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OT need step by step on this alternator/pulley/belt replacement
This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE
belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:51:43 -0700, RobertMacy
wrote: This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. http://www.alldatadiy.com/index.html One vehicle, 1 year online subscription for $26.95. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:11:46 -0700, Oren wrote:
...snip... http://www.alldatadiy.com/index.html One vehicle, 1 year online subscription for $26.95. thanks. that was also recommended by the place that sent me the parts. I just spent 1 1/2 hour trying to get through their website, and even sign up, between balking [most prevalent] and plain throwing me off the web page ?! I finally gave up. I kind of wanted to know what this entails before I invest. I may not even have all the right tools to do it. Hate to pay, THEN find out I just wasted the fee. by the way the 3Rill has an english and a metric socket set, up to 12mm socket |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:13:10 -0700, RobertMacy
wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:11:46 -0700, Oren wrote: ...snip... http://www.alldatadiy.com/index.html One vehicle, 1 year online subscription for $26.95. thanks. that was also recommended by the place that sent me the parts. I just spent 1 1/2 hour trying to get through their website, and even sign up, between balking [most prevalent] and plain throwing me off the web page ?! I finally gave up. I kind of wanted to know what this entails before I invest. I may not even have all the right tools to do it. Hate to pay, THEN find out I just wasted the fee. Is there a Mercedes dealer close by? If, so call the parts department and politely ask if they will copy a few pages from the shop manual. They may or may not do that. The Haynes manual and Chilton CD I have for my truck are very limited. Mostly for DIY, and are not real shop manuals - that a mechanic uses daily. .... by the way the 3Rill has an english and a metric socket set, up to 12mm socket I just bought the basic kit, drill, charger, two batteries and tote bag. I have plenty of bits and drill nut drivers from years of collection. My order went directly from Fed Ex to the USPS back east. From NC to WV. Left WV ~ 1:00 am EST this morning. Global cooling is slowing it down I guess Estimated arrival Jan 31st. I bet it gets here before then. |
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RobertMacy wrote:
This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. Is there a Haynes or other aftermarket repair manual for your vehicle ? They're available for most makes/models , and many non-mechanic people like them because they don't usually assume a certain level of expertise . -- Snag |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:05:23 -0700, Terry Coombs wrote:
...snip... Is there a Haynes or other aftermarket repair manual for your vehicle ? They're available for most makes/models , and many non-mechanic people like them because they don't usually assume a certain level of expertise . I have a manual, that I've used before. It's in storage. I have NO access to it at this time. Not buy another one. I just need to check if replacing these items is an easy task, or if I get into the replacement and find that unnoticed at the start I need to pull the engine out, type of thing. |
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RobertMacy wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:05:23 -0700, Terry Coombs wrote: ...snip... Is there a Haynes or other aftermarket repair manual for your vehicle ? They're available for most makes/models , and many non-mechanic people like them because they don't usually assume a certain level of expertise . I have a manual, that I've used before. It's in storage. I have NO access to it at this time. Not buy another one. I just need to check if replacing these items is an easy task, or if I get into the replacement and find that unnoticed at the start I need to pull the engine out, type of thing. Another manual aftermarket is cheaper than the online service you mentioned earlier in this thread ... -- Snag |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:31:35 -0700, Terry Coombs wrote:
...snip.... Another manual aftermarket is cheaper than the online service you mentioned earlier in this thread ... But haven't found one I can have in my hands today. |
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Robert,
Many public libraries have a good selection of auto manuals. Many libraries are now on-line. Dave M. |
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"RobertMacy" wrote in message newsp.w97twhri2cx0wh@ajm... This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. I have a Infiniti and wanted a shop manual. Dealer wanted $450.00 Forget that. I think it was on E Bay I found the complete manual on a DVD or CD for about $10.00. Bought that. Needed a lift when belts needed changing as had to get to top and underneath . Took it to my mechanic and he did it fairly fast. $25.00 labor plus belts. I am too old to do this stuff. WW |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:13:37 -0700, WW wrote:
...snip.... I have a Infiniti and wanted a shop manual. Dealer wanted $450.00 Forget that. I think it was on E Bay I found the complete manual on a DVD or CD for about $10.00. Bought that. Needed a lift when belts needed changing as had to get to top and underneath . Took it to my mechanic and he did it fairly fast. $25.00 labor plus belts. I am too old to do this stuff. WW EXACTLY! I just don't want to get into something that may require a bit more than is in the garage. But the answers seem to all be stuff like "depends"; "$120+" if I bring the parts with me; or "have to look at it" crap. I just want access to a mechanic who knows me enough to trust the answer's 'qualifications' I understand, so I can get a real response or find a mechanic who doesn't give out these rote answers that make him sound like a crook. the "I have to look at it" bothers me the most, even if it's a true statement. He could have at least said, "the last time I did one of those I charged $xxx and be the same for you as long as your car has NO problems. To be sure, I can tell you by looking at it ahead of starting to reapair it." Same information, but just not said so sleazy. And, likely after taking my car to someone who talks like that, I would easily approve 200% more with some good justification. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:51:43 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:
This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. Were you planning on repairing the alternator, replacing it with rebuilt or new unit? |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:43:13 -0700, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:51:43 -0700, RobertMacy wrote: This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. Were you planning on repairing the alternator, replacing it with rebuilt or new unit? |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:43:13 -0700, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:51:43 -0700, RobertMacy wrote: This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. Were you planning on repairing the alternator, replacing it with rebuilt or new unit? Ithought I posted that I had the alternator, pulley, and belt to replace the existing ones with. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:51:43 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:
This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. Have you seen this? http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm |
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On Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:46:52 AM UTC-5, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:51:43 -0700, RobertMacy wrote: This is a 1977 Mercedes 280SE belt, alternator, & pulley need replacing. everything is behind 2 other belts, so... any step by step instructions [maybe with photos], no video, just pics somewhere on the internet? Looks easy enough, but want to make sure there's no 'gotcha' half way through it. Have you seen this? http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm Or these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Ser...item417795636b http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BEN...3ea847&vxp=mtr I have the original manuals for the 116 series, but I have the 300SD and the alternator is part of the engine, which is in a separate manual, so I don't have it for the gas engine. If you buy one of those, just make sure that it includes the manual for the engine, not just the 116 chassis. Those cars are basic and the alternator is easy to get to. If you can see the bolts holding it and it looks clear how it comes off, I wouldn't be worried about doing it without the manual. As I side thing, I've always wondered how people are selling all kinds of auto manufacturer's manuals online on CD's. You would think this is copyrighted and they would be busted. |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:46:52 -0700, Lab Lover wrote:
...snip... Have you seen this? http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THANK YOU!! Although the specifc model is not listed in his list, the photos look similar, and that everything is done from on top the hood access WITHOUT special tools, just that very appreciated list of tools Now, I wonder where he talks about how to get the other two belts removed that are in the way .... |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:27:55 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:46:52 -0700, Lab Lover wrote: ...snip... Have you seen this? http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THANK YOU!! Although the specifc model is not listed in his list, the photos look similar, and that everything is done from on top the hood access WITHOUT special tools, just that very appreciated list of tools Now, I wonder where he talks about how to get the other two belts removed that are in the way .... You are welcome. This should be fairly simple. Just remember, if the primary wire to the alternator fastens with a nut to a thread stud, DO NOT over tighten this nut. I would estimate 10 - 15 ft/lbs. This connection is usually made directly to a diode. |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:34:29 -0700, Lab Lover wrote:
...snip... You are welcome. This should be fairly simple. Just remember, if the primary wire to the alternator fastens with a nut to a thread stud, DO NOT over tighten this nut. I would estimate 10 - 15 ft/lbs. This connection is usually made directly to a diode. duly noted. don't have a torque wrench, but will only tighten until just before I hear that distinctive 'crunch' |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:17:18 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:34:29 -0700, Lab Lover wrote: ...snip... You are welcome. This should be fairly simple. Just remember, if the primary wire to the alternator fastens with a nut to a thread stud, DO NOT over tighten this nut. I would estimate 10 - 15 ft/lbs. This connection is usually made directly to a diode. duly noted. don't have a torque wrench, but will only tighten until just before I hear that distinctive 'crunch' Yeah, hard to describe how tight to make it, just make sure there is no twist in the wire lug. |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:17:18 -0700, RobertMacy
wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:34:29 -0700, Lab Lover wrote: ...snip... You are welcome. This should be fairly simple. Just remember, if the primary wire to the alternator fastens with a nut to a thread stud, DO NOT over tighten this nut. I would estimate 10 - 15 ft/lbs. This connection is usually made directly to a diode. duly noted. don't have a torque wrench, but will only tighten until just before I hear that distinctive 'crunch' You can use a star washer behind the terminal. It snugs up swell, without much torque. http://tekfastners.com/images/star-washers-833443.jpg -- "There's nothing like the scent of Cordite in a woman's hair." |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:17:18 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:
duly noted. don't have a torque wrench, but will only tighten until just before I hear that distinctive 'crunch' Does the Mercedes also have belt tensioners? If so, you might want to consider replacing them, while you're there. |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:34:29 -0700, Lab Lover wrote:
...snip... You are welcome. This should be fairly simple. Just remember, if the primary wire to the alternator fastens with a nut to a thread stud, DO NOT over tighten this nut. I would estimate 10 - 15 ft/lbs. This connection is usually made directly to a diode. are you at Rule in Boston? |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:46:49 -0700, RobertMacy wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:34:29 -0700, Lab Lover wrote: ...snip... You are welcome. This should be fairly simple. Just remember, if the primary wire to the alternator fastens with a nut to a thread stud, DO NOT over tighten this nut. I would estimate 10 - 15 ft/lbs. This connection is usually made directly to a diode. are you at Rule in Boston? You lost me. |
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