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Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system?
Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. |
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On 22/10/2016 16:45, Bod wrote:
Any ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. |
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On 10/22/2016 8:45 AM, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". |
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Per Bod:
Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Agreed Centigrade is more logical - but, to me, at least, Fahrenheit's greater granularity is appealing. One degree is quite a bit for some activities. 1.8 degrees is a *lot*. -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:57:25 +0100, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 10/22/2016 8:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". I wasn't aware it changed, I hear both words used interchangeably. They mean precisely the same thing. -- Drive defensively. Buy a tank. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:45:34 +0100, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Because they're thick. -- Drive defensively. Buy a tank. |
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On 10/22/2016 9:16 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:57:25 +0100, Taxed and Spent wrote: On 10/22/2016 8:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". I wasn't aware it changed, I hear both words used interchangeably. They mean precisely the same thing. I never hear centigrade, which literally means one hundred degrees. Celsius means "look up what this means". |
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On 10/22/2016 10:57 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
[snip] I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". Probably someone's name. I feel that it indicates a personality defect to name something after yourself or another person rather than using a name that actually means something (such as centigrade). -- 64 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It is more uplifting to find the beauty, wonder, spirituality, and reverence in what we can see, than to imagine they only exist in what we can't see." |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:32:04 +0100, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 10/22/2016 9:16 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:57:25 +0100, Taxed and Spent wrote: On 10/22/2016 8:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". I wasn't aware it changed, I hear both words used interchangeably. They mean precisely the same thing. I never hear centigrade, which literally means one hundred degrees. Celsius means "look up what this means". No harder than remembering what any other word means. -- WEDDING DRESS FOR SALE. Worn once by mistake. Call Stephanie. |
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On 10/22/2016 10:58 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Bod: Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Agreed Centigrade is more logical - but, to me, at least, Fahrenheit's greater granularity is appealing. One degree is quite a bit for some activities. 1.8 degrees is a *lot*. If you had been using C all your life, THAT degree size would be more normal. BTW, there's a different (artificial) 0 point, as well as a different degree size. -- 64 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It is more uplifting to find the beauty, wonder, spirituality, and reverence in what we can see, than to imagine they only exist in what we can't see." |
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On 10/22/2016 10:45 AM, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. For the same reason we have not changed to metric. BTW: When I was in school in the mid 60's they told us we had better learn the metric system or we'll all be left behind. They said the US would be completely converted by 1984. OTOH: I never saw the point as they also told us the world would be out of fuel by 1984 |
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On 22/10/2016 16:57, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 10/22/2016 8:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". The Celsius scale remains a centigrade scale in which there are 100 degrees from the freezing point (0°C) and boiling point (100°C) of water, though the size of the degree has been more precisely defined. |
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On 10/22/2016 10:45 AM, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I think 100F was supposed to be human body temperature. I'm not sure about 0F. Anyway, I'd prefer something based on the world (like centigrade) to something that exaggerates our own importance. Also, metric units are chosen to make calculations easier. -- 64 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It is more uplifting to find the beauty, wonder, spirituality, and reverence in what we can see, than to imagine they only exist in what we can't see." |
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On 2016-10-22, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
greater granularity is appealing. One degree is quite a bit for some activities. 1.8 degrees is a *lot*. Agreed!! I'll take the entire metric system, except fer temperature. I prefer Fahrenheit. nb |
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On 22/10/2016 17:41, philo wrote:
On 10/22/2016 10:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. For the same reason we have not changed to metric. BTW: When I was in school in the mid 60's they told us we had better learn the metric system or we'll all be left behind. They said the US would be completely converted by 1984. OTOH: I never saw the point as they also told us the world would be out of fuel by 1984 Lol. |
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On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Trained as a chemist, I have no problem with metric system and in fact we should be using the Kelvin scale which took Celsius to start at absolute zero. In daily life I am more comfortable with Fahrenheit and old system of English length measurements. The English did screw up the old Roman mile by adding 280 feet to it and very few people know what a furlong is. I know English do use metric today but may still give their body weight in stones. |
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On 22/10/2016 17:45, notbob wrote:
On 2016-10-22, (PeteCresswell) wrote: greater granularity is appealing. One degree is quite a bit for some activities. 1.8 degrees is a *lot*. Agreed!! I'll take the entire metric system, except fer temperature. I prefer Fahrenheit. nb That doesn't sound very logical. The fahrenheit scale is used by about 99% of the world's countries.. |
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On 22/10/2016 17:54, Frank wrote:
On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Trained as a chemist, I have no problem with metric system and in fact we should be using the Kelvin scale which took Celsius to start at absolute zero. In daily life I am more comfortable with Fahrenheit and old system of English length measurements. The English did screw up the old Roman mile by adding 280 feet to it and very few people know what a furlong is. I know English do use metric today but may still give their body weight in stones. Yup, stones and pounds. |
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On 2016-10-22, Bod wrote:
That doesn't sound very logical. The fahrenheit scale is used by about 99% of the world's countries.. It sounds as logical as yer 2nd statement. nb |
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On 22/10/2016 18:01, notbob wrote:
On 2016-10-22, Bod wrote: That doesn't sound very logical. The fahrenheit scale is used by about 99% of the world's countries.. It sounds as logical as yer 2nd statement. nb Whoops! brain fart :-) |
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On 10/22/2016 12:35 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". Probably someone's name. I feel that it indicates a personality defect to name something after yourself or another person rather than using a name that actually means something (such as centigrade). Anders Celsius. Swedish physicist in the 1700s |
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On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Probably the same reason Brits use pounds instead of 10 bases dollars. 12 pence to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound. Worse than our temperature system. Only reason not to change is it is not easy to change old habits. I can work with either so not a big deal. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:41:32 +0100, Bod wrote:
On 22/10/2016 16:57, Taxed and Spent wrote: On 10/22/2016 8:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I was all for it when it was called centigrade, but lost interest when they changed to the no longer self defined "Celsius". The Celsius scale remains a centigrade scale in which there are 100 degrees from the freezing point (0°C) and boiling point (100°C) of water, though the size of the degree has been more precisely defined. If it's more precise, it can't still be 100. -- When I was in the pub I heard a couple of plonkas saying that they wouldn't feel safe on an aircraft if they knew the pilot was a woman. What a pair of sexists. I mean, it's not as if she'd have to reverse the bloody thing! |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:42:12 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 10/22/2016 10:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I think 100F was supposed to be human body temperature. I'm not sure about 0F. Seems to be a bit messier than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Anyway, I'd prefer something based on the world (like centigrade) to something that exaggerates our own importance. It's the name of the guy that invented it presumably, I can't see a problem in that. Also, metric units are chosen to make calculations easier. Celsius IS metric. -- Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:00:36 +0100, Bod wrote:
On 22/10/2016 17:54, Frank wrote: On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Trained as a chemist, I have no problem with metric system and in fact we should be using the Kelvin scale which took Celsius to start at absolute zero. In daily life I am more comfortable with Fahrenheit and old system of English length measurements. The English did screw up the old Roman mile by adding 280 feet to it and very few people know what a furlong is. I know English do use metric today but may still give their body weight in stones. Yup, stones and pounds. Same here, I'm 41. -- A study in Scotland showed that the kind of male face a woman finds attractive can differ depending where a woman is in her menstrual cycle. For instance, if she is ovulating they are attracted to men with rugged, masculine features. If she is menstruating she is more prone to be attracted to a man with scissors shoved in his temple. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:54:26 +0100, Frank "frank wrote:
On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Trained as a chemist, I have no problem with metric system and in fact we should be using the Kelvin scale which took Celsius to start at absolute zero. Daily life does not fit with Kelvin. Why use high numbers all the time. 0 being freezing is very useful, it's the point where ice forms on the roads etc. In daily life I am more comfortable with Fahrenheit and old system of English length measurements. The English did screw up the old Roman mile by adding 280 feet to it and very few people know what a furlong is. I know English do use metric today but may still give their body weight in stones. -- A study in Scotland showed that the kind of male face a woman finds attractive can differ depending where a woman is in her menstrual cycle. For instance, if she is ovulating they are attracted to men with rugged, masculine features. If she is menstruating she is more prone to be attracted to a man with scissors shoved in his temple. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:22:34 +0100, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Probably the same reason Brits use pounds instead of 10 bases dollars. 12 pence to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound. Worse than our temperature system. Only reason not to change is it is not easy to change old habits. I can work with either so not a big deal. We quit with shillings decades ago. -- I got into trouble on my last date. I didn't open the car door for her. I swam to the surface instead .... |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:45:34 +0100, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. If the only thing you are interested in is the state of distilled water at sea level, I agree C is better. I use it in scientific measurements regularly too but there are 50 million Americans who do not want to be confused by two systems and it would take a while to get them all switched over. To start with we would need to buy about a billion new thermometers, then learn what 30c means when we see that is what the pool is at. There is also that issue of how precise F is compared to C without resorting to fractions of a degree, mentioned above. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:42:12 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote: On 10/22/2016 10:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. I think 100F was supposed to be human body temperature. I'm not sure about 0F. I think zero f was when a saturated brine solution freezes. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:42:12 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I think 100F was supposed to be human body temperature. I'm not sure about 0F. No. Some time back they took the temperature of 10,000 people in centigrade. They averaged the temperatures. Then they rounded to the nearest centigrade, or 37C. Then they converted to 98.6F. This implies an accuracy that is not there. Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). |
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On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 12:22:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Probably the same reason Brits use pounds instead of 10 bases dollars. 12 pence to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound. Worse than our temperature system. That's why Alexander Hamilton set up our monetary system to be easily divisible. It's a lot easier to divide numbers by 10 (our system) than the British system of dividing by 3. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:27:22 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote: 0 being freezing is very useful, it's the point where ice forms on the roads etc. It also represents the place I have zero chance of living in. If it gets to 0c, I am moving farther south. |
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On 22/10/2016 18:22, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Probably the same reason Brits use pounds instead of 10 bases dollars. 12 pence to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound. Worse than our temperature system. Only reason not to change is it is not easy to change old habits. I can work with either so not a big deal. Erm, we've used the metric money system since about 1970. As for weight, we use both metric and imperial. I thought it was the US who used pounds for weight measurement only still? |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:38:04 +0100, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:27:22 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: 0 being freezing is very useful, it's the point where ice forms on the roads etc. It also represents the place I have zero chance of living in. If it gets to 0c, I am moving farther south. So at 100C you have 100% chance of living? -- We cannot see the future. We cannot change the past. We can only live in the now, with an eye towards gaining enough power in the future to wreak revenge on everyone who ever screwed us in the past. |
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On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 10:45:39 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. At least we show both American and metric on packages. Andy |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 10:34:29 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
wrote: On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 12:22:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Probably the same reason Brits use pounds instead of 10 bases dollars. 12 pence to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound. Worse than our temperature system. That's why Alexander Hamilton set up our monetary system to be easily divisible. It's a lot easier to divide numbers by 10 (our system) than the British system of dividing by 3. I take it neither of you has been to the UK in a long while. They use a decimal system just like ours and have been doing so for decades. |
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On 10/22/2016 10:55 AM, Pat wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 10:34:29 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 12:22:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 10/22/2016 11:45 AM, Bod wrote: Anu ideas why the USA hasn't changed to the Centigrade system? Only a handful of countries use fahrenheit today. Centigrade makes a much more logical system. Centigrade: 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. Probably the same reason Brits use pounds instead of 10 bases dollars. 12 pence to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound. Worse than our temperature system. That's why Alexander Hamilton set up our monetary system to be easily divisible. It's a lot easier to divide numbers by 10 (our system) than the British system of dividing by 3. I take it neither of you has been to the UK in a long while. They use a decimal system just like ours and have been doing so for decades. Not according to the Basil Rathbone movie I was watching last night. |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:51:16 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:38:04 +0100, wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:27:22 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: 0 being freezing is very useful, it's the point where ice forms on the roads etc. It also represents the place I have zero chance of living in. If it gets to 0c, I am moving farther south. So at 100C you have 100% chance of living? No at 100c your still is pumping out water so you should have stopped 22 degrees ago. |
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On 22 Oct 2016 16:45:43 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2016-10-22, (PeteCresswell) wrote: greater granularity is appealing. One degree is quite a bit for some activities. 1.8 degrees is a *lot*. Agreed!! I'll take the entire metric system, except fer temperature. I prefer Fahrenheit. nb I like it as it is. We dont need to change stuff in the US, just because the rest of the world (or parts of it) do things differently. If we want to change things, lets change things that matter, like stopping wars, helping people out of poverty, preventing severe storm damage, and much much more.... Changing the way we measure temperature is not gonna do anything to make life better, in fact it will just make it more confusing....... |
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