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Default 3 way switch. 2 switches 2 recessed lights in the hall way

On 1/30/2014 9:24 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/30/2014 5:25 PM, wrote:
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When I took off the connections on the one fixture, it was white on
white, black on black, and ground on ground. I would have noticed if
it was mixed. and I didn't even touch the other light. I just don't
understand how it could have worked and then all of sudden stop


"Stuff happens..."

If as outlined previously you can't understand how the wiring is
_supposed_ to be based on readily-available wiring diagrams for 3-way
switches to use to diagnose the problem, sounds like time to call in the
pro...

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It could be that there was damage to the wiring and the jostling of the
wiring created a short. If I follow this thread, correctly, you only
replaced the light fixture and after this is when you noticed the short.

Is it possible that it shorted before? Meaning that you are positive
that the breaker was not tripped before you made the replacement? If
so, then the problem is at the location of the first fixture that you
replaced. Either the fixture is wired improperly or there is an issue,
physically, with the wiring. Inspect the wiring, then isolate. Put
wire nuts on each individual wire and stuff back into the box. Turn
breaker back on and flip the switch on-off. Wire nut fixture without
mounting back to outlet box, turn breaker back on and flip the switch
on-off. You might get it to replicate, but if you do manage to get it
working without tripping the breaker this does not mean that everything
is okay.

You must find out why it is tripping and repair the problem. Hopefully
you just mixed up a traveler with the neutral.


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Default 3 way switch. 2 switches 2 recessed lights in the hall way

On 1/30/2014 10:29 PM, Steve F. wrote:
On 1/30/2014 9:24 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/30/2014 5:25 PM, wrote:
....

When I took off the connections on the one fixture, it was white on
white, black on black, and ground on ground. I would have noticed if
it was mixed. and I didn't even touch the other light. I just don't
understand how it could have worked and then all of sudden stop


"Stuff happens..."

If as outlined previously you can't understand how the wiring is
_supposed_ to be based on readily-available wiring diagrams for 3-way
switches to use to diagnose the problem, sounds like time to call in the
pro...

--

It could be that there was damage to the wiring and the jostling of the
wiring created a short. If I follow this thread, correctly, you only
replaced the light fixture and after this is when you noticed the short.

Is it possible that it shorted before? Meaning that you are positive
that the breaker was not tripped before you made the replacement? If
so, then the problem is at the location of the first fixture that you
replaced. Either the fixture is wired improperly or there is an issue,
physically, with the wiring. Inspect the wiring, then isolate. Put
wire nuts on each individual wire and stuff back into the box. Turn
breaker back on and flip the switch on-off. Wire nut fixture without
mounting back to outlet box, turn breaker back on and flip the switch
on-off. You might get it to replicate, but if you do manage to get it
working without tripping the breaker this does not mean that everything
is okay.

You must find out why it is tripping and repair the problem. Hopefully
you just mixed up a traveler with the neutral.


The difficulty here is that there's no way to tell what actually
happened before. It is quite unusual for a nearly new light fixture to
somehow fail internally (what more two) unless these are some new LED or
other thingie. Altho it was noted that switches were replaced; almost
as likely I'd think there was a bad batch of switches or the electrician
used some cheap Asian imports or something and the problem's in the
switch(es) as much or more than the fixtures.

It's also not clear what "quit working" means and what, if any,
diagnostics were performed on the system before the dismantling.

Who's tied to whom depends on the relative location of feed, switches
and lights...as suggested, OP needs to look online for the configuration
that matches his; there are innumerable images that illustrate any
perturbation of from whence the feed comes and the arrangement.

It ain't rocket science but it does require figuring out what one is
doing if don't know once there's a problem.

One possible way to start would be by taking a fixture and first
checking it works on its own, then the switches and the wiring all in
turn...
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