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On 1/30/2014 9:24 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/30/2014 5:25 PM, wrote: .... When I took off the connections on the one fixture, it was white on white, black on black, and ground on ground. I would have noticed if it was mixed. and I didn't even touch the other light. I just don't understand how it could have worked and then all of sudden stop "Stuff happens..." ![]() If as outlined previously you can't understand how the wiring is _supposed_ to be based on readily-available wiring diagrams for 3-way switches to use to diagnose the problem, sounds like time to call in the pro... -- It could be that there was damage to the wiring and the jostling of the wiring created a short. If I follow this thread, correctly, you only replaced the light fixture and after this is when you noticed the short. Is it possible that it shorted before? Meaning that you are positive that the breaker was not tripped before you made the replacement? If so, then the problem is at the location of the first fixture that you replaced. Either the fixture is wired improperly or there is an issue, physically, with the wiring. Inspect the wiring, then isolate. Put wire nuts on each individual wire and stuff back into the box. Turn breaker back on and flip the switch on-off. Wire nut fixture without mounting back to outlet box, turn breaker back on and flip the switch on-off. You might get it to replicate, but if you do manage to get it working without tripping the breaker this does not mean that everything is okay. You must find out why it is tripping and repair the problem. Hopefully you just mixed up a traveler with the neutral. |
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On 1/30/2014 10:29 PM, Steve F. wrote:
On 1/30/2014 9:24 PM, dpb wrote: On 1/30/2014 5:25 PM, wrote: .... When I took off the connections on the one fixture, it was white on white, black on black, and ground on ground. I would have noticed if it was mixed. and I didn't even touch the other light. I just don't understand how it could have worked and then all of sudden stop "Stuff happens..." ![]() If as outlined previously you can't understand how the wiring is _supposed_ to be based on readily-available wiring diagrams for 3-way switches to use to diagnose the problem, sounds like time to call in the pro... -- It could be that there was damage to the wiring and the jostling of the wiring created a short. If I follow this thread, correctly, you only replaced the light fixture and after this is when you noticed the short. Is it possible that it shorted before? Meaning that you are positive that the breaker was not tripped before you made the replacement? If so, then the problem is at the location of the first fixture that you replaced. Either the fixture is wired improperly or there is an issue, physically, with the wiring. Inspect the wiring, then isolate. Put wire nuts on each individual wire and stuff back into the box. Turn breaker back on and flip the switch on-off. Wire nut fixture without mounting back to outlet box, turn breaker back on and flip the switch on-off. You might get it to replicate, but if you do manage to get it working without tripping the breaker this does not mean that everything is okay. You must find out why it is tripping and repair the problem. Hopefully you just mixed up a traveler with the neutral. The difficulty here is that there's no way to tell what actually happened before. It is quite unusual for a nearly new light fixture to somehow fail internally (what more two) unless these are some new LED or other thingie. Altho it was noted that switches were replaced; almost as likely I'd think there was a bad batch of switches or the electrician used some cheap Asian imports or something and the problem's in the switch(es) as much or more than the fixtures. It's also not clear what "quit working" means and what, if any, diagnostics were performed on the system before the dismantling. Who's tied to whom depends on the relative location of feed, switches and lights...as suggested, OP needs to look online for the configuration that matches his; there are innumerable images that illustrate any perturbation of from whence the feed comes and the arrangement. It ain't rocket science but it does require figuring out what one is doing if don't know once there's a problem. One possible way to start would be by taking a fixture and first checking it works on its own, then the switches and the wiring all in turn... |
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