How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read
--
Bod

On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems. The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions. It serves no
practical purpose. It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other. You can't fire a bad teacher. There is no consequence for
doing poorly. This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve. The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION. Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system. Disallow public
employees. Contract out to private companies.

On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.Â* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.Â* It serves no
practical purpose.Â* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.Â* You can't fire a bad teacher.Â* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.Â* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.Â* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Â*Â* Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.Â* Disallow public
employees.Â* Contract out to private companies.

Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.

--
Bod

On 10/30/2017 01:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people
- than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.Â* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.Â* It serves no
practical purpose.Â* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.Â* You can't fire a bad teacher.Â* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.Â* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.Â* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Â*Â* Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.Â* Disallow public
employees.Â* Contract out to private companies.

Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.


No problem. Gave me a chance to vent.

On 30/10/2017 09:09, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people
- than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.Â* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.Â* It serves no
practical purpose.Â* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.Â* You can't fire a bad teacher.Â* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.Â* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.Â* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Â*Â* Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.Â* Disallow public
employees.Â* Contract out to private companies.
Â*
Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.


No problem.Â* Gave me a chance to vent.

:-)

--
Bod

On 10/30/2017 5:09 AM, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people
- than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.Â* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.Â* It serves no
practical purpose.Â* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.Â* You can't fire a bad teacher.Â* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.Â* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.Â* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Â*Â* Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.Â* Disallow public
employees.Â* Contract out to private companies.
Â*
Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.


No problem.Â* Gave me a chance to vent.

Good job at venting. I was planning to reply with the simply answer of
government corruption who prefer to keep our money in their pockets. You
summed it up much better.

On 10/30/2017 6:45 AM, Meanie wrote:
On 10/30/2017 5:09 AM, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and
age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million
people - than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.Â* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.Â* It serves no
practical purpose.Â* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.Â* You can't fire a bad teacher.Â* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.Â* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.Â* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Â*Â* Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.Â* Disallow public
employees.Â* Contract out to private companies.
Â*
Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.


No problem.Â* Gave me a chance to vent.

Good job at venting. I was planning to reply with the simply answer of
government corruption who prefer to keep our money in their pockets. You
summed it up much better.

I agree with the argument that most educational money in the US is
wasted but doubt if illiteracy is much worse than rest of the developed
world.

I have always argued that technical illiteracy is worse than reading
illiteracy. Some that are highly literate as most are in government
have a poor understanding of technology and mandate a lot of stupid
technical things like ethanol must be used in gasoline.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read

As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/

http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/

Some are ineducable.

On 10/30/2017 9:48 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/

http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/

Some are ineducable.



It doesn't help that their "leaders" keep telling them so.

On 10/30/2017 9:52 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:48:51 -0000, Taxed and Spent wrote:

On 10/30/2017 9:48 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/

http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/

Some are ineducable.



It doesn't help that their "leaders" keep telling them so.

So what you're saying is they're stupid enough to believe that they're stupid. Doesn't that just make them stupid?



is it stupid to be lazy when people keep handing you stuff?

"Bod" wrote in message
...
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?

Partially because we have millions of immigrants from countries where
illteracy is the norm.

On 10/30/2017 1:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 10/30/2017 9:52 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:48:51 -0000, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

On 10/30/2017 9:48 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and
age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/


http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/


http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/


Some are ineducable.



It doesn't help that their "leaders" keep telling them so.

So what you're saying is they're stupid enough to believe that they're
stupid.** Doesn't that just make them stupid?



is it stupid to be lazy when people keep handing you stuff?


For me it is. They don't hand you enough free stuff to live the
lifestyle I want to live. Others are content to life is a dump of
section 8 housing as long as they have a 6-pack.

On 30/10/2017 15:03, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read

As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

But I thought the report said that without education, that they would
find it hard to get a job. Surely every kid should go to school.
Our parents get fined if their kids miss more than a few days off
without a decent excuse, like being ill etc.

So unless UK parents choose to home school them, then fines are imposed
for non attendance.
Also UK parents aren't allowed to take the kids on holiday during term
time, that would rack up another fine.


--
Bod

On 30/10/2017 16:48, rbowman wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/


http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/


http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/


Some are ineducable.

Interesting stuff.

--
Bod

On 30/10/2017 17:38, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:25:04 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 15:03, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

But I thought the report said that without education, that they would
find it hard to get a job. Surely every kid should go to school.
Our parents get fined if their kids miss more than a few days off
without a decent excuse, like being ill etc.

Which is insane.* The child is the parents' responsibility and not the
government's.* How well it gets educated is nothing to do with the
government, what we have in the UK is we're creating offspring which
belong to the state.* Everyone should tell them to **** off and home
school.

So unless UK parents choose to home school them, then fines are imposed
for non attendance.

I can't see that working.* Some kids truant.* They will always do so,
you can't fine the parent once they've got to the school.* You also
can't expect a family with two working parents to drive them there.* If
the child walks to school but ****s off somewhere on the way, that is
not the parents' fault.

Also UK parents aren't allowed to take the kids on holiday during term
time, that would rack up another fine.

We used to, many of my friends did so when I were a lad.* Cheaper time
of year or better weather.* What ****ing business is it of the
government when people take holidays?* My friends simply got notes form
the teachers of classes they missed and read up on them at home later.

It wasn't he law when you were a tearaway.

--
Bod

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 10:06:27 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
J. Burke" wrote:

On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people - than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Those aren't people, ya limey ****tard.... Them is niggas!

And YOU is ONE ob dem!
- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

Iudaei orbem terrarum infestant.
- correct Latin

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade
Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade
Unionist. Then they came for the jews, and I did not speak out
because I did not give a ****. Then they came for me and there
wasn't a single commie ******* left to speak for me."
- Martin Niemöller (1892 - 1984)

Fformby-Smythe's Law of zionism:
"The importance of 'Israeel' to any given jew is directly proportional
to the square of the distance between that jew and 'Israeel'."

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000, Bod wrote:

when you were a tearaway.

??? Is that like a British Terroist?

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:12:35 -0700, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry'
Shein's jew aliash)", farted again:

Those aren't people, ya limey ****tard.... Them is niggas!

And YOU is ONE ob dem!

Never forget, Retardovic: YOU are and will always be everybody's "nigga"
....on Usenet AND in real life!

--
The top 5 truths about poor dumb Razovic, our colostomy bag wearing resident
psychopath, aka "The Rectum":

the desperate psycho can't SLEEP anymore,
she can't get out of the house anymore,
she got NOBODY to talk to anymore,
she can't **** anymore,
she got no life outside Usenet AT ALL!

rbowman wrote:

Some are ineducable.

Please report to the nearest re-education camp. It is thoughtcrime to
notice the embarrassing patterns that emerge when you inquire as to
*who* is illiterate (or *who* commits crime, etc).

On 30/10/2017 18:40, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000, Bod wrote:

when you were a tearaway.

??? Is that like a British Terroist?

tearaway

nounBRITISH
a person who behaves in a wild or reckless manner.
"some young tearaways set fire to the house"
synonyms: hooligan, hoodlum, ruffian, lout, rowdy, roughneck; More

--
Bod

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:48:58 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 18:40, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000, Bod wrote:

when you were a tearaway.

??? Is that like a British Terroist?

tearaway

nounBRITISH
a person who behaves in a wild or reckless manner.
"some young tearaways set fire to the house"
synonyms: hooligan, hoodlum, ruffian, lout, rowdy, roughneck; More

Chuckle. Count me in.

More specifically; I'm a recalcitrant.

On 30/10/2017 20:33, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:48:58 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 18:40, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000, Bod wrote:

when you were a tearaway.

??? Is that like a British Terroist?

tearaway

nounBRITISH
a person who behaves in a wild or reckless manner.
"some young tearaways set fire to the house"
synonyms: hooligan, hoodlum, ruffian, lout, rowdy, roughneck; More

Chuckle. Count me in.

More specifically; I'm a recalcitrant.

A stubborn little bugger then :-)

--
Bod

On 30/10/2017 20:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 20:33:11 -0000, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:48:58 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 18:40, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000, Bod wrote:

when you were a tearaway.

???* Is that like a British Terroist?

tearaway

nounBRITISH
a person who behaves in a wild or reckless manner.
"some young tearaways set fire to the house"
synonyms:*** hooligan, hoodlum, ruffian, lout, rowdy, roughneck; More

Chuckle. Count me in.

More specifically; I'm a recalcitrant.

I had to look that up.* I'm one of those too.** I worked out that I can
break EIGHT traffic laws within 10 minutes.

I think that qualifies you as the winner of the *Hand to Gland Combat
2017 World Champion* award, outright.

--
Bod

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:25:04 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 15:03, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read

As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

But I thought the report said that without education, that they would
find it hard to get a job. Surely every kid should go to school.
Our parents get fined if their kids miss more than a few days off
without a decent excuse, like being ill etc.

So unless UK parents choose to home school them, then fines are imposed
for non attendance.
Also UK parents aren't allowed to take the kids on holiday during term
time, that would rack up another fine.

What do you do if one parent is in prison and the other is a crack
whore? We are dealing with families who are 3d even 4th generation
welfare recipients with many having a criminal record or presently
serving time.
They can't remember anyone in their family who really had a career,
just odd jobs that pay less than welfare. ... or they are making $500
a day slinging crack.
Neither really makes you want to learn algebra.

On 30/10/2017 21:14, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:25:04 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 15:03, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read

As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

But I thought the report said that without education, that they would
find it hard to get a job. Surely every kid should go to school.
Our parents get fined if their kids miss more than a few days off
without a decent excuse, like being ill etc.

So unless UK parents choose to home school them, then fines are imposed
for non attendance.
Also UK parents aren't allowed to take the kids on holiday during term
time, that would rack up another fine.

What do you do if one parent is in prison and the other is a crack
whore? We are dealing with families who are 3d even 4th generation
welfare recipients with many having a criminal record or presently
serving time.
They can't remember anyone in their family who really had a career,
just odd jobs that pay less than welfare. ... or they are making $500
a day slinging crack.
Neither really makes you want to learn algebra.

Wow! point taken.

--
Bod

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 20:43:36 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 20:33, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:48:58 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 18:40, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000, Bod wrote:

when you were a tearaway.

??? Is that like a British Terroist?

tearaway

nounBRITISH
a person who behaves in a wild or reckless manner.
"some young tearaways set fire to the house"
synonyms: hooligan, hoodlum, ruffian, lout, rowdy, roughneck; More

Chuckle. Count me in.

More specifically; I'm a recalcitrant.

A stubborn little bugger then :-)

Got my stubbornness from Mon's side. Hard handedness from bumps and
knocks on my head, sort of an immunity. Tree roots hurt unless they
don't break over my head.

On 10/30/2017 04:07 AM, Frank wrote:
Some that are highly literate as most are in government have a poor
understanding of technology and mandate a lot of stupid technical things
like ethanol must be used in gasoline.

That is palm waxing and they understand it very well. Ethanol in
gasoline is so, so stupid. Follow the money.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 06:45:05 -0400, Meanie wrote:

On 10/30/2017 5:09 AM, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people
- than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.* It serves no
practical purpose.* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.* You can't fire a bad teacher.* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.** Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.* Disallow public
employees.* Contract out to private companies.
*
Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.


No problem.* Gave me a chance to vent.

Good job at venting. I was planning to reply with the simply answer of
government corruption who prefer to keep our money in their pockets. You
summed it up much better.
Fix the problem. Become a teacher. See if you think you are overpayed
by the end of the first year - then the second - or the third.

See if you can do any better - if you can, I'll listen to your
bitching.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 13:09:07 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote:


"Bod" wrote in message
...
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?

Partially because we have millions of immigrants from countries where
illteracy is the norm.

N0, it is NOT recent immigrants who are illiterate. (For the first
couple of years, perhaps - but there are more american born, second ti
20th generation Americans who are illiterate because literacy has had
no value to them. And they are most definitely NOT all Democrats
The largest percentage are in republican states and districts. And no,
they are not all black or hispanic either.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 13:09:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 10/30/2017 1:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 10/30/2017 9:52 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:48:51 -0000, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

On 10/30/2017 9:48 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and
age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/


http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/


http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/


Some are ineducable.



It doesn't help that their "leaders" keep telling them so.

So what you're saying is they're stupid enough to believe that they're
stupid.** Doesn't that just make them stupid?



is it stupid to be lazy when people keep handing you stuff?


For me it is. They don't hand you enough free stuff to live the
lifestyle I want to live. Others are content to life is a dump of
section 8 housing as long as they have a 6-pack.
and a handfull of ammo, and their drug of choice whether tobacco,
weed, or misc chemicals.

On 10/30/2017 02:38 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 06:45:05 -0400, Meanie wrote:

On 10/30/2017 5:09 AM, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 08:13, T wrote:
On 10/30/2017 12:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people
- than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and
there is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


Part of it is because the Federal government has taken a lot of control
away from local school systems.Â* The department of education
is a simple political pay off to the unions.Â* It serves no
practical purpose.Â* It is political corruption.

And the Democratic part and the teachers unions are in bed with each
other.Â* You can't fire a bad teacher.Â* There is no consequence for
doing poorly.Â* This corruption is so bad that in my state alone,
teachers make double what the private sector makes for the same
education and their retirement is off the chart.

The corruption is so bad that our Democratic party controlled
state supreme court years ago pulled s*** out of their ass and
forced through a tax increase for "education" which WAS NOT IN
OUR STATE CONSTITUTION, over riding A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE that
put the tax law there to start with.

And the same bunch of totalitarianists disallowed a ballot initiative
that would have removed another tax increase that our liar
of a governer jammed through for (ha ha) "education".

If you look at the USA's money spend for child you will find
an inverse curve.Â* The more you spend, THE WORSE the outcome.

We have something like two teachers for every administrator.
It is corruption on a grand scale.

So the answer your question, it is POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Â*Â* Follow
the money.

The solution is to privatize the school system.Â* Disallow public
employees.Â* Contract out to private companies.
Â*
Ok, thanks for the explanation, Mr T.


No problem.Â* Gave me a chance to vent.

Good job at venting. I was planning to reply with the simply answer of
government corruption who prefer to keep our money in their pockets. You
summed it up much better.
Fix the problem. Become a teacher. See if you think you are overpayed
by the end of the first year - then the second - or the third.

See if you can do any better - if you can, I'll listen to your
bitching.



Clare,

My wife's side of the family is full of teachers. My
sister is a (terrible) teacher (that can't be fired). The
notion that they are starving is absolute garbage. It
is mostly union propaganda wanting even more money.

The public sector education establishment pay, beni's
and retirement are off the charts.

If you do not believe me, take a look at what private
sector teachers get paid versus public sector teachers
(and their endless line of useless administrators) get
paid.

And why is it the private schools do a better job that
public schools at 1/3 to 1/6 the money? This is corruption.

The solution is to privative our schools. Contract them
out like trash and water. Get the Fed the hell out of it too,

And, ANYONE who gets paid by THREATENING other with the
loss of the freedom and/or their property (gun in the back)
should never get paid more that the equivalent job in the
private sector. 80% would be the proper level. And never
unionize.

Please keep in mind that the delegates to the Democratic
convention are about ~45 to 55 (union) teachers depending
on the year. This incestuous corruption has to stop.

-T

My sister is an awful teacher. She passes illiterate students
through to the next teacher rather than fixing the problem.
And guess what? She can't be fired. She is a civil
service missile:

1) cost too much,
2) doesn't work, and
3) can't be fired

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:14:39 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:25:04 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 30/10/2017 15:03, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read

As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

But I thought the report said that without education, that they would
find it hard to get a job. Surely every kid should go to school.
Our parents get fined if their kids miss more than a few days off
without a decent excuse, like being ill etc.

So unless UK parents choose to home school them, then fines are imposed
for non attendance.
Also UK parents aren't allowed to take the kids on holiday during term
time, that would rack up another fine.

What do you do if one parent is in prison and the other is a crack
whore? We are dealing with families who are 3d even 4th generation
welfare recipients with many having a criminal record or presently
serving time.
They can't remember anyone in their family who really had a career,
just odd jobs that pay less than welfare. ... or they are making $500
a day slinging crack.
Neither really makes you want to learn algebra.

Answer: Open and read letters coming in to the crook. Read outgoing
mail that is not sealed. (legal mail is sealed) File a synopsis to the
investigative office. Get promoted for a good job. Have a beverage.

On 10/30/2017 10:25 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/10/2017 15:03, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:52:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?
Many complain that the system fails those who need extra help and there
is a big disparity between rich and poor areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...who-can-t-read


As long as we have a culture that believes you make better money being
a gangster drug dealer (or just sucking down welfare checks) than you
do getting a real job, education will not be important to that sector
of the population, no matter how much money we throw at it.

But I thought the report said that without education, that they would
find it hard to get a job. Surely every kid should go to school.
Our parents get fined if their kids miss more than a few days off
without a decent excuse, like being ill etc.

So unless UK parents choose to home school them, then fines are imposed
for non attendance.
Also UK parents aren't allowed to take the kids on holiday during term
time, that would rack up another fine.



Hi Bod,

What does the UK do with misbehaving students? Haul their
parents to court? Maybe we can learn something from you.

-T

On 10/30/2017 10:49 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:48:44 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 10/30/2017 01:52 AM, Bod wrote:
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...ing-standards/


http://ourweekly.com/news/2013/oct/0...iteracy-rates/


http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...ung-black-men/


Some are ineducable.

Then stop trying to educ them. Educating is better :-)


The US has been trying that for over 50 years. One has to conclude the
experiment failed. The only question to be resolved is if they could
learn if they wanted to or if it was a hopeless endeavor to start with
but there is no way that conversation will ever take place.

On 10/30/2017 11:09 AM, dadiOH wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message
...
How come a great country like America has so many in this day and age!?

The US has more citizens who are illiterate - some 16 million people -
than many of its developed counterparts. Why is that?

Partially because we have millions of immigrants from countries where
illteracy is the norm.



https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/n...452171623.html


That's no barrier to citizenship. A rudimentary grasp of English or
literacy in any known language apparently is optional.

On 10/30/2017 01:37 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
rbowman wrote:

Some are ineducable.

Please report to the nearest re-education camp. It is thoughtcrime to
notice the embarrassing patterns that emerge when you inquire as to
*who* is illiterate (or *who* commits crime, etc).


I've been one step ahead of the Thought Police most of my life.

On 10/30/2017 03:38 PM, wrote:
Fix the problem. Become a teacher. See if you think you are overpayed
by the end of the first year - then the second - or the third.

I taught seventh and eight grades for half a year; suddenly an all
expense paid vacation in southeast Asia looked inviting.

On 10/30/2017 06:35 PM, rbowman wrote:

[snip]

I've been one step ahead of the Thought Police most of my life.

"Big Brother is doubleplusungood." :-)

--
56 days until the winter celebration (Monday December 25, 2017 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

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On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 6:33:08 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 10/30/2017 01:37 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
rbowman wrote:

Some are ineducable.

Please report to the nearest re-education camp. It is thoughtcrime to
notice the embarrassing patterns that emerge when you inquire as to
*who* is illiterate (or *who* commits crime, etc).

I've been one step ahead of the Thought Police most of my life.


Pitter patter! Pitter patter! Pitter patter! Pitter patter! ヽ(ヅ)ノ

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