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"HeyBub" wrote in message m... Since 1934 there has been ONE crime committed with an automatic weapon. I don't remember the particulars, but I do remember the perp was a police officer who stole a Tommy Gun from the office arsenal. Guess that you missed the big shootout in the street about 10 years ago. Cops were out gunned and the shooters had body armor. The cops had to go to a gun store and get some rifles to help end the shooting. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:47:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: Correction There has been one crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon And the cop went after another officer who was apparently partying with the shooter's wife. He was after some pussy? -- |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:53:16 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: Guess that you missed the big shootout in the street about 10 years ago. Cops were out gunned and the shooters had body armor. The cops had to go to a gun store and get some rifles to help end the shooting. The cops did commander the local gun shops for better equipment and ammo. The last shooter {2nd} finally shot himself. Only paper work is left then. Donuts anyone? -- |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:43:34 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: Go take your meds now !!! Yes, that is exactly what he told you to do.. Don't ya'll Yankees trim and snip postings? -- If your hat is on fire; remove your hat. Damn! -- |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:47:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: Correction There has been one crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon And the cop went after another officer who was apparently partying with the shooter's wife. He was after some pussy? -- NO his co-worker got his wife's... |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:25:21 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:47:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: Correction There has been one crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon And the cop went after another officer who was apparently partying with the shooter's wife. He was after some pussy? -- NO his co-worker got his wife's... There must be something wrong with that. -- |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:50 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:23:22 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:43:37 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:20:48 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:40:27 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:11:11 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:40:18 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:erjq08h3qt0gklstfb5uj7kdglr23ph9hi@4a x.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:55:02 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1khq085fumdekq0upb7vn8jpve33akj90o@ 4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24i ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. I doubt that they are becoming "more" common But hey, I'll be happy to look at any data to support your claim See my other reply. Your other reply was COMPLETELY BARE OF FACTS to support your claim Try again Statistics can be slanted anyway you want if you call those facts. Indeed. So when are you going to start supplying facts? Your opinion is noted with amused contempt. Now how about some facts? Gunner I'm not here to educate people who can't do it for themselves. Besides I could care less if you don't believe me. Are you *still* weasleing? No, how bout you? You've never heard of a rhetorical question, obviously. Oh, and you lie. You're *stillI weaseling. Yeah right. Just cause I choose not to waste my time, you assume I'm wrong. Whatever... If you just didn't what to "waste your time", you'd just drop the subject instead of your continual weaseling. Of course, you have no interest in learning anything, either. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? There was a case here, just a few weeks ago, where a blind guy sued to get his guns back. He won. I understand he's a reasonably good shot, too. What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? Phobia. You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. He's embarrassed because he's irrational (see: phobia). |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:25:21 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:47:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: Correction There has been one crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon And the cop went after another officer who was apparently partying with the shooter's wife. He was after some pussy? -- NO his co-worker got his wife's... So who wanted the pussy the most? I'm confused. Remember, cooter can get you in trouble from both sides. -- |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:25:21 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Oren" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:47:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: Correction There has been one crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon And the cop went after another officer who was apparently partying with the shooter's wife. He was after some pussy? -- NO his co-worker got his wife's... So who wanted the pussy the most? I'm confused. I guess they both did But apparently the coworker got it instead of the husband Which is why the husband machine-gunned the coworker |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:53:38 -0400, "
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:50 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:23:22 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:43:37 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:20:48 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:40:27 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:11:11 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:40:18 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:erjq08h3qt0gklstfb5uj7kdglr23ph9hi@4 ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:55:02 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1khq085fumdekq0upb7vn8jpve33akj90o @4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24 ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. I doubt that they are becoming "more" common But hey, I'll be happy to look at any data to support your claim See my other reply. Your other reply was COMPLETELY BARE OF FACTS to support your claim Try again Statistics can be slanted anyway you want if you call those facts. Indeed. So when are you going to start supplying facts? Your opinion is noted with amused contempt. Now how about some facts? Gunner I'm not here to educate people who can't do it for themselves. Besides I could care less if you don't believe me. Are you *still* weasleing? No, how bout you? You've never heard of a rhetorical question, obviously. Oh, and you lie. You're *stillI weaseling. Yeah right. Just cause I choose not to waste my time, you assume I'm wrong. Whatever... If you just didn't what to "waste your time", you'd just drop the subject instead of your continual weaseling. Of course, you have no interest in learning anything, either. Right, not from people like yourself. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. I do but no matter what I say, it won't be perfect so I'll leave that to our dear Congress to mull over. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:23:45 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:25:21 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:47:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: Correction There has been one crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon And the cop went after another officer who was apparently partying with the shooter's wife. He was after some pussy? -- NO his co-worker got his wife's... So who wanted the pussy the most? I'm confused. I guess they both did But apparently the coworker got it instead of the husband Which is why the husband machine-gunned the coworker A good example of a hostile work environment. They were fighting over pussy. Shame on them. -- |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:57:27 -0400, "
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? There was a case here, just a few weeks ago, where a blind guy sued to get his guns back. He won. I understand he's a reasonably good shot, too. What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? Phobia. You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. He's embarrassed because he's irrational (see: phobia). No, I just don't think anyone should have a gun. Disagree, I don't care. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message om... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12@4ax .com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24il @4ax.com... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... and you call me an idiot grin. |
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On 25/07/12 00:08, Doug wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:28:26 -0700, Gunner wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:20:48 -0500, wrote: So in other words..you are not here to educated people with facts and figures, but you are here only to spew your opinion? Thanks for the admission. Now was there anything else you wished to vent, before we start putting you in the bozo bin? Gunner Whatever Bozo, Gunner or whatever name you want to call yourself. Gum boy speaks about himself all the time. great fantasy worl he lives in and he never keeps his promise to bin you. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:45:51 -0500, "Doug"
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. I do but no matter what I say, it won't be perfect so I'll leave that to our dear Congress to mull over. Take a chance. I'll try to follow your logic. Do not blame this on congress. Why do you need a "perfect" answer? I was seeking your ideas and honest opinions of restrictions on, and taking of guns from a decent citizens. Got answers? -- |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:42:05 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:53:38 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:50 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:23:22 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:43:37 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:20:48 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:40:27 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:11:11 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:40:18 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:erjq08h3qt0gklstfb5uj7kdglr23ph9hi@ 4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:55:02 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1khq085fumdekq0upb7vn8jpve33akj90 ... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a2 ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. I doubt that they are becoming "more" common But hey, I'll be happy to look at any data to support your claim See my other reply. Your other reply was COMPLETELY BARE OF FACTS to support your claim Try again Statistics can be slanted anyway you want if you call those facts. Indeed. So when are you going to start supplying facts? Your opinion is noted with amused contempt. Now how about some facts? Gunner I'm not here to educate people who can't do it for themselves. Besides I could care less if you don't believe me. Are you *still* weasleing? No, how bout you? You've never heard of a rhetorical question, obviously. Oh, and you lie. You're *stillI weaseling. Yeah right. Just cause I choose not to waste my time, you assume I'm wrong. Whatever... If you just didn't what to "waste your time", you'd just drop the subject instead of your continual weaseling. Of course, you have no interest in learning anything, either. Right, not from people like yourself. I know it's impossible. You're uneducable. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:34 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:57:27 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? There was a case here, just a few weeks ago, where a blind guy sued to get his guns back. He won. I understand he's a reasonably good shot, too. What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? Phobia. You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. He's embarrassed because he's irrational (see: phobia). No, I just don't think anyone should have a gun. Disagree, I don't care. So you were lying. No surprise. Lefties are like that. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:01:10 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:45:51 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. I do but no matter what I say, it won't be perfect so I'll leave that to our dear Congress to mull over. Take a chance. I'll try to follow your logic. Do not blame this on congress. Why do you need a "perfect" answer? I was seeking your ideas and honest opinions of restrictions on, and taking of guns from a decent citizens. Got answers? Easy. He's a loony lefty. They don't need reasons for hating anything (or anyone). |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:49:34 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message m... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:hltq08pi10p7t3nf949n7e53td580t1s4e@4ax. com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12@4a x.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24i ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... No, fact. and you call me an idiot grin. You are what you are. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:34 -0500, "Doug"
wrote: No, I just don't think anyone should have a gun. Disagree, I don't care. A prison Warden practiced limitations of such a policy. A family lost their father when he and other officers were ambushed. Don't "care" if you don't want too. I do care. I'll give up my guns long, long after others do. -- |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message m... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:hltq08pi10p7t3nf949n7e53td580t1s4e@4ax. com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12@4a x.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24i ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... and you call me an idiot grin. Yes I do And you're an even bigger idiot to imagine that my identifying what you are for all and sundry is anything but that. But hey, idiots do idiotic things |
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Concealed weapons save lives
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/concealed-weapons-save-lives-article-1.1121161?localLinksEnabled=false |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:07:19 -0400, "
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:42:05 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:53:38 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:50 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:23:22 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:43:37 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:20:48 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:40:27 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:11:11 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:40:18 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:erjq08h3qt0gklstfb5uj7kdglr23ph9hi @4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:55:02 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1khq085fumdekq0upb7vn8jpve33akj9 ... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. I doubt that they are becoming "more" common But hey, I'll be happy to look at any data to support your claim See my other reply. Your other reply was COMPLETELY BARE OF FACTS to support your claim Try again Statistics can be slanted anyway you want if you call those facts. Indeed. So when are you going to start supplying facts? Your opinion is noted with amused contempt. Now how about some facts? Gunner I'm not here to educate people who can't do it for themselves. Besides I could care less if you don't believe me. Are you *still* weasleing? No, how bout you? You've never heard of a rhetorical question, obviously. Oh, and you lie. You're *stillI weaseling. Yeah right. Just cause I choose not to waste my time, you assume I'm wrong. Whatever... If you just didn't what to "waste your time", you'd just drop the subject instead of your continual weaseling. Of course, you have no interest in learning anything, either. Right, not from people like yourself. I know it's impossible. You're uneducable. Coming from you, that's funny. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:42:41 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:40:27 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:11:11 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:40:18 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message om... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:55:02 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1khq085fumdekq0upb7vn8jpve33akj90o@4ax .com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24il@4 ax.com... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. I doubt that they are becoming "more" common But hey, I'll be happy to look at any data to support your claim See my other reply. Your other reply was COMPLETELY BARE OF FACTS to support your claim Try again Statistics can be slanted anyway you want if you call those facts. Indeed. So when are you going to start supplying facts? Your opinion is noted with amused contempt. Now how about some facts? Gunner I'm not here to educate people who can't do it for themselves. Besides I could care less if you don't believe me. Then your need to participate in this thread is ended Goodbye. Gee I thought it was hopeless but we finally agree !! |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:19:20 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:34 -0500, "Doug" wrote: No, I just don't think anyone should have a gun. Disagree, I don't care. A prison Warden practiced limitations of such a policy. A family lost their father when he and other officers were ambushed. Don't "care" if you don't want too. I do care. I'll give up my guns long, long after others do. No matter what policy you have, it will not be perfect. There will always be cracks to slip by but I think you have to look at the majority of cases not minority of cases. I still don't want anyone to have a gun. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:09:19 -0400, "
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:01:10 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:45:51 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. I do but no matter what I say, it won't be perfect so I'll leave that to our dear Congress to mull over. Take a chance. I'll try to follow your logic. Do not blame this on congress. Why do you need a "perfect" answer? I was seeking your ideas and honest opinions of restrictions on, and taking of guns from a decent citizens. Got answers? Easy. He's a loony lefty. They don't need reasons for hating anything (or anyone). I don't hate, just don't think guns should be for everyone. Suppose you knew a guy was unstable and capable of killing, would you want that person to be allowed to buy a gun legally? I know he may still get a gun illegally but I'm talking about legal gun ownership. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:43:13 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message om... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:hltq08pi10p7t3nf949n7e53td580t1s4e@4ax .com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12@4 ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a24 ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... and you call me an idiot grin. Yes I do And you're an even bigger idiot to imagine that my identifying what you are for all and sundry is anything but that. But hey, idiots do idiotic things Just keep talking... people can judge you for what you are too which may not be what you think you are. |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:03:58 -0500, CRNG wrote:
Concealed weapons save lives http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/concealed-weapons-save-lives-article-1.1121161?localLinksEnabled=false Interesting article if the facts are true. I'm going to guess that if the movie house didn't have any sign, only a few would carry guns on them into the movie house. I guess then an argument could be made that if someone had a gun, they could have shot the shooter. I think this is a valid point. I guess we need to ask ourselves with what happened in this movie house in mind, if we went to a movie or concert or any venue with a lot of people, would we feel safer with some people carrying a gun or not? |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:38:52 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:07:19 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:42:05 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:53:38 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:50 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:23:22 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:43:37 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:20:48 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:40:27 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:11:11 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:40:18 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:erjq08h3qt0gklstfb5uj7kdglr23ph9h ... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:55:02 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1khq085fumdekq0upb7vn8jpve33akj ... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0 ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. I doubt that they are becoming "more" common But hey, I'll be happy to look at any data to support your claim See my other reply. Your other reply was COMPLETELY BARE OF FACTS to support your claim Try again Statistics can be slanted anyway you want if you call those facts. Indeed. So when are you going to start supplying facts? Your opinion is noted with amused contempt. Now how about some facts? Gunner I'm not here to educate people who can't do it for themselves. Besides I could care less if you don't believe me. Are you *still* weasleing? No, how bout you? You've never heard of a rhetorical question, obviously. Oh, and you lie. You're *stillI weaseling. Yeah right. Just cause I choose not to waste my time, you assume I'm wrong. Whatever... If you just didn't what to "waste your time", you'd just drop the subject instead of your continual weaseling. Of course, you have no interest in learning anything, either. Right, not from people like yourself. I know it's impossible. You're uneducable. Coming from you, that's funny. Nah, you just looked in the mirror. |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:53:14 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:09:19 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:01:10 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:45:51 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. I do but no matter what I say, it won't be perfect so I'll leave that to our dear Congress to mull over. Take a chance. I'll try to follow your logic. Do not blame this on congress. Why do you need a "perfect" answer? I was seeking your ideas and honest opinions of restrictions on, and taking of guns from a decent citizens. Got answers? Easy. He's a loony lefty. They don't need reasons for hating anything (or anyone). I don't hate, Let me add "liar" to the (long) list of the attributes of you loony lefties. just don't think guns should be for everyone. No one said they should be, stupid. I have no interest in forcing you to protect yourself. Suppose you knew a guy was unstable and capable of killing, would you want that person to be allowed to buy a gun legally? If I *knew* it? Well, you do know (no I suppose you don't) that there are people who aren't allowed, by law, to own firearms? I know he may still get a gun illegally but I'm talking about legal gun ownership. That'll make the dead person feel *much* better. |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:03:58 -0500, CRNG wrote: Concealed weapons save lives http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/concealed-weapons-save-lives-article-1.1121161?localLinksEnabled=false Interesting article if the facts are true. I'm going to guess that if the movie house didn't have any sign, only a few would carry guns on them into the movie house. That is correct only 1-2% of the population chooses to be armed in most States The rest of the population is willing to do nothing and depend on luck, the police (who usually show up after the incident is over, or the hope that those 1-2% who carry are around and will respond to save them too. I guess then an argument could be made that if someone had a gun, they could have shot the shooter. I think this is a valid point. I guess we need to ask ourselves with what happened in this movie house in mind, if we went to a movie or concert or any venue with a lot of people, would we feel safer with some people carrying a gun or not? Frankly, I hope you don't feel any safer if you choose to be passive about your own protection And you should definitely not count on others saving your bacon for you when you are not willing to make the effort for yourself After all, the expectation that people who carry will automatically stand and respond is also a false expectation. Our first duty is not to you but out ourselves and ours. Why should we risk ourselves, if there is a safe way for us and ours to get to safety. After all, 97+% of the population CHOOSE not to arm themselves for their own defense. That is a morally corrupt mindset. And the answer the other side of your question ,turn it around Since the only people one needs to fear are those with criminal intent, why would you feel less safe if there are armed law-abiding people around you ? |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:19:20 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:34 -0500, "Doug" wrote: No, I just don't think anyone should have a gun. Disagree, I don't care. A prison Warden practiced limitations of such a policy. A family lost their father when he and other officers were ambushed. Don't "care" if you don't want too. I do care. I'll give up my guns long, long after others do. No matter what policy you have, it will not be perfect. There will always be cracks to slip by but I think you have to look at the majority of cases not minority of cases. I still don't want anyone to have a gun. Why should we care ? You are one of those sheeple who expects others to protect you A morally corrupt position. |
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: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? There was a case here, just a few weeks ago, where a blind guy sued to get his guns back. He won. I understand he's a reasonably good shot, too. Even in an unlit room I bet :-) What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? Phobia. You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. He's embarrassed because he's irrational (see: phobia). |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:09:19 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:01:10 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:45:51 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:45:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:41:59 -0500, "Doug" wrote: ... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). What "restrictions? Should a blind man own a gun? What do you perceive as a reason to take away a privately owned gun? You seen to have an opinion of when to take the guns... please share with us. I do but no matter what I say, it won't be perfect so I'll leave that to our dear Congress to mull over. Take a chance. I'll try to follow your logic. Do not blame this on congress. Why do you need a "perfect" answer? I was seeking your ideas and honest opinions of restrictions on, and taking of guns from a decent citizens. Got answers? Easy. He's a loony lefty. They don't need reasons for hating anything (or anyone). I don't hate, just don't think guns should be for everyone. Suppose you knew a guy was unstable and capable of killing, would you want that person to be allowed to buy a gun legally? I know he may still get a gun illegally but I'm talking about legal gun ownership. 1) Vacuous argument that relies on overgeneralization Under the right stressors EVERYONE can be unstable and/or capable of killing. 2) And if your example can get a gun illegally, (and it's not that hard), what difference does it make to make my life more difficult and less safe ? |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:43:13 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message m... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:6uvq08ll786og530kb6rtpa57h6ag7pak1@4ax. com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:hltq08pi10p7t3nf949n7e53td580t1s4e@4a x.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12@ 4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a2 ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... and you call me an idiot grin. Yes I do And you're an even bigger idiot to imagine that my identifying what you are for all and sundry is anything but that. But hey, idiots do idiotic things Just keep talking... people can judge you for what you are too which may not be what you think you are. yada, yada, yada. More circular logic I KNOW what I am. And frankly I don't really give a fig about what others (such as you) imagine I am. |
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Doug wrote:
I wasn't but now I will..... personally I think everyone who wants a gun (with some restrictions) should be allowed to have a gun legally. I'm not in favor of taking guns away from people (in most cases). I'll go farther. Everybody who wants a gun should have one PROVIDED by the government (if they can't afford one on their own). Here's the rationale: The courts have held that an individual charged with a crime is entitled to a lawyer, at state expense if necessary, so that his constitutional right to legal representation can be fulfilled. It follows that if we have a right to own a gun... |
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