Anyone recommend one that actually works?

I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.

So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm assuming I got them at Lowe's.

thanks

nate

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

Anyone recommend one that actually works?

I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto.

An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.

On 1/29/2014 11:55 AM, N8N wrote:
Anyone recommend one that actually works?

I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.

So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm assuming I got them at Lowe's.

thanks

nate


I have had the best success with the panduit brand. If you can get
it to stick, it will stay together. Not cheap!

Example: Panduit ABM2S-A-C14

There are different sizes. If possible, use a heat gun to preheat
the surface a bit before application. Sort of hard with paneling,
but maybe, with gloves, you may heat the mount itself. Just enough
heat to start to make the adhesive start to get soft, almost gooey.

As you know, a clean surface is required.

N8N wrote:
Anyone recommend one that actually works?

I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.

So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm assuming I got them at Lowe's.

thanks

nate

You might try a spray adhesive.
3M, Loctite, Elmers, Weldwood, and others sell it.


--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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N8N wrote:
Anyone recommend one that actually works?

I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and
owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs,
but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all
ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not
the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I
got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that
also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.

So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is
the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm
assuming I got them at Lowe's.

thanks

nate

Have you checked out the 3M Command Strips display at any home center,
Walmart, Staples, etc?

http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...ducts/Catalog/

They have all sorts of hooks and Velcro straps and even an assortment of
Cord Clips.

http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...94529207&rt=r3

The adhesive is removable with a pull of a tab on the adhesive strip. Clean
the area as instructed and you should be good to go. I used little mini
hooks to hang Christmas light strings on my living room wall. Next year
I'll buy the replacement adhesive strips and re-use the hooks.

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

Anyone recommend one that actually works?

I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place)
and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky
backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and
looking all ghetto.

An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.

If you're that sensitive about living in the ghetto , you should take
advantage of one of the training programs that are reserved for ghetto
blacks and then get an affirmative action job . You'll be very surprised at
how much better it feels to actually earn a paycheck instead of rollin' in
to the bank in your Caddy with the 24" spinners to cash your welfare check .
Or maybe not , you might be one of those 3rd gen welfare clients that'd
rather sell his/her food stamps to buy crack ...
But what do I know , I'm just a po white boy that can't find a job because
of the color of my skin . Not that I've lived in a black neighborhood for
the last 25 years or anything ... and watched the circus that we've created
.. More bread ! More Circuses !
--
Snag
Yes , I know
my bias
is showing .

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N

wrote:



Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto.



An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.

My friend has a shop in the ghetto. His employees, who live in said ghetto, are far less sensitive than you.

nate

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:47:40 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
N8N wrote:

Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and

owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs,

but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all

ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not

the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I

got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that

also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.



So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is

the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm

assuming I got them at Lowe's.



thanks



nate



Have you checked out the 3M Command Strips display at any home center,

Walmart, Staples, etc?



http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...ducts/Catalog/



They have all sorts of hooks and Velcro straps and even an assortment of

Cord Clips.



http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...94529207&rt=r3



The adhesive is removable with a pull of a tab on the adhesive strip. Clean

the area as instructed and you should be good to go. I used little mini

hooks to hang Christmas light strings on my living room wall. Next year

I'll buy the replacement adhesive strips and re-use the hooks.

Now that I might try, didn't think of that. All depends on whether they'll stick to the plastic of the existing (less than sticky) backs.

nate

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:55:59 -0800 (PST), N8N wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:47:40 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
N8N wrote:

Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and

owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs,

but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all

ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not

the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I

got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that

also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.



So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is

the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm

assuming I got them at Lowe's.



thanks



nate



Have you checked out the 3M Command Strips display at any home center,

Walmart, Staples, etc?



http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...ducts/Catalog/



They have all sorts of hooks and Velcro straps and even an assortment of

Cord Clips.



http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...94529207&rt=r3



The adhesive is removable with a pull of a tab on the adhesive strip. Clean

the area as instructed and you should be good to go. I used little mini

hooks to hang Christmas light strings on my living room wall. Next year

I'll buy the replacement adhesive strips and re-use the hooks.

Now that I might try, didn't think of that. All depends on whether they'll stick to the plastic of the existing (less than sticky) backs.

nate

The self adhesive mounts are pretty bad. After experiencing many failures I
decided to remove the tape from the mounts, scuff the mounts with sandpaper then
use a higher temperature, industrial, hot melt glue designed to work with
plastic and porous surfaces. It is a pain in the ass, but I could suspend my
mother-in-law from one of these things, at least until the wife finds
out........

N8N wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:47:40 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
N8N wrote:

Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and

owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs,

but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all

ghetto. Problem is the sticky part is sticking to the paneling but not

the plastic of the sticky back itself! When they started coming down I

got some 3M double stick tape and wiped the surfaces with alcohol, that

also sticks to the paneling but the plastic block falls off of that too.



So I guess I need to find a different product and start over. What is

the "real stuff?" The ones that are falling down are probably G-B as I'm

assuming I got them at Lowe's.



thanks



nate



Have you checked out the 3M Command Strips display at any home center,

Walmart, Staples, etc?



http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...ducts/Catalog/



They have all sorts of hooks and Velcro straps and even an assortment of

Cord Clips.



http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M...94529207&rt=r3



The adhesive is removable with a pull of a tab on the adhesive strip. Clean

the area as instructed and you should be good to go. I used little mini

hooks to hang Christmas light strings on my living room wall. Next year

I'll buy the replacement adhesive strips and re-use the hooks.

Now that I might try, didn't think of that. All depends on whether
they'll stick to the plastic of the existing (less than sticky) backs.

nate

In your OP you said you were willing to "start over". I don't know if I
would spend money on replacement Command strips only to find that they
don't work with the existing cable tie holders.

Under the second link above you'll see that 3m makes cord clips of various
sizes. Why not buy the correct size for your speaker wires and not try to
mix and match one company's adhesive with another company's mounts?

If you are set on reusing your mounts, then you might want to look at the
picture hanger strips instead. They are basically adhesive backed hook and
loop strips, with one part designated for the wall and the other part
designated for whatever you are hanging. I have hung framed posters with
them and never had either the wall side or frame side let go.

They are great for dorm rooms and apartments since they don't damage the
paint - as long as you remove them properly by pulling the tab in a
straight line along the same plane as the mounting surface (e.g. a wall)
and don't pull the tab _away_ from the wall. You need to stretch the
adhesive strip to get the adhesive to let go cleanly.

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:55:07 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N

wrote:



Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto.



An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.

My friend has a shop in the ghetto. His employees, who live in said ghetto, are far less sensitive than you.

nate

How do you know? How does he know?

People put up with a lot of crap when they need a job.

And Coombs, why do you think I'm poor? I'm not. I just know
piggishness when I see it, and I see it in you.

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:55:07 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N

wrote:



Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto.



An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.

My friend has a shop in the ghetto. His employees, who live in said ghetto, are far less sensitive than you.

Also, it IS possible that his employees know him long enough to trust
him, know that he's a good guy, and are willing to joke around with him.
Trust that would have taken months or years to build, at least with the
first employee.

His possible good relations with them does nothing good for you. We
have no idea if you're a practicing racist or not, except what we see in
your text and what you wrote was obnoxious and, I'm sure, racist.




nate

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:11:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:55:07 -0800 (PST), N8N

wrote:



On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N



wrote:







Anyone recommend one that actually works?







I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto..







An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.



My friend has a shop in the ghetto. His employees, who live in said ghetto, are far less sensitive than you.



Also, it IS possible that his employees know him long enough to trust

him, know that he's a good guy, and are willing to joke around with him.

Trust that would have taken months or years to build, at least with the

first employee.



His possible good relations with them does nothing good for you. We

have no idea if you're a practicing racist or not, except what we see in

your text and what you wrote was obnoxious and, I'm sure, racist.


Oh balls. We all like and respect each other, they know it's a **** neighborhood, I know it's a **** neighborhood, we give each other **** and it's all good, we're (well, they are, I am when I'm there) there just to hopefully provide good service at a fair price to the people who choose to bring their busted cars in to be fixed. Now they can call me a redneck honky mofo, but I'd be offended if someone else did...

nate

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:55:07 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N

wrote:



Anyone recommend one that actually works?



I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place)
and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used
sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are
dangling and looking all ghetto.



An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.

My friend has a shop in the ghetto. His employees, who live in said
ghetto, are far less sensitive than you.

nate

How do you know? How does he know?

People put up with a lot of crap when they need a job.

And Coombs, why do you think I'm poor? I'm not. I just know
piggishness when I see it, and I see it in you.

I never said you're poor . And define "piggishness" to me . We live a very
simple lifestyle out here in the woods , the wife has a p/t job because she
got racist-ed out of a good teaching job and I run a small machine shop
because I got laid off when the economy crashed . But we DO own a home in
Memphis , and it IS in a ghetto wasn't ghetto when we bought it ..., and
we are VERY familiar with the ghetto lifestyle . Ever lived across the
street from a crack dealer ? We did . Any shootings on your street ? Not
just an ineffective drive-by , I'm talking assault rifles and babies getting
killed . Happened on ours . So don't preach to me about "ghetto" .
--
Snag

On 1/30/2014 7:40 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:

I never said you're poor . And define "piggishness" to me . We live a very
simple lifestyle out here in the woods , the wife has a p/t job because she
got racist-ed out of a good teaching job and I run a small machine shop
because I got laid off when the economy crashed . But we DO own a home in
Memphis , and it IS in a ghetto wasn't ghetto when we bought it ..., and
we are VERY familiar with the ghetto lifestyle . Ever lived across the
street from a crack dealer ? We did . Any shootings on your street ? Not
just an ineffective drive-by , I'm talking assault rifles and babies getting
killed . Happened on ours . So don't preach to me about "ghetto" .


All you have to do is mention Memphis, and those in the know will think
White and Southaven.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:31:36 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:11:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:55:07 -0800 (PST), N8N

wrote:



On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), N8N



wrote:







Anyone recommend one that actually works?







I ran some wires for surround sound in the basement (rented place) and owner didn't want me taking down the paneling. So I used sticky backs, but they've all failed and now the wires are dangling and looking all ghetto.







An obnoxious term. Screw you and your problems.



My friend has a shop in the ghetto. His employees, who live in said ghetto, are far less sensitive than you.



Also, it IS possible that his employees know him long enough to trust

him, know that he's a good guy, and are willing to joke around with him.

Trust that would have taken months or years to build, at least with the

first employee.



His possible good relations with them does nothing good for you. We

have no idea if you're a practicing racist or not, except what we see in

your text and what you wrote was obnoxious and, I'm sure, racist.


Oh balls. We all like and respect each other, they know it's a **** neighborhood,

You've switched who "we" refers to. I meant the people reading this ng
and you are talking about the people you know where you live or work or
somewhere. Try reading my previous 3 lines to mean the people on this
ng.

I know it's a **** neighborhood, we give each other **** and it's all good, we're (well, they are, I am when I'm there) there just to hopefully provide good service at a fair price to the people who choose to bring their busted cars in to be fixed. Now they can call me a redneck honky mofo, but I'd be offended if someone else did...

nate

It might all be true that the people you know in RL trust you and that
they wouldn't have been offended to read that first post, but no one on
this ng but you knows that. To the rest of those reading, you came off
as a snarky racist and you encouraged any others who are snarky or
racist to do the same thing, here and elsewhere. Coombs might be one
of them.

And Coombs, the same thing goes for you.