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During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well,
I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. |
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On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote:
On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... |
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Terry wrote:
In article , says... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Aurora Theatre Gun-Free Zone http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work beware the wordwrap If you surround the link in " " it won't wrap for the reader. Example: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...ry-Doesnt-Work |
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On Jul 21, 8:49*pm, Terry wrote:
In article , says... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Aurora Theatre Gun-Free Zone http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work beware the wordwrap Which will only come back to bite them on the ass in the end... By restricting the patrons ability to defend themselves using personally carried lawful firearms the theater assumes the duty-of-care to ensure it's patrons safety to offset that restriction it chose to impose upon its patrons... Also I don't believe that there is any such policy in effect which is zero exceptions... Off-duty law enforcement officers are often required by law to be armed at all times, the private property owner could not legally refuse such a person entry or purchase of goods... If the theater makes that one exception then legally they can not bar anyone else in lawful possession of a firearm entry as that would be a discriminatory policy and restricting citizen's constitutional rights and offers the establishment no protection from criminals who illegally carry weapons in violation of the law, let alone the policies of some store or business... It sounds like the theater employees were asleep at the switch as rear exit doors are frequently monitored at all times to prevent "theft of services" where one person in a group buys a ticket and then opens the exit door to admit their friends whom have not paid... A teenaged usher with acne and a flashlight could have foiled this incident during the several minutes it would have taken the suspect to unpack and put on all the gear and weapons he had stowed away in his car... But no one checked the door the suspect exited through and left propped open so he could re-enter the exit to initiate his attack... |
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In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . would you have done it? |
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On 7/21/2012 9:32 PM, Evan wrote:
On Jul 21, 8:49 pm, Terry wrote: In article , says... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Aurora Theatre Gun-Free Zone http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work beware the wordwrap Which will only come back to bite them on the ass in the end... By restricting the patrons ability to defend themselves using personally carried lawful firearms the theater assumes the duty-of-care to ensure it's patrons safety to offset that restriction it chose to impose upon its patrons... Also I don't believe that there is any such policy in effect which is zero exceptions... Off-duty law enforcement officers are often required by law to be armed at all times, the private property owner could not legally refuse such a person entry or purchase of goods... If the theater makes that one exception then legally they can not bar anyone else in lawful possession of a firearm entry as that would be a discriminatory policy and restricting citizen's constitutional rights and offers the establishment no protection from criminals who illegally carry weapons in violation of the law, let alone the policies of some store or business... It sounds like the theater employees were asleep at the switch as rear exit doors are frequently monitored at all times to prevent "theft of services" where one person in a group buys a ticket and then opens the exit door to admit their friends whom have not paid... A teenaged usher with acne and a flashlight could have foiled this incident during the several minutes it would have taken the suspect to unpack and put on all the gear and weapons he had stowed away in his car... But no one checked the door the suspect exited through and left propped open so he could re-enter the exit to initiate his attack... You don't know that the person who opened the door from the inside was the perp. It could have been someone in league with the gunman. Someone who wants to create havoc and terror and who provided information and manipulated Holmes' marginal personality. Expect more of these events as we approach the elections. I would certainly look for psychoactive drugs. Most mass shooters were on one of the SSRIs. |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:14:37 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. |
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On 7/21/2012 11:18 PM, Strabo wrote:
On 7/21/2012 9:32 PM, Evan wrote: On Jul 21, 8:49 pm, Terry wrote: In article , says... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Aurora Theatre Gun-Free Zone http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work beware the wordwrap Which will only come back to bite them on the ass in the end... By restricting the patrons ability to defend themselves using personally carried lawful firearms the theater assumes the duty-of-care to ensure it's patrons safety to offset that restriction it chose to impose upon its patrons... Also I don't believe that there is any such policy in effect which is zero exceptions... Off-duty law enforcement officers are often required by law to be armed at all times, the private property owner could not legally refuse such a person entry or purchase of goods... If the theater makes that one exception then legally they can not bar anyone else in lawful possession of a firearm entry as that would be a discriminatory policy and restricting citizen's constitutional rights and offers the establishment no protection from criminals who illegally carry weapons in violation of the law, let alone the policies of some store or business... It sounds like the theater employees were asleep at the switch as rear exit doors are frequently monitored at all times to prevent "theft of services" where one person in a group buys a ticket and then opens the exit door to admit their friends whom have not paid... A teenaged usher with acne and a flashlight could have foiled this incident during the several minutes it would have taken the suspect to unpack and put on all the gear and weapons he had stowed away in his car... But no one checked the door the suspect exited through and left propped open so he could re-enter the exit to initiate his attack... You don't know that the person who opened the door from the inside was the perp. It could have been someone in league with the gunman. Someone who wants to create havoc and terror and who provided information and manipulated Holmes' marginal personality. Expect more of these events as we approach the elections. I would certainly look for psychoactive drugs. Most mass shooters were on one of the SSRIs. It seems to me that these mass shootings happen more often during Democrat administrations. Perhaps it's because the Democrat rulers damage the psyche of our society so badly that some people are pushed over the edge into hopeless rage. Thankfully it's only a very few it happens to, we have enough insane Democrats in this country. O_o TDD |
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On 7/21/2012 6:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I saw on the TV news the family who lost their six year old daughter in the shooting and the girl's mother will be a quadraplegic for the rest of her life. They are living a nightmare. Judge not, lest ye be judged. http://www.globalgulag.us/id117.html |
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The "lets roll" guy thought he was on air plane ride.
Got to be prepared to take action, when the moment happens. Why would a guy with a CC / CHL permit be any different than the unprepared sheeple? (Training, mindset, preparation, and....) Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Richard" wrote in message m... I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. |
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assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them......
sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again |
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Strabo wrote: I would certainly look for psychoactive drugs. Most mass shooters were on one of the SSRIs. Yo have any kind of actual documentation to back that up? -- America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:49:54 -0700, Terry wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work In the wake of over a dozen murders at a movie theater in Colorado, film critic Roger Ebert rushed to decry America's "insane" gun laws in a New York Times op-ed. Within the piece, he pooh-poohed concealed carry laws by noting that no one in the theater shot back at the gunman. But Ebert misses an important point. The Cinemark theater chain has a "gun-free zone" policy. In the NYT, Ebert chided America for allowing gun ownership for the common man. That James Holmes is insane, few may doubt. Our gun laws are also insane, but many refuse to make the connection. The United States is one of few developed nations that accepts the notion of firearms in public hands. In theory, the citizenry needs to defend itself. Not a single person at the Aurora, Colo., theater shot back, but the theory will still be defended. [emphasis added] Of course, if Ebert had bothered to check before trying to use this murderous crime for his own anti-Second Amendment purposes, he may have found that no one could have shot back, because the theater chain does not allow its customers to carry guns in its theaters. As it happens, the Century 16 theaters at 14300 E. Alameda Ave in Aurora, Colorado are owned by Cinemark Century Theaters, headquartered in Plano, Texas, and for several years this chain movie theater has told customers they are not welcome to bring their firearms into theaters. Back in 2009, an Alaska-based member of a gun owner's message board going by the handle SubNine reported that he tried to enter a Cinemark owned theater with his open carry weapon but was told he was not allowed to enter the premises armed because the chain had a no-weapons policy. It was a "gun-free zone," he was told by the manager. A year before the above post, another message board started a similar conversation. In 2008, the Open Carry forums also noted Cinemark's "gun-free zone" policy. One message board member even communicated via email with a Dan Meyers at the corporate offices of Cinemark. That corporate official confirmed the restriction and added that only police officers could carry their concealed weapons into Cinemark theaters. He also asked gun owners not to bother complaining to them about the policy. So, as Ebert scoffs that no one returned fire at this theater and assumed that it that would diminish the efficacy of concealed carry laws, he didn't bother to find out if anyone was or even could be armed in that theater. Turns out they couldn't, but Ebert tried to use this crime and its tragic consequences for his own political purposes anyway. Operative word, "concealed". If it is concealed, how are the theater flunkys to know someone is entering with one? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Jul 22, 6:16*am, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article , *Strabo wrote: I would certainly look for psychoactive drugs. Most mass shooters were on one of the SSRIs. * Yo have any kind of actual documentation to back that up? -- America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe He most certainly does. A whole library of it stored right where he pulled that "fact" out of. Crania and rectum comes to mind. Harry K |
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On Jul 22, 6:59*am, "dadiOH" wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:49:54 -0700, Terry wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work In the wake of over a dozen murders at a movie theater in Colorado, film critic Roger Ebert rushed to decry America's "insane" gun laws in a New York Times op-ed. Within the piece, he pooh-poohed concealed carry laws by noting that no one in the theater shot back at the gunman. But Ebert misses an important point. The Cinemark theater chain has a "gun-free zone" policy. In the NYT, Ebert chided America for allowing gun ownership for the common man. * *That James Holmes is insane, few may doubt. Our gun laws are also insane, but many refuse to make the connection. The United States is one of few developed nations that accepts the notion of firearms in public hands. In theory, the citizenry needs to defend itself. Not a single person at the Aurora, Colo., theater shot back, but the theory will still be defended. [emphasis added] Of course, if Ebert had bothered to check before trying to use this murderous crime for his own anti-Second Amendment purposes, he may have found that no one could have shot back, because the theater chain does not allow its customers to carry guns in its theaters. As it happens, the Century 16 theaters at 14300 E. Alameda Ave in Aurora, Colorado are owned by Cinemark Century Theaters, headquartered in Plano, Texas, and for several years this chain movie theater has told customers they are not welcome to bring their firearms into theaters. Back in 2009, an Alaska-based member of a gun owner's message board going by the handle SubNine reported that he tried to enter a Cinemark owned theater with his open carry weapon but was told he was not allowed to enter the premises armed because the chain had a no-weapons policy. It was a "gun-free zone," he was told by the manager. A year before the above post, another message board started a similar conversation. In 2008, the Open Carry forums also noted Cinemark's "gun-free zone" policy. One message board member even communicated via email with a Dan Meyers at the corporate offices of Cinemark. That corporate official confirmed the restriction and added that only police officers could carry their concealed weapons into Cinemark theaters. He also asked gun owners not to bother complaining to them about the policy. So, as Ebert scoffs that no one returned fire at this theater and assumed that it that would diminish the efficacy of concealed carry laws, he didn't bother to find out if anyone was or even could be armed in that theater. Turns out they couldn't, but Ebert tried to use this crime and its tragic consequences for his own political purposes anyway. Operative word, "concealed". *If it is concealed, how are the theater flunkys to know someone is entering with one? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? *Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? *Check it out...http://www.floridaloghouse.net Metal detector at the entrance/exits. I've seen a couple reports in the news where some theaters are going to do it. Harry K |
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On Jul 21, 7:03*pm, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:46:05 +1000, terryc wrote: On 22/07/12 10:14, Stormin Mormon spammed : Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus Please don't cross post when replying to this moron. And I suppose you think you're a genius? More so than stormin - at least he doesn't top post. Harry K |
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On Jul 22, 6:16*am, bob haller wrote:
assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them....... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again Great! Now come up with a legal definition of an "assault type weapon". Noone has been able to do that yet. Harry K |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them...... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again You can ban anything you want, but the ones in existence will still be around. Criminals intent on destruction don't care if they are using a stolen or otherwise illegal weapon or not. We are about 250 years too late for effective gun control. We already have enough laws to cover just about any situation, but the people doing evil don't care about them or obey them. I have no idea what the solution may be, but making more laws and stopping the sale of certain weapons at this point is not going to stop gun related crimes. |
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On Jul 22, 12:18*am, Strabo wrote:
On 7/21/2012 9:32 PM, Evan wrote: On Jul 21, 8:49 pm, Terry wrote: In article , says... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Aurora Theatre Gun-Free Zone http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work beware the wordwrap Which will only come back to bite them on the ass in the end... By restricting the patrons ability to defend themselves using personally carried lawful firearms the theater assumes the duty-of-care to ensure it's patrons safety to offset that restriction it chose to impose upon its patrons... Also I don't believe that there is any such policy in effect which is zero exceptions... *Off-duty law enforcement officers are often required by law to be armed at all times, the private property owner could not legally refuse such a person entry or purchase of goods... *If the theater makes that one exception then legally they can not bar anyone else in lawful possession of a firearm entry as that would be a discriminatory policy and restricting citizen's constitutional rights and offers the establishment no protection from criminals who illegally carry weapons in violation of the law, let alone the policies of some store or business... It sounds like the theater employees were asleep at the switch as rear exit doors are frequently monitored at all times to prevent "theft of services" where one person in a group buys a ticket and then opens the exit door to admit their friends whom have not paid... *A teenaged usher with acne and a flashlight could have foiled this incident during the several minutes it would have taken the suspect to unpack and put on all the gear and weapons he had stowed away in his car... But no one checked the door the suspect exited through and left propped open so he could re-enter the exit to initiate his attack... You don't know that the person who opened the door from the inside was the perp. *It could have been someone in league with the gunman. Someone who wants to create havoc and terror and who provided information and manipulated Holmes' marginal personality. Expect more of these events as we approach the elections. I would certainly look for psychoactive drugs. Most mass shooters were on one of the SSRIs. BULL... Everything about this incident which has been released to the public as well as numerous survivors who have been interviewed stated that the gunman entered from the exit door... His activities prior to the event scream "lone wolf" rather than being a team player... The gunman had a redeemed prepaid ticket in his possession when\ arrested, so he was there in the theater prior to exiting to retrieve his body armor and weapons while he prepared for the main event... Since he had to go outside that means he had to use an exit door, the same door he later re-entered the theater through, so the simplest explanation that fits the known facts is that HE and not some unknown partner was the one who propped open the door... Where did you get your psychology diagnostic experience ? Was it from the same cracker-jack decoder ring that the newsmedia has been using to magically divine all the pop psychology reasons why this person could have done this ? Seriously some people just snap for no reason and do terrible things without being mentally ill or taking SSRIs... |
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On Jul 22, 7:58*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: The "lets roll" guy thought he was on air plane ride. Got to be prepared to take action, when the moment happens. *Why would a guy with a CC */ CHL permit be any different than the unprepared sheeple? (Training, mindset, preparation, and....) Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "Richard" wrote in message m... I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. ROFL... Seriously ? Those careful planners who go off on these shooting sprees rarely envision resistance so if anyone had begun shooting back he could have stopped and fled... To say that only a police officer with training and experience could have done anything: I say bull****... There are just as many cases where the police shoot innocent people who are bystanders or completely air condition a suspect's car when one or two shots is all that was called for... |
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On Jul 22, 9:16*am, bob haller wrote:
assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them....... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again If that were the truth then the police should be the first to give them up, since they are unwilling and unable to do so, clearly there is some non-military need for people to possess and be able to use such weapons... |
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On Jul 22, 10:26*am, Harry K wrote:
On Jul 22, 6:59*am, "dadiOH" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:49:54 -0700, Terry wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...bert-Gun-Free- Theater-Proves-Concealed-Carry-Doesnt-Work In the wake of over a dozen murders at a movie theater in Colorado, film critic Roger Ebert rushed to decry America's "insane" gun laws in a New York Times op-ed. Within the piece, he pooh-poohed concealed carry laws by noting that no one in the theater shot back at the gunman. But Ebert misses an important point. The Cinemark theater chain has a "gun-free zone" policy. In the NYT, Ebert chided America for allowing gun ownership for the common man. * *That James Holmes is insane, few may doubt. Our gun laws are also insane, but many refuse to make the connection. The United States is one of few developed nations that accepts the notion of firearms in public hands. In theory, the citizenry needs to defend itself. Not a single person at the Aurora, Colo., theater shot back, but the theory will still be defended. [emphasis added] Of course, if Ebert had bothered to check before trying to use this murderous crime for his own anti-Second Amendment purposes, he may have found that no one could have shot back, because the theater chain does not allow its customers to carry guns in its theaters. As it happens, the Century 16 theaters at 14300 E. Alameda Ave in Aurora, Colorado are owned by Cinemark Century Theaters, headquartered in Plano, Texas, and for several years this chain movie theater has told customers they are not welcome to bring their firearms into theaters. Back in 2009, an Alaska-based member of a gun owner's message board going by the handle SubNine reported that he tried to enter a Cinemark owned theater with his open carry weapon but was told he was not allowed to enter the premises armed because the chain had a no-weapons policy. It was a "gun-free zone," he was told by the manager. A year before the above post, another message board started a similar conversation. In 2008, the Open Carry forums also noted Cinemark's "gun-free zone" policy. One message board member even communicated via email with a Dan Meyers at the corporate offices of Cinemark. That corporate official confirmed the restriction and added that only police officers could carry their concealed weapons into Cinemark theaters. He also asked gun owners not to bother complaining to them about the policy. So, as Ebert scoffs that no one returned fire at this theater and assumed that it that would diminish the efficacy of concealed carry laws, he didn't bother to find out if anyone was or even could be armed in that theater. Turns out they couldn't, but Ebert tried to use this crime and its tragic consequences for his own political purposes anyway. Operative word, "concealed". *If it is concealed, how are the theater flunkys to know someone is entering with one? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? *Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? *Check it out...http://www.floridaloghouse.net Metal detector at the entrance/exits. *I've seen a couple reports in the news where some theaters are going to do it. Harry K ROFL... How will installing metal detectors at the main entrance in any way protect against someone going out the rear exit and then coming back in armed ? |
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Harry K writes:
On Jul 22, 6:16Â*am, bob haller wrote: assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them...... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again Great! Now come up with a legal definition of an "assault type weapon". Noone has been able to do that yet. You can always tell an assault weapon. They "look" dangerous. If any gun law should be examined, it's high capacity clips. Of course some hunter may have a pressing need to fire off 100 shots at a time. Some of the people in the theater recounted how they tried to run for the exits while they thought the shooter was reloading. Lest I be accused of being anti-gun or pro-gun, I don't have strong opinions either way. -- Dan Espen |
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"Richard" wrote in message m... On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. More likely killed a few more kids. |
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"Richard" wrote in message m... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Why would anyone go to see it at midnight? Why indeed would they go at all? |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote:
assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them...... I have a better idea. Why don't we just ban mass murder? It makes just as much sense and would at least be Constitutional. sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again You're an idiot. What does the shape of the stock have to do with the lethality of a weapon? You do know that hunting rifles are just as lethal? Right? |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:29:51 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote: On Jul 22, 6:16*am, bob haller wrote: assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them...... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again Great! Now come up with a legal definition of an "assault type weapon". Noone has been able to do that yet. Harry K The media has. If it is black then it's an assault weapon. Now they use a wall chart for identification, http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/71230.bmp sigh -- |
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On Jul 21, 5:28*pm, Richard wrote:
On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... excellent point.... he's home, snug in bed at that hour |
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Gunner Asch wrote in
: So you either follow the law, or violate the law. As a law abiding person..those people followed the law..and died or were wounded as a result. End result. they're dead now. No undo. Some laws should not be followed. Laws which go against logic. Just because something is made a law, does NOT make it a just/right law. Following it becuase it's a law, until you can "change" it, is the sheeple mentality. And as you can see, that can get you killed these days. -- I don't need no arms around me. And I dont need no drugs to calm me. I have seen the writing on the wall. Don't think I need anything at all. No! Don't think I'll need anything at all. All in all it was all just bricks in the wall. All in all you were all just bricks in the wall. Pink Floyd Another Brick in the Wall part 3 |
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Dustin wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote in : So you either follow the law, or violate the law. As a law abiding person..those people followed the law..and died or were wounded as a result. End result. they're dead now. No undo. Some laws should not be followed. Laws which go against logic. Just because something is made a law, does NOT make it a just/right law. Following it becuase it's a law, until you can "change" it, is the sheeple mentality. And as you can see, that can get you killed these days. Sad part is, the 'hero' might spend his life in prison for doing the right thing to save his life or others. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Got to be prepared to take action, when the moment happens. Why would a guy with a CC / CHL permit be any different than the unprepared sheeple? (Training, mindset, preparation, and....) You really should take a CCW class sometime even if you have no intention of pursuing the permit or purchasing a firearm. It would be educational, since often a lot of time in the classroom is spent familiarizing the first time shooter with running their firearm. The class is a one day affair, and if you're lucky you'll get to send a hundred rounds downrange. Then, in this state, you present your diploma and $50 to the sheriff who shall issue a permit. You can stop on your way home, buy a LCP and a box of shells, and stick it and your permit in your fanny pack, secure in the knowledge you can take on the world. That's a rather bleak overview. Some CCW holders are very competent and motivated; others put in a day at a class and there was no magical transformation to a skilled shooter able to react under extreme stress. |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:51:30 +0100, "harryagain" wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message om... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Why would anyone go to see it at midnight? Because it was the first showing. It's a common occurrence for "blockbusters". Why indeed would they go at all? Why do you come here? |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:09:41 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:29:51 -0700 (PDT), Harry K wrote: On Jul 22, 6:16*am, bob haller wrote: assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them...... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again Great! Now come up with a legal definition of an "assault type weapon". Noone has been able to do that yet. Harry K The media has. If it is black then it's an assault weapon. Now they use a wall chart for identification, http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/71230.bmp The bottom ones on the left side are "SUVs". |
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On 7/22/2012 11:51 AM, harryagain wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message m... On 7/21/2012 7:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. Problem is - such a person would not likely have been going to see that movie at midnight... Why would anyone go to see it at midnight? Why indeed would they go at all? Most folks have an imagination and are social and don't sit home under a black cloud reciting a list of all of the things they hate... |
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G. Morgan wrote in
: Dustin wrote: Gunner Asch wrote in m: So you either follow the law, or violate the law. As a law abiding person..those people followed the law..and died or were wounded as a result. End result. they're dead now. No undo. Some laws should not be followed. Laws which go against logic. Just because something is made a law, does NOT make it a just/right law. Following it becuase it's a law, until you can "change" it, is the sheeple mentality. And as you can see, that can get you killed these days. Sad part is, the 'hero' might spend his life in prison for doing the right thing to save his life or others. While certainly possible, because they've broken the law by keeping themselves armed; I wouldn't think any district attorney in that area would follow thru if he had saved lives. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. I'm not trying to make lite of what happened either. I'm deeply saddened by the individuals acts. No reason to have shot those people. -- I don't need no arms around me. And I dont need no drugs to calm me. I have seen the writing on the wall. Don't think I need anything at all. No! Don't think I'll need anything at all. All in all it was all just bricks in the wall. All in all you were all just bricks in the wall. Pink Floyd Another Brick in the Wall part 3 |
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The right to keep and bear arms is not based on "need".
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "bob haller" wrote in message ... assault type weapons should be banned nationwide. theres no need for them...... sadly they were outlawed for awile but were allowed again |
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