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I find water filtering to be awfully complex. I don't want to drink
fluoride or chlorine. For drinking water I'm now drinking Mountain Spring in the clear plastic jugs. I'm happy with this. When I renovate my kitchen I could put in reverse osmosis, but then I'd be taking out the calcium and magnesium. Living alone, bottled water isn't all that expensive. But what about showering? I like to get rid of the chlorine there. Then what else shouldn't be in my shower water? Coming from the mercola.com web site it sends you to http://www.aquamd.com/main/watercheck.cfm where they give you a free water check up. It basically has a database of the water reports that each water system must file. With commentary added by someone, either Mercola or AquaMD. It does not list chlorine or fluoride levels. Not surprising, as the water authorities add it and think they are beneficial. I added the red color for ones out of range. Here's what it has for me: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/WaterTestResults.htm But what gets confusing is just what filters remove what? The water pressure in the fourth floor shower isn't all that strong. Do shower head filters only remove chlorine? The whole house filters presumably remove much more. But do they remove things that I'd like removed? Such as what is red on my report? Thanks, Don donwiss at panix.com |
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Scrap the bottled, a good undersink will do just as good or better .
For a shower, well those are small , and probably have a short life. House hold , are usualy sediment filters, although my small GE says it removes chlorene. R.O. waiste water, and remove important minerals, They are overkill for most. |
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![]() "Don Wiss" wrote I find water filtering to be awfully complex. I don't want to drink fluoride or chlorine. For drinking water I'm now drinking Mountain Spring in the clear plastic jugs. I'm happy with this. When I renovate my kitchen I could put in reverse osmosis, but then I'd be taking out the calcium and magnesium. Living alone, bottled water isn't all that expensive. But what about showering? I like to get rid of the chlorine there. Then what else shouldn't be in my shower water? Coming from the mercola.com web site it sends you to http://www.aquamd.com/main/watercheck.cfm where they give you a free water check up. It basically has a database of the water reports that each water system must file. With commentary added by someone, either Mercola or AquaMD. It does not list chlorine or fluoride levels. Not surprising, as the water authorities add it and think they are beneficial. I added the red color for ones out of range. Here's what it has for me: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/WaterTestResults.htm But what gets confusing is just what filters remove what? The water pressure in the fourth floor shower isn't all that strong. Do shower head filters only remove chlorine? The whole house filters presumably remove much more. But do they remove things that I'd like removed? Such as what is red on my report? Thanks, Don donwiss at panix.com You have some serious problems with that water based on the limited analysis. It isn't all that good in just about all areas shown. The 6 pH should be in red too. Along with all the things a pH that low can do and then add to the water. You need POE treatment rather than just certain things related to the shower and the things mentioned in the drinking part of the subject. The acidity has to be buffered or it will eat copper and leach lead out of lead based solder and brass fixtures/fittings. Pinhole leaks in copper tubing is a huge problem and although acidity isn't not the only cause, it is the primary cause in the majority of cases. Your water is extremely hard and high in TDS so I really question the validity of the pH result. Nitrate is very high although 10 ppm is allowed, it is a carcinogen and causes serious health problems in a fetus and infants while pregnant women should not be using water with that level of nitrate in it. I suggest you get in touch with a water treatment dealer. The proper RO would greatly reduce/remove those parameters that RO and distillation are used for. The rest needs other types of treatment. Gary Quality Water Associates |
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Gary and I often have different opinions. However in this case I have
to totally agree. This sounds like someone who should have a professional help him address the complex issues of water quality. -- Joseph E. Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math "Gary Slusser" wrote in message ... "Don Wiss" wrote I find water filtering to be awfully complex. I don't want to drink fluoride or chlorine. For drinking water I'm now drinking Mountain Spring in the clear plastic jugs. I'm happy with this. When I renovate my kitchen I could put in reverse osmosis, but then I'd be taking out the calcium and magnesium. Living alone, bottled water isn't all that expensive. But what about showering? I like to get rid of the chlorine there. Then what else shouldn't be in my shower water? Coming from the mercola.com web site it sends you to http://www.aquamd.com/main/watercheck.cfm where they give you a free water check up. It basically has a database of the water reports that each water system must file. With commentary added by someone, either Mercola or AquaMD. It does not list chlorine or fluoride levels. Not surprising, as the water authorities add it and think they are beneficial. I added the red color for ones out of range. Here's what it has for me: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/WaterTestResults.htm But what gets confusing is just what filters remove what? The water pressure in the fourth floor shower isn't all that strong. Do shower head filters only remove chlorine? The whole house filters presumably remove much more. But do they remove things that I'd like removed? Such as what is red on my report? Thanks, Don donwiss at panix.com You have some serious problems with that water based on the limited analysis. It isn't all that good in just about all areas shown. The 6 pH should be in red too. Along with all the things a pH that low can do and then add to the water. You need POE treatment rather than just certain things related to the shower and the things mentioned in the drinking part of the subject. The acidity has to be buffered or it will eat copper and leach lead out of lead based solder and brass fixtures/fittings. Pinhole leaks in copper tubing is a huge problem and although acidity isn't not the only cause, it is the primary cause in the majority of cases. Your water is extremely hard and high in TDS so I really question the validity of the pH result. Nitrate is very high although 10 ppm is allowed, it is a carcinogen and causes serious health problems in a fetus and infants while pregnant women should not be using water with that level of nitrate in it. I suggest you get in touch with a water treatment dealer. The proper RO would greatly reduce/remove those parameters that RO and distillation are used for. The rest needs other types of treatment. Gary Quality Water Associates |
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![]() "Joseph Meehan" wrote Gary and I often have different opinions. However in this case I have to totally agree. This sounds like someone who should have a professional help him address the complex issues of water quality. -- Joseph E. Meehan "Gary Slusser" wrote in message ... "Don Wiss" wrote I find water filtering to be awfully complex. I don't want to drink fluoride or chlorine. For drinking water I'm now drinking Mountain Spring in the clear plastic jugs. I'm happy with this. When I renovate my kitchen I could put in reverse osmosis, but then I'd be taking out the calcium and magnesium. Living alone, bottled water isn't all that expensive. But what about showering? I like to get rid of the chlorine there. Then what else shouldn't be in my shower water? Coming from the mercola.com web site it sends you to http://www.aquamd.com/main/watercheck.cfm where they give you a free water check up. It basically has a database of the water reports that each water system must file. With commentary added by someone, either Mercola or AquaMD. It does not list chlorine or fluoride levels. Not surprising, as the water authorities add it and think they are beneficial. I added the red color for ones out of range. Here's what it has for me: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/WaterTestResults.htm But what gets confusing is just what filters remove what? The water pressure in the fourth floor shower isn't all that strong. Do shower head filters only remove chlorine? The whole house filters presumably remove much more. But do they remove things that I'd like removed? Such as what is red on my report? Thanks, Don donwiss at panix.com You have some serious problems with that water based on the limited analysis. It isn't all that good in just about all areas shown. The 6 pH should be in red too. Along with all the things a pH that low can do and then add to the water. You need POE treatment rather than just certain things related to the shower and the things mentioned in the drinking part of the subject. The acidity has to be buffered or it will eat copper and leach lead out of lead based solder and brass fixtures/fittings. Pinhole leaks in copper tubing is a huge problem and although acidity isn't not the only cause, it is the primary cause in the majority of cases. Your water is extremely hard and high in TDS so I really question the validity of the pH result. Nitrate is very high although 10 ppm is allowed, it is a carcinogen and causes serious health problems in a fetus and infants while pregnant women should not be using water with that level of nitrate in it. I suggest you get in touch with a water treatment dealer. The proper RO would greatly reduce/remove those parameters that RO and distillation are used for. The rest needs other types of treatment. Gary Quality Water Associates Well thanks Joe. I've decided to let you slide on your other post above. There's too many points I'd need to deal with to straighten you out but.... this one is right on. I've been doing just what you suggest for 15 years and successfully treat water much worse than his. When it comes to real 'problem water', if it's made, I have it available from the world's largest manufacturers. Gary Quality Water Associates |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:04:03 GMT, "Gary Slusser" wrote:
Don Wiss wrote Here's what it has for me: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/WaterTestResults.htm You need POE treatment rather than just certain things related to the shower and the things mentioned in the drinking part of the subject. I suggest you get in touch with a water treatment dealer. The proper RO would greatly reduce/remove those parameters that RO and distillation are used for. The rest needs other types of treatment. But RO and distillation are not options for POE. And getting in touch with a water treatment dealer isn't going to get me unbiased opinions. They are going to push what they sell. Don donwiss at panix.com. |
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![]() "Don Wiss" wrote "Gary Slusser" wrote: Don Wiss wrote Here's what it has for me: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/WaterTestResults.htm You need POE treatment rather than just certain things related to the shower and the things mentioned in the drinking part of the subject. I suggest you get in touch with a water treatment dealer. The proper RO would greatly reduce/remove those parameters that RO and distillation are used for. The rest needs other types of treatment. But RO and distillation are not options for POE. And getting in touch with a water treatment dealer isn't going to get me unbiased opinions. They are going to push what they sell. Don donwiss at panix.com. You also have biases and they along with your problem water are at odds, but what do you base that opinion on? I'm an independent dealer and like most others, I would first tell you what type of equipment you could use for the jobs your water calls for. Then I'd tell you what I think you should use based on the overall picture of your application and installation needs. Then I'd give you the price of maybe as many as three different ways to treat your water quality problems and have you ask questions and go shop around. You don't know it but the vast majority of those folks that don't 'buy' then, come back and 'buy' from me after talking to usually, national brand name franchisee type dealers' sales force personnel. ![]() Should I tell you that there is RO for POE applications? Certainly you don't think my telling you that when I sell them, changes the accuracy of my statement somehow. But I didn't mean POE RO or distillation, I meant the absolutely needed pretreatment needs for either. If you want a quote, email works. Gary Quality Water Associates |
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