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anyone recommend a good power invertor?
just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me |
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On 4/13/2016 9:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote:
anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. Not sure about the inverters. I have little experience with those. As to the scissors jack, you may need to use an impact driver, as scissor jack needs a lot of torque. I wonder if 12 volt DC jacks are made? I've not seen one. Guess I'm full of non-answers today? Or maybe not? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 4/13/2016 6:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote:
anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. It would help if you knew the sort of load involved. Motors tend to be poorly behaved loads. |
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On 4/13/2016 9:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote:
anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. I bid on two inverters on Ebay. Some how, I had two winning bids. Both 750 watt. One Husky, and one Vector. They looked identical, except for the brand. This was my old furnace, which got replaced in 2004. The plan was to use a marine battery to power the furnace for an hour or so, if the power was out. Find out that the inverter didn't have enough power to run the blower fan on the furnace. Makes me wonder what size of inverter and drill would run a scissor jack? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 4/13/2016 9:52 AM, Don Y wrote:
On 4/13/2016 6:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. It would help if you knew the sort of load involved. Motors tend to be poorly behaved loads. Watt? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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"dilbert firestorm" wrote in message ... anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. YOu may just want to look for a 12 volt impact driver. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 9:46:23 AM UTC-4, dilbert firestorm wrote:
anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. These guys do cars (not trucks) with cordless drills. Seems like no trouble at all for the drill. Not sure how big your truck is... http://lifehacker.com/5766205/lift-y...r-with-a-drill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSsGaHXTlA If you really want to use a corded drill you would need to know how much power the drill will draw and then match the inverter to that. You'll also need to know how you are going to attach the invert to the truck. Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. I'm not recommending HF inverters, but this page shows what I mean. Anything above 80 watts continuous either comes with clip leads or no leads at all, meaning that you have to come up with your own connection scheme. http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...inverters.html I just bought this one, but it is only used to power the Fast Charger for my smartphone, which requires AC. (USB only charges at the slow rate) http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...ter-66944.html |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote:
anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me http://tinyurl.com/j6b9kl7 |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:59:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 4/13/2016 9:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. I bid on two inverters on Ebay. Some how, I had two winning bids. Both 750 watt. One Husky, and one Vector. They looked identical, except for the brand. This was my old furnace, which got replaced in 2004. The plan was to use a marine battery to power the furnace for an hour or so, if the power was out. Find out that the inverter didn't have enough power to run the blower fan on the furnace. Makes me wonder what size of inverter and drill would run a scissor jack? I bought some tiny inverter because it was cheap, and took it out to the edge of the woods to run an electric drill. How much could a small drill use, I thought. The inverter was nowhere near big enough. I was going to drill a hole in the pine-cone shaped post cap of a chain link fence. When the drill didnt' work, I touched it and realized it would come right off with no effort. So I took it home and drilled the hole. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. |
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On 4/13/2016 11:35 AM, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:59:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon if the power was out. Find out that the inverter didn't have enough power to run the blower fan on the furnace. Makes me wonder what size of inverter and drill would run a scissor jack? I bought some tiny inverter because it was cheap, and took it out to the edge of the woods to run an electric drill. How much could a small drill use, I thought. The inverter was nowhere near big enough. I was going to drill a hole in the pine-cone shaped post cap of a chain link fence. When the drill didnt' work, I touched it and realized it would come right off with no effort. So I took it home and drilled the hole. Since that time, I think I've found out that the 12 volt DC wires they supply are under sized. One other friend had similar problem, using under size DC wires. I wonder if you had under sized DC wires? If you have VOM and a clamp on ammeter for AC, perhaps you can do some tests, and we can all learn. I'd do a test on my new furnace, but don't want to risk frying a circuit board on modified sine power. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle. I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. |
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On 4/13/2016 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle.[And if they make a zillion units of the vehicle, the gross exense to the company is sizable.] I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. Posted inline, as your comment also was. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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"dilbert firestorm" wrote in message
... anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me I believe that scissors jack operate on screw from the side, as some one said inverter size depend on your load. However guessing drill size what you need is low speed ½ industrial type, impact drill is no no otherwise not only that it will not work right but it might damage the screw on the Jack. Inverter should be 750-1000 watts Continues operation not intermittent, but everybody have their own opinion. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 12:04:44 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/13/2016 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle.[And if they make a zillion units of the vehicle, the gross exense to the company is sizable.] I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. Posted inline, as your comment also was. Are you bragging that you've finally *come close* to posting correcting? I say *come close* because I did not post my response the middle of a paragraph like you did. I posted in the appropriate section, on a line by itself. You'll figure it out, eventually. Feel free to brag when you do. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:59:22 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 12:04:44 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 4/13/2016 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle.[And if they make a zillion units of the vehicle, the gross exense to the company is sizable.] I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. Posted inline, as your comment also was. Are you bragging that you've finally *come close* to posting correcting? I say *come close* because I did not post my response the middle of a paragraph like you did. I posted in the appropriate section, on a line by itself. You'll figure it out, eventually. Feel free to brag when you do. You are talking *at* someone that top-posted, literally, for years! |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote:
anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ....in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:34:27 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:59:22 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 12:04:44 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 4/13/2016 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle.[And if they make a zillion units of the vehicle, the gross exense to the company is sizable.] I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. Posted inline, as your comment also was. Are you bragging that you've finally *come close* to posting correcting? I say *come close* because I did not post my response the middle of a paragraph like you did. I posted in the appropriate section, on a line by itself. You'll figure it out, eventually. Feel free to brag when you do. You are talking *at* someone that top-posted, literally, for years! Oh, I know... I guess he just has to toot his own horn as he slowly but surely makes the move towards what is normal for most of us. It's kind of like the toddler that is proud of the poop he managed to get into the toilet. "Mommy! Mommy! Look what I did!" |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:59:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 4/13/2016 9:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. I bid on two inverters on Ebay. Some how, I had two winning bids. Both 750 watt. One Husky, and one Vector. They looked identical, except for the brand. This was my old furnace, which got replaced in 2004. The plan was to use a marine battery to power the furnace for an hour or so, if the power was out. Find out that the inverter didn't have enough power to run the blower fan on the furnace. Makes me wonder what size of inverter and drill would run a scissor jack? Easy enoiugh to figure out. What is the peak power draw on a half inch low speed drill? My Makita is rated at 6.3 amps - so 750 watts. Being a universal brush type motor it MIGHT draw1500 watts starting into a load. I'd say a 2500 watt inverter would work just fine. Might get away with a 1750 About the same as would be required to run a coleman furnace in a trailer. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:40:12 -0400, Micky
wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. A lot of the "heavy" wires years ago just had thicker insulation. The newer insulation is thinner for the same effectiveness. Everything today is built as lightly as possible - with the American manufacturers being every bit as "guilty" as the Japanese. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:00:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. And what's wrong with a real basement? (it's an extension cord to a shop light numbnuts!) |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:04:39 -0400, Stormin Moron
wrote: Posted inline, as your comment also was. Posted inline?? You didn't post ANYTHING of an value - inline or not And you didn't trim anything either. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:00:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. And what's wrong with a real basement? There's nothing wrong with a real basement. Why do you ask? (it's an extension cord to a shop light numbnuts!) So are you saying that it is *not* a piece of Romex? That is what I asked. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:37:46 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:00:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. And what's wrong with a real basement? There's nothing wrong with a real basement. Why do you ask? (it's an extension cord to a shop light numbnuts!) So are you saying that it is *not* a piece of Romex? That is what I asked. IT IS NOT A PIECE OF ROMEX OR ANYTHING SIMILAR! How's that, plain enough? |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:37:46 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:00:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. And what's wrong with a real basement? There's nothing wrong with a real basement. Why do you ask? (it's an extension cord to a shop light numbnuts!) So are you saying that it is *not* a piece of Romex? That is what I asked. IT IS NOT A PIECE OF ROMEX OR ANYTHING SIMILAR! How's that, plain enough? Why are you yelling? Why did you ask me "what's wrong with real basement?" Why do you have trouble answering simple, direct questions? |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 4:43:29 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:37:46 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:00:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. And what's wrong with a real basement? There's nothing wrong with a real basement. Why do you ask? (it's an extension cord to a shop light numbnuts!) So are you saying that it is *not* a piece of Romex? That is what I asked. IT IS NOT A PIECE OF ROMEX OR ANYTHING SIMILAR! How's that, plain enough? Why are you yelling? Why did you ask me "what's wrong with real basement?" Why do you have trouble answering simple, direct questions? When things are apparent I see no need in explaining the obvious...if you don't get-it, too ****ing bad. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:41:23 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 4/13/2016 11:35 AM, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:59:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon if the power was out. Find out that the inverter didn't have enough power to run the blower fan on the furnace. Makes me wonder what size of inverter and drill would run a scissor jack? I bought some tiny inverter because it was cheap, and took it out to the edge of the woods to run an electric drill. How much could a small drill use, I thought. The inverter was nowhere near big enough. I was going to drill a hole in the pine-cone shaped post cap of a chain link fence. When the drill didnt' work, I touched it and realized it would come right off with no effort. So I took it home and drilled the hole. Since that time, I think I've found out that the 12 volt DC wires they supply are under sized. One other friend had similar problem, using under size DC wires. I wonder if you had under sized DC wires? Well the rating on the converter was far less than that simple drill required. I had underestimated what the drill needed. If you have VOM and a clamp on ammeter for AC, perhaps you can do some tests, and we can all learn. I'd do a test on my new furnace, but don't want to risk frying a circuit board on modified sine power. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? I do. Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle. I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. If you're going to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs. And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. |
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On 4/13/2016 6:11 PM, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:41:23 -0400, Stormin Mormon Since that time, I think I've found out that the 12 volt DC wires they supply are under sized. One other friend had similar problem, using under size DC wires. I wonder if you had under sized DC wires? Well the rating on the converter was far less than that simple drill required. I had underestimated what the drill needed. Motors can be rough on invertes. Big start up current. What was the rating of the inverter, and of the drill? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 6:13:28 PM UTC-4, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Most accessory plugs these days can't able handle the loads they used to. That stinks. They can't spend a tiny bit of money on a thicker wire? To what end? How many people actually need more power than the modern accessory sockets provide? I do. ....and that's why they sell inverters and the cables required to hook them to the battery: for those that need extra power. (BTW I have a 1000 watt inverter and the cables required to hook it to the battery. However, I don't think that everyone should pay extra for a heavy duty accessory port just because some of us need more power.) Oh, BTW, do you think that they would just give away that "tiny bit of money"? No, they would raise the price of the vehicle. I don't need to pay more for my vehicles just because you plan on (stinking up your's by) taking up cigars. If you're going to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs. ....and how does that apply to this situation? And I was going to take up cigars. My 2000 Toyota has pretty much nothing but thin wires, while the 95 Chrysler and everything before it had much heavier wires everywhere. Have American cars degenerated too? Or is it just Toyota and maybe Japanese? It seems like most inverter manufacturers have taken this into account and no longer offer "accessory plugs" on anything other than their smallest models. Anything of decent size has to be connected directly to the battery or to wires from the battery that are of substantial gauge. |
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 6:07:26 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 4:43:29 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:37:46 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:00:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-5, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. -- Dilbert Firestorm remove *byteme* to email me ...in my opinion...this is the way to go: http://vid1181.photobucket.com/album...psqyqyjzkn.mp4 Is that a piece of Romex hanging from the ceiling? I wonder if it's live. I'll bet it is. And what's wrong with a real basement? There's nothing wrong with a real basement. Why do you ask? (it's an extension cord to a shop light numbnuts!) So are you saying that it is *not* a piece of Romex? That is what I asked. IT IS NOT A PIECE OF ROMEX OR ANYTHING SIMILAR! How's that, plain enough? Why are you yelling? Why did you ask me "what's wrong with real basement?" Why do you have trouble answering simple, direct questions? When things are apparent I see no need in explaining the obvious...if you don't get-it, too ****ing bad. At least you've stopped yelling. You're not being nice, but at least you've stopped yelling. Good for you. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:46:13 -0500, dilbert firestorm
wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. A former co worker got tired of buying batteries for his 12 volt drill years ago. He just rigged up a cord for it with clamps for the battery. Maybe that would be an option since retailers are selling drills and such without batteries. -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:07:47 -0400, BQ340
wrote: On 4/13/2016 9:46 AM, dilbert firestorm wrote: anyone recommend a good power invertor? just looking for something to power a corded power drill from a truck to use as a sort of a power jack on the scissors jack. Down & dirty is to use an old computer UPS. Rip out the batteries & extend the wires that went to the batteries to big clips (from an old batt charger if you have) & you are good to go. MikeB It still needs to be able to supply the needed power - which means bigger than 1KVA - and there are VERY few 1kva or larger UPS units that run on 12 volts. Most are 36 or 48 volts. |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
stuff snipped It's kind of like the toddler that is proud of the poop he managed to get into the toilet. "Mommy! Mommy! Look what I did!" "That's nice honey, but that's the bathtub, not the pottie!" He'll get there, eventually . . . -- Bobby G. |
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stuff snipped Everything today is built as lightly as possible - with the American manufacturers being every bit as "guilty" as the Japanese. Got some alleged 12ga speaker wire from Ebay. It was the right diameter OUTSIDE for 12ga wire, but inside was perhaps 18ga wire. The thick jacket was just for show . . . -- Bobby G. |
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stuff snipped I was going to drill a hole in the pine-cone shaped post cap of a chain link fence. When the drill didnt' work, I touched it and realized it would come right off with no effort. So I took it home and drilled the hole. There's always more than one way to pare a possum! -- Bobby G. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:35:27 -0400, Micky
wrote: I bought some tiny inverter because it was cheap, and took it out to the edge of the woods to run an electric drill. How much could a small drill use, I thought. The inverter was nowhere near big enough. I was going to drill a hole in the pine-cone shaped post cap of a chain link fence. When the drill didnt' work, I touched it and realized it would come right off with no effort. So I took it home and drilled the hole. Same thing happened to me years ago. I have a small inverter that runs my laptop computer just fine. But I wanted to drill a hole in my mailbox, to replace the cheap plastic flag with a sturdy metal one I saved from another mailbox that was junk. The drill just kicked the inverters reset. At the time I did not have a cordless drill, but that would have worked fine. I just removed the mailbox from the post and took it to the garage to install the flag. More work that way, but it did the job. Motors have high starting current. Maybe the drill says 6 amps, but it may need double that amount to start. Drills are not as bad as big motors though. Motors with a start-capacitor need less amps to start, but all of them still have a high draw when they start. Thats why your house lights may flicker when a well pump, air compressor or other large motor kicks on. Read the amps on your drill, get an inverter that is double that amount, and add a little more. Example, if the drill needs 6A, get a 15A inverter. |
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