It was way past time to replace my rubber washer hoses. The reason for the
delay was that my shutoffs were too far away from the washer for a single
hose. I had been using a 5 hose and a 3 hose connected with a M-M hose
fitting so I was in double-danger of a rubber hose bursting. I told myself
a while ago that before I replaced the hoses, I would move the shutoffs.

Well, I decided it was time to bite the bullet and move the shutoffs within
6 and use braided hoses. I went to Home Depot, bought the plumbing
fittings and grabbed a pair of braided hoses.

When I was done with the plumbing, I attached the hoses to the closed
shutoffs and turned the water on to test the system. The open ends of the
hoses were in the utility sink just in case the shutoffs didn't do what
they were supposed to do.

OK...good...no leaks in my plumbing and the shutoffs work fine. Now I'll
open the shutoffs and flush the hoses. I moved the cold water ball valve
handle from horizontal to vertical, got a burst of water from the hose,
then nothing. WTF? Closed the shutoff, turned it back on, nothing. Tried
the hot water. Burst of water, then nothing. Huh? Tried the utility sink
faucets and they worked fine. Ok, I'm seriously confused now.

That's when I grabbed the bag that the hoses came in and realized what was
going in. They were FloodSafe hoses. I didn't even notice that when I
bought them. The full flow rate from the plumbing system was higher than
the setting in hoses, so they shut down. I had to remove the hoses from the
shutoffs to reset them. Once they were reset, I opened the shutoffs just
little and water came out of the hoses. I hooked them up to the washer and
started a load. The washer filled just like it was supposed to. It's good
to know that the FloodSafe hoses do what they are designed to do - shut off
when the flow rate exceeds that of the typical washing machine.

I should probably replace all my supply hoses with FloodSafe hoses.

http://www.watts.com/pages/whatsnew/...connectors.asp

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
It was way past time to replace my rubber washer hoses. The reason for the
delay was that my shutoffs were too far away from the washer for a single
hose. I had been using a 5' hose and a 3' hose connected with a M-M hose
fitting so I was in double-danger of a rubber hose bursting. I told myself
a while ago that before I replaced the hoses, I would move the shutoffs.

Well, I decided it was time to bite the bullet and move the shutoffs
within
6' and use braided hoses. I went to Home Depot, bought the plumbing
fittings and grabbed a pair of braided hoses.

When I was done with the plumbing, I attached the hoses to the closed
shutoffs and turned the water on to test the system. The open ends of the
hoses were in the utility sink just in case the shutoffs didn't do what
they were supposed to do.

OK...good...no leaks in my plumbing and the shutoffs work fine. Now I'll
open the shutoffs and flush the hoses. I moved the cold water ball valve
handle from horizontal to vertical, got a burst of water from the hose,
then nothing. WTF? Closed the shutoff, turned it back on, nothing. Tried
the hot water. Burst of water, then nothing. Huh? Tried the utility sink
faucets and they worked fine. Ok, I'm seriously confused now.

That's when I grabbed the bag that the hoses came in and realized what was
going in. They were FloodSafe hoses. I didn't even notice that when I
bought them. The full flow rate from the plumbing system was higher than
the setting in hoses, so they shut down. I had to remove the hoses from
the
shutoffs to reset them. Once they were reset, I opened the shutoffs just
little and water came out of the hoses. I hooked them up to the washer and
started a load. The washer filled just like it was supposed to. It's good
to know that the FloodSafe hoses do what they are designed to do - shut
off
when the flow rate exceeds that of the typical washing machine.

I should probably replace all my supply hoses with FloodSafe hoses.

http://www.watts.com/pages/whatsnew/...connectors.asp

I like the concept, but there are ton of lousy reviews out there.
Apparently, these things just break and cause more leakage than if you just
bought regular hoses.

On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:12:18 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:

http://www.watts.com/pages/whatsnew/...connectors.asp

I like the concept, but there are ton of lousy reviews out there.
Apparently, these things just break and cause more leakage than if you just
bought regular hoses.

Why trust negative reviews all the time? Negative reviews sometimes
have comments and replies. They are resolved instead.

(If it ain't broke, I haven't worked on it)

On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:55:13 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

It was way past time to replace my rubber washer hoses. The reason for the
delay was that my shutoffs were too far away from the washer for a single
hose. I had been using a 5’ hose and a 3’ hose connected with a M-M hose
fitting so I was in double-danger of a rubber hose bursting. I told myself
a while ago that before I replaced the hoses, I would move the shutoffs.

Well, I decided it was time to bite the bullet and move the shutoffs within
6’ and use braided hoses. I went to Home Depot, bought the plumbing
fittings and grabbed a pair of braided hoses.

When I was done with the plumbing, I attached the hoses to the closed
shutoffs and turned the water on to test the system. The open ends of the
hoses were in the utility sink just in case the shutoffs didn't do what
they were supposed to do.

Now I'm confused. What did you think they were supposed to do?

If they weren't turn-off-hoses, they weren't supposed to do anything but
let the water pour out.


OK...good...no leaks in my plumbing and the shutoffs work fine. Now I'll
open the shutoffs and flush the hoses. I moved the cold water ball valve
handle from horizontal to vertical, got a burst of water from the hose,
then nothing. WTF? Closed the shutoff, turned it back on, nothing. Tried
the hot water. Burst of water, then nothing. Huh? Tried the utility sink
faucets and they worked fine. Ok, I'm seriously confused now.

That's when I grabbed the bag that the hoses came in and realized what was
going in. They were FloodSafe hoses. I didn't even notice that when I
bought them. The full flow rate from the plumbing system was higher than
the setting in hoses, so they shut down. I had to remove the hoses from the
shutoffs to reset them. Once they were reset, I opened the shutoffs just
little and water came out of the hoses. I hooked them up to the washer and
started a load. The washer filled just like it was supposed to. It's good
to know that the FloodSafe hoses do what they are designed to do - shut off
when the flow rate exceeds that of the typical washing machine.

I should probably replace all my supply hoses with FloodSafe hoses.

http://www.watts.com/pages/whatsnew/...connectors.asp

micky wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:55:13 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote:

....snip...

When I was done with the plumbing, I attached the hoses to the closed
shutoffs and turned the water on to test the system. The open ends of the
hoses were in the utility sink just in case the shutoffs didn't do what
they were supposed to do.

Now I'm confused. What did you think they were supposed to do?

If they weren't turn-off-hoses, they weren't supposed to do anything but
let the water pour out.


Re-read what I wrote. Oh, never mind, I'll write it again...

"...just in case the _shutoffs_ didn't do what they were supposed to do."

In other words, since I attached the hoses to the closed _shutoffs_ that I
had just installed, I put the open ends of the hoses in the sink just in
case the _shutoffs_ didn't actually shut the water off.

I would never refer to a "flow rate activated flood prevention mechanism"
as a "shutoff" since the term "shutoff" has a specific meaning in the
language of plumbing.

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 04:40:33 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

micky wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:55:13 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote:

...snip...

When I was done with the plumbing, I attached the hoses to the closed
shutoffs and turned the water on to test the system. The open ends of the
hoses were in the utility sink just in case the shutoffs didn't do what
they were supposed to do.

Now I'm confused. What did you think they were supposed to do?

If they weren't turn-off-hoses, they weren't supposed to do anything but
let the water pour out.


Re-read what I wrote. Oh, never mind, I'll write it again...

"...just in case the _shutoffs_ didn't do what they were supposed to do."

In other words, since I attached the hoses to the closed _shutoffs_ that I
had just installed, I put the open ends of the hoses in the sink just in
case the _shutoffs_ didn't actually shut the water off.

I would never refer to a "flow rate activated flood prevention mechanism"
as a "shutoff" since the term "shutoff" has a specific meaning in the
language of plumbing.

Okay. Thanks.

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:12:18 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:

http://www.watts.com/pages/whatsnew/...connectors.asp

I like the concept, but there are ton of lousy reviews out there.
Apparently, these things just break and cause more leakage than if you
just
bought regular hoses.

Why trust negative reviews all the time? Negative reviews sometimes
have comments and replies. They are resolved instead.

I don't trust negative reviews all the time. But I have seen a large number
of negative reviews, very few favorable reviews (none at all saying they
have been using them for a lengthy period of time), no comments and replies,
and from seemingly trustworthy sources. I will let others be the guinea
pigs, not me.

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 07:48:55 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:12:18 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:

http://www.watts.com/pages/whatsnew/...connectors.asp

I like the concept, but there are ton of lousy reviews out there.
Apparently, these things just break and cause more leakage than if you
just
bought regular hoses.

Why trust negative reviews all the time? Negative reviews sometimes
have comments and replies. They are resolved instead.

I don't trust negative reviews all the time. But I have seen a large number
of negative reviews, very few favorable reviews (none at all saying they
have been using them for a lengthy period of time), no comments and replies,
and from seemingly trustworthy sources. I will let others be the guinea
pigs, not me.

A story on the news a few months ago about people who just like to write
negative reviews, of products they've never used. It said that clues
were lack of specifics.

I also heard about someone who put 50,000 phoney commercial locations on
Google maps. I think he was paid to do this but I missed by whom and
why.