"Bob" wrote: So you just drilled into a bowling ball and did not tap it
for threads? Just drill it tight and screw it in?
^^^^^^^^^^^
Bob, you just gave me another idea which I think would work fine, and would
also provide an escape, in case of emergencies. Drill a hole to fit one of
those threaded inserts that's used to anchor bolts in comcrete. You drop a
little cone into the bottom of the hole, and then hammer the insert down.
The cone spreads it, locking it in. You then screw in an eyebolt.

"David Todtman" wrote in
news:OMnIc.1007764$Pk3.968105@pd7tw1no:

I don't get it. Guy wants to marry but wants to participate in a
stripper act? As part of the celebratory events surrounding the
marriage?

Looks like the guy should just forget the marriage idea and stay
single.

David Todtman


Nowadays most young bachelors expect some stripper action.

Bob wrote:

and I have seen him level headed after ~50 beers,

Yeah.
Because his drunk ass is passed out.

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
"David Todtman" wrote in message
news:OMnIc.1007764$Pk3.968105@pd7tw1no...
I don't get it. Guy wants to marry but wants to participate in a
stripper
act? As part of the celebratory events surrounding the marriage?

Looks like the guy should just forget the marriage idea and stay single.

David Todtman

He dosn't know about it yet.

When's his fiancé going to tell him, when they're standing in front of the
priest?

Joel. phx

On 12 Jul 2004 10:55:12 -0700, (Bob) wrote:

Thank you all for your advice and saftey warnings.

It sounds like some of you have had success with just drilling a hole
and screwing the bolt in. I will try this next, if it is loose, will
try will mixed epoxy on the threads.

I will start with a smaller test bolt to see how this goes. Would
wood screw type threads be better than regular machine threads for
this? I don't even know if I could find an eye bolt with wood
threads.

Should be easy to find.

I will have to yank the old eye bolt out, shouldn't be that hard, and
I will have to remove the gunk in that hole as best I can. When I
started doing it this way I thought it would work, damn. Never worked
with epoxy before.

While I am at home depot I will look for some kind of way to do the
compression ring thing, but as someone said I couldn't turn the top
nut past the visible end. I could use a jamb nut and washer setup on
the back end and turn the eye bolt, but this would move the bolt
further out of the hole, aesthetically this is not what I want.

The bowling pro shop was one of the best ideas I heard, but I would
rather do it myself, and I don't thikn they would be keen on the idea
of making restraints for people.

If the drilling fails and fails odviously because of tapping problems,
I might try to drill than tap. If that fails I am going JB weld in
the other fingerhole all at once. I was doing it a day at a time
before because I didn't think the stuff would set in a big puddle of
itself, I thought it had to be thin layers.

Another option, assuming you had a long enough bit, would be to drill
a hole all the way through the ball big enough for the bolt to slide
through. You'd need a looooong bolt, btw. Then drill a larger hole
on opposite end deep enough to countersink the nut you'll use to hold
the eyebolt in place. With a washer, lockwasher, and some locktite,
it won't be going anywhere.

But I still agree with the other guy that recommended premixing some
5-minute epoxy, fill the hole completely, then insert the bolt.
Several tubes of the liquid two part epoxy should work just fine.
Might want to grab a friend to help with this. You'll have to work
fast. Forget about digging out the failed attempt. Use a fresh
fingerhole for this.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."

"Bob" wrote in message
...
While I am at home depot I will look for some kind of way to do the
compression ring thing, but as someone said I couldn't turn the top
nut past the visible end. I could use a jamb nut and washer setup on
the back end and turn the eye bolt, but this would move the bolt
further out of the hole, aesthetically this is not what I want.

I was picturing the jamb nut method.

If you get the bolt length right (with relation to the depth of the hole),
you should be able to place the eye down in the hole and turn it (directly,
or by the first link of the attached chain) with a vice-grips. Once it
begins to tighten up, the eye shouldn't move much at all, as the rubber is
compressed. If anything, it should move in, just a bit.
--
Stephen
Home Page: stephmon.com
Satellite Hunting: sathunt.com

Bob wrote:

A buddy of mine is getting married, for his bachlor parties we are
going to tackle him and shackle a ball and chain to his leg. This way
the strippers will have to cut off his pants to get them off.

...

I was planning as a backup, to take a round container, fill it with
concrete and stick one of these bolts in there, this seems like the
simplest route.

Bob, I'd say go with the concrete. It wil be less work, and the results
will look better. A bowling ball, no matter what you do to it, is going to
look like... well, a bowling ball. :-)

You don't even need the bolts, just suspend the end of a piece of chain
right in to the cement while it cures, paint the ball (optional) and you're
done.

For detailed, step by step instructions, see:

http://come.to/pervy.tool.time/


Anyone got a line on a shackle? I was planning on using a masterlock
for the chain to the bolt, then a masterlock on the chain wrapped
around his leg.

Try:

http://www.sub-shop.com/catalog/fram...roductStart=15

Third item down would be good for a ball and chain I would think.
Actually, that looks good, but I'm not sure if that locks, but the same
place will probably have something that does, browse through the pages.

(Please don't ask me how I know about these URLs.) ;-)


--

- Jeff

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Proton Soup wrote:
"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."


Don't pee in what?

Bob

"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ...
"Bob" wrote: So you just drilled into a bowling ball and did not tap it
for threads? Just drill it tight and screw it in?
^^^^^^^^^^^
Bob, you just gave me another idea which I think would work fine, and would
also provide an escape, in case of emergencies. Drill a hole to fit one of
those threaded inserts that's used to anchor bolts in comcrete. You drop a
little cone into the bottom of the hole, and then hammer the insert down.
The cone spreads it, locking it in. You then screw in an eyebolt.

If you did it that way what would stop him from unscrewing it in the
bathroom? There shouldn't be too many emergancies, we arn't leaving
his house. And we will have to play it by ear if we do.

"Bob" wrote: If you did it that way what would stop him from unscrewing it
in the bathroom? (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^
That same question would apply to all the suggestions about drilling and
tapping, or drilling and screwing in a threaded eyebolt to an untapped hole.

So it turns out I was retarded, and all you have to do is drill a hole
and screw it in. No tapping required. I added some epoxy for good
measure, some in the hole and then coating the bolt. I screwed it in
and took the extra epoxy that seaped out and smoothed it around the
hole and bolt because it looks cool and was easier than wiping it off.

The failed attempt in the finger hole came out no problem, and there
was no real trouble cleaning the non-set epoxy out,just a mess. I was
even able to reuse the bolt.

I am going to find a leather strap to make the shackle out of so it
will be more comfortable.

Also, if you ever do this and are drilling by hand, start with a small
drill bit and build up to a bit that is a smidge smaller than the
actual bolt diameter. The unsteadyness of hand drilling into a round
object caused the drill to oscilate enough to mill the hole out to the
actual bolt diameter. My actual 1/2 inch drill bit made a hole too
big for my 1/2 inch bolt, had to drill twice.

Thanks for the advice.

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote: So you just drilled into a bowling ball and did not tap
it
for threads? Just drill it tight and screw it in?
^^^^^^^^^^^
Bob, you just gave me another idea which I think would work fine, and
would
also provide an escape, in case of emergencies. Drill a hole to fit one
of
those threaded inserts that's used to anchor bolts in comcrete. You
drop a
little cone into the bottom of the hole, and then hammer the insert
down.
The cone spreads it, locking it in. You then screw in an eyebolt.

If you did it that way what would stop him from unscrewing it in the
bathroom? There shouldn't be too many emergancies, we arn't leaving
his house. And we will have to play it by ear if we do.

When you screw in an eye-bolt with a wrench, you have at least twenty
centimetres of leverage and a better grip. When you try to unscrew it with
your fingers, you need to try to get about the same angular force with one
centimetre of leverage. So unless your mate is about twenty times stronger
than you are, he isn't going to unscrew it by hand.

Peter

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Proton Soup wrote:
"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."


Don't pee in what?

'A wise man does not **** into the wind'

very useful thing to know when you're rowing during the winter.

"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."

'A wise man does not **** into the wind'

very useful thing to know when you're rowing during the winter.

My latin is virtually non-existant, but that doesn't look like
a good translation, to me. Seems as if it ought to be ad ventum,
if you want into/towards the wind. non unrinat in ventum looks like
"go inside to ****, if it's windy" to me. Placement, as opposed to
orientation.

-Goedjn

Marriage is a committment between man and woman. Hiring a stripper is a
totally awful way to build trust and get the committment started.

A ball and chain symbolic of a wife, is a totally terrible idea, also.
Someone (probably you) doesn't understand the covenant of marriage.

Rethink the entire idea. You're a marriage wrecker.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"Bob" wrote in message
m...
Ok, had to post this anon so hopefully the groom will never find it.

A buddy of mine is getting married, for his bachlor parties we are
going to tackle him and shackle a ball and chain to his leg. This way
the strippers will have to cut off his pants to get them off.

So, I need to build this thing. I procured a bowling ball, a big eye
bolt, some masonry/metal epoxy, and some JB-Weld. I rigged up a coat
hanger and rubber band that holds the eye bolt in place in one of the
finger holes. And Day by day I have been filling the hole with the
epoxy and trying to mix it around the bolt with another piece of
coathanger.

Well It is a couple of days in, and the eyebolt is barley stiff in
there, and I
don't think the epoxy is setting right. And I know there is some
empty space in the hole between the bolt where the glue hasn't
reached. Part of it could be the fact that I can't really mix the
resin and the hardener well around the bolt. The other part of it
could be this was a bad idea.

If this dosn't work (it has to be strong as hell) I can pull/cut the
bolt out and use either the other finger hole or the thumb hole and
try again. So I had a couple of ideas.

Using JB weld or new tubes of epoxy, completely fill the hole with the
gunk and mix the resin and the hardener (forget what it is called in
the jb weld case), mix the them well in the finger hole, then stick
the eyebolt in and hopefully let it set.

or

Find a dowell made of some hard wood that is a good fit for the hole,
pound the crap out of it until it fills the hole, then drill a hole in
it and try to find a wood-thread eye bolt to screw in there. I don't
like this option, because the groom could unscrew the thing.

or

I was planning as a backup, to take a round container, fill it with
concrete and stick one of these bolts in there, this seems like the
simplest route.

So my questions:

Any other methods of doing this that I have overlooked, I already
tried google.

Will the JB weld set in a big puddle of itself in finger hole around a
bolt?

What is the best compound to use, liquid nails, epoxy, quickcrete?

Anyone got a line on a shackle? I was planning on using a masterlock
for the chain to the bolt, then a masterlock on the chain wrapped
around his leg.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:38:42 -0400, "
wrote:



"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."

'A wise man does not **** into the wind'

very useful thing to know when you're rowing during the winter.

My latin is virtually non-existant, but that doesn't look like
a good translation, to me. Seems as if it ought to be ad ventum,
if you want into/towards the wind. non unrinat in ventum looks like
"go inside to ****, if it's windy" to me. Placement, as opposed to
orientation.

BTW, I not that good at it either, but when used with the accusative,
"in" denotes into, towards, or against.

AFAIK, this isn't a classical Latin quote, but comes off some
relatively recent arch erected in Copenhagen, I think. But privately,
I like to imagine there was a sort of Latin Ben Franklin out there who
published a tablet inscribed with wise sayings that all began "Homo
sapiens non...". To think that is the origin or our species name
gives me great joy.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."

Peter Allen wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote: So you just drilled into a bowling ball and did not tap
it
for threads? Just drill it tight and screw it in?
^^^^^^^^^^^
Bob, you just gave me another idea which I think would work fine, and
would
also provide an escape, in case of emergencies. Drill a hole to fit
one
of
those threaded inserts that's used to anchor bolts in comcrete. You
drop a
little cone into the bottom of the hole, and then hammer the insert
down.
The cone spreads it, locking it in. You then screw in an eyebolt.

If you did it that way what would stop him from unscrewing it in the
bathroom? There shouldn't be too many emergancies, we arn't leaving
his house. And we will have to play it by ear if we do.

When you screw in an eye-bolt with a wrench, you have at least twenty
centimetres of leverage and a better grip. When you try to unscrew it with
your fingers, you need to try to get about the same angular force with one
centimetre of leverage. So unless your mate is about twenty times stronger
than you are, he isn't going to unscrew it by hand.

Peter

Well with everything set, it still appears you can turn the bolt by hand,
but barley. I if I tapped threads I could probably get it to screw lock
down in there with a big wrench and he would never get it off by hand.

--Falooley

If you are planning a stunt like that.... you are no friend.

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
Ok, had to post this anon so hopefully the groom will never find it.

A buddy of mine is getting married, for his bachlor parties we are
going to tackle him and shackle a ball and chain to his leg. This way
the strippers will have to cut off his pants to get them off.

So, I need to build this thing. I procured a bowling ball, a big eye
bolt, some masonry/metal epoxy, and some JB-Weld. I rigged up a coat
hanger and rubber band that holds the eye bolt in place in one of the
finger holes. And Day by day I have been filling the hole with the
epoxy and trying to mix it around the bolt with another piece of
coathanger.

Well It is a couple of days in, and the eyebolt is barley stiff in
there, and I
don't think the epoxy is setting right. And I know there is some
empty space in the hole between the bolt where the glue hasn't
reached. Part of it could be the fact that I can't really mix the
resin and the hardener well around the bolt. The other part of it
could be this was a bad idea.

If this dosn't work (it has to be strong as hell) I can pull/cut the
bolt out and use either the other finger hole or the thumb hole and
try again. So I had a couple of ideas.

Using JB weld or new tubes of epoxy, completely fill the hole with the
gunk and mix the resin and the hardener (forget what it is called in
the jb weld case), mix the them well in the finger hole, then stick
the eyebolt in and hopefully let it set.

or

Find a dowell made of some hard wood that is a good fit for the hole,
pound the crap out of it until it fills the hole, then drill a hole in
it and try to find a wood-thread eye bolt to screw in there. I don't
like this option, because the groom could unscrew the thing.

or

I was planning as a backup, to take a round container, fill it with
concrete and stick one of these bolts in there, this seems like the
simplest route.

So my questions:

Any other methods of doing this that I have overlooked, I already
tried google.

Will the JB weld set in a big puddle of itself in finger hole around a
bolt?

What is the best compound to use, liquid nails, epoxy, quickcrete?

Anyone got a line on a shackle? I was planning on using a masterlock
for the chain to the bolt, then a masterlock on the chain wrapped
around his leg.

Kettlebell and cuffs, dude.