the Sthil 220Q with a 20 inch bar - it's a great saw. I got it after running through a dozen sears and poulon electric saws (the best lasted about 45 minutes, the worst was broken out of the box), all failed due to a nylon gear stripping off of a steel shaft. the Sthil is 20X the price, but it has lasted - Talked to a Sthil dealer yesterday who mentioned the electrics have a narrower blade and are more prone to breakage unless only light cuts are made. Is that the case with the 220Q?? Was also wondering what type of sawing you did with it. Laurie Forbes |
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"william_b_noble" wrote in message
news:1125248408.80108baf4eb524f7cf22fa442814c483@t eranews... what your dealer said is not true. I use the saw to cut large bowl blanks out of "urban lumber" - e.g. tree stumps/trunks - so if I find a 36 inch diamter trunk, I'll cut a 36 inch length of it, and then split it lengthwise. I've had no trouble cutting full bar length with this saw. In doing research for it, I found a lumber company that uses them - they bring a portable generator to the job site and use the electric saws - they say it greatly reduces fatigue and noise and pollution, and that the saws last longer, etc. Interesting. It is certainly true that the $40 electric chain saws are not good for much except cutting 3 inch branches - as I noted before, I went through a full dozen of them, each replaced by OSH under warranty before I said "this is obviously not working out, let's just call it quits" and bought the Sthil - I tried both of the electric Sthils (180 and 220) - the 220 had better features, and a higher price - having gone through a dozen cheapies, I decided to splurge. I think it was the right decision. Excellent - someone also mentioned the advantage of being able to use it in the basement (haul a log inside during winter and cut it up indoors) Thanks........... Laurie Forbes |
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I wouldn't be without one. For limbs under 6" it works just fine, and
you don't have to mess with fuel, and you can start and stop as needed. It's also a good bit quieter. For $40 how can you go wrong? - - Rex Burkheimer Fort Worth TX Laurie Forbes wrote: Was wondering if an electric chainsaw would be worthwhile for cutting logs into fireplace length (power is nearby). My old gas saw is cranky and a little worn out so need a replacement but the allure of less noise and no gas/fumes/hard to start etc. seems compelling. Any suggestions appreciated............... Laurie Forbes |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:40:06 GMT, "Laurie Forbes"
wrote: "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1125248408.80108baf4eb524f7cf22fa442814c483@ teranews... what your dealer said is not true. I use the saw to cut large bowl blanks out of "urban lumber" - e.g. tree stumps/trunks - so if I find a 36 inch diamter trunk, I'll cut a 36 inch length of it, and then split it lengthwise. I've had no trouble cutting full bar length with this saw. In doing research for it, I found a lumber company that uses them - they bring a portable generator to the job site and use the electric saws - they say it greatly reduces fatigue and noise and pollution, and that the saws last longer, etc. Interesting. It is certainly true that the $40 electric chain saws are not good for much except cutting 3 inch branches - as I noted before, I went through a full dozen of them, each replaced by OSH under warranty before I said "this is obviously not working out, let's just call it quits" and bought the Sthil - I tried both of the electric Sthils (180 and 220) - the 220 had better features, and a higher price - having gone through a dozen cheapies, I decided to splurge. I think it was the right decision. Excellent - someone also mentioned the advantage of being able to use it in the basement (haul a log inside during winter and cut it up indoors) Thanks........... Laurie Forbes They are also handy for trimmng the bottom of a Christmas tree in your living room...though I use my Sawzall G Gunner |
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That long? I bought a Remington electric to use around the house
because my Husqvarna is very loud. Within an hour the plastic studs that connect the housings in the chain area began to split. It still works due to a lot of patching but I'll never buy another one like it. I've found that I can file a bow saw to cut about as fast as an electric chain saw and much faster than a recip saw, even with a pruning blade. The bow saw pushes small branches down against the sawbuck instead of grabbing and lifting them like a chain saw. A 4x6" metalcutting bandsaw with a 6-8 pitch blade at the highest speed isn't too bad for cutting firewood up to ~6". It doesn't cut terribly fast but you can work the saw with one hand and feed in a long trunk with the other hand more easily than with a chainsaw. jw |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:19:49 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote: .. A little plug-in Remington won't do much work, and probably won't last long. For your needs, something in between will probably be the best choice. I bought a 12" Remington in '85 to take down a poplar in the yard. The original chain plus two others yard sale chains are pretty much worn out by most of my neighbours so a couple years ago I invested in a new one for 12 bucks. I figure I saved over $100 by buying it in the first place and still have the tool when needed. If I lived in the country, or heated with wood, it would be totally inadequate, but for the average city dweller, it is the way to go. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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