I was unable to slide a piece of 1/2" PEX onto an elbow. I've found the
reason. Virtually all fittings that seal against the inside of PEX are
designed for SDR-9, the industry standard. The walls of my SharkBite
pipe are .02" too thick. The ID is .04" too small. It's SDR-7.

A purchaser should know if he is being sold pipe that is not standard.
The SharkBite site doesn't mention any SDR standard for their pipe. The
only dimensions are nominal. How would the purchaser know it wasn't
standard?

A Home Depot search for 1/2 PEX pipe brings up 47 items. The first three
are SharkBite pipe for potable water. The store lists the nominal
dimensions to three decimal places as if they were actual. Even if they
were, they would be outside the industry standard. The only other choice
for potable water comes at the end. That manufacturer provides
dimensions proving it's SDR-9.

SharkBite may have set their wholesale price to take most of the market
at Home Depot. The unsuspecting consumer discovers that only
premium-priced SharkBite fittings will work. Lowes, where professionals
shop, doesn't sell SharkBite pipe. If plumbers find that they must
resort to heating to get SharkBite pipe onto fittings, they'll complain.

**********

I've lurked and posted here for 18 years. It has been a gold mine of
information. In the days of Deja, I could often find what I needed
without bothering anybody. In time, I tend to get enthused and post
more. Several times when I thought I was posting too much, I've broken
the habit by taking a break and returning under a new name as a newbie.

In the last year or so, my name kept turning up among the top posters.
That's embarrassing, so I've taken a lot of breaks. When I wanted advice
about the fitting that didn't fit, I was on a break. I came back as a
newbie so I wouldn't be tempted to post in other threads.

I asked about using heat. I also asked if another brand of fitting
would work better. Within minutes, Big O jumped in, telling me to learn
to install PEX. Why would he presume I hadn't researched it on the web
and followed the specific instructions of the manufacturer? When other
newbies have posted questions about home repair, I've seen Big O respond
equally quickly to stonewall them, too.

I guess everybody took their cue from Big O. Nobody responded to me
about their experience with PEX. Philo responded to Big O, saying the
clerk was an idiot and the fitting was defective. They congratulated
each other on having each installed two PEX fittings in their lives. I'd
asked if other brands worked better, but neither responded to me.

I compared their behavior to that of drunks, but that was unfair to
drunks. They behaved like Sodomites, who wanted to lynch a couple of
men because they were newbies. In response, Ed was kind enough to say he
didn't know the answer to my questions.

Big O had told Philo I needed to do research. I posted what I found in
response to Ed's post.

Philo responded to me for the first time, saying, "Basically you can
here to ask a question and are simply waiting for the answer you are
looking but not the right one."

The only answer I'd been given had come from Big O, amounting to "Shut
up and go away." That answer wouldn't solve the problem, and I wasn't
simply waiting.

When I responded to Philo, Big O responded, calling me a troll. Really?

1. A troll lies in wait for visitors to a group. That's Big O.

2. A troll loads a group with off-topic threads. Perhaps Big O insults
visitors because he doesn't want home repair to take attention from his
topics.

3. A troll butts in to argue. I had not responded to Big O's initial
post. When I responded to Ed with a link explaining Flair-It fittings,
Big O butted in to denigrate the company and call them polybutylene
fittings.

Philo had said he'd killfiled me, so my response was not arguing with
him. Big O butted in to continue to argue.

4. A troll persists in disproved allegations. When Big O had said they
were polybutylene fittings, I reminded him that the link had repeatedly
called them PEX fittings. I pointed out that they had not come out
until polybutylene had been off the market ten years. Now he'd come
back, butting in to say the hardware store owner and I were dense for
calling them PEX fittings.

5. A troll vastly exaggerates his qualifications. Big O says that
besides installing two fittings in his bathroom, he has been a sidewalk
superintendent, and this gives him more authority than a man who has
been selling hardware and maintaining rental housing for fifty years.

6. A troll slings epithets like idiot, moron and fool. With one
exception, this group is pretty good about avoiding that. Now he has a
disciple.

There have always been meaningful posts here, but these days I've had to
look harder. When I find a nugget, trying to find it a few days later
can be frustrating because of the huge volume of banality these days.

Questions from visitors have always been the lifeblood of this group,
eliciting interesting and informative responses from regulars who might
otherwise descend into banality. Now, when a baffled newbie asks about
the experiences of others with his brand or other brands of fittings,
nobody has anything to tell him.

There was a time when I believe someone in this group would have told me
that a brand of PEX commonly sold for DIY won't fit because it doesn't
comply with the industry standard. It looks as if readers with that
level of knowledge have been driven out of Sodom. Me too.

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:41:15 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
I was unable to slide a piece of 1/2" PEX onto an elbow. I've found the
reason. Virtually all fittings that seal against the inside of PEX are
designed for SDR-9, the industry standard. The walls of my SharkBite
pipe are .02" too thick. The ID is .04" too small. It's SDR-7.

A purchaser should know if he is being sold pipe that is not standard.
The SharkBite site doesn't mention any SDR standard for their pipe. The
only dimensions are nominal. How would the purchaser know it wasn't
standard?

A Home Depot search for 1/2 PEX pipe brings up 47 items. The first three
are SharkBite pipe for potable water. The store lists the nominal
dimensions to three decimal places as if they were actual. Even if they
were, they would be outside the industry standard. The only other choice
for potable water comes at the end. That manufacturer provides
dimensions proving it's SDR-9.

SharkBite may have set their wholesale price to take most of the market
at Home Depot. The unsuspecting consumer discovers that only
premium-priced SharkBite fittings will work. Lowes, where professionals
shop, doesn't sell SharkBite pipe. If plumbers find that they must
resort to heating to get SharkBite pipe onto fittings, they'll complain.

**********

I've lurked and posted here for 18 years. It has been a gold mine of
information. In the days of Deja, I could often find what I needed
without bothering anybody. In time, I tend to get enthused and post
more. Several times when I thought I was posting too much, I've broken
the habit by taking a break and returning under a new name as a newbie.

In the last year or so, my name kept turning up among the top posters.
That's embarrassing, so I've taken a lot of breaks. When I wanted advice
about the fitting that didn't fit, I was on a break. I came back as a
newbie so I wouldn't be tempted to post in other threads.

I asked about using heat. I also asked if another brand of fitting
would work better. Within minutes, Big O jumped in, telling me to learn
to install PEX. Why would he presume I hadn't researched it on the web
and followed the specific instructions of the manufacturer? When other
newbies have posted questions about home repair, I've seen Big O respond
equally quickly to stonewall them, too.

I guess everybody took their cue from Big O. Nobody responded to me
about their experience with PEX. Philo responded to Big O, saying the
clerk was an idiot and the fitting was defective. They congratulated
each other on having each installed two PEX fittings in their lives. I'd
asked if other brands worked better, but neither responded to me.

I compared their behavior to that of drunks, but that was unfair to
drunks. They behaved like Sodomites, who wanted to lynch a couple of
men because they were newbies. In response, Ed was kind enough to say he
didn't know the answer to my questions.

Big O had told Philo I needed to do research. I posted what I found in
response to Ed's post.

Philo responded to me for the first time, saying, "Basically you can
here to ask a question and are simply waiting for the answer you are
looking but not the right one."

The only answer I'd been given had come from Big O, amounting to "Shut
up and go away." That answer wouldn't solve the problem, and I wasn't
simply waiting.

When I responded to Philo, Big O responded, calling me a troll. Really?

1. A troll lies in wait for visitors to a group. That's Big O.

2. A troll loads a group with off-topic threads. Perhaps Big O insults
visitors because he doesn't want home repair to take attention from his
topics.

3. A troll butts in to argue. I had not responded to Big O's initial
post. When I responded to Ed with a link explaining Flair-It fittings,
Big O butted in to denigrate the company and call them polybutylene
fittings.

Philo had said he'd killfiled me, so my response was not arguing with
him. Big O butted in to continue to argue.

4. A troll persists in disproved allegations. When Big O had said they
were polybutylene fittings, I reminded him that the link had repeatedly
called them PEX fittings. I pointed out that they had not come out
until polybutylene had been off the market ten years. Now he'd come
back, butting in to say the hardware store owner and I were dense for
calling them PEX fittings.

5. A troll vastly exaggerates his qualifications. Big O says that
besides installing two fittings in his bathroom, he has been a sidewalk
superintendent, and this gives him more authority than a man who has
been selling hardware and maintaining rental housing for fifty years.

6. A troll slings epithets like idiot, moron and fool. With one
exception, this group is pretty good about avoiding that. Now he has a
disciple.

There have always been meaningful posts here, but these days I've had to
look harder. When I find a nugget, trying to find it a few days later
can be frustrating because of the huge volume of banality these days.

Questions from visitors have always been the lifeblood of this group,
eliciting interesting and informative responses from regulars who might
otherwise descend into banality. Now, when a baffled newbie asks about
the experiences of others with his brand or other brands of fittings,
nobody has anything to tell him.

There was a time when I believe someone in this group would have told me
that a brand of PEX commonly sold for DIY won't fit because it doesn't
comply with the industry standard. It looks as if readers with that
level of knowledge have been driven out of Sodom. Me too.

Sorry for the disrespect here...it *is* worse elsewhere. I remember deja also. Philo has been decent as far as I can remember...Big O and 4-skin are the worst here (besides the resident idiot troll).

My experience with Shark-Bites...I had to replace 2 on a commercial whirlpool tube used in a nursing home...they both leaked.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:41:07 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

I was unable to slide a piece of 1/2" PEX onto an elbow. I've found the
reason. Virtually all fittings that seal against the inside of PEX are
designed for SDR-9, the industry standard. The walls of my SharkBite
pipe are .02" too thick. The ID is .04" too small. It's SDR-7.

A purchaser should know if he is being sold pipe that is not standard.
The SharkBite site doesn't mention any SDR standard for their pipe. The
only dimensions are nominal. How would the purchaser know it wasn't
standard?

A Home Depot search for 1/2 PEX pipe brings up 47 items. The first three
are SharkBite pipe for potable water. The store lists the nominal
dimensions to three decimal places as if they were actual. Even if they
were, they would be outside the industry standard. The only other choice
for potable water comes at the end. That manufacturer provides
dimensions proving it's SDR-9.

SharkBite may have set their wholesale price to take most of the market
at Home Depot. The unsuspecting consumer discovers that only
premium-priced SharkBite fittings will work. Lowes, where professionals
shop, doesn't sell SharkBite pipe. If plumbers find that they must
resort to heating to get SharkBite pipe onto fittings, they'll complain.

**********

I've lurked and posted here for 18 years. It has been a gold mine of
information. In the days of Deja, I could often find what I needed
without bothering anybody. In time, I tend to get enthused and post
more. Several times when I thought I was posting too much, I've broken
the habit by taking a break and returning under a new name as a newbie.

In the last year or so, my name kept turning up among the top posters.
That's embarrassing, so I've taken a lot of breaks. When I wanted advice
about the fitting that didn't fit, I was on a break. I came back as a
newbie so I wouldn't be tempted to post in other threads.

I asked about using heat. I also asked if another brand of fitting
would work better. Within minutes, Big O jumped in, telling me to learn
to install PEX. Why would he presume I hadn't researched it on the web
and followed the specific instructions of the manufacturer? When other
newbies have posted questions about home repair, I've seen Big O respond
equally quickly to stonewall them, too.

I guess everybody took their cue from Big O. Nobody responded to me
about their experience with PEX. Philo responded to Big O, saying the
clerk was an idiot and the fitting was defective. They congratulated
each other on having each installed two PEX fittings in their lives. I'd
asked if other brands worked better, but neither responded to me.

I compared their behavior to that of drunks, but that was unfair to
drunks. They behaved like Sodomites, who wanted to lynch a couple of
men because they were newbies. In response, Ed was kind enough to say he
didn't know the answer to my questions.

Big O had told Philo I needed to do research. I posted what I found in
response to Ed's post.

Philo responded to me for the first time, saying, "Basically you can
here to ask a question and are simply waiting for the answer you are
looking but not the right one."

The only answer I'd been given had come from Big O, amounting to "Shut
up and go away." That answer wouldn't solve the problem, and I wasn't
simply waiting.

When I responded to Philo, Big O responded, calling me a troll. Really?

1. A troll lies in wait for visitors to a group. That's Big O.

2. A troll loads a group with off-topic threads. Perhaps Big O insults
visitors because he doesn't want home repair to take attention from his
topics.

3. A troll butts in to argue. I had not responded to Big O's initial
post. When I responded to Ed with a link explaining Flair-It fittings,
Big O butted in to denigrate the company and call them polybutylene
fittings.

Philo had said he'd killfiled me, so my response was not arguing with
him. Big O butted in to continue to argue.

4. A troll persists in disproved allegations. When Big O had said they
were polybutylene fittings, I reminded him that the link had repeatedly
called them PEX fittings. I pointed out that they had not come out
until polybutylene had been off the market ten years. Now he'd come
back, butting in to say the hardware store owner and I were dense for
calling them PEX fittings.

5. A troll vastly exaggerates his qualifications. Big O says that
besides installing two fittings in his bathroom, he has been a sidewalk
superintendent, and this gives him more authority than a man who has
been selling hardware and maintaining rental housing for fifty years.

6. A troll slings epithets like idiot, moron and fool. With one
exception, this group is pretty good about avoiding that. Now he has a
disciple.

There have always been meaningful posts here, but these days I've had to
look harder. When I find a nugget, trying to find it a few days later
can be frustrating because of the huge volume of banality these days.

Questions from visitors have always been the lifeblood of this group,
eliciting interesting and informative responses from regulars who might
otherwise descend into banality. Now, when a baffled newbie asks about
the experiences of others with his brand or other brands of fittings,
nobody has anything to tell him.

There was a time when I believe someone in this group would have told me
that a brand of PEX commonly sold for DIY won't fit because it doesn't
comply with the industry standard. It looks as if readers with that
level of knowledge have been driven out of Sodom. Me too.

Thanks for exposing yourself as a nym-shifting troll. Glad you did so,
so I know about you. Philo may now need a new kill file filter. You
have not proven me wrong, yet, doo doo head.

My question. Why do you ASSUME Sharkbite makes or sells PEX?

I'm the PEX man and know more than you. One day, in the future, and I
doubt it, from your former claims, PEX is not Polybutylene, but you
somehow expect it to fit in a Sharkbite. Grow up or go home and call
your trusted plumber that you trust so much. Or get a date!

On 9/16/2015 4:16 PM, Oren wrote:


Thanks for exposing yourself as a nym-shifting troll. Glad you did so,
so I know about you. Philo may now need a new kill file filter. You
have not proven me wrong, yet, doo doo head.

My question. Why do you ASSUME Sharkbite makes or sells PEX?

I'm the PEX man and know more than you. One day, in the future, and I
doubt it, from your former claims, PEX is not Polybutylene, but you
somehow expect it to fit in a Sharkbite. Grow up or go home and call
your trusted plumber that you trust so much. Or get a date!


Or perhaps a date with a trusted plumber.

Help me out here...

Is your question about SharkBites, PEX, Home Depot, industry standards, drunks, sodomites, trolls, newbies, Big O, Philo or nym-shifting?

It's all so jumbled together it's hard to tell.

On 9/16/2015 12:41 PM, J Burns wrote:

[much elided]

There have always been meaningful posts here, but these days I've had to look
harder. When I find a nugget, trying to find it a few days later can be
frustrating because of the huge volume of banality these days.

Unmoderated newsgroups have always had that tendency. There are other
groups that spend megabytes arguing politics -- no doubt folks who are
scared ****less of doing so ina *bar* as the guy sitting next to them may
opt to pop them in the nose! But, the relative safety and anonymity of
USENET lets folks rant at will.

As with anything you get for free, you get exactly what you *paid* for! :

Questions from visitors have always been the lifeblood of this group, eliciting
interesting and informative responses from regulars who might otherwise descend
into banality. Now, when a baffled newbie asks about the experiences of others
with his brand or other brands of fittings, nobody has anything to tell him.

The folks who know may not be interested in replying. Or, may have
"moved on". I've stopped posting in many "technical" Big-7 groups
simply because I'd spend most of my time trying to explain what I
was trying to ask (cuz folks needed to be "spoon fed" and could
only respond to questions of the form: X + 7 = 12; what is X?).
Then, be met with grumbling because I spent so much time explaining
myself! (I guess highly technical people have poor reading skills?)
At the end of the day, my questions would go unanswered -- so, I
now rely on folks that I converse with via email for answers to
*real* questions!

There was a time when I believe someone in this group would have told me that a
brand of PEX commonly sold for DIY won't fit because it doesn't comply with the
industry standard. It looks as if readers with that level of knowledge have
been driven out of Sodom. Me too.

USENET -- and *most* forums -- are primarily *social* places (esp alt.*).
The information you glean is just a bonus. You don't come here (or go
*there*) with an expectation of an answer. Rather, the *hope* of some bit
of information (that you've had to *tease* out of the replies) that you
can then build on.

On 9/16/2015 3:41 PM, J Burns wrote:
I was unable to slide a piece of 1/2" PEX onto an elbow. I've found the
reason. Virtually all fittings that seal against the inside of PEX are
designed for SDR-9, the industry standard. The walls of my SharkBite
pipe are .02" too thick. The ID is .04" too small. It's SDR-7.

A purchaser should know if he is being sold pipe that is not standard.
The SharkBite site doesn't mention any SDR standard for their pipe. The
only dimensions are nominal. How would the purchaser know it wasn't
standard?

A Home Depot search for 1/2 PEX pipe brings up 47 items. The first three
are SharkBite pipe for potable water. The store lists the nominal
dimensions to three decimal places as if they were actual. Even if they
were, they would be outside the industry standard. The only other choice
for potable water comes at the end. That manufacturer provides
dimensions proving it's SDR-9.

SharkBite may have set their wholesale price to take most of the market
at Home Depot. The unsuspecting consumer discovers that only
premium-priced SharkBite fittings will work. Lowes, where professionals
shop, doesn't sell SharkBite pipe. If plumbers find that they must
resort to heating to get SharkBite pipe onto fittings, they'll complain.


Of course, there are different grades of water
copper, K, L, M, and not sure if any other.
Those might be different OD, not sure.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 9/16/2015 3:41 PM, J Burns wrote:
I've lurked and posted here for 18 years. It has been a gold mine of
information. In the days of Deja, I could often find what I needed
without bothering anybody. In time, I tend to get enthused and post
more. Several times when I thought I was posting too much, I've broken
the habit by taking a break and returning under a new name as a newbie.

In the last year or so, my name kept turning up among the top posters.
That's embarrassing, so I've taken a lot of breaks. When I wanted advice
about the fitting that didn't fit, I was on a break. I came back as a
newbie so I wouldn't be tempted to post in other threads.

I asked about using heat. I also asked if another brand of fitting
would work better. Within minutes, Big O jumped in, telling me to learn
to install PEX. Why would he presume I hadn't researched it on the web
and followed the specific instructions of the manufacturer? When other
newbies have posted questions about home repair, I've seen Big O respond
equally quickly to stonewall them, too.

I guess everybody took their cue from Big O. Nobody responded to me
about their experience with PEX. Philo responded to Big O, saying the
clerk was an idiot and the fitting was defective. They congratulated
each other on having each installed two PEX fittings in their lives. I'd
asked if other brands worked better, but neither responded to me.

I compared their behavior to that of drunks, but that was unfair to
drunks. They behaved like Sodomites, who wanted to lynch a couple of
men because they were newbies. In response, Ed was kind enough to say he
didn't know the answer to my questions.

Big O had told Philo I needed to do research. I posted what I found in
response to Ed's post.

Philo responded to me for the first time, saying, "Basically you can
here to ask a question and are simply waiting for the answer you are
looking but not the right one."

The only answer I'd been given had come from Big O, amounting to "Shut
up and go away." That answer wouldn't solve the problem, and I wasn't
simply waiting.

When I responded to Philo, Big O responded, calling me a troll. Really?

1. A troll lies in wait for visitors to a group. That's Big O.

2. A troll loads a group with off-topic threads. Perhaps Big O insults
visitors because he doesn't want home repair to take attention from his
topics.

3. A troll butts in to argue. I had not responded to Big O's initial
post. When I responded to Ed with a link explaining Flair-It fittings,
Big O butted in to denigrate the company and call them polybutylene
fittings.

Philo had said he'd killfiled me, so my response was not arguing with
him. Big O butted in to continue to argue.

4. A troll persists in disproved allegations. When Big O had said they
were polybutylene fittings, I reminded him that the link had repeatedly
called them PEX fittings. I pointed out that they had not come out
until polybutylene had been off the market ten years. Now he'd come
back, butting in to say the hardware store owner and I were dense for
calling them PEX fittings.

5. A troll vastly exaggerates his qualifications. Big O says that
besides installing two fittings in his bathroom, he has been a sidewalk
superintendent, and this gives him more authority than a man who has
been selling hardware and maintaining rental housing for fifty years.

6. A troll slings epithets like idiot, moron and fool. With one
exception, this group is pretty good about avoiding that. Now he has a
disciple.

There have always been meaningful posts here, but these days I've had to
look harder. When I find a nugget, trying to find it a few days later
can be frustrating because of the huge volume of banality these days.

Questions from visitors have always been the lifeblood of this group,
eliciting interesting and informative responses from regulars who might
otherwise descend into banality. Now, when a baffled newbie asks about
the experiences of others with his brand or other brands of fittings,
nobody has anything to tell him.


Please, sir, may we have some.... MORE?

-
..
Christopher A. ****nozzle Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:08:19 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 9/16/2015 3:41 PM, J Burns wrote:
I was unable to slide a piece of 1/2" PEX onto an elbow. I've found the
reason. Virtually all fittings that seal against the inside of PEX are
designed for SDR-9, the industry standard. The walls of my SharkBite
pipe are .02" too thick. The ID is .04" too small. It's SDR-7.

A purchaser should know if he is being sold pipe that is not standard.
The SharkBite site doesn't mention any SDR standard for their pipe. The
only dimensions are nominal. How would the purchaser know it wasn't
standard?

A Home Depot search for 1/2 PEX pipe brings up 47 items. The first three
are SharkBite pipe for potable water. The store lists the nominal
dimensions to three decimal places as if they were actual. Even if they
were, they would be outside the industry standard. The only other choice
for potable water comes at the end. That manufacturer provides
dimensions proving it's SDR-9.

SharkBite may have set their wholesale price to take most of the market
at Home Depot. The unsuspecting consumer discovers that only
premium-priced SharkBite fittings will work. Lowes, where professionals
shop, doesn't sell SharkBite pipe. If plumbers find that they must
resort to heating to get SharkBite pipe onto fittings, they'll complain.


Of course, there are different grades of water
copper, K, L, M, and not sure if any other.
Those might be different OD, not sure.
K L and M have the same external zise but different thickness - and
therefore different IDs

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 6:09:32 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Please, sir, may we have some.... MORE?

-
.
Christopher A. ****nozzle Young

....this can't be our little Mormon?

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:32 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 9/16/2015 3:41 PM, J Burns wrote:

Cry baby nym shifter tears snipped.

Please, sir, may we have some.... MORE?

I'll be your huckleberry, if you need some real PEX advice

Did I mention heat is not used to connect fittings?

DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



Help me out here...

Is your question about SharkBites, PEX, Home Depot, industry standards, drunks, sodomites, trolls, newbies, Big O, Philo or nym-shifting?

It's all so jumbled together it's hard to tell.

+1 I could not figure it either. He had a previous post that I reamed him
about because it led all over fantasy land. He also repeats the same posts
multiple times, insults anyone trying to help and then gets medieval. He
might have been the second person on the inet behind AlGore but sure hasn't
learned anything.

--
Tekkie

Meanie posted for all of us...



On 9/16/2015 4:16 PM, Oren wrote:


Thanks for exposing yourself as a nym-shifting troll. Glad you did so,
so I know about you. Philo may now need a new kill file filter. You
have not proven me wrong, yet, doo doo head.

My question. Why do you ASSUME Sharkbite makes or sells PEX?

I'm the PEX man and know more than you. One day, in the future, and I
doubt it, from your former claims, PEX is not Polybutylene, but you
somehow expect it to fit in a Sharkbite. Grow up or go home and call
your trusted plumber that you trust so much. Or get a date!


Or perhaps a date with a trusted plumber.

He may be a fan of the butt crack but IDK.

--
Tekkie

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Help me out here...

Is your question about SharkBites, PEX, Home Depot, industry standards, drunks, sodomites, trolls, newbies, Big O, Philo or nym-shifting?

It's all so jumbled together it's hard to tell.

Derby, you have to go back a few days:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:34:11 -0400, John Somerset
wrote:

I told him heat was not used for PEX connections. He popped a cork
and went on a rampage against me and philo. Said he trusted his guy
and not me. He could not handle the truth.

You have used PEX and heat was never used, but his "plumber" should be
trusted over what I said.

If attacked, I'll go on the offense. He got ****ed off, then showed
his colors as J Burns. I never had a problem with the guy before.

He was trying to use a polybutelene fitting on PEX, using heat his
glorious plumber told him --- but then gave him a piece of
"polybutelene".

Then I caught him nym-shifting.

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 4:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Help me out here...

Is your question about SharkBites, PEX, Home Depot, industry standards, drunks, sodomites, trolls, newbies, Big O, Philo or nym-shifting?

It's all so jumbled together it's hard to tell.

Derby, you have to go back a few days:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:34:11 -0400, John Somerset
wrote:


I told him heat was not used for PEX connections.

Really? My plumber told me to heat up both ends and then hold them
together until they dry. It only a leaks a little.

He popped a cork

....or unscrewed the cap.

and went on a rampage against me and philo. Said he trusted his guy
and not me. He could not handle the truth.

....not one of the Few Good Men, eh?


You have used PEX and heat was never used, but his "plumber" should be
trusted over what I said.

How can you trust a guy named "Big-O"?


If attacked, I'll go on the offense. He got ****ed off, then showed
his colors as J Burns.

He should have used Montgomery Burns

I never had a problem with the guy before.

How do you know?


He was trying to use a polybutelene fitting on PEX, using heat his
glorious plumber told him --- but then gave him a piece of
"polybutelene".

Maybe he (or his plumber) is using a different sort of pipe altogether.


Then I caught him nym-shifting.

A rose (not!) by any other name...