http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/


Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

--
Larry Green

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green wrote:
Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition,

Blame DNA himself - he wrote the screenplay. His work, his choice.

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe? Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.

In misc.survivalism Dave Hinz wrote:

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe? Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.


The Return of the King was quite good.

Before that, I'd have to way back to Slaughterhouse 5. No, maybe not that
far - Fight Club was excellent.

Generally, I agree with you. Movies are rarely as good as the book.


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acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
-- Dwight David Eisenhower

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.




On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green wrote:

Gunner wrote:



http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition,


Blame DNA himself - he wrote the screenplay. His work, his choice.

Yes I know.........and all the variations on the theme were just
that.......variations. It just strikes me that this is more like a
'giant leap' rather than a 'small step' ;-).



I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.


When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good?

Hmmmmmm........a long time ago but......the animation of 'Watership
Down' was pretty close to the book.

Gone With the Wind, maybe?

IMHO that has to rank as one of the biggest wastes of celluloid ever.
The last line of the movie sums it all up for me. Gone with the
wind......who gives a damn!

Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.


Well I must admit I do prefer a good read to a movie any day. I haven't
been to a movie theatre/cinema in over 12 years and I rarely watch them
at home either (or much TV come to that) despite there being literally
dozens of movies on VHS and DVD here (three females in this house means
TV is on 14+ hours a day!)


--
Larry Green

In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.



Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.






On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily
Tomlin

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:50:16 -0400, Larry Green wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote:

Blame DNA himself - he wrote the screenplay. His work, his choice.

Yes I know.........and all the variations on the theme were just
that.......variations. It just strikes me that this is more like a
'giant leap' rather than a 'small step' ;-).

Haven't seen it yet. I didn't know it had opened yet

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good?

Hmmmmmm........a long time ago but......the animation of 'Watership
Down' was pretty close to the book.

Yes.

Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.

Well I must admit I do prefer a good read to a movie any day. I haven't
been to a movie theatre/cinema in over 12 years and I rarely watch them
at home either (or much TV come to that) despite there being literally
dozens of movies on VHS and DVD here (three females in this house means
TV is on 14+ hours a day!)

It's interesting. Over in the Harry Potter group, people get all surprised
that a 1.5 hour movie doesn't represent the subtle plot and character
elements of a 700 page book very well.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line

Well, the original radio series was 6 hours over 12 episodes. Putting
all that in a 1.5 or 2 hour movie just ain't gonna happen.

Some of us are still unhappy about how the radio series got translated
into the book, or about the changed Marvin humming Pink Floyd :-)

Tim.

Mike Patterson wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.

HEY! The unisex shower room scenes were MUCH better in the movie than the book!
Other than that, a waste of celluloid. Do they still use celluloid, BTW?

Lord of the Rings was very good, as were The Dead Zone, A Boy and his Dog &
Blade Runner.

David

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:49 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.



Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Id love to see a full fledged movie made on the book ARMOUR.

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Gunner







On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily
Tomlin

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"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

Sounds kind of like the Delaurentis Dune movie. Fantastic visually,
but the only thing that remained of the story was the characters'
names.

Steve M


On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an und

In article ,
Steve Mulhollan wrote:
Sounds kind of like the Delaurentis Dune movie. Fantastic visually,
but the only thing that remained of the story was the characters'
names.

Steve M


On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an und



The HHG as raw material has been put into two (now three) distinclty
different radio productions, a TV serial, and several books. Each of
these had some unique characters and plot elements. I believe DNA had
material written that didn't make it into any of the above.

The result is there isn't a single work to serve as an "accurate"
movie script. Watch it and let it stand on it's own.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

In article , Dave Hinz says...

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe?

Dr. Zhivago.

Jim


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On 18 Apr 2005 05:52:23 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
In article , Dave Hinz says...

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe?

Dr. Zhivago.

OK, that's three then.

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:51 GMT in
misc.survivalism :
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:49 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.

Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Id love to see a full fledged movie made on the book ARMOUR.

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."

--
pyotr filipivich
"MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children,
but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine

pyotr filipivich wrote:
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:51 GMT in
misc.survivalism :

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:49 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:


In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:


Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.

Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Id love to see a full fledged movie made on the book ARMOUR.

ANTS!!!!!!!!!


Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."

While we're on the subject, could anyone tell me what
the 1930 movie "Moby Dick" had in common with the book,
other than the title?

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:55:10 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:51 GMT in
misc.survivalism :
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:49 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.

Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Id love to see a full fledged movie made on the book ARMOUR.

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."


True..very true.

Im currently reading the Full version of The Stand for the first time.
King prefaced the novel with the fact he was required to pull 50,000
words out of the first published books due to constraint of size by
his publisher.

Lots of changes, lots of background, lots more charector development
in this one.

So its not only the movies that suffers from this sort of thing.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

In article , Ernie Leimkuhler says...

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Ernie, weren't you involved in _The_Postman_?

I still haven't forgiven Costner for that one.

Jim


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pyotr filipivich wrote:

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."

This is because Fleming had already sold the rights to "Casino Royale" when
Saltzmann & Broccoli came to call. There was an American TV production of CR in
the early 50's, with Bond ("Jimmy") a US spy and Felix Leiter was British. Le
Chiffre was played by Peter Lorre, the only decent performance on the show.

David

On 18 Apr 2005 13:03:37 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Ernie Leimkuhler says...

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Ernie, weren't you involved in _The_Postman_?

I still haven't forgiven Costner for that one.

Jim

I rather enjoyed it. But I saw the movie first, then read the book.

Shrug

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:46:52 GMT in
misc.survivalism :

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."


True..very true.

Im currently reading the Full version of The Stand for the first time.
King prefaced the novel with the fact he was required to pull 50,000
words out of the first published books due to constraint of size by
his publisher.

Lots of changes, lots of background, lots more charector development
in this one.

So its not only the movies that suffers from this sort of thing.

I picked up a copy of Dune, as done by the Sci Fi Channel as a
mini-series. Much better than the David Lynch version. Then picked up the
"directors cut" which is only about fifteen minutes longer, but those
fifteen minutes (scattered through the series), is many little bits of
business which "make sense". (The whole seduction of Faid Harkonnen by
Princess Irulan "works" when you don't edit out her substituting of her
handmaid.)

And this Paul Atriedes, he may be a "boy", but he has been groomed to
take command, and he knows it. Noblesse Oblige, and all that.

tschus
pyotr


Gunner

--
pyotr filipivich
"MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children,
but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine

The Sci-Fi Channel version of Dune really bored me to tears. If that's accurate to
the book, I'm glad I passed it by all those years ago.

Ron


"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
...
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:46:52 GMT in
misc.survivalism :

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."


True..very true.

Im currently reading the Full version of The Stand for the first time.
King prefaced the novel with the fact he was required to pull 50,000
words out of the first published books due to constraint of size by
his publisher.

Lots of changes, lots of background, lots more charector development
in this one.

So its not only the movies that suffers from this sort of thing.

I picked up a copy of Dune, as done by the Sci Fi Channel as a
mini-series. Much better than the David Lynch version. Then picked up the
"directors cut" which is only about fifteen minutes longer, but those
fifteen minutes (scattered through the series), is many little bits of
business which "make sense". (The whole seduction of Faid Harkonnen by
Princess Irulan "works" when you don't edit out her substituting of her
handmaid.)

And this Paul Atriedes, he may be a "boy", but he has been groomed to
take command, and he knows it. Noblesse Oblige, and all that.

tschus
pyotr


Gunner

--
pyotr filipivich
"MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children,
but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine

"Ron Hubbard" wrote in message
...
The Sci-Fi Channel version of Dune really bored me to tears. If that's
accurate to
the book, I'm glad I passed it by all those years ago.

Ron



Dune is a great (series of) book(s). Only book that ever made me feel
thirsty. Can't vouch for the movie, but I doubt it could match imagination.

BTW, your handle speaks volumes for your cred, Ron.

--
Jeff R.
(how's your E-meter going?)

"Jeff R" wrote in message
u...

"Ron Hubbard" wrote in message
...
The Sci-Fi Channel version of Dune really bored me to tears. If that's
accurate to
the book, I'm glad I passed it by all those years ago.

Ron



Dune is a great (series of) book(s). Only book that ever made me feel
thirsty. Can't vouch for the movie, but I doubt it could match
imagination.

I love the Dune series of books but thought little of the two movies I saw
based on it.

I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's movie. It had a couple extra characters and some
funny bits taken from the guide itself. The cinema was full when I saw the
movie opening night and I'd say that 50% there enjoyed the movie and the
other 50% did not get it.

The movie really focused on finding on answer to the meaning of life......

Depends on which version of Casino Royale you saw. The version with
Barry Nelson as Bond has more in common with the book. The version with
Peter Sellers is a joke. As for Dune I have three different movie
versions of it (as well as all the books) The Sci-Fi version is the
closest of them so far.
Personally I have only found a few movies based on previous books that
are close in content, most of that is due to the editing needed to make
the book fit into the time slot. The Time Machine 1960 Starring Rod
Taylor, Alan Young and Yvette Mimieux is so far the closest to the HG
wells book that I have seen. Another one that is pretty good is The
Martian Chronicles with Rock Hudson done as a series in 1989. It covers
many of Ray Bradbury's points in the novels. Would be nice to see some
of the older literature put into film and done true to the books (not
like Jurassic Farce though)

For interested folks this site has some great reading materials (even
audio books IF you have a fast connection).

http://www.gutenberg.org/

--
Steve Williams

"Ron Hubbard" wrote in message
...
The Sci-Fi Channel version of Dune really bored me to tears. If that's
accurate to
the book, I'm glad I passed it by all those years ago.

Ron


"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
...
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:46:52 GMT
in
misc.survivalism :

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to
the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the
title and
main character is called "James Bond."


True..very true.

Im currently reading the Full version of The Stand for the first
time.
King prefaced the novel with the fact he was required to pull
50,000
words out of the first published books due to constraint of size by
his publisher.

Lots of changes, lots of background, lots more charector
development
in this one.

So its not only the movies that suffers from this sort of thing.

I picked up a copy of Dune, as done by the Sci Fi Channel as a
mini-series. Much better than the David Lynch version. Then picked
up the
"directors cut" which is only about fifteen minutes longer, but
those
fifteen minutes (scattered through the series), is many little bits
of
business which "make sense". (The whole seduction of Faid Harkonnen
by
Princess Irulan "works" when you don't edit out her substituting of
her
handmaid.)

And this Paul Atriedes, he may be a "boy", but he has been groomed
to
take command, and he knows it. Noblesse Oblige, and all that.

tschus
pyotr


Gunner

--
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"Ron Hubbard" wrote in message
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The Sci-Fi Channel version of Dune really bored me to tears. If that's
accurate to
the book, I'm glad I passed it by all those years ago.

Ron



Dune is a great (series of) book(s). Only book that ever made me feel
thirsty. Can't vouch for the movie, but I doubt it could match
imagination.

I love the Dune series of books but thought little of the two movies I saw
based on it.

I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's movie. It had a couple extra characters and
some funny bits taken from the guide itself. The cinema was full when I
saw the movie opening night and I'd say that 50% there enjoyed the movie
and the other 50% did not get it.

The movie really focused on finding on answer to the meaning of life......


.... and everything.

The answer is "42".

I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's movie. It had a couple extra characters and
some funny bits taken from the guide itself. The cinema was full when I
saw the movie opening night and I'd say that 50% there enjoyed the movie
and the other 50% did not get it.

The movie really focused on finding on answer to the meaning of
life......


... and everything.

The answer is "42".


Ahh! But what is the question??

"Tom Miller" wrote in message
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I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's movie. It had a couple extra characters and
some funny bits taken from the guide itself. The cinema was full when
I
saw the movie opening night and I'd say that 50% there enjoyed the
movie
and the other 50% did not get it.

The movie really focused on finding on answer to the meaning of
life......


... and everything.

The answer is "42".


Ahh! But what is the question??



"What is the meaning of life and everything?"

"Ron Hubbard" wrote in message
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The Sci-Fi Channel version of Dune really bored me to tears. If that's
accurate to
the book, I'm glad I passed it by all those years ago.


hey Ron I thought you were dead

That's unfortunate. I really liked both movies. I think they are much
better than the version with Sting in it.
And Gunner, ANTS! ANTS! ANTS!

Here I thought I was the only person who read that book!!

you guys just never read all the books, right - "what's 6 times 9" "there.
I knew something was wrong"
"RAM^3" wrote in message
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"Tom Miller" wrote in message
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I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's movie. It had a couple extra characters
and
some funny bits taken from the guide itself. The cinema was full when
I
saw the movie opening night and I'd say that 50% there enjoyed the
movie
and the other 50% did not get it.

The movie really focused on finding on answer to the meaning of
life......


... and everything.

The answer is "42".


Ahh! But what is the question??



"What is the meaning of life and everything?"

"Tom Quackenbush" wrote in message
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It's difficult to know what you're responding to when you remove
all of the previous poster's content.

Not really, you just look at the next post up in tree layout. Appears to be
Ron Hubbard's post.

Tim

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On 10 Jun 2005 17:11:21 -0700, "TheAndroid"
wrote:

That's unfortunate. I really liked both movies. I think they are much
better than the version with Sting in it.
And Gunner, ANTS! ANTS! ANTS!

Here I thought I was the only person who read that book!!
Of course not. And more than one person has the Engine running
things.

Gunner

"Considering the events of recent years,
the world has a long way to go to regain
its credibility and reputation with the US."
unknown

"Tom Quackenbush" wrote in message
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Which means, for me, switching to threaded display and unhiding all
the "marked read" posts,

I leave those open and just CTRL+U to the next unread message. Simple
enough.

then choosing the post 10 messages back
that's indented 3 characters less than the post in question.

Well, that I can't help 'ya with... well, except maybe suggesting a better
newsreader... try OE lately? BG

Since he's replying, apparently, to two sentences of Ron's post, why
not just leave them in his reply?

Now that I surely cannot answer...

Tim

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"California is the breakfast state: fruits, nuts and flakes."
Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

If you're not doing threaded posts, Tom, then you're really banging your
head against the fencepost and getting pretty much nowhere!
Thread them and leave them closed unless you want to read the thread. Also,
hide the read posts from session to session. Makes life a lot easier to
deal with on the newsgroups! Those little + and - signs in the boxes help
keep things all lined up and running right for you.

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Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?

In article ,
"Bob May" wrote:

If you're not doing threaded posts, Tom, then you're really banging your
head against the fencepost and getting pretty much nowhere!
Thread them and leave them closed unless you want to read the thread. Also,
hide the read posts from session to session. Makes life a lot easier to
deal with on the newsgroups! Those little + and - signs in the boxes help
keep things all lined up and running right for you.

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Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?

No penguin farts?

Penguin farts kill Ozone.

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Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?

"Bob May" wrote in message
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Penguin farts kill Ozone.

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Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?


Penguin farts buffer/protect ozone.

Nope, penguins live at the bottom of the earth while polar bears live at the
top of the world. We've got problems at the bottom of the world but not at
the top.
Either that or the penguin farts flow north to the top of the world.

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Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?