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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 6:21:53 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 8:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 12:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 1:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 07:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 6:35 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/9/21 5:43 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Pity about the 600K the virus killed in the USA.

The US population is 330,000,000. The average age of death
is 80.

So 4,125,000 died of old age last year and some of them
just happened to have the FonyFauci-19 virus.

Nothing to see here, move along.


Please explain the 15% increase in the death rate last year.
Maybe it was just a lot of people falling off the roof last
year.

https://www.vox.com/22352521/murders...-shootings-gun
-violence-2020



https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/motor-v...2020-estimated
-to-be-highest



Suicides may have increased. While the CDC may have up to the
hour covid reports, they haven't published figures for 2020 yet
so more people may have jumped off the roof.

Of course, you aren't interested in an explanation.

You gave supposition, not an explanation. Get back to us when
you have actual numbers but there are still that 600,000 dead
people to explain away.

There is no possible explanation that will satisfy you.

Sure is, the right one with facts. There may be a few more suicides
but there was not 600,000 of them.

Do you really think the death rate went up 15% from suicides? I
think that would have made the news.
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it made
a big difference.

Which is excellent proof that masks and social distancing work to prevent
viruses spread. But of course the Covid deniers will ignore that. Even worse,
I've already experienced the crazies raising the low flu numbers as being part
of some kind of conspiracy, implying that flu deaths are being counted as
Covid deaths, etc.

rbowman wrote:

On 05/10/2021 04:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it
made a big difference.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/n...s-sept2020.htm

"Early-season data do not indicate substantial differences in
intended influenza vaccination behavior during the 2020–21 influenza
season compared with other recent seasons, although vaccination
uptake may ultimately be higher than previous seasons. "

Since the CDC doesn't have firm data yet, I'm pretty sure you don't
either. In any case the numbers they put up are the results of a
survey and depend on accurate self-reporting.

Look past Sept2020.

Bob F wrote:

On 5/10/2021 3:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 8:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 12:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 1:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 07:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 6:35 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/9/21 5:43 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Pity about the 600K the virus killed in the USA.

The US population is 330,000,000. The average age of
death is 80.

So 4,125,000 died of old age last year and some of them
just happened to have the FonyFauci-19 virus.

Nothing to see here, move along.


Please explain the 15% increase in the death rate last
year. Maybe it was just a lot of people falling off the
roof last year.


https://www.vox.com/22352521/murders...-shootings-gun
-violence-2020




https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/motor-v...2020-estimated
-to-be-highest



Suicides may have increased. While the CDC may have up to
the hour covid reports, they haven't published figures for
2020 yet so more people may have jumped off the roof.

Of course, you aren't interested in an explanation.

You gave supposition, not an explanation.Â* Get back to us when
you have actual numbers but there are still that 600,000 dead
people to explain away.

There is no possible explanation that will satisfy you.

Sure is, the right one with facts. There may be a few more
suicides but there was not 600,000 of them.

Do you really think the death rate went up 15% from suicides? I
think that would have made the news.

The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it
made a big difference.


Masks and distancing eliminated the flu season.

Oh, it was still there, just minimized. It starts to show more getting
vaccinated for the flu around November.

trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 6:21:53 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 8:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 12:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 1:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 07:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 6:35 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/9/21 5:43 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Pity about the 600K the virus killed in the USA.

The US population is 330,000,000. The average age of
death is 80.

So 4,125,000 died of old age last year and some of them
just happened to have the FonyFauci-19 virus.

Nothing to see here, move along.


Please explain the 15% increase in the death rate last
year. Maybe it was just a lot of people falling off the
roof last year.

https://www.vox.com/22352521/murders...rime-shootings
-gun -violence-2020



https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/motor-v...ths-2020-estim
ated -to-be-highest



Suicides may have increased. While the CDC may have up to
the hour covid reports, they haven't published figures for
2020 yet so more people may have jumped off the roof.

Of course, you aren't interested in an explanation.

You gave supposition, not an explanation. Get back to us when
you have actual numbers but there are still that 600,000 dead
people to explain away.

There is no possible explanation that will satisfy you.

Sure is, the right one with facts. There may be a few more
suicides but there was not 600,000 of them.

Do you really think the death rate went up 15% from suicides? I
think that would have made the news.
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it
made a big difference.

Which is excellent proof that masks and social distancing work to
prevent viruses spread. But of course the Covid deniers will ignore
that. Even worse, I've already experienced the crazies raising the
low flu numbers as being part of some kind of conspiracy, implying
that flu deaths are being counted as Covid deaths, etc.

Ayup!

No, the influenza deaths went down due to masking and more folks got
the shots this winter.

On 05/11/2021 04:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
rbowman wrote:

On 05/10/2021 04:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it
made a big difference.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/n...s-sept2020.htm

"Early-season data do not indicate substantial differences in
intended influenza vaccination behavior during the 2020–21 influenza
season compared with other recent seasons, although vaccination
uptake may ultimately be higher than previous seasons. "

Since the CDC doesn't have firm data yet, I'm pretty sure you don't
either. In any case the numbers they put up are the results of a
survey and depend on accurate self-reporting.

Look past Sept2020.


Supply a link. I cannot judge the CDC's expertise in medical matters but
their web site sucks. If they are not deliberately trying to obscure
data they are utterly incompetent in presenting the data in a concise,
meaningful format.

On 05/11/2021 04:46 PM, cshenk wrote:
Bob F wrote:

On 5/10/2021 3:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 8:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 12:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 1:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 07:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 6:35 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/9/21 5:43 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Pity about the 600K the virus killed in the USA.

The US population is 330,000,000. The average age of
death is 80.

So 4,125,000 died of old age last year and some of them
just happened to have the FonyFauci-19 virus.

Nothing to see here, move along.


Please explain the 15% increase in the death rate last
year. Maybe it was just a lot of people falling off the
roof last year.


https://www.vox.com/22352521/murders...-shootings-gun
-violence-2020




https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/motor-v...2020-estimated
-to-be-highest



Suicides may have increased. While the CDC may have up to
the hour covid reports, they haven't published figures for
2020 yet so more people may have jumped off the roof.

Of course, you aren't interested in an explanation.

You gave supposition, not an explanation. Get back to us when
you have actual numbers but there are still that 600,000 dead
people to explain away.

There is no possible explanation that will satisfy you.

Sure is, the right one with facts. There may be a few more
suicides but there was not 600,000 of them.

Do you really think the death rate went up 15% from suicides? I
think that would have made the news.

The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it
made a big difference.


Masks and distancing eliminated the flu season.

Oh, it was still there, just minimized. It starts to show more getting
vaccinated for the flu around November.


What 'it' is that? Where is the data?

On 05/11/2021 04:47 PM, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 6:21:53 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 8:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 12:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 1:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 07:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 6:35 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/9/21 5:43 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Pity about the 600K the virus killed in the USA.

The US population is 330,000,000. The average age of
death is 80.

So 4,125,000 died of old age last year and some of them
just happened to have the FonyFauci-19 virus.

Nothing to see here, move along.


Please explain the 15% increase in the death rate last
year. Maybe it was just a lot of people falling off the
roof last year.

https://www.vox.com/22352521/murders...rime-shootings
-gun -violence-2020



https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/motor-v...ths-2020-estim
ated -to-be-highest



Suicides may have increased. While the CDC may have up to
the hour covid reports, they haven't published figures for
2020 yet so more people may have jumped off the roof.

Of course, you aren't interested in an explanation.

You gave supposition, not an explanation. Get back to us when
you have actual numbers but there are still that 600,000 dead
people to explain away.

There is no possible explanation that will satisfy you.

Sure is, the right one with facts. There may be a few more
suicides but there was not 600,000 of them.

Do you really think the death rate went up 15% from suicides? I
think that would have made the news.
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more people
than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask wearing, it
made a big difference.

Which is excellent proof that masks and social distancing work to
prevent viruses spread. But of course the Covid deniers will ignore
that. Even worse, I've already experienced the crazies raising the
low flu numbers as being part of some kind of conspiracy, implying
that flu deaths are being counted as Covid deaths, etc.

Ayup!

No, the influenza deaths went down due to masking and more folks got
the shots this winter.


Unverifiable assumptions.

rbowman wrote:

On 05/11/2021 04:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
rbowman wrote:

On 05/10/2021 04:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more
people than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask
wearing, it made a big difference.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/n...s-sept2020.htm

"Early-season data do not indicate substantial differences in
intended influenza vaccination behavior during the 2020–21
influenza season compared with other recent seasons, although
vaccination uptake may ultimately be higher than previous
seasons. "

Since the CDC doesn't have firm data yet, I'm pretty sure you
don't either. In any case the numbers they put up are the results
of a survey and depend on accurate self-reporting.

Look past Sept2020.


Supply a link. I cannot judge the CDC's expertise in medical matters
but their web site sucks. If they are not deliberately trying to
obscure data they are utterly incompetent in presenting the data in a
concise, meaningful format.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Results. Scroll down. See Covid affects.

On 05/11/2021 08:00 PM, cshenk wrote:
rbowman wrote:

On 05/11/2021 04:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
rbowman wrote:

On 05/10/2021 04:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
The interesting one is it went down from the flu. A lot more
people than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask
wearing, it made a big difference.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/n...s-sept2020.htm

"Early-season data do not indicate substantial differences in
intended influenza vaccination behavior during the 2020–21
influenza season compared with other recent seasons, although
vaccination uptake may ultimately be higher than previous
seasons. "

Since the CDC doesn't have firm data yet, I'm pretty sure you
don't either. In any case the numbers they put up are the results
of a survey and depend on accurate self-reporting.

Look past Sept2020.


Supply a link. I cannot judge the CDC's expertise in medical matters
but their web site sucks. If they are not deliberately trying to
obscure data they are utterly incompetent in presenting the data in a
concise, meaningful format.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Results. Scroll down. See Covid affects.


I searched for covid and found 14 matches. I saw no data what so ever
stating how many people received the flu vaccine. The question is not
that the flu numbers are down drastically but your allegation 'A lot
more people than normal got the flu vaccine.'

On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:35:38 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Supply a link. I cannot judge the CDC's expertise in medical matters but

....but you can drivel and keep babbling about it anyway, as usual, you
endlessly driveling washerwoman!

On Tue, 11 May 2021 22:41:23 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

I searched for covid and found 14 matches. I saw no data what so ever
stating how many people received the flu vaccine. The question is not
that the flu numbers are down drastically but your allegation 'A lot
more people than normal got the flu vaccine.'

The question is what does it take to make you shut your endlessly blabbering
senile gob? It does seem to have a life of its own!!!!

On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:36:40 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Oh, it was still there, just minimized. It starts to show more getting
vaccinated for the flu around November.


What 'it' is that? Where is the data?

Where is the on topic **** in this sea of off topic senile ****, senile
gossip?

On 5/12/2021 12:41 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/11/2021 08:00 PM, cshenk wrote:
rbowman wrote:

On 05/11/2021 04:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
rbowman wrote:

On 05/10/2021 04:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
The interesting one is it went down from the flu.* A lot more
people than normal got the flu vaccine and with all the mask
wearing, it made a big difference.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/n...s-sept2020.htm

"Early-season data do not indicate substantial differences in
intended influenza vaccination behavior during the 2020–21
influenza season compared with other recent seasons, although
vaccination uptake may ultimately be higher than previous
seasons. "

Since the CDC doesn't have firm data yet, I'm pretty sure you
don't either. In any case the numbers they put up are the results
of a survey and depend on accurate self-reporting.

Look past Sept2020.


Supply a link. I cannot judge the CDC's expertise in medical matters
but their web site sucks. If they are not deliberately trying to
obscure data they are utterly incompetent in presenting the data in a
concise, meaningful format.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Results.* Scroll down.* See Covid affects.


I searched for covid and found 14 matches. I saw no data what so ever
stating how many people received the flu vaccine. The question is not
that the flu numbers are down drastically but your allegation 'A lot
more people than normal got the flu vaccine.'



Looks like it is up last year about 5 million doses.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vacc...historical.htm