The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In
favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)

Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of
gun control.

A few here evidently need shooting.
Be interesting to here their views after that.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:48:10 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In
favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)


What a maroon, She is a gun advocate, owns guns herself. Her husband
just recently bought a gun at Walmart in Arizona.

Go read her testimony this morning in the Senate hearings. And then
what her husband testified to.

Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of
gun control.


Cite?

A few here evidently need shooting.

Bring your ass over here and man up.

Be interesting to here their views after that.

Maroon.

On 1/30/2013 1:56 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:48:10 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In
favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)


What a maroon, She is a gun advocate, owns guns herself. Her husband
just recently bought a gun at Walmart in Arizona.

Go read her testimony this morning in the Senate hearings. And then
what her husband testified to.

Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of
gun control.


Cite?

A few here evidently need shooting.

Bring your ass over here and man up.


If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'
Let him see what he is missing.

Frank wrote in :

If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'

Good idea -- he could hold the target.

On 1/30/2013 3:24 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
Frank wrote in :

If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'

Good idea -- he could hold the target.


I had a friend and coworker visit from the UK and took him shooting.
He loved it.
Even when I did not tell him properly how to hold a Glock and he raked
his hand, He continued to shoot while I found a band-aid.
What thrilled him most was a target I had with Michael Moore's face on
it. He shot it up to take back to one of his coworkers who was a
Michael Moore fan.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:48:10 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In
favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)

Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of
gun control.


Yeah and I'm not proud of that. It also seems to work the same way
for adding stop lights or stop signs... when enough fatalities occur,
then they change the road sign/light (well at least in Texas).

On 1/30/2013 2:24 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
Frank wrote in :

If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'

Good idea -- he could hold the target.


You make the mistake of believing that anyone in favor of the right of
the citizenry to be armed wants to harm or kill anyone who disagrees
with them. I would never want to see Cousin Harry harmed over what he
believes. Even though he is not an American, I believe in freedom of
speech for everyone, even Harry. Besides, if Harry went away, what could
we do for entertainment? ^_^

TDD

If only we could figure out a way to let responsible gun owners have their guns and keep them out of the hands of the gangstas and the lunatics.

Someday maybe technology will provide a solution to this ongoing problem.

"harry" wrote in message
...
The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In
favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)

Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of
gun control.

A few here evidently need shooting.
Be interesting to here their views after that.

And I know a bunch of people who went they other way
They shot someone else and affirmed their belief in their right to
self-defense.

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:48:10 AM UTC-8, harry wrote:
The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In

favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)



Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of

gun control.



A few here evidently need shooting.

Be interesting to here their views after that.

Where there is an ill there is a way, who needs guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC3PjJoi-yY

wrote:

Where there is an ill there is a way, who needs guns.


"Need" is not the word to use when talking about guns; "WANT" is the only
word that counts.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:02:07 -0500, Frank
wrote:

On 1/30/2013 1:56 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:48:10 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

The Giffords woman that got shot was on TV briefly over here. In
favour of gun controls. (Surprise, surprise)


What a maroon, She is a gun advocate, owns guns herself. Her husband
just recently bought a gun at Walmart in Arizona.

Go read her testimony this morning in the Senate hearings. And then
what her husband testified to.

Americans/their kids have to get shot, before they are in favour of
gun control.


Cite?

A few here evidently need shooting.

Bring your ass over here and man up.


If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'
Let him see what he is missing.

....but don't miss.

Frank wrote:

If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'

Just don't show up at this guy's doorstep...

http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d...9/original.jpg

==================================

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...use-shot-dead/

Friends say a man in his early 20s was picking up one more of their
group to go skating, when his GPS took him to the wrong house and the
home-owner allegedly shot him dead, later saying he feared a home
invasion.

According to friends of Rodrigo Diaz, they were all going ice skating.
Diaz was driving the car, and they were going to pick up one more
skater.

They pulled into a driveway, which their GPS -- at least, according to
one of the friends -- told them was their destination.

Then, as WSB-TV Atlanta explains, this tale took a troubling turn.

According to Yeson Jimenez, 15, one of the passengers, Diaz pulled into
a driveway; then 69-year-old Phillip Sailors peered out of a window of
the house.

==============
http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d...9/original.jpg
Mug shot of Phillip Sailors, the trigger-happy, itch'en-for-a-kill'en
law-abiding gun owner.
(or former law-abiding gun-owner).
==============

He allegedly came out, went back inside, then emerged again, firing a
gun into the air.

Jimenez says Sailors said nothing to them but "Shut up!"

Jimenez insists they tried to drive away and that as they did, Sailors
fired his .22 gun and shot Diaz fatally in the head.

Sailors has been charged with murder with malice.

Lilburn, Ga., Police Chief Bruce Hedley told The Atlanta
Journal-Constitution: "At this point we have established probable cause
to charge Mr. Sailors."

Sailors' lawyer, Michael Puglise, told the Journal-Constitution: "He is
very distraught over the loss of life from the defense of his home. This
incident happened late in the evening hours when he was home with his
wife and he assumed it was a home invasion and he maintains his
innocence."

Among the unknowns is whether the GPS was simply programmed to the wrong
address or whether it might have been in some way faulty.

Another question that might arise in some minds is that if Sailors was,
indeed, defending himself, how is it that he allegedly shot a man who
was reportedly driving away from his house?

===========================

Now, which company is going to get their ass sued off in civial court
for "wrongful death" ?

Garmin, or TomTom?

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:03:39 +0000, nestork
wrote:


If only we could figure out a way to let responsible gun owners have
their guns and keep them out of the hands of the gangstas and the
lunatics.


Think bullets.

Someday maybe technology will provide a solution to this ongoing
problem.

Think MORE bullets. What is the exact problem in your concerns?

The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved

On Jan 30, 8:35*pm, bob haller wrote:
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved

If the community decision is to have armed guards in schools...
why not have the staff & parents of the kids pay for them?

btw Couminbine High School had a deputy sheriff on duty who is
credited (investigate the shooting incident timeline) with saving a
number of injured & uninjured people during the incident.

Why is the solution often offered... tax an uninvolved 3rd party for
benefit of another?

"bob haller" wrote in message
...
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.


So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likely be
better behaved

Much like the Poll Taxes the tax you recommend would not pass constitutional
muster.

On Jan 31, 1:28*am, Man with gun wrote:
Frank wrote:
If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'

Just don't show up at this guy's doorstep...

http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d...9/original.jpg

==================================

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...edly-follows-g...

Friends say a man in his early 20s was picking up one more of their
group to go skating, when his GPS took him to the wrong house and the
home-owner allegedly shot him dead, later saying he feared a home
invasion.

According to friends of Rodrigo Diaz, they were all going ice skating.
Diaz was driving the car, and they were going to pick up one more
skater.

They pulled into a driveway, which their GPS -- at least, according to
one of the friends -- told them was their destination.

Then, as WSB-TV Atlanta explains, this tale took a troubling turn.

According to Yeson Jimenez, 15, one of the passengers, Diaz pulled into
a driveway; then 69-year-old Phillip Sailors peered out of a window of
the house.

==============http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/01/29/original.jpg
Mug shot of Phillip Sailors, the trigger-happy, itch'en-for-a-kill'en
law-abiding gun owner.
(or former law-abiding gun-owner).
==============

He allegedly came out, went back inside, then emerged again, firing a
gun into the air.

Jimenez says Sailors said nothing to them but "Shut up!"

Jimenez insists they tried to drive away and that as they did, Sailors
fired his .22 gun and shot Diaz fatally in the head.

Sailors has been charged with murder with malice.

Lilburn, Ga., Police Chief Bruce Hedley told The Atlanta
Journal-Constitution: "At this point we have established probable cause
to charge Mr. Sailors."

Sailors' lawyer, Michael Puglise, told the Journal-Constitution: "He is
very distraught over the loss of life from the defense of his home. This
incident happened late in the evening hours when he was home with his
wife and he assumed it was a home invasion and he maintains his
innocence."

Among the unknowns is whether the GPS was simply programmed to the wrong
address or whether it might have been in some way faulty.

Another question that might arise in some minds is that if Sailors was,
indeed, defending himself, how is it that he allegedly shot a man who
was reportedly driving away from his house?

===========================

Now, which company is going to get their ass sued off in civial court
for "wrongful death" ?

Garmin, or TomTom?

Typical paranoid gun owner.
Was watching some Hollywood **** at the time no doubt whilst cuddling
his gun.
It's a mental disease. You can tell it from the rantings of someone
here.

So, you raise fees on the people who don't commit crimes, to pay for
protection from people who do? I guess that's the way the rest of society
works. I pay various property and municipal taxes, so the cops can do thier
job.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"bob haller" wrote in message
...
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved

On Jan 31, 7:49*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
So, you raise fees on the people who don't commit crimes, to pay for
protection from people who do? I guess that's the way the rest of society
works. I pay various property and municipal taxes, so the cops can do thier
job.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org


There is no need to put seperate armed guards in schools.
Teachers are already there and there would be teachers
willing to volunteer to go through training. Pay them an
additional X dollars a year, say $2,000. Instead of paying
$40,000 a year for a security guard, it now costs $2,000
problem solved. It's already being done in TX and FL
and contrary to what the libs would have you believe,
no one is dying....

On Jan 31, 1:57*am, harry wrote:
On Jan 31, 1:28*am, Man with gun wrote:





Frank wrote:
If Harry shows up at your doorstep, take him shooting'

Just don't show up at this guy's doorstep...

http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d...9/original.jpg

==================================

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...edly-follows-g...

Friends say a man in his early 20s was picking up one more of their
group to go skating, when his GPS took him to the wrong house and the
home-owner allegedly shot him dead, later saying he feared a home
invasion.

According to friends of Rodrigo Diaz, they were all going ice skating.
Diaz was driving the car, and they were going to pick up one more
skater.

They pulled into a driveway, which their GPS -- at least, according to
one of the friends -- told them was their destination.

Then, as WSB-TV Atlanta explains, this tale took a troubling turn.

According to Yeson Jimenez, 15, one of the passengers, Diaz pulled into
a driveway; then 69-year-old Phillip Sailors peered out of a window of
the house.

==============http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/01/29/original.jpg
Mug shot of Phillip Sailors, the trigger-happy, itch'en-for-a-kill'en
law-abiding gun owner.
(or former law-abiding gun-owner).
==============

He allegedly came out, went back inside, then emerged again, firing a
gun into the air.

Jimenez says Sailors said nothing to them but "Shut up!"

Jimenez insists they tried to drive away and that as they did, Sailors
fired his .22 gun and shot Diaz fatally in the head.

Sailors has been charged with murder with malice.

Lilburn, Ga., Police Chief Bruce Hedley told The Atlanta
Journal-Constitution: "At this point we have established probable cause
to charge Mr. Sailors."

Sailors' lawyer, Michael Puglise, told the Journal-Constitution: "He is
very distraught over the loss of life from the defense of his home. This
incident happened late in the evening hours when he was home with his
wife and he assumed it was a home invasion and he maintains his
innocence."

Among the unknowns is whether the GPS was simply programmed to the wrong
address or whether it might have been in some way faulty.

Another question that might arise in some minds is that if Sailors was,
indeed, defending himself, how is it that he allegedly shot a man who
was reportedly driving away from his house?

===========================

Now, which company is going to get their ass sued off in civial court
for "wrongful death" ?

Garmin, or TomTom?

Typical paranoid gun owner.
Was watching some Hollywood **** at the time no doubt whilst cuddling
his gun.
It's a mental disease. *You can tell it from the rantings of someone
here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What is missing here are all the hundreds of thousands of
cases where a gun similarly prevented a serious crime from
occuring. Gee, I wonder why?

As for this particular case, I'd wait to see how it turns out
when all the facts and evidence are in. For one thing, it
seems very strange that the teens say the man fired a
warning shot into the air, then shot the driver as the car
was leaving. The act of firing a warning shot suggests
that the man didn't want to needlessly harm anyone.

And as for the eventual facts being totally different, just
look at the George Zimmerman case. Actually, they have
no case and by now it's obvious. Did everyone see the picture
of Z that finally came out about a month ago? The one
that shows his badly beaten face and broken nose?
The police and prosectors had that from day one. Yet,
even while the media were all showing pictures that didn't
appear to show significant injuries and everyone was
claiming he wasn't injuried at all and death threats were
being made, the authorities deliberately withheld that pic.
It was only released after the media instituted legal
action to get them.

"harry" wrote in message
...
#
# Typical paranoid gun owner.
# Was watching some Hollywood **** at the time no doubt whilst cuddling
# his gun.
# It's a mental disease. You can tell it from the rantings of someone
# here.

Typical stupid hoplophobe indulging in ignorant fantasies, while dancing in
the blood of a tragedy.

No mention of all those incidents where a home invasion actually takes place
and is fought off by a homeowner such as this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rz2wBYin4

"bob haller" wrote in message
...
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved



Considering that the NRA also suggested that teachers, staff and parents be
allowed to be armed in school, there is really no need for armed guards.


Far cheaper and just as effective
All that's needed is to get rid of the "Gun Free Zone" signs and replace
them with "Armed and ready to defend our kids" signs.

After all the Aurora Co. shooter had 7 other cinemas that were closer to
choose from, but specifically went out of his way to go to the one that was
a "Gun Free Zone"..

Too bad that hoplophobes are just plain stupid and unable to go with the
simple solutions.

"DD_BobK" wrote in message
...
On Jan 30, 8:35 pm, bob haller wrote:
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved
#
# If the community decision is to have armed guards in schools...
# why not have the staff & parents of the kids pay for them?

Even simpler is getting rid of that silly "Gun Free Zone" **** and just let
teachers, staff and parents provide the security by letting them be the
"armed guard"..

# btw Couminbine High School had a deputy sheriff on duty who is
# credited (investigate the shooting incident timeline) with saving a
# number of injured & uninjured people during the incident.
#

Really ?
Hard to believe since, hHe ran into one of the shooters in the parking lot
where they exchanged fire. But the problem was that he didn't have his
prescription glasses with him and didn't see well enough to make his shots
count.
ANd then he stayed outside while the shooters continued their rampage
inside.

Too bad he was more of a Barney Fife, than anything useful.



#
# Why is the solution often offered... tax an uninvolved 3rd party for
# benefit of another?

Because it's just another way to try to make owning a gun more onerous for
those who have done nothing wrong.

wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 7:49 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
So, you raise fees on the people who don't commit crimes, to pay for
protection from people who do? I guess that's the way the rest of society
works. I pay various property and municipal taxes, so the cops can do
thier
job.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

#
# There is no need to put seperate armed guards in schools.
# Teachers are already there and there would be teachers
# willing to volunteer to go through training. Pay them an
# additional X dollars a year, say $2,000. Instead of paying
# $40,000 a year for a security guard, it now costs $2,000
# problem solved. It's already being done in TX and FL
# and contrary to what the libs would have you believe,
# no one is dying....

But, but, but
Schools being "gun free zones' are far safer than if schools had armed
teachers, staff and even parents running around....
Think of how traumatic it would be for the children to know and possibly see
that their teacher, staff, and parent volunteers are armed to protect them

On 1/31/2013 8:18 AM, Attila Iskander wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 7:49 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
So, you raise fees on the people who don't commit crimes, to pay for
protection from people who do? I guess that's the way the rest of society
works. I pay various property and municipal taxes, so the cops can do
thier
job.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

#
# There is no need to put seperate armed guards in schools.
# Teachers are already there and there would be teachers
# willing to volunteer to go through training. Pay them an
# additional X dollars a year, say $2,000. Instead of paying
# $40,000 a year for a security guard, it now costs $2,000
# problem solved. It's already being done in TX and FL
# and contrary to what the libs would have you believe,
# no one is dying....

But, but, but
Schools being "gun free zones' are far safer than if schools had armed
teachers, staff and even parents running around....
Think of how traumatic it would be for the children to know and possibly
see that their teacher, staff, and parent volunteers are armed to
protect them

guns are too scary, even if they're made from legos, or a pointed finger...

Media bias. Remember in the Giffords shooting,
the law abiding citizen who rushed from the nearby
where he was. And the bystanders interrupted him,
the shooter had been subdued by that point.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
...


What is missing here are all the hundreds of thousands of
cases where a gun similarly prevented a serious crime from
occuring. Gee, I wonder why?

Would be nice if we could make some separate
schools for families who belive in the right to keep
and bear arms. At those "RKBA schools" the
teachers and parents and staff may legally carry.
See how many people enroll their kids there.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Attila Iskander" wrote in message
...

#
# There is no need to put seperate armed guards in schools.
# Teachers are already there and there would be teachers
# willing to volunteer to go through training. Pay them an
# additional X dollars a year, say $2,000. Instead of paying
# $40,000 a year for a security guard, it now costs $2,000
# problem solved. It's already being done in TX and FL
# and contrary to what the libs would have you believe,
# no one is dying....

But, but, but
Schools being "gun free zones' are far safer than if schools had armed
teachers, staff and even parents running around....
Think of how traumatic it would be for the children to know and possibly see
that their teacher, staff, and parent volunteers are armed to protect them

Dunno to whom. I grew up with cap guns, and
westerns movies. Maybe we need to buy the
kids more capguns. I knew the difference between
play and real. Just like I saw a zillion Wyle E.
Coyote falling off the cliff, but never pushed any
one off a building.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"chaniarts" wrote in message
...
On 1/31/2013 8:18 AM, Attila Iskander wrote:

Think of how traumatic it would be for the children to know and possibly
see that their teacher, staff, and parent volunteers are armed to
protect them

guns are too scary, even if they're made from legos, or a pointed finger...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:35:56 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

Simple enough. Replace one teacher's aid per school or combine ten
classes into eleven. Get rid of a study hall (and fire the
babysitting teacher). I note that you think all such solutions are
worse than losing children. Real nice.


So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

Why? You're just like the moron lefties who got "Saturday night
specials" banned. You don't believe the poor have any right to self
defense. You don't believe anyone does, but the poor are particularly
expendable.

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved

They don't cause the problem. Why should the burden be on them?

IOW, you're in an idiot.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:35:52 -0600, "Attila Iskander"
wrote:


"DD_BobK" wrote in message
...
On Jan 30, 8:35 pm, bob haller wrote:
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved
#
# If the community decision is to have armed guards in schools...
# why not have the staff & parents of the kids pay for them?

One could use that same argument to say that the parents should pay
the entire cost of the education. I don't think that's going to fly
either.

Even simpler is getting rid of that silly "Gun Free Zone" **** and just let
teachers, staff and parents provide the security by letting them be the
"armed guard"..

That's certainly the obvious and best solution. Don't advertise who
has the gun in the school so he's not the keystone to the killing
field.

# btw Couminbine High School had a deputy sheriff on duty who is
# credited (investigate the shooting incident timeline) with saving a
# number of injured & uninjured people during the incident.
#

Really ?
Hard to believe since, hHe ran into one of the shooters in the parking lot
where they exchanged fire. But the problem was that he didn't have his
prescription glasses with him and didn't see well enough to make his shots
count.
ANd then he stayed outside while the shooters continued their rampage
inside.

Too bad he was more of a Barney Fife, than anything useful.



#
# Why is the solution often offered... tax an uninvolved 3rd party for
# benefit of another?

Because it's just another way to try to make owning a gun more onerous for
those who have done nothing wrong.

That's his whole point. He's a moron.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:23:10 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Jan 31, 7:49*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
So, you raise fees on the people who don't commit crimes, to pay for
protection from people who do? I guess that's the way the rest of society
works. I pay various property and municipal taxes, so the cops can do thier
job.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org


There is no need to put seperate armed guards in schools.
Teachers are already there and there would be teachers
willing to volunteer to go through training. Pay them an
additional X dollars a year, say $2,000. Instead of paying
$40,000 a year for a security guard, it now costs $2,000
problem solved. It's already being done in TX and FL
and contrary to what the libs would have you believe,
no one is dying....

Don't pay them anything. Just *allow* concealed carry in schools.
Train teachers and staff, if you want. Maybe make it part of the
administrators' job description. No reason to pay more money. The
fewer people who know who's packing the better.

I think the writing is on the wall. Nothing's going to change today, nor tomorrow, but things are going to change so far as assault rifles go in the US.
That Sandy Hook shooting affected the American conscious more than any other, and most Americans now believe SOMETHING needs to be done.

I think it was Thomas Jefferson that said that not being able to change a country's constitution is like requiring a person to wear the same clothing throughout their whole life.

On 1/31/2013 6:49 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
So, you raise fees on the people who don't commit crimes, to pay for
protection from people who do? I guess that's the way the rest of society
works. I pay various property and municipal taxes, so the cops can do thier
job.


It reminds me of the Commiecrats who only enforce the laws they are
bribed to enforce. ^_^

TDD

On 1/31/2013 8:27 AM, Attila Iskander wrote:

"harry" wrote in message
...
#
# Typical paranoid gun owner.
# Was watching some Hollywood **** at the time no doubt whilst cuddling
# his gun.
# It's a mental disease. You can tell it from the rantings of someone
# here.

Typical stupid hoplophobe indulging in ignorant fantasies, while dancing
in the blood of a tragedy.

No mention of all those incidents where a home invasion actually takes
place and is fought off by a homeowner such as this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rz2wBYin4


I saw an electric gate operator, I suppose the predators were watching
for a time when the gate would be open? O_o

TDD

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:36:42 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Would be nice if we could make some separate
schools for families who belive in the right to keep
and bear arms. At those "RKBA schools" the
teachers and parents and staff may legally carry.
See how many people enroll their kids there.

That sounds a lot like "school choice". What kind of a whacko are
you?

Much like the Poll Taxes the tax you recommend would not pass constitutional
muster.

tobacco taxes are spefic to those who smoke, happily they dont effect
me at all. but those taxes are too low given the health care costs of
smoking.......

On Jan 31, 3:33*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Media bias. Remember in the Giffords shooting,
the law abiding citizen who rushed from the nearby
where he was. And the bystanders interrupted him,
the shooter had been subdued by that point.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org

I seem to remember it was a little old lady disarmed the shooter while
the gun carriers hid.

bob haller wrote:
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved

They are already taxed. A federal 11% excise tax is levied on pistols and
ammunition and a 10% is collected on long guns. These taxes are paid by the
manufacturer.

On 1/30/2013 10:35 PM, bob haller wrote:
The NRA advocates putting armed police officers in every school in
america, the problem is that in pennsylvnia alone that will cost 16
million, per year.

So why not tax weapons and ammo to pay for the costs of poilce
protection in schools?

anyone who buys a gun or ammo should be able to afford the tax, it
gives the NRA what they want, and the school children will likey be
better behaved


I do believe Bill Clinton called for armed guards in schools and the
P.L.L.C.F. never questioned the suggestion from one of their own. ^_^

TDD