a neighbor of mine, has a shed that is powered by a extension cord (about
50')taped along the top of a 3' metal fence. I told him that it was not
legal, he asked me how to correct it and I told to run uf-b wire under ground
next to the fence. He asked me if he could put plugs on the end of the uf-b. I
told him I did not know ? does any one know if the current way is legal? ,and
if not what is the easiest way to fix?

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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:44:01 +0000, kvs
wrote:

a neighbor of mine, has a shed that is powered by a extension cord (about
50')taped along the top of a 3' metal fence. I told him that it was not
legal, he asked me how to correct it and I told to run uf-b wire under ground
next to the fence. He asked me if he could put plugs on the end of the uf-b. I
told him I did not know ? does any one know if the current way is legal? ,and
if not what is the easiest way to fix?

You told him something is not legal, then you ask what is legal? Got
it. Try the alt.home.repair group on Usenet.

On Apr 17, 5:01*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:44:01 +0000, kvs

wrote:
a neighbor of mine, has a shed that is powered by a extension cord (about
50')taped along the top of *a 3' metal fence. *I told him that it was not
legal, he asked me how to correct it and I told to run uf-b wire under ground
next to the fence. He asked me if he could put plugs on the end of the uf-b. I
told him I did not know ? *does any one know if the current way is legal? ,and
if not what is the easiest way to fix?

You told him something is not legal, then you ask what is legal? *Got
it. *Try the alt.home.repair group on Usenet.

Why not do it correctly???

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:37:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:01*pm, Oren wrote:

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:44:01 +0000, kvs



wrote:

a neighbor of mine, has a shed that is powered by a extension cord (about

50')taped along the top of *a 3' metal fence. *I told him that it was not

legal, he asked me how to correct it and I told to run uf-b wire under ground

next to the fence. He asked me if he could put plugs on the end of the uf-b. I

told him I did not know ? *does any one know if the current way is legal? ,and

if not what is the easiest way to fix?



You told him something is not legal, then you ask what is legal? *Got

it. *Try the alt.home.repair group on Usenet.



Why not do it correctly???

Breaker boxes permits and bribery fees. Must be the poo lice states. Just dig a trench 18" x 2" x 50' with a 2" spade(if you can find one) not at homedepot. probably 3-4". Drop the extension cord in the ground with a few feet sticking out on each side.

Boston is full cold hearted, loyalist, drunken religious retrobates. We need to kick the *******s out of the country like my ancestors did in 1776. They should of torched Harvard when the British left.
Tar and feather a piece of **** senator today. I demand the torture device out of my back the CIA stuck there in 1982.

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You told him something is not legal, then you ask what is legal? Got
it. Try the alt.home.repair group on Usenet.

Why not do it correctly???

What is it with this web-site? They post stuff here and take posts from
here and place them on their site.

Dave M.

On Apr 17, 5:44*pm, kvs
wrote:
*a neighbor of mine, has a shed that is powered by a extension cord (about
50')taped along the top of *a 3' metal fence. *I told him that it was not
legal,

Extension cords are not permitted as a substitute for
permanent wiring. If he was powering some Xmas lights
on the shed, it would be OK. If he's using it to power
lights and/or receptacles that are permanently mounted in the shed,
then it's not code compliant.



he asked me how to correct it and I told to run uf-b wire under ground
next to the fence. He asked me if he could put plugs on the end of the uf-b. I
told him I did not know ?

The fact that he has to ask that question shows that he's in way
over his head. I suggest calling an electrician.





*does any one know if the current way is legal? ,and
if not what is the easiest way to fix?

By gosh, I think he's got it!
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On Apr 17, 5:44*pm, kvs
wrote:
*a neighbor of mine, has a shed that is powered by a extension cord (about
50')taped along the top of *a 3' metal fence. *I told him that it was not
legal, he asked me how to correct it and I told to run uf-b wire under ground
next to the fence. He asked me if he could put plugs on the end of the uf-b. I
told him I did not know ? *does any one know if the current way is legal? ,and
if not what is the easiest way to fix?

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Everything that follows should be considered as generic advice. All
local codes and regulations should be adhered to.

You can not just put a plug on the end of the wire, but that is not
the only thing that needs to be considered.

You need to come out of the main house using the proper method and you
need to come into the shed in the proper manner (junction boxes, romex
connectors, perhaps a sleeve through the block, etc.)

You need a disconnect inside the shed that kills power to the entire
shed. For a simple 115V setup, a properly rated light switch should be
OK, but it should be as close to the incoming power as possible. I'm
not sure if you are allowed to use a GFCI receptacle and it's test
button as the disconnect. That would be something to look into as it
addresses the "plug on the end of the wire" issue.

You need to be concerned with the depth that you bury the wire
depending on whether it's inside conduit or not.

Any receptacles need to be GFCI protected. You can make it even safer
by protecting the entire shed with a GFCI breaker or feeding the shed
from the load side of a GFCI receptacle. I feed my shed from a GFCI
receptacle mounted on the underside of my raised deck. I know it works
because I had a light fixture on the outside of my shed that took on
water and popped the GFCI. The disconnect switch inside the shed
allowed me to kill the power inside the shed and then reset the GFCI
as a troubleshooting method. Since the GFCI held, I knew my
underground wiring was good and that the problem was related to the
wiring after it entered the shed.

There are lots of codes to follow to make this installation safe and
legal. If your neighbor isn't sure about how to go about, then he
should contact an expert, either an electrician or the municipality
that enforces the code.

If he thought that an extension cord tape to a metal fence was OK,
then he has a lot to learn. He should also unplugged the extension
cord immediately before something goes terribly wrong.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
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You told him something is not legal, then you ask what is
legal? Got
it. Try the alt.home.repair group on Usenet.

Why not do it correctly???

Like maybe get a usenet provider, and reader?
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:50:52 -0500, "ChairMan"
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
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You told him something is not legal, then you ask what is
legal? Got
it. Try the alt.home.repair group on Usenet.

Why not do it correctly???

Like maybe get a usenet provider, and reader?
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Story of Jesus snipped

Like adding quote fix to OE so that you don't top post and
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PKB

He was told how to fix it years ago. Perhaps he should get a real
"reader" that functions the way Usenet was intended.

Funny when he claims somebody gave wrong attributions to him :-\

I have never seen an electric powered shed. What will the think of next?

As far as I know, extension cords are legal in all 50 states...


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On Apr 18, 5:18*pm, (Larry W) wrote:
I have never seen an electric powered shed. What will the think of next?

As far as I know, extension cords are legal in all 50 states...

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Extension cords are legal in all 50 states for the use for
which they are intended. And that use doesn't include
running permanent power to a shed.






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On 4/18/13 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Apr 18, 5:18 pm, (Larry W) wrote:
I have never seen an electric powered shed. What will the think of next?

As far as I know, extension cords are legal in all 50 states...

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Extension cords are legal in all 50 states for the use for
which they are intended. And that use doesn't include
running permanent power to a shed.

There is nothing more permanent than temporary.

Chicago has registration, E.C.O.I.D. card, and stiff penalties for use in a
crime. Unless you're a high ranking democrat, and then you can carry
concealed high capacity 12 gage extension cord with multiple outlets, and
long length. You can also carry concealed short 12 gage cords with no
internal safeties or GFCI.

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I have never seen an electric powered shed. What will the think of next?

As far as I know, extension cords are legal in all 50 states...


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On Apr 18, 3:52*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Chicago has registration, E.C.O.I.D. card, and stiff penalties for use in a
crime. Unless you're a high ranking democrat, and then you can carry
concealed high capacity 12 gage extension cord with multiple outlets, and
long length. You can also carry concealed short 12 gage cords with no
internal safeties or GFCI.

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I have never seen an electric powered shed. What will the think of next?

As far as I know, extension cords are legal in all 50 states...

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* * *with the average voter. * * * * * * * * (Winston Churchill)

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I'm not sure I understand the problem. The extension cord is attached
to a metal fence, so the fence should be grounded. As long as the
tape being used is black electrical tape, then it should be good to
go. This is the same logic used in Washington DC. Black is being
used and nobody is grounded...LOL

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT), Robin Ellzey
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I'm not sure I understand the problem. The extension cord is attached
to a metal fence, so the fence should be grounded. As long as the
tape being used is black electrical tape, then it should be good to
go. This is the same logic used in Washington DC. Black is being
used and nobody is grounded...LOL

Welcome to AHR!

Dean Hoffman " wrote:
On 4/18/13 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Apr 18, 5:18 pm, (Larry W) wrote:
I have never seen an electric powered shed. What will the think of next?

As far as I know, extension cords are legal in all 50 states...

--

Extension cords are legal in all 50 states for the use for
which they are intended. And that use doesn't include
running permanent power to a shed.

There is nothing more permanent than temporary.

As I often say after a quick fix "it's only temporary...unless it works."

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

There is nothing more permanent than temporary.

As I often say after a quick fix "it's only temporary...unless it works."

...."it looks good from my house!"

I was at a home depot when a customer said he wanted to run a orange
16 gauge extension cord down the center of his driveway in the
expansion crack......

The salesperson was befudled by the question so I pointed out that not
only are extension cords not designed for permanent use but when the
driveway moves the insulation could be damaged walking down the
driveway could result in electrocution. The fellow had 2 kids and
persumably his wife in tow.

she was ripping him new body orfices as I walked away you could kill
me or the kids. he was going to use the power for a above ground pool

The UV rays in sunlight dry and crack plastics. Electrical tape dries
rapidly, in sunlight. The situation is just asking for exposed, charged wire
poking through the insullation.

Sadly, I guess once you go black electrical tape, you never go back.
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I'm not sure I understand the problem. The extension cord is attached
to a metal fence, so the fence should be grounded. As long as the
tape being used is black electrical tape, then it should be good to
go. This is the same logic used in Washington DC. Black is being
used and nobody is grounded...LOL

On Apr 18, 10:55*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
The UV rays in sunlight dry and crack plastics. Electrical tape dries
rapidly, in sunlight. The situation is just asking for exposed, charged wire
poking through the insullation.

In addition to the above, just because it's a metal fence
doesn't necessarily mean it's well grounded. In addition
to exactly how it's planted in the ground, who knows how the
fence is assembled? For example the piece of metal
the cord is sitting on may not be well connected to
the part of the fence in the ground, they could use some plastic
component to make the connection, etc.

On a more basic level it's clearly not code compliant.

Go ahead, tape your extension cord along your metal fence.

The plaintiff's attorney is going to love you...and his new yacht!

On Apr 18, 7:55*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
The UV rays in sunlight dry and crack plastics. Electrical tape dries
rapidly, in sunlight. The situation is just asking for exposed, charged wire
poking through the insullation.

Sadly, I guess once you go black electrical tape, you never go back.
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I'm not sure I understand the problem. *The extension cord is attached
to a metal fence, so the fence should be grounded. *As long as the
tape being used is black electrical tape, then it should be good to
go. *This is the same logic used in Washington DC. *Black is being
used and nobody is grounded...LOL

And 'being grounded" does not mean a better ground won't be found if
you touch it.

Harry K

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