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Plasma Cutters???
Jeniffer Ness wrote:
Hi Guys, Looking for a Plasma Cutter. So many choices with little understanding. This is for my boy friend as a HBD gift. Yes I know.... $$$$$.. He's worth it.. Ok... Machine tourch. Cutting at most thickness is 1/2 steel. But he does mostly lighter materials. I can't tell what he has now, but I know we are building a new workshop that will have 220v service for his cutters.. Whats the best? What is the one that uses the least comsumables (if used right) and does the most percision cuts? Does he really need 220v? If so why? I read those specs and they all claim to be the best...They are all greek to me. Who's right? Give it me straight.. I am ready to break out the CC but I want what is right. Thanks Jen Crossposting to rec.crafts.metalworking. Fred |
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Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2",
consumables are readily available. GWE ff wrote: Jeniffer Ness wrote: Hi Guys, Looking for a Plasma Cutter. So many choices with little understanding. This is for my boy friend as a HBD gift. Yes I know.... $$$$$.. He's worth it.. Ok... Machine tourch. Cutting at most thickness is 1/2 steel. But he does mostly lighter materials. I can't tell what he has now, but I know we are building a new workshop that will have 220v service for his cutters.. Whats the best? What is the one that uses the least comsumables (if used right) and does the most percision cuts? Does he really need 220v? If so why? I read those specs and they all claim to be the best...They are all greek to me. Who's right? Give it me straight.. I am ready to break out the CC but I want what is right. Thanks Jen Crossposting to rec.crafts.metalworking. Fred |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. GWE I'll agree with Grant on that, I've been very happy with Hypertherm products and service people. The other name that seems to have respect here is Thermal Dynamics. John ff wrote: Jeniffer Ness wrote: Hi Guys, Looking for a Plasma Cutter. So many choices with little understanding. This is for my boy friend as a HBD gift. Yes I know.... $$$$$.. He's worth it.. Ok... Machine tourch. Cutting at most thickness is 1/2 steel. But he does mostly lighter materials. I can't tell what he has now, but I know we are building a new workshop that will have 220v service for his cutters.. Whats the best? What is the one that uses the least comsumables (if used right) and does the most percision cuts? Does he really need 220v? If so why? I read those specs and they all claim to be the best...They are all greek to me. Who's right? Give it me straight.. I am ready to break out the CC but I want what is right. Thanks Jen Crossposting to rec.crafts.metalworking. Fred |
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I like Hypertherm products, too. But for a machine torch on 1/2" steel
you are going to want the 1200. |
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Your friend would be happy with a Thermal Dynamics 81 or 101. I have been
using their Cutmaster 81 plasma cutter on a CNC machine for three years and I am well satisfied with performance, consumable cost and life and good cut quality. Zero problems with the plasma cutter. I hate to say it but eBay seems to have the best price on them and I have had good luck with Indiana Oxygen for consumables. That is not to say your local dealer would not come close in price and would be able to offer service in time of need. http://www.thermadyne.com/thermaldynamics/index.asp Steve Peterson www.kettleriverironworks.com "ff" wrote in message ... Jeniffer Ness wrote: Hi Guys, Looking for a Plasma Cutter. So many choices with little understanding. This is for my boy friend as a HBD gift. Yes I know.... $$$$$.. He's worth it.. Ok... Machine tourch. Cutting at most thickness is 1/2 steel. But he does mostly lighter materials. I can't tell what he has now, but I know we are building a new workshop that will have 220v service for his cutters.. Whats the best? What is the one that uses the least comsumables (if used right) and does the most percision cuts? Does he really need 220v? If so why? I read those specs and they all claim to be the best...They are all greek to me. Who's right? Give it me straight.. I am ready to break out the CC but I want what is right. Thanks Jen Crossposting to rec.crafts.metalworking. Fred |
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Grant Erwin wrote in
: Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. This is the one I have been looking at. I have never seen one and I wondering if it have a 220v plug or does it get hard wired? I saw the specs on this unit and saw the doc. on slow blow fuses and thought that would mean hardwiring. Is this correct? Also, I was wondering about the consumables. How often are they to be changed on average? I know this has to do alot with speed, thickness ect ect.. Any thoughts on the consumables for the Hypertherm Powermax 600 let me know. See Ya Jn |
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Jeniffer Ness wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote in : Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. This is the one I have been looking at. I have never seen one and I wondering if it have a 220v plug or does it get hard wired? You can use it on 110V if you like. I have a welder receptacle so I just put an Eagle 50A welder plug on mine. I saw the specs on this unit and saw the doc. on slow blow fuses and thought that would mean hardwiring. Is this correct? Oh, I wouldn't pay any attention to that unless your fuse starts blowing. I use mine at max amps all the time on a regular circuit breaker and no problem. Well, it's a 30A breaker, so it shouldn't ... Also, I was wondering about the consumables. How often are they to be changed on average? I know this has to do alot with speed, thickness ect ect.. Any thoughts on the consumables for the Hypertherm Powermax 600 let me know. Consumable life can be considerably extended by using perfectly clean dry air. Of course, getting clean dry air isn't cheap either! I have a little Dayton refrigerated air dryer with a filter which lives on the bottom of my plasma cutter cart. Putting that inline took a lot of the "crackle" out of my cutting and makes it seem to cut better. They call out for about $500 worth of air filtering, and most guys don't use any. I can't tell you how long mine last on average because I've never changed any yet. Of course, I'm real gentle with machinery compared to some of the meatballs I see around ... GWE |
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Jeniffer Ness wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote in : Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. This is the one I have been looking at. I have never seen one and I wondering if it have a 220v plug or does it get hard wired? I saw the specs on this unit and saw the doc. on slow blow fuses and thought that would mean hardwiring. Is this correct? Also, I was wondering about the consumables. How often are they to be changed on average? I know this has to do alot with speed, thickness ect ect.. Any thoughts on the consumables for the Hypertherm Powermax 600 let me know. See Ya Jn Comes with a 50 amp plug. Doesn't draw that but it is an 8 ga wire. The unit has circuit breakers on the rear panel. Different cable sets and connections allow 3 phase. The new torch cable RT60 I got is really hot! - It really burns through metal - easier - hotter beam - more capable torch. I have the standard one attached to my CNC and the 50' RT60 in leather covers for work outside in front of the shop or on a bench... Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
Jeniffer Ness wrote: Grant Erwin wrote in : Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. This is the one I have been looking at. I have never seen one and I wondering if it have a 220v plug or does it get hard wired? You can use it on 110V if you like. I have a welder receptacle so I just put an Eagle 50A welder plug on mine. I saw the specs on this unit and saw the doc. on slow blow fuses and thought that would mean hardwiring. Is this correct? Oh, I wouldn't pay any attention to that unless your fuse starts blowing. I use mine at max amps all the time on a regular circuit breaker and no problem. Well, it's a 30A breaker, so it shouldn't ... Also, I was wondering about the consumables. How often are they to be changed on average? I know this has to do alot with speed, thickness ect ect.. Any thoughts on the consumables for the Hypertherm Powermax 600 let me know. Consumable life can be considerably extended by using perfectly clean dry air. Of course, getting clean dry air isn't cheap either! I have a little Dayton refrigerated air dryer with a filter which lives on the bottom of my plasma cutter cart. Putting that inline took a lot of the "crackle" out of my cutting and makes it seem to cut better. They call out for about $500 worth of air filtering, and most guys don't use any. I can't tell you how long mine last on average because I've never changed any yet. Of course, I'm real gentle with machinery compared to some of the meatballs I see around ... GWE I run through consumables a little faster - very little hand use - mostly CNC driving designs. Hundreds of inches is easily obtained. It really depends on what and how much current you are using. Also if one pushes it a bit - and starves it of cooling air - consumables burn up. Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:17:45 -0500, Jeniffer Ness
wrote: Grant Erwin wrote in : Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. This is the one I have been looking at. I have never seen one and I wondering if it have a 220v plug or does it get hard wired? It can be done either way. I saw the specs on this unit and saw the doc. on slow blow fuses and thought that would mean hardwiring. Is this correct? As Grant said don't worry about it unless you go to blowing the breaker real often. Not likely if the breaker is sized properly. Also, I was wondering about the consumables. How often are they to be changed on average? I know this has to do alot with speed, thickness ect ect.. Any thoughts on the consumables for the Hypertherm Powermax 600 let me know. Well I just got a Powermax1250 this week. I've run a few different plasma cutters over the years and I have to say I'm ultra impressed with consumable life of this machine. The job that forced me to buy a new plasma is the type that'll eat consumables worse than any other and so far I've barely scratched the first set I put in the machine. This was with lots of high frequency and pilot arc operation due to my trying to get into corners and cut out dirty old welds. Lots of blow back onto the tip while piercing in tight confined spaces and much more. In other words I badly abused it and I can still get a near perfect cut in a piece of 10ga SS I'm using to reinforce as I'm going back. I can't think of a better machine to buy. My only concern is that you may be looking at too small a machine if he's really needing to cut thicker stuff. My 1250 is rated for 7/8" recommended and 1 1/8" max. Well so far I've tried it on 1" and it did cut it but slowly. It handles 1/2" very easily though. It's a bit more money but the Powermax 1000 might be a better match for his needs. I was going to get the 1000 myself but the store was out of them and I had to have one right now to get this big job out of the shop. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm |
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Jeniffer Ness wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote in : Recommend Hypertherm Powermax 600. Great little machine. Cuts up to 1/2", consumables are readily available. This is the one I have been looking at. I have never seen one and I wondering if it have a 220v plug or does it get hard wired? I saw the specs on this unit and saw the doc. on slow blow fuses and thought that would mean hardwiring. Is this correct? Also, I was wondering about the consumables. How often are they to be changed on average? I know this has to do alot with speed, thickness ect ect.. Any thoughts on the consumables for the Hypertherm Powermax 600 let me know. See Ya Jn A friend of mine has the 600, it's an excellent machine. Decent fire, agreeable torch, mighty light compared to my old Max40 (I think it weighs about a third what my machine does), well worth the money. John |
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