The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5 miles away.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy

On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:
AK wrote:
The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my
apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5 miles
away.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy


I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick up
mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.

On 8/26/2020 3:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:
AK wrote:
The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5 miles away.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy


I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some people down the street have one of the post office installed group mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.


Don't other people have a constitutional right to take what's yours?

On 8/26/20 2:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:

I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick
up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.

Rural mailboxes work the same in Nebraska. Flip the flag up for
outgoing mail. That would be things like letters, cards, and checks
to pay bills. People would take packages into town to be mailed because
they wouldn't know how much postage to put on them.

On 8/26/2020 6:00 PM, Neil Kelly wrote:
On 8/26/2020 3:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:
AK wrote:
The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my
apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5
miles away.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy


I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick
up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.


Don't other people have a constitutional right to take what's yours?


F'ing commie Bob?

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:05:03 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5 miles away.

You should call the post office and complain before it's actually
removed.

Also, the shrink wrap shodl be removed and it shoudl be back on the
collection schedule until the election .

Call the radio stations and newspaper too.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:01:25 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 8/26/20 2:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:

I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick
up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.

Rural mailboxes work the same in Nebraska. Flip the flag up for
outgoing mail. That would be things like letters, cards, and checks
to pay bills. People would take packages into town to be mailed because
they wouldn't know how much postage to put on them.

When I was a kid, folks on the rural route would place their outgoing
package inside their mailbox if it would fit, or lean it against the post
if it was too big. No postage at all. We'd pick it up, take it to the PO
where it was weighed and stamped, then a Postage Due card would go into
their box the next day. A day or two after that, they'd place the envelope
with the money in the box for us to collect.

I think that level of trust probably doesn't exist anymore.

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:12:47 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:01:25 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 8/26/20 2:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:

I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick
up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.

Rural mailboxes work the same in Nebraska. Flip the flag up for
outgoing mail. That would be things like letters, cards, and checks
to pay bills. People would take packages into town to be mailed because
they wouldn't know how much postage to put on them.

When I was a kid, folks on the rural route would place their outgoing
package inside their mailbox if it would fit, or lean it against the post
if it was too big. No postage at all. We'd pick it up, take it to the PO
where it was weighed and stamped, then a Postage Due card would go into
their box the next day. A day or two after that, they'd place the envelope
with the money in the box for us to collect.

Wait a second. If you're a kid, why are you collecting the money?

I think that level of trust probably doesn't exist anymore.

Well of course not, with the kids collecting all the money.

On 8/26/2020 3:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:
AK wrote:
The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my
apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5 miles
away.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy


I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick
up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.

Are you saying that in your neighborhood only outgoing mail gets stolen
from street-side boxes? Doesn't sound like very intelligent thievery.
Don't your local thieves want financial, insurance, and utility,
statements with account numbers, greeting cards with checks inside,
social security checks, new/renewed credit/debit cards, etc.? I
recently moved after 30 years living in a house with a street-side box.
Our neighborhood had periodic vandalism involving box bashing and pole
bending, but never stolen mail. If you normally get mail at least
3x/week, no need to put up the red flag to announce to the world that
you've got outgoing mail inside. The post office delivery person will
pick up whatever you put in there that has an address different than
your own when new mail is delivered. If your outgoing mail is very time
sensitive, it probably should be mailed directly into the slot at the
nearest branch post office.

On 8/26/20 5:01 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

[snip]

Â*Â*Â*Â* Rural mailboxes work the same in Nebraska.Â* Flip the flag up for
outgoing mail.Â*Â* That would be things like letters, cards,Â* and checks
to pay bills.Â* People would take packages into town to be mailed because
they wouldn't know how much postage to put on them.

I live in a newer part of town where they use the same mailboxes. The
mail carrier does pick up mail but ignores the flag.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Religion is all bunk." -- Thomas Edison

On 8/26/2020 7:53 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/26/2020 6:00 PM, Neil Kelly wrote:
On 8/26/2020 3:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:
AK wrote:
The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail next to my apartments.

Has anyone else seen this?

Now, the closest place to drop off mail is at the post office 5 miles away.

The guy running the USPS needs to be fired.

Just my opinion.

Andy


I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some people down the street have one of the post office installed group mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.


Don't other people have a constitutional right to take what's yours?


F'ing commie Bob?


I sometimes wonder if Bob Four and Trader Four are brothers.


--
Demolitioncrats are destroying America!

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:18:16 -0400, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:12:47 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:01:25 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 8/26/20 2:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 8/26/2020 11:52 AM, Ken wrote:

I do not know about your situation, but we can have the mailman pick
up mail by simply placing it in the mailbox and raising the flag.

If you don't mind your mail being stolen, that works here to. Some
people down the street have one of the post office installed group
mailboxes. I walk mine there for the locked outgoing box.

Rural mailboxes work the same in Nebraska. Flip the flag up for
outgoing mail. That would be things like letters, cards, and checks
to pay bills. People would take packages into town to be mailed because
they wouldn't know how much postage to put on them.

When I was a kid, folks on the rural route would place their outgoing
package inside their mailbox if it would fit, or lean it against the post
if it was too big. No postage at all. We'd pick it up, take it to the PO
where it was weighed and stamped, then a Postage Due card would go into
their box the next day. A day or two after that, they'd place the envelope
with the money in the box for us to collect.

Wait a second. If you're a kid, why are you collecting the money?

Where I grew up, it was a family affair. My grandfather was our town's
first postmaster. When he died suddenly, his son (my uncle) took over,
eventually doing the paper work to make it legal. When our town started to
offer rural mail delivery, another uncle stepped in to do that, eventually
doing the paper work to make it legal. Both of those uncles needed time off
now and then, so my dad would fill in for either of them, and when he
filled in for the rural mail delivery, he took me along to handle the mail
so he wouldn't have to slide across the seat at every stop. If both of my
uncles needed to be away at the same time, my mom would fill in. Neither of
my parents had taken the exam, but it was a very small town and everyone
knew that our family took care of the mail. On some of the days when my mom
was filling in as postmaster, if she needed to step away for a few hours
she'd have me come down to take her place. I started helping out with the
rural delivery and taking care of the office when I was 9 or 10, and
continued until I moved away at 18.

Oh, I almost forgot. I also delivered mail to half a dozen seniors in our
town, which was probably all of them. We didn't have formal mail delivery;
everyone was expected to pick up their mail at the PO. I was given their
box combinations, and every morning I'd go down and get their mail and take
it to their houses. My reward from most of them was a simple 'thank you',
but one lady used to give me a dime almost every day. That was a lot of
money back then, especially for a kid.

The town was small, just 4 blocks by 4 blocks, with about 35-40 people in
my earliest memory. On the day my buddy and I left for military service,
the population dropped to 31. I was away for quite a few years, but on my
next visit I learned that the population had dropped to 7, and now it's at
4. The writing is on the wall, but we did much better than another small
town 6 miles to the east. They had two residents for a number of years,
then the wife died and they had one resident for about 6 years. He had an
accident and had to be placed in a nursing home in the nearest bigger town,
but the small town carried on with no residents for another dozen years.
During the day, two guys came in from the surrounding area to run the grain
elevator and a woman came in from a nearby farm to run the Post Office.
Everything is closed now, though.

Long story, but you asked.

I think that level of trust probably doesn't exist anymore.

Well of course not, with the kids collecting all the money.

AK wrote:

The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The USPS refers to these as "collection boxes" and has been removing them from
residential areas for years. Shrink-wrapping is a bit odd. Usually, they are
just detached from their bases and hauled away. The shrink-wrapping was
probably done to prevent people from depositing mail to a box that was
scheduled for removal and was no longer being emptied regularly.

If you go to the USPS web site and search for collection boxes in your area,
you will see that most of them are now outside post office branches or in
high-traffic business areas such as shopping centers, office buildings, and
hospitals. The web site Mailbox Locate also lists the many, many remaining
locations for dropping off outgoing mail.

https://mailboxlocate.com

It has been this way for years. When I saw what a fuss the media was making
about collection boxes, I knew that this was fake news, an old story that had
suddenly been discovered and hyped for political purposes. It has apparently
escaped the attention of many in the press that first-class mail volume has
declined drastically in the Internet era, especially for mail generated by
households rather than businesses. Mail collection boxes are going the way of
the hitching post and the pay phone. Perhaps the next panic will be about the
disappearance of fax machines.

Yes, Trump lies. So do all politicians. And so does the press. It's not just
bias or spin. They flat out lie. That's the world we are living in. Maybe it
wasn't such a good idea to give Bill Clinton a pass on perjury?

(Neill Massello) writes:
AK wrote:

The USPS has shrinked wrapped a mailbox for outgoing mail
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The USPS refers to these as "collection boxes" and has been removing them from
residential areas for years.

IIRC, this policy started right after September 11, 2001
as an "anti-terrorist" measure. The same time that they
banned mailing anything over a couple of ounces via a
collection or drop box.

In (Scott Lurndal) writes:

[snip]

IIRC, this policy started right after September 11, 2001
as an "anti-terrorist" measure. The same time that they
banned mailing anything over a couple of ounces via a
collection or drop box.

that weight restriction has an interetsing history. It
started off at 16 ounces (one pound) as an emergency FAA
rule after TWA-800 was blown out of the sky by a bomb.

(Yeah, we know it wasn't, but still...)

WHen the FAA rule came out, the USPS immediately
put its own regulations into place.

Initially, if you slipped something over a pound into
the collection box, the USPS would slap a "GROUND TRANSPORT
ONLY" label on it and yes, truck it across.

Nowadays they pretty much just return it to sender.

Note that this restriction started at roughly the same
time as the Unabomer's attacks were getting publicity, so
many people mix and match the memories and believe these
limitations were courtesy of him. Nope, TWA-800.

The USPS has periodically reduced the weight allowed,
and it's now at (iirc) 12 ounces... I'm not sure if
this was from the FAA or just the USPS being ornery.


--
__________________________________________________ ___
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key

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On 8/26/20 7:40 PM, micky wrote:

Cut a bunch.

The USPS is not as business. It's a government service.

Cut more.

I've never looked what the Constitution says on the subject.
From Cato
https://www.cato.org/blog/us-postal-service-constitution
More here
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-8/
It looks like there doesn't have to be a Post Office as it is now.
The Constitution allows Congress to establish a Post Office but it
doesn't actually require Congress to set one up.
Our fearful leaders could shut down the whole thing and still be
following the Constitution.

On 8/28/20 6:22 PM, micky wrote:
Sleepy Joe knows more about the world and the US government when he's
sound asleep than trump knows when he's wide awake.

All those years in government and Biden hasn't done ****.

What makes you think that Biden will do anything useful now?

On 08/28/2020 06:43 PM, Dale Westin wrote:
On 8/28/20 6:22 PM, micky wrote:
Sleepy Joe knows more about the world and the US government when he's
sound asleep than trump knows when he's wide awake.

All those years in government and Biden hasn't done ****.

What makes you think that Biden will do anything useful now?


Sure he has. He's promoted legislation to lock up black males, cut some
really nice deals for the banks and credit card companies, voted for
involvement in any war that's come along, and a few other things. All he
has done was ****.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:43:20 -0400, Dale Westin
wrote:

On 8/28/20 6:22 PM, micky wrote:
Sleepy Joe knows more about the world and the US government when he's
sound asleep than trump knows when he's wide awake.

All those years in government and Biden hasn't done ****.

You're a very vulgar guy and you don't seem to know what you're talking
about. I'm not surpised, because those traits go together.


What makes you think that Biden will do anything useful now?

Lot of things.

But what makes you think trump won't be the lying, hate-mongering,
extortionist, administrative failure he's been for the next four years
that he's been for the last four.

North Korea, failure, China, failure. Iran, failure. Mexico,
failure. Canada, failure. It goes on.

micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:43:20 -0400, Dale Westin
wrote:

On 8/28/20 6:22 PM, micky wrote:
Sleepy Joe knows more about the world and the US government when he's
sound asleep than trump knows when he's wide awake.

All those years in government and Biden hasn't done ****.

You're a very vulgar guy and you don't seem to know what you're talking
about. I'm not surpised, because those traits go together.


What makes you think that Biden will do anything useful now?

Lot of things.

But what makes you think trump won't be the lying, hate-mongering,
extortionist, administrative failure he's been for the next four years
that he's been for the last four.

North Korea, failure, China, failure. Iran, failure. Mexico,
failure. Canada, failure. It goes on.

Well, to give credit where it's due, he has carried out his orders
from Putin pretty well. Putin must laugh every day as he sees
the USA leading the world in pandemic deaths.

--
Dan Espen