Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."

I don't think that's the best measure. I pay attention to this and I
observe many cases where someone goes from the bottom quintile to the
4th or 5th but it takes two generations. One generation to get to the
3rd, and another to go higher. I think most people who start off in the
bottom 5th and make it to the middle one are satisified, that is, until
something goes wrong and they're back down in the second or first again,
and there are many things that can and do go wrong. The pandemic has
ruined lots of businesses, and caused many people to be laid off even
from businesses that aren't bankrupt. That's just one example.


I like to tell about the boy who mowed my lawn when he was in HS. Now
he's VP of a Fortune 100 company and president of one of its
subsidiaries, one that on its own is probably as big as a F500 company.
His mother still lives near me in a modest house. I'm sure he'd buy her
something much fancier if she wanted. His parents had decent jobs, but I
can't tell if even together they were 2nd or 3rd quintile, and I haven't
nerve enough to ask about their parents.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:26 -0400, micky
wrote:


Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."

I don't think that's the best measure. I pay attention to this and I
observe many cases where someone goes from the bottom quintile to the
4th or 5th but it takes two generations. One generation to get to the
3rd, and another to go higher. I think most people who start off in the
bottom 5th and make it to the middle one are satisified, that is, until
something goes wrong and they're back down in the second or first again,
and there are many things that can and do go wrong. The pandemic has
ruined lots of businesses, and caused many people to be laid off even
from businesses that aren't bankrupt. That's just one example.
.....

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

And of course the tips from someone at a v. good hotel are on average
higher than what I got, and the fares and corresponding tips from the
airport are high and much of the travel is on expressways, so they pay
better.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:26 -0400, micky
wrote:


Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."


I suspect our bottom quintile is far lower than theirs. I bet the
poorest of kids in Denmark still values going to school and doesn't
think drug slinging is a viable career.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:26 -0400, micky
wrote:


Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."

I don't think that's the best measure. I pay attention to this and I
observe many cases where someone goes from the bottom quintile to the
4th or 5th but it takes two generations. One generation to get to the
3rd, and another to go higher. I think most people who start off in the
bottom 5th and make it to the middle one are satisified, that is, until
something goes wrong and they're back down in the second or first again,
and there are many things that can and do go wrong. The pandemic has
ruined lots of businesses, and caused many people to be laid off even
from businesses that aren't bankrupt. That's just one example.
....

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

And of course the tips from someone at a v. good hotel are on average
higher than what I got, and the fares and corresponding tips from the
airport are high and much of the travel is on expressways, so they pay
better.

They also were not wasting gas driving around. Sometime you have to
give pros credit for knowing what works best, even if it doesn't make
sense to you.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:26 -0400, micky
wrote:


Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."

I don't think that's the best measure. I pay attention to this and I
observe many cases where someone goes from the bottom quintile to the
4th or 5th but it takes two generations. One generation to get to the
3rd, and another to go higher. I think most people who start off in the
bottom 5th and make it to the middle one are satisified, that is, until
something goes wrong and they're back down in the second or first again,
and there are many things that can and do go wrong. The pandemic has
ruined lots of businesses, and caused many people to be laid off even
from businesses that aren't bankrupt. That's just one example.
....

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

And of course the tips from someone at a v. good hotel are on average
higher than what I got, and the fares and corresponding tips from the
airport are high and much of the travel is on expressways, so they pay
better.
And they were not burning a tank of gas cruising around looking for
fares so they likely ended up MAKING more money than you did chasing
all over town.

On 3/28/2021 2:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:26 -0400, micky
wrote:


Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."


I suspect our bottom quintile is far lower than theirs. I bet the
poorest of kids in Denmark still values going to school and doesn't
think drug slinging is a viable career.


Oh no, you mean. . . .
Biggest problems I see is lack of education (and the desire for one)
Getting high marks is not being one of the cool kids.

Then you have drugs, both use and sale.

Sure, there are exception but Myth #4 is a big factor.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 06:48:43 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH more of the sociopathic cretin's troll****

WTF are you doing in humans-only ngs, you disgusting senile troll?

--
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"That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
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Message-ID:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 15:35:55 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:26 -0400, micky
wrote:


Even if you are not convinced of all these, they are certainly something
to think about.

Five myths about poverty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...05a_story.html


I see flaws: "And what about rising from rags to riches? In the United
States, 1 in 25 children raised in the bottom quintile of the income
distribution are able to climb to the top quintile, while the figure in
Denmark is nearly 1 out of 6. In our popular rhetoric, we celebrate the
success of that single individual to the exclusion of the other 24."

I don't think that's the best measure. I pay attention to this and I
observe many cases where someone goes from the bottom quintile to the
4th or 5th but it takes two generations. One generation to get to the
3rd, and another to go higher. I think most people who start off in the
bottom 5th and make it to the middle one are satisified, that is, until
something goes wrong and they're back down in the second or first again,
and there are many things that can and do go wrong. The pandemic has
ruined lots of businesses, and caused many people to be laid off even
from businesses that aren't bankrupt. That's just one example.
....

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

And of course the tips from someone at a v. good hotel are on average
higher than what I got, and the fares and corresponding tips from the
airport are high and much of the travel is on expressways, so they pay
better.
And they were not burning a tank of gas cruising around looking for

That's a good point.

fares so they likely ended up MAKING more money than you did chasing
all over town.

I didn't have to pay for my gas. I never ran out either, even when I
drove for 12 hours. But actually, on an 8 hour shift even with crusing,
I only drove about 100 miles. I was very surprised at that. I didn't
check every day, but several times and it was more or less the same.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky wrote:

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

Speaking of driving a cab, isn't one of the first things you learn is how
to get to any of the local airports? I once took a cab from lower Manhattan
(NYC) to JFK airport and when I looked up we were cruising slowly through a
residential neighborhood somewhere in Queens. The driver was thoroughly
lost and asked to use my smartphone to get directions.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:10:30 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky wrote:

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

Speaking of driving a cab, isn't one of the first things you learn is how
to get to any of the local airports? I once took a cab from lower Manhattan
(NYC) to JFK airport and when I looked up we were cruising slowly through a
residential neighborhood somewhere in Queens. The driver was thoroughly
lost and asked to use my smartphone to get directions.

Hey, what's wrong with Queens? Donald Trump was from Queens.

I drove in Chicago, and to get a hack license, in addition to the
drivers license, you had to pass a test on where the airports were,
where the concert halls and stadiums were, where the train stations
(several of them) were, where the big hotels were, where the biggest
tourist sites were. I knew most that stuff anyhow becuase I'd lived in
Chicago for almost 4 years, had a car for one or two, and I like to know
that stuff whether I'm a cabdriver or not.

But someone new to town would have to do some learnin'.

On 3/29/21 4:06 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:10:30 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky wrote:

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.
Speaking of driving a cab, isn't one of the first things you learn is how
to get to any of the local airports? I once took a cab from lower Manhattan
(NYC) to JFK airport and when I looked up we were cruising slowly through a
residential neighborhood somewhere in Queens. The driver was thoroughly
lost and asked to use my smartphone to get directions.
Hey, what's wrong with Queens? Donald Trump was from Queens.

I drove in Chicago, and to get a hack license, in addition to the
drivers license, you had to pass a test on where the airports were,
where the concert halls and stadiums were, where the train stations
(several of them) were, where the big hotels were, where the biggest
tourist sites were. I knew most that stuff anyhow becuase I'd lived in
Chicago for almost 4 years, had a car for one or two, and I like to know
that stuff whether I'm a cabdriver or not.

But someone new to town would have to do some learnin'.


Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service protecting her.

On 03/29/2021 04:42 AM, jimmy wrote:
Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white
people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car
breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service
protecting her.

The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

On 3/29/21 9:59 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/29/2021 04:42 AM, jimmy wrote:
Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white
people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car
breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service
protecting her.

The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

In the early 70's, I used to frequently travel to Chicago on business.
It wasn't much of a culture shock to me though as I was based in Detroit
at the time.

While I lived in the lovely lake country in the NW burbs, my office was
right downtown at the foot of Woodward Avenue.

A real adventure going to work, especially during the gas crunch when I
was reduced to commuting a 70 mile round trip on my motorcycle.

--
Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberal politicians.

On 3/29/2021 9:59 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/29/2021 04:42 AM, jimmy wrote:
Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white
people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car
breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service
protecting her.

The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

I was first in Chicago a few years before that time. The incident I
remember most was walking across the street in Old Town and hearing
someone yell out, "mother ****er". I turned around to see that it was a
little black girl. I had never heard anything like this in public before.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:59:06 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

Just so much more entirely off topic ****, senile gossip!

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:59:06 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/29/2021 04:42 AM, jimmy wrote:
Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white
people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car
breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service
protecting her.

The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

That girl I was dating there in the 60s used to say there is the near
south side and the far south side. Keep your windows rolled up and
your door locked until you get to some street I forget.
Down where she lived was all Irish and Italians. The Catholic church
was big down there ;-)

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:43:44 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

On 3/29/2021 9:59 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/29/2021 04:42 AM, jimmy wrote:
Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white
people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car
breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service
protecting her.

The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

I was first in Chicago a few years before that time. The incident I
remember most was walking across the street in Old Town and hearing
someone yell out, "mother ****er". I turned around to see that it was a
little black girl. I had never heard anything like this in public before.

I lived in some apartments out the Lake St Ell at the Central stop. It
was a mixed neighborhood but fairly calm during the day. They got a
little frisky at night and gunfire was not unheard of.
They did have a little bit of a riot in front of our apartments when
they found out we were getting the same rate for weekly rentals as the
other folks were paying monthly. I was a little taken back by the
blatant police brutality I saw but my Indiana roomie pretty much said
"forget about it, that is the Chicago way. They would kick your ass
too if you were out there".
This was about the time of the convention. Everyone saw what the CPD
was capable of.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 04:06:38 -0400, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:10:30 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky wrote:

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

Speaking of driving a cab, isn't one of the first things you learn is how
to get to any of the local airports? I once took a cab from lower Manhattan
(NYC) to JFK airport and when I looked up we were cruising slowly through a
residential neighborhood somewhere in Queens. The driver was thoroughly
lost and asked to use my smartphone to get directions.

Hey, what's wrong with Queens? Donald Trump was from Queens.

What's wrong was that we were in a residential n'hood when we should have
been at the airport, but it's fine because he still got me there on time. I
usually have no problem with the scenic route.

I drove in Chicago, and to get a hack license, in addition to the
drivers license, you had to pass a test on where the airports were,
where the concert halls and stadiums were, where the train stations
(several of them) were, where the big hotels were, where the biggest
tourist sites were. I knew most that stuff anyhow becuase I'd lived in
Chicago for almost 4 years, had a car for one or two, and I like to know
that stuff whether I'm a cabdriver or not.

But someone new to town would have to do some learnin'.

Thanks. Makes sense.

On 03/29/2021 08:25 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
In the early 70's, I used to frequently travel to Chicago on business.
It wasn't much of a culture shock to me though as I was based in Detroit
at the time.

I drove up to the Detroit area for the Ford museums. I like Greek food
so I had supper in Greektown. I walked around afterwards down past the
RenCen, which I think was empty, and along the river. The helos flying
overheard with searchlights added to the ambiance.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 20:15:38 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 04:06:38 -0400, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:10:30 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:55:31 -0400, micky wrote:

Another personal comment. I accepted at least one applicable myth when
I was in college, and when I took a break and drove a cab for a year, I
would see this drivers at a cab stand, outside a downtown hotel, or a
longgg cab line at the airport, while I was cruising and finding fares.
And I wondered why they didn't do what I did. Did they like to relax in
sitting in their cabs. One I finally noticed that for most of these
guys, driving a cab was their second job. They can't work as hard as I
did, when it was my only job.

Speaking of driving a cab, isn't one of the first things you learn is how
to get to any of the local airports? I once took a cab from lower Manhattan
(NYC) to JFK airport and when I looked up we were cruising slowly through a
residential neighborhood somewhere in Queens. The driver was thoroughly
lost and asked to use my smartphone to get directions.

Hey, what's wrong with Queens? Donald Trump was from Queens.

What's wrong was that we were in a residential n'hood when we should have
been at the airport, but it's fine because he still got me there on time. I
usually have no problem with the scenic route.
Was this a medallion cab or a gypsy?

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 20:22:02 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I drove up to the Detroit area for the Ford museums. I like Greek food
so I had...

Oh, no!

FLUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH yet more of the sheer endless senile blather

On 3/29/21 10:22 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/29/2021 08:25 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
In the early 70's, I used to frequently travel to Chicago on business.
It wasn't much of a culture shock to me though as I was based in Detroit
at the time.

I drove up to the Detroit area for the Ford museums. I like Greek food
so I had supper in Greektown. I walked around afterwards down past the
RenCen, which I think was empty, and along the river. The helos flying
overheard with searchlights added to the ambiance.

In the early 70's, Coleman Young, had just been elected Detroit's first
black mayor- thouigh any real administrative/management experience.

I was working in the Detroit office of one of the world's largest
international professional services firms back then. In a civic-minded
gesture, the office managing partner offered the services of the firm's
highly regarded municipal government consulting group pro bono to help
Young make the transition to executive life.

A few of us from the firm went over to city hall to meet with hizzoner
to discuss how we could help him. Amazingly, he immediately ended the
meeting and dismissed us- and the offer of free help- because there were
no black folks in our delegation!

--
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:43:44 -0400, Frank posted for all of us to digest...


On 3/29/2021 9:59 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/29/2021 04:42 AM, jimmy wrote:
Chicago has a few areas of racist black people who really hate white
people.

Traveling those areas will get you killed...especially if your car
breaks down.

Even Mayor Lori Lightfoot has a taxpayer-funded armed security service
protecting her.

The first time I was in Chicago was for the National plastics Exposition
in '72. The hotel clerk said 'Welcome to Chicago. Enjoy your stay. Don't
go south of Roosevelt'. A friend was at the University, a little enclave
in South Chicago so I did drive through deepest, darkest Chicago.
Unfortunately, she was in South America on a dig so it was a wasted
trip. I don't want to think what it's like 50 years later.

I was first in Chicago a few years before that time. The incident I
remember most was walking across the street in Old Town and hearing
someone yell out, "mother ****er". I turned around to see that it was a
little black girl. I had never heard anything like this in public before.

My wife & I had a good friend (RIP) mugged in downtown Chicago 45 years ago, in
the best section, wherever that is... Scarred her for life. She was a truly
good person, we miss her.

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Tekkie

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 20:15:38 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...


What's wrong was that we were in a residential n'hood when we should have
been at the airport, but it's fine because he still got me there on time. I
usually have no problem with the scenic route.


You ain't pay'n

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Tekkie

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:47:04 AM UTC-4, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 3/29/21 10:22 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/29/2021 08:25 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
In the early 70's, I used to frequently travel to Chicago on business.
It wasn't much of a culture shock to me though as I was based in Detroit
at the time.

I drove up to the Detroit area for the Ford museums. I like Greek food
so I had supper in Greektown. I walked around afterwards down past the
RenCen, which I think was empty, and along the river. The helos flying
overheard with searchlights added to the ambiance.
In the early 70's, Coleman Young, had just been elected Detroit's first
black mayor- thouigh any real administrative/management experience.

I was working in the Detroit office of one of the world's largest
international professional services firms back then. In a civic-minded
gesture, the office managing partner offered the services of the firm's
highly regarded municipal government consulting group pro bono to help
Young make the transition to executive life.

A few of us from the firm went over to city hall to meet with hizzoner
to discuss how we could help him. Amazingly, he immediately ended the
meeting and dismissed us- and the offer of free help- because there were
no black folks in our delegation!

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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men.

But, there are dangerous weapons.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
wrote:

There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men.

But, there are dangerous weapons.

No, just inanimate objects that can be misused by evil people.
Box cutters and airplanes spring to mind.