The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


My car just reduces the sound, not turn it off. You probably have to
program the computer to change it, not user options for it. Many cars
now restrict the use of radio and navigation while in reverse.

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:03:40 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


My car just reduces the sound, not turn it off.

That would probably be okay.

You probably have to
program the computer to change it, not user options for it.

I found the owners manual. It 's 600 pages!

It's a Honda Jazz, which is supposed to be the same a Fit.

Earlier, I tried to set the time, which was an hour off, an hour, 3
years and one month. I found "Time" but not how to set it. Then
connected the phone with bluetooth and the time became correct. Later
it was wrong again.

Many cars
now restrict the use of radio and navigation while in reverse.

I'm glad I learned about this on a rental car. I will remember to play
the radio while test-driving any car I buy in the future. I've only had
the car for a week and it's really annoying.

Why not ban the radio when going forward too! People spend a lot more
time going forward.

My 2000 Toyota solara convertible wouldn't let me put the top up or down
when the car was going more than about 3 mph. But I found the wire
from the body computer to the to the top relay and cut it. Same with
2005 Solara. I've had a power top that I could raise or lower when
moving for 50 years. But in any car I could buy, I don't think muting
the radio will be controlled by a wire I can cut.

According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have cut by
only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of times someone
backs into a person.

On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:44:05 +0300, micky
wrote:

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.

If you can live without all of that "back up" technology you paid for,
cut the wire that tells the ECU you are in reverse or put a switch on
it. Obviously the dash display is taken over by the back up camera and
they hijack the sound system for the warning beeper.

Many cars
now restrict the use of radio and navigation while in reverse.

I'm glad I learned about this on a rental car. I will remember to play
the radio while test-driving any car I buy in the future. I've only had
the car for a week and it's really annoying.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...w-us-vehicles/

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:58:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:44:05 +0300, micky
wrote:

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.

If you can live without all of that "back up" technology you paid for,
cut the wire that tells the ECU you are in reverse or put a switch on
it. Obviously the dash display is taken over by the back up camera and
they hijack the sound system for the warning beeper.

I wouldn't be so quick to do that. These systems interact, check themselves
and you might wind up with error msgs or something unexpected. And while
maybe they did it to use the sound system, I think it's more likely they
don't want noise and distraction to try to reduce backing up into things or people. If you have the radio blaring and Johnny is yelling, STOP, you
won't hear it.

On 5/14/2019 3:55 PM, micky wrote:

According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have cut by
only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of times someone
backs into a person.


I imagine those 10% are happy about it. Most cars have a terrible view
out the back. I love the camera in my car. I have a 10,2" screen and
gives the back, of course, but also a surround view. Some cars to have
crappy small viewing screens and probably are not that good.

If you can live without all of that "back up" technology you paid for,
cut the wire that tells the ECU you are in reverse or put a switch on
it. Obviously the dash display is taken over by the back up camera and
they hijack the sound system for the warning beeper.


I wouldn't be so quick to do that. These systems interact, check themselves
and you might wind up with error msgs or something unexpected. And while
maybe they did it to use the sound system, I think it's more likely they
don't want noise and distraction to try to reduce backing up into things or people.
If you have the radio blaring and Johnny is yelling, STOP, you
won't hear it.


If he doesn't care about accidently raising the Solara convertible
top when travelling down the expessway - I doubt that he cares
about Johnny's incessant screaming ! ... it's Micky, after all
... :-)
John T.

posted for all of us...



On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:44:05 +0300, micky
wrote:

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.

If you can live without all of that "back up" technology you paid for,
cut the wire that tells the ECU you are in reverse or put a switch on
it. Obviously the dash display is taken over by the back up camera and
they hijack the sound system for the warning beeper.

I would not recommend this. The money light will come on.

--
Tekkie

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:46:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:

If you can live without all of that "back up" technology you paid for,
cut the wire that tells the ECU you are in reverse or put a switch on
it. Obviously the dash display is taken over by the back up camera and
they hijack the sound system for the warning beeper.


I wouldn't be so quick to do that. These systems interact, check themselves
and you might wind up with error msgs or something unexpected. And while
maybe they did it to use the sound system, I think it's more likely they
don't want noise and distraction to try to reduce backing up into things or people.
If you have the radio blaring and Johnny is yelling, STOP, you
won't hear it.


If he doesn't care about accidently raising the Solara convertible
top when travelling down the expessway - I doubt that he cares
about Johnny's incessant screaming ! ... it's Micky, after all
.. :-)
John T.

I didn't get that at all. It sounded like he purposely disabled the
interlock so that they top would go up even with the car moving?
I see your point.

Ed Pawlowski wrote
micky wrote

According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have cut by
only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of times someone
backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids who have been
run over like that. I actually know one person who managed to do that.

Most cars have a terrible view out the back.

Yeah, even when just backing an empty trailer that you can't actually see.

I love the camera in my car. I have a 10,2" screen and gives the back, of
course, but also a surround view.

Surprisingly few have a completely integrated set of cameras
that automatically show you the front and back corner of the
car that is closest to something when parking etc.

And which operate as 360 degree dashcams when driving
and 360 degree surveillance cameras when parked etc.

Some cars to have crappy small viewing screens and probably are not that
good.

On 5/14/2019 4:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/14/2019 3:55 PM, micky wrote:

According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have cut by
only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of times someone
backs into a person.


I imagine those 10% are happy about it. Most cars have a terrible view
out the back.Â* I love the camera in my car. I have a 10,2" screen and
gives the back, of course, but also a surround view.Â*Â* Some cars to have
crappy small viewing screens and probably are not that good.

I have one and also an Eye Sight system which apparently has front and
rear emergency braking. Couple of weeks ago backing up in the Walmart
parking lot a woman darted in back of my car and a beep went off and car
appeared to slow down. It was disconcerting because my wife just
happened to call me at the time and the cell phone Blue Toothed to the
car also rang.

Using my separate GPS in the car for the first time, the radio stopped.
I don't know how it knew that the GPS was there but I found that the
radio had just turned itself way down and I probably could have used it
with the GPS on.

Sometimes you can tinker with the cars options to get the behavior that
you want.

On Wed, 15 May 2019 08:13:20 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



Surprisingly few have a completely integrated set of cameras
that automatically show you the front and back corner of the
car that is closest to something when parking etc.

And which operate as 360 degree dashcams when driving
and 360 degree surveillance cameras when parked etc.

Darn, you senile Ozzie cretin HAD to **** also in this thread! tsk

--
Richard addressing Rot Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On Tue, 14 May 2019 15:57:56 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:44:05 +0300, micky
wrote:

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.


If you can live without all of that "back up" technology you paid for,
cut the wire that tells the ECU you are in reverse or put a switch on
it. Obviously the dash display is taken over by the back up camera and
they hijack the sound system for the warning beeper.

Not too smart on a rental car.

On Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Mikey is like Trump - he manufactures a crisis on a regular basis.

On 5/14/2019 3:44 PM, micky wrote:
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.


LMAO! You're concerned about 20 second segment you "may" miss due to
backing up a car which I'm sure isn't often and you call me silly. LMAO!
That's funny.

Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have
cut by only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of
times someone backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

"Sanity Clause" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have
cut by only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of
times someone backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically reduce
to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would most likely
be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

Yeah spose so.

micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.

Part of the Honda Distracted Driver Safety System. Unless you can access
the developer menu in the system using a scan tool and dealer code it
cannot be turned off.

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:26:00 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically reduce
to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would most likely
be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

Yeah spose so.

You obviously also spose that you don't have to change your nym yet with
that one, you 85-year-old trolling senile asshole! tsk

--
Richard addressing Rot Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On 5/14/19 3:55 PM, micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have cut by
only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of times someone
backs into a person.

Most people are too stupid to use a turn signal.Â* You expect them to use a back up camera?

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 22:53:44 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 3:44 PM, micky wrote:
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.

What's silly is thinking that because I want to solve a small problem, I
wouldn't want to solve (and be good at solving) big problems. It works
the opposite way. People who let themselves be thumped by little
problems also get thumped by big ones.

LMAO! You're concerned about 20 second segment you "may" miss due to

I know darn well that every time I had to go in reverse since I've had
this car (7 days) I've missed what the speaker was saying. Five times
a day at least, and when exploring back woods and desert roads with dead
ends and move civilized places with parking spots more like 15 or 20
times a day. If I owned the car for 5 years, just using 5 times a day,
that's 9000 times.

I guess when life gives you problems and inconveniences, you just let
life push you around. I don't. I like to make my life better. But you
can just suck it up if you want.




backing up a car which I'm sure isn't often and you call me silly. LMAO!
That's funny.

In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 21:45:48 -0700, Sanity Clause
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have
cut by only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of
times someone backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

That's a good point, and if there had been any small children around in
the tens of 1000's of times I've backed up over the last decade, for
example, it would apply to me. But there haven't been.

In rec.autos.tech, on Wed, 15 May 2019 03:24:22 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.

Part of the Honda Distracted Driver Safety System. Unless you can access
the developer menu in the system using a scan tool and dealer code it
cannot be turned off.

Well I can't on a rental car, or while traveling. Oh well, it was worth
asking. But if Toyota has anything like it, I do have the ability to
set those hidden settings.

After a bunch of work, I got it to work on my car at home, but it's a
2005 and it had very few settings, none of which I wanted to change.
Mostly things about combustion iirc that I'd be afraid to change. The
same software applies maybe to 2019 and beyond. OTOH, Toyota has
stopped making even moderate sized convertibles, which is part of why I
got a 2005 and not newer. Next car might be a Mazda Miata or Chrysler
300.

In article , micky
wrote:


Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

That's a good point, and if there had been any small children around in
the tens of 1000's of times I've backed up over the last decade, for
example, it would apply to me. But there haven't been.

that's because when anyone sees you driving, be it children or adults,
they get the hell away.

micky wrote:

The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

You are information-adicted. Seek help -- but preferably not on the
Internet.

On 5/15/19 12:01 PM, micky wrote:
I know darn well that every time I had to go in reverse since I've had
this car (7 days) I've missed what the speaker was saying. Five times
a day at least, and when exploring back woods and desert roads with dead
ends and move civilized places with parking spots more like 15 or 20
times a day. If I owned the car for 5 years, just using 5 times a day,
that's 9000 times.

I guess when life gives you problems and inconveniences, you just let
life push you around. I don't. I like to make my life better. But you
can just suck it up if you want.


You won't miss much while backing up.

Most radio stations are 50% commercials, 45% blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-etc and 5% music.

"micky" wrote in message
...
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 21:45:48 -0700, Sanity Clause
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have
cut by only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of
times someone backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

That's a good point, and if there had been any small children around in
the tens of 1000's of times I've backed up over the last decade, for
example, it would apply to me. But there haven't been.

But its not feasible for the car to work out if you ever have any
little kids around and even if it could, doesn't cover the situation
where someone comes to visit with a little kid with them.

What would be a much better approach would be to allow the
radio to back up over what you missed automatically like some
TVs do. Still kill the audio when backing but continue on as if
there had been no quiet period when not backing anymore.

On 5/15/2019 12:01 PM, micky wrote:
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 22:53:44 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 3:44 PM, micky wrote:
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 13:51:10 -0400, Meanie
wrote:

On 5/14/2019 12:06 PM, micky wrote:
The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to
stop that.

If something important is on the radio, I have to park until it is over
before I back up or find some place where I can make a U-turn. It's
ridiculous.

The key to my Mazda 2 was stolen, so the rentacar company gave me a 2019
Honda.

This one has a backup camera, which turns off the sound whenever I back
up. It doesn't make it easier to back up, and the other car I once
drove didn't do that.

If it matters, I'll get the model (which is not displayed in the car.
Apparently it's a secret, but maybe it's on the outside), but the car is
outside (I didn't bring it in with me) so maybe the model doesn't
matter.


Do you drive backwards? What's the amount of time you back up...? 15, 30
seconds tops? You're seriously concerned about something important on
the radio you need to stop for 30 seconds of backing up?

Do you ever listen to a serious discussion show, or anything other than
music? The loss of 20 seconds can distort or cloud everything the
person says.

I'd hate to see you when a real crisis arises.

Don't be silly.

What's silly is thinking that because I want to solve a small problem, I
wouldn't want to solve (and be good at solving) big problems. It works
the opposite way. People who let themselves be thumped by little
problems also get thumped by big ones.

LMAO! You're concerned about 20 second segment you "may" miss due to

I know darn well that every time I had to go in reverse since I've had
this car (7 days) I've missed what the speaker was saying. Five times
a day at least, and when exploring back woods and desert roads with dead
ends and move civilized places with parking spots more like 15 or 20
times a day. If I owned the car for 5 years, just using 5 times a day,
that's 9000 times.

I guess when life gives you problems and inconveniences, you just let
life push you around. I don't. I like to make my life better. But you
can just suck it up if you want.




backing up a car which I'm sure isn't often and you call me silly. LMAO!
That's funny.




LMAO! Still funny. No, I don't concern myself with trivial problems,
thus, it's not a problem. I know how to choose my battles and missing a
15 or 20 second segment of a radio broadcast isn't a hindered effect on
my life. In fact, I'd categorize this concern as an anxiety issue for
those who fret over trivial issues. What's worse is you trying to alter
property that doesn't belong to you just to satisfy your angst of
missing mere seconds of radio.

Perhaps you need to stop exploring back woods and desert roads or
rent/buy a small vehicle which will allow a small radius to turn around.
Though, it's concerning what your objective is to explore these roads.
But better yet, I think you need help to overcome your anxiety over
trivial issues. Considering the amount of issues you post within this
group, I'm willing to bet the accuracy of your disorder is spot on.

In rec.autos.tech, on Wed, 15 May 2019 14:13:42 -0400, Biff Tannen
wrote:

On 5/15/19 12:01 PM, micky wrote:
I know darn well that every time I had to go in reverse since I've had
this car (7 days) I've missed what the speaker was saying. Five times
a day at least, and when exploring back woods and desert roads with dead
ends and move civilized places with parking spots more like 15 or 20
times a day. If I owned the car for 5 years, just using 5 times a day,
that's 9000 times.

I guess when life gives you problems and inconveniences, you just let
life push you around. I don't. I like to make my life better. But you
can just suck it up if you want.


You won't miss much while backing up.

Most radio stations are 50% commercials, 45% blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-etc and 5% music.

The ones I listen to almost all the time are 80 - 90% serious talk.

In rec.autos.tech, on Wed, 15 May 2019 12:08:51 -0600,
(Neill Massello) wrote:

micky wrote:

The 2019 Honda with the touchscreen that I am renting turns off the
radio/flashdrive/bluetooth sound whenever I back up. Is t here a way to

BTW, the earlier car, the Mazda 2, would pause what I was listening to,
even if was live streaming of a USA radio show, iirc, even if I turned
off the car or did other purposeful things. So you were sure to hear
everything. It even rewound a little bit, so it repeated the words
leading up to where I interrupted it. The only thing that undid this
was turning off the phone or closing the app.

But the Honda Jazz lets everything keep playing, even a radio connected
with bluetooth, but just mutes the sound. From one extreme to the
other.

stop that.

You are information-adicted. Seek help -- but preferably not on the
Internet.

Good point. I asked someone where to get help and they told me to
google, but maybe he meant non-Internet googling.

In rec.autos.tech, on Thu, 16 May 2019 04:28:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"micky" wrote in message
.. .
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 21:45:48 -0700, Sanity Clause
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have
cut by only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of
times someone backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

That's a good point, and if there had been any small children around in
the tens of 1000's of times I've backed up over the last decade, for
example, it would apply to me. But there haven't been.

But its not feasible for the car to work out if you ever have any
little kids around

True, but I could set it myself.

and even if it could, doesn't cover the situation
where someone comes to visit with a little kid with them.

True.

What would be a much better approach would be to allow the
radio to back up over what you missed automatically like some
TVs do. Still kill the audio when backing but continue on as if
there had been no quiet period when not backing anymore.

That would be good. Used to be, when shopping for a car or a lot of
other things, beside looks, there were only 2 or 3 things to consider,
but now the owners manual is 600 pages and different cars work
differently.

Oh yeah, I'll start a new thread about one other thing.

"micky" wrote in message
...
In rec.autos.tech, on Thu, 16 May 2019 04:28:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"micky" wrote in message
. ..
In rec.autos.tech, on Tue, 14 May 2019 21:45:48 -0700, Sanity Clause
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote:
According to some newspaper article online, back up cameras have
cut by only 10 percent (in cars that have them) the number of
times someone backs into a person.

I imagine those 10% are happy about it.

Specially the ones that have avoided killing their little kids
who have been run over like that. I actually know one person who
managed to do that.

I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

That's a good point, and if there had been any small children around in
the tens of 1000's of times I've backed up over the last decade, for
example, it would apply to me. But there haven't been.

But its not feasible for the car to work out if you ever have any
little kids around

True, but I could set it myself.

That wouldn't stop you running over a visitors little
kid, or when one is running around in the carpark
after it has escaped from its minder etc.

We've just had one running around on
the pitch during a full football match.

and even if it could, doesn't cover the situation where
someone comes to visit with a little kid with them.

True.

What would be a much better approach would be to allow the
radio to back up over what you missed automatically like some
TVs do. Still kill the audio when backing but continue on as if
there had been no quiet period when not backing anymore.

That would be good. Used to be, when shopping for a
car or a lot of other things, beside looks, there were only
2 or 3 things to consider,

Yeah, I didn't even bother with a test drive when I got the Hyundai
Getz new 13 years ago now and had no regrets with it.

Currently looking for a replacement, mainly to get a fancy
advanced cruise control that is smart enough to get the
speed limit from the database that always up to date and
be able to read road signs for stuff like road repairs etc
and can't even find one that will do that, even with the
expensive end of european cars. Presumably the Tesla
does that but an electric car is no use to me.

but now the owners manual is 600 pages

And plenty don't even have the manual available
so you can read it before buying the car new and
don't always spell out the detail, particularly on
whether the fancy cruise control uses a speed limit
database. I had to ask volvo if it does and it doesn't.

and different cars work differently.

Yeah, while ever things get more fancy, there
will be a range of ways of implementing that.

Oh yeah, I'll start a new thread about one other thing.

On Thu, 16 May 2019 04:28:06 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


I would also imagine that if the radio volume was to automatically
reduce to below bleeding-ears level when backing up, the driver would
most likely be able to hear little Suzie screaming "DADDY, STOP!!!!".

That's a good point, and if there had been any small children around in
the tens of 1000's of times I've backed up over the last decade, for
example, it would apply to me. But there haven't been.

But its not feasible for the car to work out if

In auto-contradicting mode again, you abnormal senile pest? BG

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On 5/15/2019 2:13 PM, Biff Tannen wrote:



You won't miss much while backing up.

Most radio stations are 50% commercials, 45%
blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-etc and 5% music.


I pay a ridiculous amount of money for SiriusXM for that reason. 99%
music. I don't even know (or care) if the AM/FM works in my car.

On Thu, 16 May 2019 05:35:16 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Yeah, while ever things get more fancy, there
will be a range of ways of implementing that.

You'd better be nice to micky mouse. He obviously hasn't yet realized what's
wrong with you, you senile pest!

--
Richard addressing Rot Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 22:06:22 +0300, micky
wrote:

In rec.autos.tech, on Wed, 15 May 2019 14:13:42 -0400, Biff Tannen
wrote:

On 5/15/19 12:01 PM, micky wrote:
I know darn well that every time I had to go in reverse since I've had
this car (7 days) I've missed what the speaker was saying. Five times
a day at least, and when exploring back woods and desert roads with dead
ends and move civilized places with parking spots more like 15 or 20
times a day. If I owned the car for 5 years, just using 5 times a day,
that's 9000 times.

I guess when life gives you problems and inconveniences, you just let
life push you around. I don't. I like to make my life better. But you
can just suck it up if you want.


You won't miss much while backing up.

Most radio stations are 50% commercials, 45% blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-blah-blah-blah-fake-laugh-etc and 5% music.

The ones I listen to almost all the time are 80 - 90% serious talk.
Depends what you call "serious" mabee you need Sirius

On 5/15/2019 3:06 PM, micky wrote:


The ones I listen to almost all the time are 80 - 90% serious talk.


Perhaps that's the reason why you're so uptight.