Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.
--
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.²
‹ Aaron Levenstein

On 11/8/2013 4:59 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


Get one which uses an app for your smartphone, um, that is, if you use a
smartphone, otherwise, you will need a computer. I do believe most, if
not all, do use apps, but double check the one you purchase. The name
brands will have apps.

I have a Lennox furnace/ac system which came with it's own touch screen
wifi thermostat/thermometer. I am able to control the temp and program
from ANYWHERE I can get connection.

On 11/08/2013 01:59 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.

Sure, just open a port on your router and use RDP or VPN to gain access
to your home network. If it is visible on your computer, then you can
make it visible to yourself as a remote client.

Jon

On 11/8/13, 4:59 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


Take a look at this one
http://store.lacrossetechnology.com/...d-alert-system

"Use a smartphone, tablet or computer to receive alerts and remotely
monitor temperature and humidity levels"

In article ,
Retired wrote:

http://store.lacrossetechnology.com/...itor-and-alert
-system

Thanks. I'll check into it.
--
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.²
‹ Aaron Levenstein

Meanie wrote:
On 11/8/2013 4:59 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


Get one which uses an app for your smartphone, um, that is, if you use a
smartphone, otherwise, you will need a computer. I do believe most, if
not all, do use apps, but double check the one you purchase. The name
brands will have apps.

I have a Lennox furnace/ac system which came with it's own touch screen
wifi thermostat/thermometer. I am able to control the temp and program
from ANYWHERE I can get connection.
Hi,
That is through the Internet. WiFi is connected to your router.

On 11/8/2013 8:51 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Meanie wrote:
On 11/8/2013 4:59 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


Get one which uses an app for your smartphone, um, that is, if you use a
smartphone, otherwise, you will need a computer. I do believe most, if
not all, do use apps, but double check the one you purchase. The name
brands will have apps.

I have a Lennox furnace/ac system which came with it's own touch screen
wifi thermostat/thermometer. I am able to control the temp and program
from ANYWHERE I can get connection.
Hi,
That is through the Internet. WiFi is connected to your router.

No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if they
know the code/password via the internet.

On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily. The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow anything
outside to initiate a connection.

--
Wes Groleau

Armchair Activism: http://www.breakthechain.org/armchair.html

On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily. The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

On 11-09-2013, 14:08, Meanie wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily. The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

No. IF the router doesn't block the access (as most DO) and IF the
device is capable of responding to such attempts, only then can you
access the device from outside the LAN.

--
Wes Groleau

Armchair Activism: http://www.breakthechain.org/armchair.html

Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 14:08, Meanie wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain
remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily. The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

No. IF the router doesn't block the access (as most DO) and IF the
device is capable of responding to such attempts, only then can you
access the device from outside the LAN.

Hi,
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.
c

On 11-10-2013 10:31, Tony Hwang wrote:
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.

Your router has been changed from the default to allow these connections
to be initiated from the outside. That's a bit different from the
blanket statement that your "WiFi" can be accessed from the internet
anytime.

Hopefully, you have also had installed appropriate security to keep out
the censored

--
Wes Groleau

Pat's Polemics
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett

Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-10-2013 10:31, Tony Hwang wrote:
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.

Your router has been changed from the default to allow these connections
to be initiated from the outside. That's a bit different from the
blanket statement that your "WiFi" can be accessed from the internet
anytime.

Hopefully, you have also had installed appropriate security to keep out
the censored

Hi,
Of course, my router is enterprise class UTM router. Do you have your
own Domain name? WiFi connection only between thermostat or cameras and
router.

On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:59:22 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


I installed a Nest thermostat a few months ago. Its app allows me to
monitor and adjust the furnace and set scheduling from anywhere.
Installation was fairly painless but you MAY need atleast a
three-conductor thermostat cable depending on the brand you buy. The
Nest thermostat is a computer so it needs two power wires, and then
the extra heat wire going back to the furnace. My old thermostat was a
typical old school two-wire mercury switch type so I had to run a new
3 conductor cable through a couple walls.

Something you may not have even thought about are the extra
possibilities that a modern thermostat might give you such as
monitoring energy and /or gas consumption. I had heard that Nest
supposedly provided some daily data but I quickly found they DO NOT
currently give you detailed start and runtime data. The bloody
thermostat sends this data to Nest and all they give out is a monthly
email telling me how many stupid green leafs I've earned. There is a
daily bargraph showing approximate start times (but no runtime), and a
daily total to the nearest quarter-hour.Inaccurate data is useless
data to me.

To interface my furnace to my existing smarthome system I ended up
installing a relay on the gas valve to signal to the smarthome stuff
that the furnace is on or off. I get an email now from my furnace on
each event! I'm able to enter this into a spreadsheet which gives me
total daily runtime and other nerdy stuff that most people probably
aren't interested in.

Sooooo, shop around and see which ones come with a phone app and then
do some further reading to find out what other features it may offer
you. The Nest thermostat has many advanced features, most of which
I've turned off, and it's very pricey. You will have to balance the
options against what you're willing to shell out.


Keep us informed.

TheBornLoSer wrote:
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:59:22 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


I installed a Nest thermostat a few months ago. Its app allows me to
monitor and adjust the furnace and set scheduling from anywhere.
Installation was fairly painless but you MAY need atleast a
three-conductor thermostat cable depending on the brand you buy. The
Nest thermostat is a computer so it needs two power wires, and then
the extra heat wire going back to the furnace. My old thermostat was a
typical old school two-wire mercury switch type so I had to run a new
3 conductor cable through a couple walls.

Something you may not have even thought about are the extra
possibilities that a modern thermostat might give you such as
monitoring energy and /or gas consumption. I had heard that Nest
supposedly provided some daily data but I quickly found they DO NOT
currently give you detailed start and runtime data. The bloody
thermostat sends this data to Nest and all they give out is a monthly
email telling me how many stupid green leafs I've earned. There is a
daily bargraph showing approximate start times (but no runtime), and a
daily total to the nearest quarter-hour.Inaccurate data is useless
data to me.

To interface my furnace to my existing smarthome system I ended up
installing a relay on the gas valve to signal to the smarthome stuff
that the furnace is on or off. I get an email now from my furnace on
each event! I'm able to enter this into a spreadsheet which gives me
total daily runtime and other nerdy stuff that most people probably
aren't interested in.

Sooooo, shop around and see which ones come with a phone app and then
do some further reading to find out what other features it may offer
you. The Nest thermostat has many advanced features, most of which
I've turned off, and it's very pricey. You will have to balance the
options against what you're willing to shell out.


Keep us informed.

Hi,
Does Nest have emergency fall back setting? Like when RTA temp. on your
furnace is falling below dangerous freezing point for some malfunction,
can it fall back to safe temp setting automatically?
In another word, does it have RTA temp sensor signal into the 'stat?
My Honeywell WiFi 'stat has that as an option and it was a matter of
drilling little hole on the RTA plenum and install sensor and run a wire
to the interface control module.

On 11/10/2013 1:35 PM, TheBornLoSer wrote:
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:59:22 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


I installed a Nest thermostat a few months ago. Its app allows me to
monitor and adjust the furnace and set scheduling from anywhere.
Installation was fairly painless but you MAY need atleast a
three-conductor thermostat cable depending on the brand you buy. The
Nest thermostat is a computer so it needs two power wires, and then
the extra heat wire going back to the furnace. My old thermostat was a
typical old school two-wire mercury switch type so I had to run a new
3 conductor cable through a couple walls.

Something you may not have even thought about are the extra
possibilities that a modern thermostat might give you such as
monitoring energy and /or gas consumption. I had heard that Nest
supposedly provided some daily data but I quickly found they DO NOT
currently give you detailed start and runtime data. The bloody
thermostat sends this data to Nest and all they give out is a monthly
email telling me how many stupid green leafs I've earned. There is a
daily bargraph showing approximate start times (but no runtime), and a
daily total to the nearest quarter-hour.Inaccurate data is useless
data to me.

To interface my furnace to my existing smarthome system I ended up
installing a relay on the gas valve to signal to the smarthome stuff
that the furnace is on or off. I get an email now from my furnace on
each event! I'm able to enter this into a spreadsheet which gives me
total daily runtime and other nerdy stuff that most people probably
aren't interested in.

Sooooo, shop around and see which ones come with a phone app and then
do some further reading to find out what other features it may offer
you. The Nest thermostat has many advanced features, most of which
I've turned off, and it's very pricey. You will have to balance the
options against what you're willing to shell out.


Keep us informed.

Measuring stuff is as good a hobby as any.
I'm sure you can come up with situations where it might be important
to monitor remotely in real time.

But for most of us, it's just a potentially expensive hobby.

IMHO, the only reason to have data is if you're gonna use it to make
tomorrow better by changing something.

Most of us live uneventful/predictable lives. What happens today
is gonna be very much like what happened yesterday. On average, our
existence is average.

You probably have dials on your gas meter and your electric meter
that you can watch go around.
If you've done the math and have installed the cost-effective
weatherization,
what more can you do?

You don't need real-time monitoring to know that taking shorter
and colder showers costs less money.
You don't need real-time monitoring to know that turning down
the thermostat saves heating $$$.

So, use less to the greatest extent you can stand. Not much more to be
done.

I programmed a PALM Pilot to watch the flashing light on the smart
electric utility meter. I can see a graph of usage history.
It was fun for about a week to watch the water heater go on and off.
And see every time I ran the microwave to heat up coffee. But it
hasn't changed my coffee habits one bit.
Twice, when I bothered to look at the readout, I went searching for
unintended power use and found the attic lights on. Saved me nowhere
near the cost of the monitoring system.

I programmed another PALM to monitor the furnace fan. I can graph
gas usage (the translation from fan to gas is straightforward math)
in real time. Once, I could tell that the furnace was malfunctioning,
but only after I felt cold and went to check.

One interesting thing I found was that the thermal time constant
of the house was very long. Temperature setback for a few hours
at a time saved almost nothing. Took damn near as many BTU's
to reheat the house as were saved by the setback.
YMMV if everybody in the house stays away for long periods of time.

Bottom line is that people should reduce ALL their energy usage
to the minimum they can tolerate.
If checking the consumption of the fridge causes you to buy a new
fridge...it did for me...then do it. Further monitoring is not helpful.

Most of us already have all the monitoring tools we need sitting
right outside the house on the utility meters.

Don't monitor anything if the result won't change the future.

But it can be a fun hobby...till you get bored and move on.

Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-10-2013 10:31, Tony Hwang wrote:
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.

Your router has been changed from the default to allow these connections
to be initiated from the outside. That's a bit different from the
blanket statement that your "WiFi" can be accessed from the internet
anytime.

Hopefully, you have also had installed appropriate security to keep out
the censored

Hmmm,
Of course. Also my router is enterprise class

On 11-10-2013 15:40, Tony Hwang wrote:
Of course, my router is enterprise class UTM router. Do you have your
own Domain name? WiFi connection only between thermostat or cameras and
router.

Apparently you understand something about routers and WiFi.
So why do you take exception to my trying to educate someone
who doesn't?

--
Wes Groleau

€œA man with an experience is never
at the mercy of a man with an argument.€�
€” Ron Allen

OK, I can see that a thermostat that allows me to monitor the temperature in my house from anywhere in the world will save me a few sleepless nights not knowing if I'm going to come home to a frozen house because the furnace died while I was away. Ditto if I had hot water heat and the house froze because the circulating pump stopped circulating.

But, what on this Good Earth would anyone use an internet ready thermostat for besides that?

That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75 degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what more would you do with an internet ready thermostat?

I guess what prompted this post was that I recently found out that an upgrade to the Tekmar 265 boiler control on my heating system has been introduced by Tekmar. The new 275 boiler control has the option of being able to read it's operating parameters and program it via the internet from anywhere in the world. And, I just couldn't understand why that would ever be an important enough feature to entice someone into buying it versus the less expensive 265 boiler control. That is, why would something like this be a selling point? To me, it's about as important as being able to control the temperature in my computerized refrigerator from anywhere in the world. Why would I even want to be able to do that? What is wrong with leaving the fridge alone until I get home and then turning the thermostat dial up or down myself?

Would someone please explain what I'm missing here?

In article ,
nestork wrote:


I just never had anything like that, and I expect the reason I never
took interest in it was that I could never see the point in it.

I think I found a cheaper solution to my desire to monitor temperature.
I have an older MacBook with a cracked screen but functioning camera. I
think I'll just set it up with a program that lets it function as an
always-on security program and point the camera at the thermometer on
the thermostat.
--
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.²
‹ Aaron Levenstein

On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:15:10 AM UTC-5, nestork wrote:
OK, I can see that a thermostat that allows me to monitor the

temperature in my house from anywhere in the world will save me a few

sleepless nights not knowing if I'm going to come home to a frozen house

because the furnace died while I was away. Ditto if I had hot water

heat and the house froze because the circulating pump stopped

circulating.



But, what on this Good Earth would anyone use an internet ready

thermostat for besides that?



That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75

degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what more

would you do with an internet ready thermostat?



I just never had anything like that, and I expect the reason I never

took interest in it was that I could never see the point in it.



One very nice thing is that you can change the temperature
from anywhere. If you're going away on a trip in winter, you
can set the temp to 50F. When you land at the airport, you
can turn it up to 70F and the house will be warm when you get
home. Or if you leave and forget to turn it down, you can
check and do it remotely. Or if you're in business, have a
varying schedule and aren't sure when you'll be back, you
could keep the temp set low, then turn it up when headed back.

Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-10-2013 15:40, Tony Hwang wrote:
Of course, my router is enterprise class UTM router. Do you have your
own Domain name? WiFi connection only between thermostat or cameras and
router.

Apparently you understand something about routers and WiFi.
So why do you take exception to my trying to educate someone
who doesn't?

Hmm,
Little knowledge is very dangerous.

On 11/11/2013 01:15 AM, nestork wrote:

OK, I can see that a thermostat that allows me to monitor the
temperature in my house from anywhere in the world will save me a few
sleepless nights not knowing if I'm going to come home to a frozen house
because the furnace died while I was away. Ditto if I had hot water
heat and the house froze because the circulating pump stopped
circulating.

But, what on this Good Earth would anyone use an internet ready
thermostat for besides that?

That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75
degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what more
would you do with an internet ready thermostat?

I'd use it while at home, for remote control.

I just never had anything like that, and I expect the reason I never
took interest in it was that I could never see the point in it.






--
44 days until The winter celebration (Wednesday December 25, 2013 12:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us

"The believer is happy; the doubter is wise." [Hungarian proverb]

On 11/11/2013 6:42 AM, wrote:
On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:15:10 AM UTC-5, nestork wrote:
OK, I can see that a thermostat that allows me to monitor the

temperature in my house from anywhere in the world will save me a few

sleepless nights not knowing if I'm going to come home to a frozen house

because the furnace died while I was away. Ditto if I had hot water

heat and the house froze because the circulating pump stopped

circulating.



But, what on this Good Earth would anyone use an internet ready

thermostat for besides that?



That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75

degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what more

would you do with an internet ready thermostat?



I just never had anything like that, and I expect the reason I never

took interest in it was that I could never see the point in it.



One very nice thing is that you can change the temperature
from anywhere. If you're going away on a trip in winter, you
can set the temp to 50F. When you land at the airport, you
can turn it up to 70F and the house will be warm when you get
home. Or if you leave and forget to turn it down, you can
check and do it remotely. Or if you're in business, have a
varying schedule and aren't sure when you'll be back, you
could keep the temp set low, then turn it up when headed back.

I'm all for convenience, but are you really unable to endure
the 10 minutes it takes the air in your house to reach 70F?

Maybe it's just me. I think that most people shouldn't have
cellphones. It's just an excuse to go thru life without a plan
and the attention span of a gnat
wasting my time waiting on you. Calling to tell me you'll be
late is no less wasteful of my time. Be there when you said
you would, and you won't need a damn cellphone.

On 11-11-2013, 02:15, nestork wrote:
That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75
degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what more
would you do with an internet ready thermostat?

You can also change the setting remotely.

Which you will need to do A LOT to reduce utility bills enough
to pay for the beast within a couple of years.

--
Wes Groleau

Armchair Activism: http://www.breakthechain.org/armchair.html

On 11/10/2013 9:31 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 14:08, Meanie wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and
some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain
remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to
the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily. The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which
has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

No. IF the router doesn't block the access (as most DO) and IF the
device is capable of responding to such attempts, only then can you
access the device from outside the LAN.

Hi,
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.
c

Tony, I agree. I own my name (dongares.com) and several other domains
and if you point your browser to http://www.dongares.com/weather.htm you
can see the temperature in my home and also the weather outside. I do
have that URL redirected at this time but it will still get you there.

Don

IGot2P wrote:
On 11/10/2013 9:31 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 14:08, Meanie wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and
some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain
remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if
they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to
the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily. The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which
has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

No. IF the router doesn't block the access (as most DO) and IF the
device is capable of responding to such attempts, only then can you
access the device from outside the LAN.

Hi,
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.
c

Tony, I agree. I own my name (dongares.com) and several other domains
and if you point your browser to http://www.dongares.com/weather.htm you
can see the temperature in my home and also the weather outside. I do
have that URL redirected at this time but it will still get you there.

Don

Hi,
WX station? I have a Davis one.

On 11/12/2013 10:16 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
IGot2P wrote:
On 11/10/2013 9:31 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 14:08, Meanie wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and
some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain
remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if
they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to
the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily.
The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which
has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP
and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow
anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

No. IF the router doesn't block the access (as most DO) and IF the
device is capable of responding to such attempts, only then can you
access the device from outside the LAN.

Hi,
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.
c

Tony, I agree. I own my name (dongares.com) and several other domains
and if you point your browser to http://www.dongares.com/weather.htm you
can see the temperature in my home and also the weather outside. I do
have that URL redirected at this time but it will still get you there.

Don

Hi,
WX station? I have a Davis one.


Nope, La Crosse Technology. Actually, I have two identical ones just in
case something goes bad but so far the second one is still in the box. I
also have live cameras pointed at the house from a detached building and
several motion activated cameras in the house that upload via ftp and
also email me if motion is detected. Of course they are only on when we
are gone.

IGot2P wrote:
On 11/12/2013 10:16 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
IGot2P wrote:
On 11/10/2013 9:31 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 14:08, Meanie wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:49 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-09-2013, 08:14, Meanie wrote:
No, it's connected via WiFi. The same as my garage door opener and
some
lighting in my house. Technically, WiFi uses the internet to gain
remote
access but it's still WiFi. All WiFi can be accessed by anyone if
they
know the code/password via the internet.

Not so. The code/password/key/etc. authenticates the WiFi device to
the
access point (AP), often part of the router, but not necessarily.
The
internet side of the access point is reached by an IP address, which
has
no password. There may be, however, something else BETWEEN the AP
and
the internet that restricts access in some other way.
Usually, this is the router and most home routers don't allow
anything
outside to initiate a connection.

But all can still be accessed via internet if the capability arises.

No. IF the router doesn't block the access (as most DO) and IF the
device is capable of responding to such attempts, only then can you
access the device from outside the LAN.

Hi,
Between thermostat and router is not a problem. Accessing the info on
temp. and humidity from any where in the world. Ideally best to have a
domain own name registered via DDNS. I can even see my house inside out
thru surveillance cameras from any where. When looking for one make
sure
supplier [rovide DDNS for your use.
c

Tony, I agree. I own my name (dongares.com) and several other domains
and if you point your browser to http://www.dongares.com/weather.htm you
can see the temperature in my home and also the weather outside. I do
have that URL redirected at this time but it will still get you there.

Don

Hi,
WX station? I have a Davis one.


Nope, La Crosse Technology. Actually, I have two identical ones just in
case something goes bad but so far the second one is still in the box. I
also have live cameras pointed at the house from a detached building and
several motion activated cameras in the house that upload via ftp and
also email me if motion is detected. Of course they are only on when we
are gone.

Hi,
I have two outdoor and two indoor cameras all Vivotech ones.
Just set it up and ready when needed.

On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:27:43 -0500, Meanie
wrote:

On 11/8/2013 4:59 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
Do most of the Wifi thermometers (NOT thermostats) have the ability to
access them from WAY for away. I am looking for a (relatively) cheap way
to keep tabs on the temp in my house while I am traveling. Can't tell
from just the descriptions on Amazon if they work like that and whether
I need to have a computer handy or if they can be accessed directly from
the router/modem.


Get one which uses an app for your smartphone, um, that is, if you use a
smartphone, otherwise, you will need a computer. I do believe most, if
not all, do use apps, but double check the one you purchase. The name
brands will have apps.

I have a Lennox furnace/ac system which came with it's own touch screen
wifi thermostat/thermometer. I am able to control the temp and program
from ANYWHERE I can get connection.

We bought a Nest for our other house while it was vacant. It works
really well and is fairly simple to install on pretty much any system.
it doesn't meet the OP's requirement of "not a thermostat", though.

Hi,

If you are still looking for WiFi thermometer with access from "away" - have a look there a href="http://www.wispher.net/wisphert.php"WiSpherT/a

Cheers,

WiSpher

Hi,

If yiu are still looking for WiFi theremometer with access from "away" please have a look the http://www.wispher.net/wisphert.php

Cheers,

WiSpher

Hi,

If you are still looking for the WiFi thermometer with access from "away" please have a look the http://www.wispher.net/wisphert.php

Cheers,
WiSpher

On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:55:06 PM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 11/11/2013 6:42 AM, wrote:

On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:15:10 AM UTC-5, nestork wrote:

OK, I can see that a thermostat that allows me to monitor the



temperature in my house from anywhere in the world will save me a few



sleepless nights not knowing if I'm going to come home to a frozen house



because the furnace died while I was away. Ditto if I had hot water



heat and the house froze because the circulating pump stopped



circulating.







But, what on this Good Earth would anyone use an internet ready



thermostat for besides that?







That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75



degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what more



would you do with an internet ready thermostat?







I just never had anything like that, and I expect the reason I never



took interest in it was that I could never see the point in it.







One very nice thing is that you can change the temperature

from anywhere. If you're going away on a trip in winter, you

can set the temp to 50F. When you land at the airport, you

can turn it up to 70F and the house will be warm when you get

home. Or if you leave and forget to turn it down, you can

check and do it remotely. Or if you're in business, have a

varying schedule and aren't sure when you'll be back, you

could keep the temp set low, then turn it up when headed back.



I'm all for convenience, but are you really unable to endure

the 10 minutes it takes the air in your house to reach 70F?



Maybe it's just me. I think that most people shouldn't have

cellphones. It's just an excuse to go thru life without a plan

and the attention span of a gnat

wasting my time waiting on you. Calling to tell me you'll be

late is no less wasteful of my time. Be there when you said

you would, and you won't need a damn cellphone.


Heh, I know it's a post from last year, but I just happened to
see this. IDK how big your house or furnace are, but you sure
can't raise the typical house from 50F to 70F in 10 mins in
winter. And if you can, you have a very oversized furnace,
which isn't good. It would take more than two hours to raise
mine that much and I think that's typical.

wrote:
Hi,

If you are still looking for WiFi thermometer with access from "away" - have a look there a href="http://www.wispher.net/wisphert.php"WiSpherT/a

Cheers,

WiSpher

Hmm,
There is Eco Bee also.

trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:55:06 PM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 11/11/2013 6:42 AM, wrote:

On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:15:10 AM UTC-5, nestork wrote:

OK, I can see that a thermostat that allows me to monitor the



temperature in my house from anywhere in the world will save me a
few



sleepless nights not knowing if I'm going to come home to a frozen
house



because the furnace died while I was away. Ditto if I had hot
water



heat and the house froze because the circulating pump stopped



circulating.







But, what on this Good Earth would anyone use an internet ready



thermostat for besides that?







That is, once you find out that the temperature in your house is 75



degrees F, so that you're confident that nothing is wrong, what
more



would you do with an internet ready thermostat?







I just never had anything like that, and I expect the reason I
never



took interest in it was that I could never see the point in it.







One very nice thing is that you can change the temperature

from anywhere. If you're going away on a trip in winter, you

can set the temp to 50F. When you land at the airport, you

can turn it up to 70F and the house will be warm when you get

home. Or if you leave and forget to turn it down, you can

check and do it remotely. Or if you're in business, have a

varying schedule and aren't sure when you'll be back, you

could keep the temp set low, then turn it up when headed back.



I'm all for convenience, but are you really unable to endure

the 10 minutes it takes the air in your house to reach 70F?



Maybe it's just me. I think that most people shouldn't have

cellphones. It's just an excuse to go thru life without a plan

and the attention span of a gnat

wasting my time waiting on you. Calling to tell me you'll be

late is no less wasteful of my time. Be there when you said

you would, and you won't need a damn cellphone.


Heh, I know it's a post from last year, but I just happened to
see this. IDK how big your house or furnace are, but you sure
can't raise the typical house from 50F to 70F in 10 mins in
winter. And if you can, you have a very oversized furnace,
which isn't good. It would take more than two hours to raise
mine that much and I think that's typical.

I can raise mine under ideal conditions from 35°F to 80°F in under 10
minutes ... BUT I have a woodburning stove sized for the final size of our
new house , and only about 30% of the final structure is currently built .
I don't expect that quick of temp rise when we're finished , but that's
partly because of the thermal storage mass that will be incorporated into
the final structure .
--
Snag