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Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote:
Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in Florida not really close. (other coast) We will still get gusty wind and swats of hard rain with the random chance of a tornado. I am not worried about it. |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote:
Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Left Florida in '89. Lived there all my life and went through a number of hurricanes. My in-laws recently moved near Orlando from New Jersey. They were here to visit a week or so ago (Las Vegas) before their cruise from Vancouver down the Pacific coast. They were scheduled to fly from Los Angeles to Orlando this morning. The flight was canceled so they changed their flight and will visit us again in the morning. The storm is a slow mover with potential of a CAT 4 with sustained winds ~ 145 MPH nearing Orlando along the Eastern coast of Florida. Stores shelves are already empty of food in some places and mass evacuations are taking place. The Governor is on the job. _Gov. Rick Scott: Hurricane Matthew 'will be devastating'_ http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc |
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On 06/10/2016 18:26, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Left Florida in '89. Lived there all my life and went through a number of hurricanes. My in-laws recently moved near Orlando from New Jersey. They were here to visit a week or so ago (Las Vegas) before their cruise from Vancouver down the Pacific coast. They were scheduled to fly from Los Angeles to Orlando this morning. The flight was canceled so they changed their flight and will visit us again in the morning. The storm is a slow mover with potential of a CAT 4 with sustained winds ~ 145 MPH nearing Orlando along the Eastern coast of Florida. Stores shelves are already empty of food in some places and mass evacuations are taking place. The Governor is on the job. _Gov. Rick Scott: Hurricane Matthew 'will be devastating'_ http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc Ok and thanks for a detailed heads up. The storm certainly looks very nasty indeed. |
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On 06/10/2016 18:39, Frank wrote:
On 10/6/2016 1:23 PM, wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in Florida not really close. (other coast) We will still get gusty wind and swats of hard rain with the random chance of a tornado. I am not worried about it. My daughter in law just flew down to Florida and is on her way to Key West,if not already there, with girl friends. My brother and his wife's cruise to the Caribbean to have left Monday from Baltimore was cancelled. Friend in Myrtle Beach is bracing for the deluge expected there. Best of luck to her. |
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Oren pretended :
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Left Florida in '89. Lived there all my life and went through a number of hurricanes. My in-laws recently moved near Orlando from New Jersey. They were here to visit a week or so ago (Las Vegas) before their cruise from Vancouver down the Pacific coast. They were scheduled to fly from Los Angeles to Orlando this morning. The flight was canceled so they changed their flight and will visit us again in the morning. The storm is a slow mover with potential of a CAT 4 with sustained winds ~ 145 MPH nearing Orlando along the Eastern coast of Florida. Stores shelves are already empty of food in some places and mass evacuations are taking place. The Governor is on the job. _Gov. Rick Scott: Hurricane Matthew 'will be devastating'_ http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc I think he's doing a good job in not playing down the danger. I like that he said there will be no rescuing of people who decide to stay and hunker down because it puts the rescuers in danger. People should take the danger seriously, even if it doesn't pan out. |
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:55:26 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc I think he's doing a good job in not playing down the danger. I like that he said there will be no rescuing of people who decide to stay and hunker down because it puts the rescuers in danger. People should take the danger seriously, even if it doesn't pan out. Florida hasn't had a major hurricane like this in about 11 years. Folks get complacent. Many people moving to Florida have never experienced this kind of danger. Better to be safe and hope the storm moves East and not make landfall. |
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On 10/6/16 1:26 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Left Florida in '89. Lived there all my life and went through a number of hurricanes. My in-laws recently moved near Orlando from New Jersey. They were here to visit a week or so ago (Las Vegas) before their cruise from Vancouver down the Pacific coast. They were scheduled to fly from Los Angeles to Orlando this morning. The flight was canceled so they changed their flight and will visit us again in the morning. The storm is a slow mover with potential of a CAT 4 with sustained winds ~ 145 MPH nearing Orlando along the Eastern coast of Florida. Stores shelves are already empty of food in some places and mass evacuations are taking place. The Governor is on the job. _Gov. Rick Scott: Hurricane Matthew 'will be devastating'_ http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc This may get up around upper part of NC and pull a u-turn and head back according to at least some of the models. One brings all the way across Fl around Orlando and then out to the Gulf. This could get REALLY interesting. |
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On 10/6/16 1:39 PM, Frank wrote:
On 10/6/2016 1:23 PM, wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in Florida not really close. (other coast) We will still get gusty wind and swats of hard rain with the random chance of a tornado. I am not worried about it. My daughter in law just flew down to Florida and is on her way to Key West,if not already there, with girl friends. Current forecast calls for just rain at worst in KW. They don't even have tropical storm warnings up further south than Marathon. They aren't closing any the bridges, so she should be okay. Could be interesting trying to get back out, but there are worse places to the stranded than KW. |
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On 10/06/2016 1:10 PM, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:
.... Current forecast calls for just rain at worst in KW. They don't even have tropical storm warnings up further south than Marathon. They aren't closing any the bridges, so she should be okay. Could be interesting trying to get back out, but there are worse places to the stranded than KW. Yeah, as long as nothing changes drastically...altho a major westward swing would be pretty unusual. I think the projected track thru the early weekend _most_ interesting--essentially a U turn and possibly, if one were to project even further out than the last map I saw, back into warm-enough waters to regenerate and come back around for another swipe... That'd be pretty remarkable; don't know if it's ever happened since have recorded observations or not. Meanwhile, I guess we didn't lose CA Tuesday... |
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On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 2:48:09 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 10/06/2016 1:10 PM, Kurt V. Ullman wrote: ... Current forecast calls for just rain at worst in KW. They don't even have tropical storm warnings up further south than Marathon. They aren't closing any the bridges, so she should be okay. Could be interesting trying to get back out, but there are worse places to the stranded than KW. Yeah, as long as nothing changes drastically...altho a major westward swing would be pretty unusual. I think the projected track thru the early weekend _most_ interesting--essentially a U turn and possibly, if one were to project even further out than the last map I saw, back into warm-enough waters to regenerate and come back around for another swipe... That'd be pretty remarkable; don't know if it's ever happened since have recorded observations or not. Meanwhile, I guess we didn't lose CA Tuesday... D*mn! Now I gotta go through with the plans to visit SWMBO family's next month. I was hoping for an event that didn't hurt anybody but still prevented access. ;-) |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 14:07:10 -0400, "Kurt V. Ullman"
wrote: This may get up around upper part of NC and pull a u-turn and head back according to at least some of the models. One brings all the way across Fl around Orlando and then out to the Gulf. This could get REALLY interesting. The Barometric pressure is falling. It gets ugly when that happens. http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159742334001/hurricane-matthew-strengthens-as-pressure-continues-to-drop/?playlist_id=921261890001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/hzq2dpm Partially open a window on the leeward side of the house or it will suck the roof off. Andrew, a CAT 5 , the bm pressure dropped before landfall. |
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It happens that Oren formulated :
On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:55:26 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc I think he's doing a good job in not playing down the danger. I like that he said there will be no rescuing of people who decide to stay and hunker down because it puts the rescuers in danger. People should take the danger seriously, even if it doesn't pan out. Florida hasn't had a major hurricane like this in about 11 years. 12 years ago they had four in a 45 day period. https://weather.com/safety/hurricane...rought-may2016 Folks get complacent. Many people moving to Florida have never experienced this kind of danger. Better to be safe and hope the storm moves East and not make landfall. I agree, it's good practice. |
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On 10/06/2016 2:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 2:48:09 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote: .... Meanwhile, I guess we didn't lose CA Tuesday... D*mn! Now I gotta go through with the plans to visit SWMBO family's next month. I was hoping for an event that didn't hurt anybody but still prevented access. ;-) Who knows still a month to go... Full moon's a "super moon" come about mid-month, besides. |
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On 10/6/2016 2:10 PM, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:
On 10/6/16 1:39 PM, Frank wrote: On 10/6/2016 1:23 PM, wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in Florida not really close. (other coast) We will still get gusty wind and swats of hard rain with the random chance of a tornado. I am not worried about it. My daughter in law just flew down to Florida and is on her way to Key West,if not already there, with girl friends. Current forecast calls for just rain at worst in KW. They don't even have tropical storm warnings up further south than Marathon. They aren't closing any the bridges, so she should be okay. Could be interesting trying to get back out, but there are worse places to the stranded than KW. She's supposed to return Monday. Knew a guy that once got stuck in Hawaii. Some people have all the luck. |
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On 10/6/2016 1:40 PM, Bod wrote:
On 06/10/2016 18:26, Oren wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:34 +0100, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Left Florida in '89. Lived there all my life and went through a number of hurricanes. My in-laws recently moved near Orlando from New Jersey. They were here to visit a week or so ago (Las Vegas) before their cruise from Vancouver down the Pacific coast. They were scheduled to fly from Los Angeles to Orlando this morning. The flight was canceled so they changed their flight and will visit us again in the morning. The storm is a slow mover with potential of a CAT 4 with sustained winds ~ 145 MPH nearing Orlando along the Eastern coast of Florida. Stores shelves are already empty of food in some places and mass evacuations are taking place. The Governor is on the job. _Gov. Rick Scott: Hurricane Matthew 'will be devastating'_ http://video.foxnews.com/v/5159394290001/gov-rick-scott-hurricane-matthew-will-be-devastating/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips https://tinyurl.com/zk784mc Ok and thanks for a detailed heads up. The storm certainly looks very nasty indeed. Friend in Myrtle Beach just posted on Facebook that they had boarded up her grocery store. She showed a photo of her emergency food supply just bought at the store before their closing - an Almond Joy bar. |
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On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 6:06:37 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 10/06/2016 2:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 2:48:09 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote: ... Meanwhile, I guess we didn't lose CA Tuesday... D*mn! Now I gotta go through with the plans to visit SWMBO family's next month. I was hoping for an event that didn't hurt anybody but still prevented access. ;-) Who knows still a month to go... Full moon's a "super moon" come about mid-month, besides. I was looking at air traffic in the FL area on Flightaware. Surprising amount of traffic, eg Orlando has planes coming and going, right now. South of there, traffic is staying over the west side of FL. I saw one crazy ******* heading straight into the eye. Clicked on it and it's a P3-Orion, one of NOAAs hurricane hunters. Shows it's path has been zigzagging back and forth across it. I wouldn't be good for that job. |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:26:09 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: I was looking at air traffic in the FL area on Flightaware. Surprising amount of traffic, eg Orlando has planes coming and going, right now. South of there, traffic is staying over the west side of FL. I saw one crazy ******* heading straight into the eye. Clicked on it and it's a P3-Orion, one of NOAAs hurricane hunters. Shows it's path has been zigzagging back and forth across it. I wouldn't be good for that job. In the case of storms like this military fly jets to other states. Some as far as MO or as near as AL. Commercial airlines do the same. When the wind gets to high they get out. Winds to high they can't take off safely. Hurricane trackers fly high and well above the storm. It is safe to do it. They can fly into the eye of the storm like it is clear day. They drop test devices to determine storm conditions. |
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On 10/6/2016 7:26 PM, trader_4 wrote:
I was looking at air traffic in the FL area on Flightaware. Surprising amount of traffic, eg Orlando has planes coming and going, right now. South of there, traffic is staying over the west side of FL. I saw one crazy ******* heading straight into the eye. Clicked on it and it's a P3-Orion, one of NOAAs hurricane hunters. Shows it's path has been zigzagging back and forth across it. I wouldn't be good for that job. Jet aircraft are built to take a 600 MPH wind head on. |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 14:10:14 -0400, "Kurt V. Ullman"
wrote: My daughter in law just flew down to Florida and is on her way to Key West,if not already there, with girl friends. Current forecast calls for just rain at worst in KW. They don't even have tropical storm warnings up further south than Marathon. They aren't closing any the bridges, so she should be okay. Could be interesting trying to get back out, but there are worse places to the stranded than KW. Hurricane parties were started down yonder. "Hurricane parties were formed by people living in the southern hurricane areas of the United States, especially in Florida. Events are held by people who, cannot or choose not to evacuate during a hurricane warning,..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_party#Background |
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On 10/06/2016 7:00 PM, Oren wrote:
.... Hurricane trackers fly high and well above the storm. It is safe to do it. They can fly into the eye of the storm like it is clear day. They drop test devices to determine storm conditions. That's the NOAA boys flying the Orions. Meanwhile, the USAF Reserve 53d Weather Reconnaissance Squadron based at Keesler Air Force Base in Biloxi, MS, fly Lockheed WC-130J aircraft directly into the hurricane. Typically a mission will penetrate the hurricane's eye several times per mission at altitudes between 500 and 10,000 feet. |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:16:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 10/6/16 5:30 AM, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in the middle of the U.S. It affects us a bit even here. Power line crews from Lincoln, NE are headed that way to help after the storm passes. It's about 1400 miles to Orlando, FL. I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) Of course. A 72 year old Walmart Greeter is already posted at the store's door, waiting to Greet the hurricane Matthew. WELCOME TO WALMART! |
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On 10/6/2016 8:00 PM, Oren wrote:
Hurricane trackers fly high and well above the storm. It is safe to do it. They can fly into the eye of the storm like it is clear day. They drop test devices to determine storm conditions. This is all BS. I remember reading back about 1958 that we'd be able to control the weather by 2000. Hurricanes would be blown apart. What happened? Damned congress. |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/6/2016 8:00 PM, Oren wrote: Hurricane trackers fly high and well above the storm. It is safe to do it. They can fly into the eye of the storm like it is clear day. They drop test devices to determine storm conditions. This is all BS. I remember reading back about 1958 that we'd be able to control the weather by 2000. Hurricanes would be blown apart. What happened? Damned congress. Well, Ed you are kind of old. I heard the explosive solution when I much younger than you. Planes do and can fly into the eye of storms. |
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On 10/6/16 5:30 AM, Bod wrote:
Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in the middle of the U.S. It affects us a bit even here. Power line crews from Lincoln, NE are headed that way to help after the storm passes. It's about 1400 miles to Orlando, FL. I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:16:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 10/6/16 5:30 AM, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in the middle of the U.S. It affects us a bit even here. Power line crews from Lincoln, NE are headed that way to help after the storm passes. It's about 1400 miles to Orlando, FL. I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) My guess is the utility trucks are sent via train rail? Crews fly in? |
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On 10/6/16 9:27 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:16:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 10/6/16 5:30 AM, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? I'm in the middle of the U.S. It affects us a bit even here. Power line crews from Lincoln, NE are headed that way to help after the storm passes. It's about 1400 miles to Orlando, FL. I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) My guess is the utility trucks are sent via train rail? Crews fly in? I don't know. The news reports say they will get there Saturday. Thirteen guys with seven trucks are headed to Vero Beach. |
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On 10/6/2016 1:47 PM, dpb wrote:
On 10/06/2016 1:10 PM, Kurt V. Ullman wrote: ... Current forecast calls for just rain at worst in KW. They don't even have tropical storm warnings up further south than Marathon. They aren't closing any the bridges, so she should be okay. Could be interesting trying to get back out, but there are worse places to the stranded than KW. Yeah, as long as nothing changes drastically...altho a major westward swing would be pretty unusual. I think the projected track thru the early weekend _most_ interesting--essentially a U turn and possibly, if one were to project even further out than the last map I saw, back into warm-enough waters to regenerate and come back around for another swipe... That'd be pretty remarkable; don't know if it's ever happened since have recorded observations or not. Meanwhile, I guess we didn't lose CA Tuesday... Plus, there is a second hurricane east of this one and if Matthew does a U-turn it'll run smack dab into that second hurricane. -- Maggie |
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On 10/06/2016 9:27 PM, Oren wrote:
.... My guess is the utility trucks are sent via train rail? Crews fly in? Strongly doubt it; they'll just drive on down... |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:39:56 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
My daughter in law just flew down to Florida and is on her way to Key West,if not already there, with girl friends. If she made it to Key West she is fine. |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:16:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) They usually are. Walmart has lots of stuff, really close, in hardened warehouses. They also keep their stuff moving so things can stay fresh. |
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 19:27:53 -0700, Oren wrote:
My guess is the utility trucks are sent via train rail? Crews fly in? Nope, you see big convoys of trucks on the road when these things happen. My neighbor is an FPL lineman and he goes all over the gulf coast and up into the carolinas when things like this happen. |
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On 10/7/16 12:01 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:16:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote: I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) They usually are. Walmart has lots of stuff, really close, in hardened warehouses. They also keep their stuff moving so things can stay fresh. I just ran across a Yahoo Finance article about Home Depot and Lowes special set ups for disasters. http://alturl.com/fmnd9 The stores have standby generator power so they can reopen quickly. |
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On 10/7/2016 7:12 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/7/16 12:01 AM, wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:16:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote: I wonder if Walmart will be better prepared for the storm than FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (silly question) They usually are. Walmart has lots of stuff, really close, in hardened warehouses. They also keep their stuff moving so things can stay fresh. I just ran across a Yahoo Finance article about Home Depot and Lowes special set ups for disasters. http://alturl.com/fmnd9 The stores have standby generator power so they can reopen quickly. Guy I know said he bought a generator at about 1/3 price as a return after a severe storm. |
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On 10/6/2016 6:30 AM, Bod wrote:
Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Yah, but it's not as bad as the media's drama queens would have you believe. Most of the wind is coming from the loud mouth reporters. Sheeesh! |
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On 07/10/2016 13:14, Drama Queen wrote:
On 10/6/2016 6:30 AM, Bod wrote: Any of you living in the US in or near the Florida area or in the path of this nasty storm? Yah, but it's not as bad as the media's drama queens would have you believe. Most of the wind is coming from the loud mouth reporters. Sheeesh! Ok. |
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