I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe to
the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. I'm looking for
something like that for a cabin which is only used a couple weeks a
year. What are the options?
I should add to this that I dont want a large unit since the cabin is
small. I also dont have a basement so anything that needs to go under
the floor wont work. I'd perfer something that is portable and movable.

Yea, I know they make camping toilets that are nothing but a 5gal
plastic pail with a molded seat on top and plastic bags in the pail. I
bought one, they work but I'd prefer something a little more advanced
and much less smelly.

On Nov 12, 6:34*am, "Don Phillipson" wrote:
wrote in message

...

I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe to
the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. *I'm looking for
something like that for a cabin which is only used a couple weeks a
year. *What are the options?

Your choice is between:
1.. *Modern composting toilets (cf. the Whole Earth Catalogue of
say 1980) designed to transform waste, viz. to be emptied at
whatever intervals the process require.
2. * Traditional pit privies, that are simply filled in and covered
over after (say) 10 years of use: *see Chic Sale, The Specialist.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

I'm not sure about them, but on Dirty Jobs, Mike Rowe had to work on a
incinerating toilet that was on a boat. If I recall correctly, it
burns any waste into ashes.. That may be an option for you.

wrote in message
...
I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe to
the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. I'm looking for
something like that for a cabin which is only used a couple weeks a
year. What are the options?


Composting
https://www.lehmans.com/c-256-composting-toilets.aspx

Or gas fired.
http://ecojohn.com/ecojohn_sr.html

A friend has a gas fired incinerating toilet and it worked well. A tiny bit
of ash residue was left. No odor, no problems.

On 11/12/2012 9:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

wrote in message
...
I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe to
the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. I'm looking for
something like that for a cabin which is only used a couple weeks a
year. What are the options?


Composting
https://www.lehmans.com/c-256-composting-toilets.aspx

Or gas fired.
http://ecojohn.com/ecojohn_sr.html

A friend has a gas fired incinerating toilet and it worked well. A tiny bit
of ash residue was left. No odor, no problems.



Darn! I lost my watch in the incinerating toilet! O_o

TDD

When did you do that?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

Darn! I lost my watch in the incinerating toilet! O_o

TDD

wrote:
I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe
to the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. I'm
looking for something like that for a cabin which is only used a
couple weeks a year. What are the options?
I should add to this that I dont want a large unit since the cabin is
small. I also dont have a basement so anything that needs to go under
the floor wont work. I'd perfer something that is portable and
movable.

Yea, I know they make camping toilets that are nothing but a 5gal
plastic pail with a molded seat on top and plastic bags in the pail.
I bought one, they work but I'd prefer something a little more
advanced and much less smelly.

I'd build an outdoor privy (and equip each bedroom with a chamber pot).

A little smelly, but it would add an adventuring spirit to your two-weeks in
the woods. It would certainly be a memorable event for any visitors you had.
Heck, this country is populated by millions who've never used an outdoor
toilet.

Recapture the past. Live like your ancestors. Be a pioneer - if only for two
weeks.

This is important: don't forget the moon-sliver cut-out on the door !

"HeyBub" wrote:
wrote:
I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe
to the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. I'm
looking for something like that for a cabin which is only used a
couple weeks a year. What are the options?
I should add to this that I dont want a large unit since the cabin is
small. I also dont have a basement so anything that needs to go under
the floor wont work. I'd perfer something that is portable and
movable.

Yea, I know they make camping toilets that are nothing but a 5gal
plastic pail with a molded seat on top and plastic bags in the pail.
I bought one, they work but I'd prefer something a little more
advanced and much less smelly.

I'd build an outdoor privy (and equip each bedroom with a chamber pot).

A little smelly, but it would add an adventuring spirit to your two-weeks in
the woods. It would certainly be a memorable event for any visitors you had.
Heck, this country is populated by millions who've never used an outdoor
toilet.

Recapture the past. Live like your ancestors. Be a pioneer - if only for two
weeks.

This is important: don't forget the moon-sliver cut-out on the door !

You don't need a door.

The best out house I ever used was really an *out* house. No building, just
a short wall and a seat on a box over a pit. The seat looked out over a
valley with a beautiful view. The short wall gave you privacy from behind,
which is how others would approach the facility. If they saw someone
sitting there, they would walk away or wait patiently from a distance.

The camp also had a regular outhouse for inclement weather or for shy
folks. Most people, male, female, young and old, loved using the open air
facility on beautiful days and nights.

wrote:
I have heard that there are toilets that do not require a drain pipe to
the sewer or septic, and dont need water to flush them. I'm looking for
something like that for a cabin which is only used a couple weeks a
year. What are the options?
I should add to this that I dont want a large unit since the cabin is
small. I also dont have a basement so anything that needs to go under
the floor wont work. I'd perfer something that is portable and movable.

Yea, I know they make camping toilets that are nothing but a 5gal
plastic pail with a molded seat on top and plastic bags in the pail. I
bought one, they work but I'd prefer something a little more advanced
and much less smelly.

I saw similar unit on survival preppers. The bag was sealed after using.
Close quarters !!

Greg

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:42:52 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Recapture the past. Live like your ancestors. Be a pioneer - if only for two
weeks.

This is important: don't forget the moon-sliver cut-out on the door !

You don't need a door.

The best out house I ever used was really an *out* house. No building, just
a short wall and a seat on a box over a pit. The seat looked out over a
valley with a beautiful view. The short wall gave you privacy from behind,
which is how others would approach the facility. If they saw someone
sitting there, they would walk away or wait patiently from a distance.

The camp also had a regular outhouse for inclement weather or for shy
folks. Most people, male, female, young and old, loved using the open air
facility on beautiful days and nights.

Boy Scouts and Soldiers know how to dig a Latrine.

60 miles from nowhere my bride learned to pee in the dirt.

Oren wrote:

Boy Scouts and Soldiers know how to dig a Latrine.

60 miles from nowhere my bride learned to pee in the dirt.

And, I trust, not to use leaves from posion ivy to wipe ...

On Nov 12, 11:18*pm, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:42:52 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03





wrote:
Recapture the past. Live like your ancestors. Be a pioneer - if only for two
weeks.

This is important: don't forget the moon-sliver cut-out on the door !

You don't need a door.

The best out house I ever used was really an *out* house. No building, just
a short wall and a seat on a box over a pit. The seat looked out over a
valley with a beautiful view. The short wall gave you privacy from behind,
which is how others would approach the facility. If they saw someone
sitting there, they would walk away or wait patiently from a distance.

The camp also had a regular outhouse for inclement weather or for shy
folks. Most people, male, female, young and old, loved using the open air
facility on beautiful days and nights.

Boy Scouts and Soldiers know how to dig a Latrine.

60 miles from nowhere my bride learned to pee in the dirt.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's a beautiful story...just not sure what the response has to do
with my post.

On 11/12/2012 12:22 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
When did you do that?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

Darn! I lost my watch in the incinerating toilet! O_o

TDD



Probably when trying to retrieve his cell phone.

On 11/13/2012 11:34 AM, Frank wrote:
On 11/12/2012 12:22 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
When did you do that?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

Darn! I lost my watch in the incinerating toilet! O_o

TDD



Probably when trying to retrieve his cell phone.

I've dropped a pager in a toilet by accident before. ^_^

TDD

On Nov 13, 2:04*pm, The Daring Dufas the-daring-du...@stinky-
finger.net wrote:
On 11/13/2012 11:34 AM, Frank wrote:





On 11/12/2012 12:22 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
When did you do that?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
* *www.lds.org
.

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

Darn! I lost my watch in the incinerating toilet! O_o

TDD

Probably when trying to retrieve his cell phone.

I've dropped a pager in a toilet by accident before. ^_^

TDD

I jumped into a hot tub with a pager on my belt.

At first I thought the vibrations I felt were from the hot tub bubbles
but it turned out to be my pager shorting out with
BUZZZZzzzzzzzz...zzzzz...zzz...zz...

On Monday, November 12, 2012 9:22:05 AM UTC-5, rlz wrote:
I'm not sure about them, but on Dirty Jobs, Mike Rowe had to work on a
incinerating toilet that was on a boat. If I recall correctly, it
burns any waste into ashes.. That may be an option for you.

....and if you recall, the process of cleaning said toilet was completely disgusting.

No matter what you do, it's going to involve handling some stinky at some point or other in the process.

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real outhouse where you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only time the smell is bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

wrote:

-snip-

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real outhouse where
you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only time the smell is
bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

That's what the bucket of lime is for. Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

Jim

wrote in message
...
On Monday, November 12, 2012 9:22:05 AM UTC-5, rlz wrote:
I'm not sure about them, but on Dirty Jobs, Mike Rowe had to work on a
incinerating toilet that was on a boat. If I recall correctly, it
burns any waste into ashes.. That may be an option for you.

...and if you recall, the process of cleaning said toilet was completely
disgusting.

No matter what you do, it's going to involve handling some stinky at some
point or other in the process.

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real
outhouse where you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only
time the smell is bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

My grandparents kept a scuttle full of wood ashes (from the cook stove) in
their
outhouse. After going, a scoop or two of ashes in the hole kept the smell
at a minimum.

Tomsic

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
wrote:

-snip-

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real outhouse where
you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only time the smell is
bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

That's what the bucket of lime is for. Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

Jim

Even the open air out house I mentioned a few posts back had a bucket of
lime nearby. No out house should be without one.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:01:10 -0500, Jim Elbrecht
wrote:

wrote:

-snip-

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real outhouse where
you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only time the smell is
bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

That's what the bucket of lime is for. Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

Jim

Back when I was young and in the Boy Scouts, all the camps still had
outhouses. We were always told to put in a scoop of lime after we were
finished, but no one ever told us what it was for.

Is the lime only to remove odor, or is there another reason, such as
helping the poop to decompose? I've heard of adding lime to compost
piles to help them decompose, so is that similar to using it in a
outhouse?

On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:39:58 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:01:10 -0500, Jim Elbrecht
wrote:

wrote:

-snip-

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real outhouse where
you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only time the smell is
bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

That's what the bucket of lime is for. Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

Jim

Back when I was young and in the Boy Scouts, all the camps still had
outhouses. We were always told to put in a scoop of lime after we were
finished, but no one ever told us what it was for.

Is the lime only to remove odor, or is there another reason, such as
helping the poop to decompose? I've heard of adding lime to compost
piles to help them decompose, so is that similar to using it in a
outhouse?


IMO- the lime is to keep the odor down. It likely helps in decomp--
and might keep flies down. The 2-3 seater at our summer camp [a 200
yr old house in the Catskills] was built so you were crapping in a
wooden sledge-- Periodically it could be pulled out and dumped on
the back 40.

In Vietnam we used diesel fuel. That replaced the crap odor with
fuel oil- kept the critters out- and helped reach the combustion point
for ****ter burning day.

The smell of diesel fuel still brings me back to the crapper in Quang
Nam province.g

Jim

On 11/14/2012 4:39 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:01:10 -0500, Jim Elbrecht
wrote:

wrote:

-snip-

If you think $hitting into a plastic bag is gross, try using a real outhouse where
you're dumping into an open hole in the ground. The only time the smell is
bearable is the first dump into a new hole.

That's what the bucket of lime is for. Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

Jim

Back when I was young and in the Boy Scouts, all the camps still had
outhouses. We were always told to put in a scoop of lime after we were
finished, but no one ever told us what it was for.

Is the lime only to remove odor, or is there another reason, such as
helping the poop to decompose? I've heard of adding lime to compost
piles to help them decompose, so is that similar to using it in a
outhouse?


Some of the pictures I've seen of mass graves, not necessarily full of
humans, show those doing the burying of the bodies/carcases spreading
lime over the collection. I always wondered why lime was used that way.
I found links on the use of lime for the outhouse and mass graves. It
looks like there are different forms of lime used for those purposes.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8313504_kin...use-waste.html

http://tinyurl.com/blje97s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ACalcium_oxide

http://tinyurl.com/cpzwug8

TDD

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:01:13 PM UTC-5, elbrecht wrote:
That's what the bucket of lime is for. Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

The lime only helps so much.

On Nov 14, 11:31*am, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:01:13 PM UTC-5, elbrecht wrote:
That's what the bucket of lime is for. * *Do your business- cover with
lime for the next guy.

The lime only helps so much.

I agree...the lime helps so much.