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"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

--
Larry Green

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green wrote:
Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition,

Blame DNA himself - he wrote the screenplay. His work, his choice.

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe? Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.

In misc.survivalism Dave Hinz wrote:

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe? Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.


The Return of the King was quite good.

Before that, I'd have to way back to Slaughterhouse 5. No, maybe not that
far - Fight Club was excellent.

Generally, I agree with you. Movies are rarely as good as the book.


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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green wrote:

Gunner wrote:



http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition,


Blame DNA himself - he wrote the screenplay. His work, his choice.

Yes I know.........and all the variations on the theme were just
that.......variations. It just strikes me that this is more like a
'giant leap' rather than a 'small step' ;-).



I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.


When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good?

Hmmmmmm........a long time ago but......the animation of 'Watership
Down' was pretty close to the book.

Gone With the Wind, maybe?

IMHO that has to rank as one of the biggest wastes of celluloid ever.
The last line of the movie sums it all up for me. Gone with the
wind......who gives a damn!

Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.


Well I must admit I do prefer a good read to a movie any day. I haven't
been to a movie theatre/cinema in over 12 years and I rarely watch them
at home either (or much TV come to that) despite there being literally
dozens of movies on VHS and DVD here (three females in this house means
TV is on 14+ hours a day!)


--
Larry Green

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:50:16 -0400, Larry Green wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote:

Blame DNA himself - he wrote the screenplay. His work, his choice.

Yes I know.........and all the variations on the theme were just
that.......variations. It just strikes me that this is more like a
'giant leap' rather than a 'small step' ;-).

Haven't seen it yet. I didn't know it had opened yet

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good?

Hmmmmmm........a long time ago but......the animation of 'Watership
Down' was pretty close to the book.

Yes.

Movies about books are good for spending
a bit of enjoyable time (at best), nothing more.

Well I must admit I do prefer a good read to a movie any day. I haven't
been to a movie theatre/cinema in over 12 years and I rarely watch them
at home either (or much TV come to that) despite there being literally
dozens of movies on VHS and DVD here (three females in this house means
TV is on 14+ hours a day!)

It's interesting. Over in the Harry Potter group, people get all surprised
that a 1.5 hour movie doesn't represent the subtle plot and character
elements of a 700 page book very well.

In article , Dave Hinz says...

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe?

Dr. Zhivago.

Jim


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On 18 Apr 2005 05:52:23 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
In article , Dave Hinz says...

When is the last time a movie of a book you enjoyed was anywhere near as
good? Gone With the Wind, maybe?

Dr. Zhivago.

OK, that's three then.

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.




On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

Mike Patterson
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In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.



Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.






On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily
Tomlin

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:49 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.



Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Id love to see a full fledged movie made on the book ARMOUR.

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Gunner







On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

Gunner wrote:


http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/



If you are at all familiar with Douglas Adam's original books, radio
plays, TV series or anything else connected to H2G2 you could well be
very disappointed with this movie.

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an understatement. For someone who has never read the books it
may be an OK film but apparently whole sections have been totally
ignored or changed beyond recognition, whole new scenes and characters
have been created and Adam's greatest gift, that of the biting dialogue
between characters, has been butchered to the point where you get lead
lines with no punch line or punch lines with no lead line.

As for Marvin (the robot - metal content), instead of a manic depressive
humanoid we get something that looks like a mechanized salt
cellar/shaker from the 60's that says the right words but in a tone of
voice that implies all is well with his existence. Where is the misery
and angst when he speaks, he gives the impression he popped a case of
'uppers' just prior to filming!

For a review written by someone who has been closely involved with H2G2
for more than 20 years (and who was one of only a handful of journalists
allowed to visit the set) check the link below......

http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html

I was really looking forward to this long awaited movie and I may go to
see it even after reading the above. However I will 'rewire' my brain
before entering the theatre so that I do not expect it to be anything
like what I remember of the radio plays and TV shows and will endeavour
to experience it as a singular item not in any way connected to whatever
went before.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
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Tomlin

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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:51 GMT in
misc.survivalism :
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:49 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article , Mike Patterson
wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.

Starship Troopers was never intended to be a Heinlein book adaptation.

It was originally called Bug Hunt and had nothing whatsoever to do with
Heinlein.

They realized that they could buy the film rights to Starship Troopers
for cheap and just adjust the story line enough that it could vaguely
be called that.

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Id love to see a full fledged movie made on the book ARMOUR.

ANTS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone ever read the book "Casino Royale" and compared it to the
movie of the same name? About all they have in common is the title and
main character is called "James Bond."

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but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine

In article , Ernie Leimkuhler says...

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Ernie, weren't you involved in _The_Postman_?

I still haven't forgiven Costner for that one.

Jim


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On 18 Apr 2005 13:03:37 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Ernie Leimkuhler says...

Hollywierd is a very odd place to get any project carried through to
the big screen.

Ernie, weren't you involved in _The_Postman_?

I still haven't forgiven Costner for that one.

Jim

I rather enjoyed it. But I saw the movie first, then read the book.

Shrug

Gunner

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miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Mike Patterson wrote:

Sounds like it must have been adapted by the same despicable twits who
butchered Heinlein's Starship Trooper.

HEY! The unisex shower room scenes were MUCH better in the movie than the book!
Other than that, a waste of celluloid. Do they still use celluloid, BTW?

Lord of the Rings was very good, as were The Dead Zone, A Boy and his Dog &
Blade Runner.

David

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line

Well, the original radio series was 6 hours over 12 episodes. Putting
all that in a 1.5 or 2 hour movie just ain't gonna happen.

Some of us are still unhappy about how the radio series got translated
into the book, or about the changed Marvin humming Pink Floyd :-)

Tim.

Sounds kind of like the Delaurentis Dune movie. Fantastic visually,
but the only thing that remained of the story was the characters'
names.

Steve M


On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an und

In article ,
Steve Mulhollan wrote:
Sounds kind of like the Delaurentis Dune movie. Fantastic visually,
but the only thing that remained of the story was the characters'
names.

Steve M


On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:07:20 -0400, Larry Green
wrote:

To say that it strays far from the original plot/concept/story line
would be an und



The HHG as raw material has been put into two (now three) distinclty
different radio productions, a TV serial, and several books. Each of
these had some unique characters and plot elements. I believe DNA had
material written that didn't make it into any of the above.

The result is there isn't a single work to serve as an "accurate"
movie script. Watch it and let it stand on it's own.
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