I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?

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On 7/13/2017 4:44 PM, Nannette Kendall wrote:
I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However,
it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


What makes you think it is rust? Could be what she is putting in it
forming a crust over time and causing it to stall. I bet if she
flippied it on for just a second every couple of days it would be better.

It i also possible the disposal is 30 years old with dried up bearings.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?

Tell her to run it more often. It is getting jammed up by stuff she
does not think requires the disposal to get rid of. A dishwasher is
famous for that.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It is
just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It is
just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't have a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down there, but it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep work, debris that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it at least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It is
just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

� am curious as to your use of the word "typical". Based on my experience of roughly
30 years of having a garbage disposal in my house and one in each half of a duplex that
other family members lived in, I have replaced the disposal in each of the houses once.
I would estimate that the old, noisy ones lasted 15 - 20 years. The InSinkErators that I
replaced them with are much quieter are still going strong.

As far as jamming, my old Kenmore POS used to jam and required the use of the
reversing wrench every now and then, but the InSinkErators have been jam free since
installation well over 10 years ago. (Plus it's so quiet that I sometimes forget it's on
until I turn the water off)

Has your experience been that disposals seize up on a regular basis?

I have to disagree on the "just as easy to put food waste in the garbage can" comment
also. A quick rinse of food scraps into the drain and the flip of a switch is pretty darn easy.
Much easier than using the standard sink strainer basket to catch the scraps and then dumping
it, rinsing it, etc.

IMHO, of course.

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It is
just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't have a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down there, but it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep work, debris that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it at least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 9:06:41 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It is
just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't have a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down there, but it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep work, debris that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it at least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

I have seen them seize just from sitting there, not used for a week or two. I don't think new quality ones do it, but cheap failing ones I have seen. It's probably going to go before too long, but using it every few days may keep it going for a while.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:58:52 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal. However, it is
seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just rusting to the point it
won't turn? If so, is there a way to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It is
just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Ï am curious as to your use of the word "typical". Based on my experience of roughly
30 years of having a garbage disposal in my house and one in each half of a duplex that
other family members lived in, I have replaced the disposal in each of the houses once.
I would estimate that the old, noisy ones lasted 15 - 20 years. The InSinkErators that I
replaced them with are much quieter are still going strong.

As far as jamming, my old Kenmore POS used to jam and required the use of the
reversing wrench every now and then, but the InSinkErators have been jam free since
installation well over 10 years ago. (Plus it's so quiet that I sometimes forget it's on
until I turn the water off)

Has your experience been that disposals seize up on a regular basis?

I have to disagree on the "just as easy to put food waste in the garbage can" comment
also. A quick rinse of food scraps into the drain and the flip of a switch is pretty darn easy.
Much easier than using the standard sink strainer basket to catch the scraps and then dumping
it, rinsing it, etc.

IMHO, of course.

We have rentals. The garbage disposals have always been the #1 cause
of repair calls for us. Eliminating the disposals dramatically
reduced repair visits and the tenants easily adapted to their absence.
I also did not experience any increase in drain clogs.

When I replaced the disposals, I used very high quality sink strainers
that do an excellent job of filtering out everything from bits of food
to animal fur and hair.

As always, your personal experiences might be different, but I prefer
to have the lowest maintenance investments possible. Additionally,
being in California, anything we can do to reduce water use is a
positive thing.

DerbyDad03 writes:

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal.
However, it is seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just
rusting to the point it won't turn? If so, is there a way to
lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It
is just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't have
a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down there, but
it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep work, debris
that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it at
least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when
she tries to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that
it *is* seized up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if
it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to
free up whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

Thanks Derby. I agree, the problem description was so bad as to be
incomprehensible. (To me.) How the hell can someone "rarely" use
something that is seized up? If it's seized up, you can't use it at
all.

I have a disposal, I like it fine. It's never been jammed if that's what
the OP is trying to say. If it jams, use the key to free it up and stop
putting things in there that jam it up.

If these are tenants, sure you can take away appliances and then they
can never call and complain the appliances don't work.

--
Dan Espen

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 12:16:48 AM UTC-4, Dan Espen wrote:
DerbyDad03 writes:

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal.
However, it is seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just
rusting to the point it won't turn? If so, is there a way to
lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It
is just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't have
a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down there, but
it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep work, debris
that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it at
least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when
she tries to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that
it *is* seized up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if
it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to
free up whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

Thanks Derby. I agree, the problem description was so bad as to be
incomprehensible. (To me.) How the hell can someone "rarely" use
something that is seized up? If it's seized up, you can't use it at
all.


Perzactly.


I have a disposal, I like it fine. It's never been jammed if that's what
the OP is trying to say. If it jams, use the key to free it up and stop
putting things in there that jam it up.

Tru Dat.


If these are tenants, sure you can take away appliances and then they
can never call and complain the appliances don't work.


My daughter recently moved into an apartment. The disposal was old, loud and leaking. We
put it on the punch list of the things that needed attention and gave it to the landlord.
The disposal was replaced with a brand new (quiet) one the next day.

As they say, different strokes.

DerbyDad03 writes:

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 12:16:48 AM UTC-4, Dan Espen wrote:
DerbyDad03 writes:

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal.
However, it is seized up when she does try to use it. Is it
just rusting to the point it won't turn? If so, is there a way
to lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that
makes them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the
disposal completely, you will save money and reduce tenant
complaints. It is just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen
garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't
have a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down
there, but it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep
work, debris that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it
at least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when
she tries to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but
that it *is* seized up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized
or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench
to free up whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

Thanks Derby. I agree, the problem description was so bad as to be
incomprehensible. (To me.) How the hell can someone "rarely" use
something that is seized up? If it's seized up, you can't use it at
all.


Perzactly.


I have a disposal, I like it fine. It's never been jammed if that's
what the OP is trying to say. If it jams, use the key to free it up
and stop putting things in there that jam it up.

Tru Dat.


If these are tenants, sure you can take away appliances and then they
can never call and complain the appliances don't work.


My daughter recently moved into an apartment. The disposal was old,
loud and leaking. We put it on the punch list of the things that
needed attention and gave it to the landlord. The disposal was
replaced with a brand new (quiet) one the next day.

As they say, different strokes.

Yep.

When I had my first disposal installed, the contractor went for an
Insinkerator base model. It was pretty loud and only lasted 4 or 5
years before leaking. I went and bought another Insinkerator and saw
that they sell base models and really good lifetime guaranteed models.
I think I'm at about 12 years now. It's quiet and does the job.

--
Dan Espen

On 7/14/2017 6:51 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

If these are tenants, sure you can take away appliances and then they
can never call and complain the appliances don't work.


My daughter recently moved into an apartment. The disposal was old, loud and leaking. We
put it on the punch list of the things that needed attention and gave it to the landlord.
The disposal was replaced with a brand new (quiet) one the next day.

As they say, different strokes.


Her landlord probably realizes the more expensive unit means less
problems, making it cheapest solution in the long run.

In this house I'm on my second KitchenAid (sibling of InSinkErator) in
36 years.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:16:41 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote:

DerbyDad03 writes:

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:12:49 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:44:02 GMT, Nannette Kendall
m wrote:

I have a tenant who says she rarely uses her garbage disposal.
However, it is seized up when she does try to use it. Is it just
rusting to the point it won't turn? If so, is there a way to
lubricate it to keep it from rusting?


This is typical of disposals, which is one of the things that makes
them a major pain in the butt. Consider eliminating the disposal
completely, you will save money and reduce tenant complaints. It
is just as easy to put food waste in the kitchen garbage can.

Or for the tenant to then just put it down the drain. I wouldn't have
a kitchen sink without one. I don't put big stuff down there, but
it's perfect for all the small scraps left from prep work, debris
that comes off dirty pots, etc.

As for the problem, it may be bearings starting to go, running it at
least a couple times a week might keep it going though.

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when
she tries to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that
it *is* seized up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if
it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to
free up whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

Thanks Derby. I agree, the problem description was so bad as to be
incomprehensible. (To me.) How the hell can someone "rarely" use
something that is seized up? If it's seized up, you can't use it at
all.

I have a disposal, I like it fine. It's never been jammed if that's what
the OP is trying to say. If it jams, use the key to free it up and stop
putting things in there that jam it up.

If these are tenants, sure you can take away appliances and then they
can never call and complain the appliances don't work.

Many disposals, when not used often, will stick due to corrosion. One
can use the wood handle of a cheap hammer or other similar object to
free them up.

As for taking away appliances; if it doesn't reduce the amount of rent
you can charge (it doesn't) and if it doesn't benefit the property
owner (they don't) and if they require more attention than, let's say
a water heater, then it doesn't make sense to include them, IMHO.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

A cutter blade may have gotten wompus-kitty, broke and/or jammed.

Shine a bright light down the hole :-\

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:16:41 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

A cutter blade may have gotten wompus-kitty, broke and/or jammed.

Shine a bright light down the hole :-\

Tell the OP. My disposal is working just fine. ;-)

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 7/14/2017 6:51 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

If these are tenants, sure you can take away appliances and then they
can never call and complain the appliances don't work.


My daughter recently moved into an apartment. The disposal was old, loud and leaking. We
put it on the punch list of the things that needed attention and gave it to the landlord.
The disposal was replaced with a brand new (quiet) one the next day.

As they say, different strokes.


Her landlord probably realizes the more expensive unit means less
problems, making it cheapest solution in the long run.


It's also probably the reason that the landlord told us that the tenants in the other
3 apartments have been there for going on 10 years each. The apartment my
daughter moved into was occupied for 8 years by the prior tenant. His job took
him out of town.

Treat 'em right and they hang around. That's gotta be cheaper in the long run too.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:



Tell the OP. My disposal is working just fine. ;-)

The garbage disposal OP is most likely on vacation with the OP from
the barn door, particle board issue. Neither of them have surfaced
since posting......

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:00:19 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:



Tell the OP. My disposal is working just fine. ;-)

The garbage disposal OP is most likely on vacation with the OP from
the barn door, particle board issue. Neither of them have surfaced
since posting......

Maybe the particle board OP shoved the barn door down this OP's disposal.

That would probably cause it to seize.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:26:36 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:00:19 PM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:



Tell the OP. My disposal is working just fine. ;-)

The garbage disposal OP is most likely on vacation with the OP from
the barn door, particle board issue. Neither of them have surfaced
since posting......

Maybe the particle board OP shoved the barn door down this OP's disposal.

That would probably cause it to seize.

I never considered that, I'm glad you are here to shine light on such
issues.

Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

A cutter blade may have gotten wompus-kitty, broke and/or jammed.

Shine a bright light down the hole :-\

Proctoscope?

--
Tekkie

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 2:56:42 PM UTC-4, Tekkie® wrote:
Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

A cutter blade may have gotten wompus-kitty, broke and/or jammed.

Shine a bright light down the hole :-\

Proctoscope?


OK...umm...err...I mean...Ouch!

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 14:56:42 -0400, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

A cutter blade may have gotten wompus-kitty, broke and/or jammed.

Shine a bright light down the hole :-\

Proctoscope?

"...digital intrusion"

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:16:41 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The wording of the OP is kind of strange. The author says that when she tries
to use it "it is seized up". Not that it seizes up, but that it *is* seized
up. There no mention of how it becomes unseized or if it ever does.

Perhaps it is just jammed and needs to be reversed with the wrench to free up
whatever is causing the "seize".

As usual, more details would help.

A cutter blade may have gotten wompus-kitty, broke and/or jammed.

Shine a bright light down the hole :-\

Tell the OP. My disposal is working just fine. ;-)

I'm busy. It is your turn anyway. I'm on vacation.