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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Elephant guns are for shooting elephants, so Sissy guns are for shooting liberal sissies? I don't know. The Mossad seems to shoot damn near anyone they want to with ..22's. A suppressed 10/22 is great for crowd control. Quietly kneecap them from 100 yards and all any of Abdul's friends know is that he stumbled and is having trouble getting up. It looks a lot better on the 6 o'clock news than tear gas, water cannons, or non-lethal projectiles. |
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The Daring Dufas wrote in
: I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Take a look at the walther 22 semi pistol http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...er-p22-review/ I've shot a few of them.. small calibre, but if you can't make the bad guy **** off after emptying the clip of CCI stingers, you have a bigger problem anyway. :) -- Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution. Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much. Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the way. I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in line. |
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You'll note that EVERY mass shooting in the country, with one exception - the Gabby Giffords shooting in a parking lot, has taken place in a NO GUNS venue. In my view, we need more people with guns and itchy trigger fingers. As a cautionary note, the guy who wrestled the gun from Giffords' shooter damn near got shot for his trouble. Maybe 'people with guns, itchy trigger fingers, and the ability to instantly assess the situation in the midst of general panic'? |
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The Daring Dufas wrote: On 7/28/2012 6:55 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: On 7/28/2012 12:31 AM, Dustin wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote in : On 7/27/2012 12:09 AM, Dustin wrote: G. Morgan wrote in : If it's installed correctly, the EOLR would prevent the jumper trick. It probably had no EOLR supervision. No. It won't. EOLR is an open/closed detection circuit only. Unless each switch/contact is a home run...bypassing a single switch will not set it off. Just determine what the switch state is supposed to be in normal mode, and either jump it, or don't. close/leave it open. EOLR won't notice anything as you didn't really change anything from it's POV. the circuit is still open or closed. It's happy. Heck, I sourced some door switches for an embassy that were resistant to the extra magnet trick and you needed a cutting torch to get to the wires. ^_^ TDD Damn you. It was for an engineer friend working for the same construction company I worked for out in The Pacific at the missile range when the company got contracts to build U.S. Embassies in various countries around the globe. For some odd reason, the government is kinda picky about security at embassies. You could look up balanced magnetic door switches of a few types, some more secure than others and harder if not impossible to defeat. O_o Hall effect sensors near the mag switch would be real fun to defeat. I had a narrow range thermal intermittent failure of the Hall effect sensor in the distributor of my old van some years ago. I coined the term "The Goldilocks Effect". The temperature has to be just right for a semiconductor to work. I've come across this on a number of occasions over four decades in all sorts of solid state equipment that used discrete semiconductors. I even had a transistor act like an inductor in the IF stage of a two way radio at room temperature one time and chilling it down caused it to behave. If those immortality pill I bought off The Interweb work, I guess I'll live long enough to see everything. The pills are supposed to give my a giant schlong too, it claimed to do so in the Email. ^_^ I had a Delco '60s car radio that I put five temperature sensitive transistors in. I used it to see if newly hired techs knew what they were doing. Some worked hot, other worked cold, and all five had theirown temperature range. I had one hotshot spend half a day on it before he quit and walked out of the shop. It was funny watching them with a can of freeze mist in one hand, and a heat lamp in the other as they tried to decide which part was bad. A VTVM to measure the collect voltages would have shown them the faults in under a minute. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012
08:59:56 -0400 typed in alt.survival the following: The Daring Dufas wrote: I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Elephant guns are for shooting elephants, so Sissy guns are for shooting liberal sissies? ;-) Hey, that sounds like a Good Idea. But I'm afraid if I walk into the local gun store and ask for a "Sissy Gun" I will be laughed at. And that could be bad for my self-esteemed. (Or, like Agorn*, I could chose to be amused.) tschus pyotr * http://mansionofe.comicgenesis.com/d/20120726.html -- pyotr filipivich Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for, where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012
07:59:39 -0400 typed in alt.survival the following: HeyBub wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: It was for an engineer friend working for the same construction company I worked for out in The Pacific at the missile range when the company got contracts to build U.S. Embassies in various countries around the globe. For some odd reason, the government is kinda picky about security at embassies. You could look up balanced magnetic door switches of a few types, some more secure than others and harder if not impossible to defeat. O_o In the opening episode of this season's "Breaking Bad," the cops raided the headquarters of the bad guy. The cops confiscated a laptop computer and checked it into the police property room. Obviously, when the cops got around to looking through the computer's files, Walt and his buddy would be screwed. Oh, what to do? The got an OLD delivery truck with an aluminum shell. In this truck, they mounted the business end of a magnetic junk crane, you know the type, about five feet in diameter and capable of picking up trashed automobiles. Also in the van they mounted 42 heavy-duty batteries. During the night, they drove the truck up against the back wall of the police property room and threw the switch. It was a hoot to see all the shelving and metal property leave its location and hug the wall! The cops were, um, call it confused to see everything in the property room in disarray. Then they found the truck, tipped over against the back wall. Where there's a will, there's a way. It takes an alternating magnetic field to demagnatise a disk and the permananat magnets inside the drive have a higher density that that would have provided. Aren't the electromagnets on those booms A/C powered? OTOH, in "Cryptonepricon" (Or however it is spelled - Neil Stephenson's book) the "good guys" built large magnetic coils into the door and window frames of the server room. Any computer drive taken out of the server room without first killing the main power - got wiped. When they said they offered secure data storage, they meant it. Of course, you can't expect a script writer to know that. Like an episode of McGyver years ago: He was inside a nuclear reactor and the control for the 'alarm system' was built on Radio Shack perf board. Good thing, I've talked with many friends over the years about how They got Missile (etc) Security all wrong - and the consensus was usually "Do you really want them to get it right?" tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for, where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault. |
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"HeyBub" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:30 -0500
typed in alt.survival the following: * Holmes WAS wearing a "ballistic nylon" vest. Ignorant journalists immediately morphed this into "body armor." Something made of "ballistic nylon" won't stop squat, let alone a bullet. What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon which works for the Government? Nylon with poor emotional self control and it goes ballistic over every little thing? Nylons worn by SEALs when they go swimming in tropical waters? Or just another marketing term? tschus pyotr -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:32:48 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: "HeyBub" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:30 -0500 typed in alt.survival the following: * Holmes WAS wearing a "ballistic nylon" vest. Ignorant journalists immediately morphed this into "body armor." Something made of "ballistic nylon" won't stop squat, let alone a bullet. What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon which works for the Government? Nylon with poor emotional self control and it goes ballistic over every little thing? Nylons worn by SEALs when they go swimming in tropical waters? A failure for stopping a bullet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_nylon Or just another marketing term? -- |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message ... "HeyBub" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:30 -0500 typed in alt.survival the following: * Holmes WAS wearing a "ballistic nylon" vest. Ignorant journalists immediately morphed this into "body armor." Something made of "ballistic nylon" won't stop squat, let alone a bullet. What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon which works for the Government? Nylon with poor emotional self control and it goes ballistic over every little thing? Nylons worn by SEALs when they go swimming in tropical waters? Or just another marketing term? tschus pyotr The vests issued during Vietnam were filled with it, I believe. The filler was enclosed in waterproof bags that made them miserable above 40F, luckily for us that was winter temperature in Germany but we still perspired when training in them. They were said to stop grenade etc fragments but not AK47 bullets. In the camping industry it's a fairly thick, stiff, tightly woven nylon cloth that resembles and substitutes for canvas, as opposed to Ripstop. jsw |
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"Jim Wilkins" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:29:22
-0400 typed in alt.survival the following: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message .. . "HeyBub" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:30 -0500 typed in alt.survival the following: * Holmes WAS wearing a "ballistic nylon" vest. Ignorant journalists immediately morphed this into "body armor." Something made of "ballistic nylon" won't stop squat, let alone a bullet. What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon which works for the Government? Nylon with poor emotional self control and it goes ballistic over every little thing? Nylons worn by SEALs when they go swimming in tropical waters? Or just another marketing term? tschus pyotr The vests issued during Vietnam were filled with it, I believe. The filler was enclosed in waterproof bags that made them miserable above 40F, luckily for us that was winter temperature in Germany but we still perspired when training in them. They were said to stop grenade etc fragments but not AK47 bullets. In the camping industry it's a fairly thick, stiff, tightly woven nylon cloth that resembles and substitutes for canvas, as opposed to Ripstop. Oh, "Cordura" Thanks. jsw -- pyotr filipivich Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for, where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:55:28 GMT, Dustin wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote in : I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Take a look at the walther 22 semi pistol http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...er-p22-review/ I was thinking about getting SWMBO a Walther PPK/S but couldn't decide on .32 or .380. I've shot a few of them.. small calibre, but if you can't make the bad guy **** off after emptying the clip of CCI stingers, you have a bigger problem anyway. :) Wounding a druggie will only be ****ed off. A sane mugger will retreat upon sight of the weapon and not stop to look at the bore. The slasher the other day was subdued by his eyeballs after seeing the weapon. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:32:47 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:59:39 -0400 typed in alt.survival the following: HeyBub wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: It was for an engineer friend working for the same construction company I worked for out in The Pacific at the missile range when the company got contracts to build U.S. Embassies in various countries around the globe. For some odd reason, the government is kinda picky about security at embassies. You could look up balanced magnetic door switches of a few types, some more secure than others and harder if not impossible to defeat. O_o In the opening episode of this season's "Breaking Bad," the cops raided the headquarters of the bad guy. The cops confiscated a laptop computer and checked it into the police property room. Obviously, when the cops got around to looking through the computer's files, Walt and his buddy would be screwed. Oh, what to do? The got an OLD delivery truck with an aluminum shell. In this truck, they mounted the business end of a magnetic junk crane, you know the type, about five feet in diameter and capable of picking up trashed automobiles. Also in the van they mounted 42 heavy-duty batteries. During the night, they drove the truck up against the back wall of the police property room and threw the switch. It was a hoot to see all the shelving and metal property leave its location and hug the wall! The cops were, um, call it confused to see everything in the property room in disarray. Then they found the truck, tipped over against the back wall. Where there's a will, there's a way. It takes an alternating magnetic field to demagnatise a disk and the permananat magnets inside the drive have a higher density that that would have provided. Aren't the electromagnets on those booms A/C powered? Perhaps, but "42 heavy duty batteries" aren't. ;-) OTOH, in "Cryptonepricon" (Or however it is spelled - Neil Stephenson's book) the "good guys" built large magnetic coils into the door and window frames of the server room. Any computer drive taken out of the server room without first killing the main power - got wiped. When they said they offered secure data storage, they meant it. I doubt they could get the magnetic flux density necessary to write a modern disk drive. Of course, you can't expect a script writer to know that. Like an episode of McGyver years ago: He was inside a nuclear reactor and the control for the 'alarm system' was built on Radio Shack perf board. Good thing, I've talked with many friends over the years about how They got Missile (etc) Security all wrong - and the consensus was usually "Do you really want them to get it right?" Right. No need to know. It just ruins the story line. ;-) OTOH, I understand that Tom Clancy has been interviewed a couple of times because of some of the details in his submarine scenes. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:32:48 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: "HeyBub" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:30 -0500 typed in alt.survival the following: * Holmes WAS wearing a "ballistic nylon" vest. Ignorant journalists immediately morphed this into "body armor." Something made of "ballistic nylon" won't stop squat, let alone a bullet. What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon which works for the Government? Nylon with poor emotional self control and it goes ballistic over every little thing? Nylons worn by SEALs when they go swimming in tropical waters? It's the stuff that modern luggage is made out of. It's lightweight, somewhat water resistant, and rips don't propagate easily. I has nothing to do with being faster than a bullet or more powerful than a speeding train. It won't even jump tall buildings. |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message ... "Jim Wilkins" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:29:22 ... In the camping industry it's a fairly thick, stiff, tightly woven nylon cloth that resembles and substitutes for canvas, as opposed to Ripstop. Oh, "Cordura" Thanks. Close, but Cordura can use other fibers. jsw |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:34:01 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:32:35 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "mike" wrote in message ... On 7/21/2012 5:26 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/21/2012 7:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: During the Colorado shooting, wasn't there one person who said "Oh, well, I'm dead anyway" and charged, and tackled the shooter? Or did they all run ad hide? I guess not? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . I think it's a little unfair to ask that of civilians. They thought they were going to a movie. But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved some lives that day. That fellow would have been... 1) shot by the police. Really ? Why ? 2) sued by everybody in the theater Really ? Why ? 3) God help him if he accidentally hit anybody. Really ? Why ? After 911, I got a carry permit, primarily so I could take a pistol in the car or motorhome without hassle. I also carried it on the street for a while. It gave me a false sense of security. I determined that ANY action that I took would involve WAY more risk to me than any help it could provide. That's you But that does not make it true for anyone else Ordinary people shouldn't carry guns. But I'd defend their right to do so. You're right And since only 1-2% of the population chooses to carry, they definitely are not ordinary like you Its actually 3-5%. And on some occasions..you can bet that far far more are carrying. Anyone want to be the Batman movie audiences were unarmed the following week? Except in theaters that ban firearms. Just don't go and tell them why. |
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" wrote in
: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:55:28 GMT, Dustin wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote in : I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Take a look at the walther 22 semi pistol http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...er-p22-review/ I was thinking about getting SWMBO a Walther PPK/S but couldn't decide on .32 or .380. I've shot a few of them.. small calibre, but if you can't make the bad guy **** off after emptying the clip of CCI stingers, you have a bigger problem anyway. :) Wounding a druggie will only be ****ed off. A sane mugger will retreat upon sight of the weapon and not stop to look at the bore. The slasher the other day was subdued by his eyeballs after seeing the weapon. Wounding? with a clip of stingers? You must be a terrible shot. [g] -- Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution. Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much. Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the way. I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in line. |
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wrote in message
... It's the stuff that modern luggage is made out of. It's lightweight, somewhat water resistant, and rips don't propagate easily. I has nothing to do with being faster than a bullet or more powerful than a speeding train. It won't even jump tall buildings. http://www.military-quotes.com/jokes/military-humor.htm Scroll to Rank Recognition Made Easy at the bottom. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:32:48 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon which works for the Government? Nylon with poor emotional self control and it goes ballistic over every little thing? Nylons worn by SEALs when they go swimming in tropical waters? Or just another marketing term? It was developed during World War II to be used in jackets to protect airmen from flying debris. The original specification for ballistic nylon was an 18 oz nylon fabric made from 1050 denier high tenacity nylon yarn in a 2x2 basket weave. Today the term is often used to refer to any nylon fabric that is made with a "ballistic weave", typically a 2x2 or 2x3 basketweave. Today, Kevlar does that job better. |
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pyotr filipivich wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:59:56 -0400 typed in alt.survival the following: The Daring Dufas wrote: I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Elephant guns are for shooting elephants, so Sissy guns are for shooting liberal sissies? ;-) Hey, that sounds like a Good Idea. But I'm afraid if I walk into the local gun store and ask for a "Sissy Gun" I will be laughed at. And that could be bad for my self-esteemed. (Or, like Agorn*, I could chose to be amused.) No! No! No! You tell them you want a lightweight weapon to scare away sissies. You wouldn't want them to fill their 'Depends', would you? No one wants to be around when those need changed! |
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Dustin wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: Wounding a druggie will only be ****ed off. A sane mugger will retreat upon sight of the weapon and not stop to look at the bore. The slasher the other day was subdued by his eyeballs after seeing the weapon. Wounding? with a clip of stingers? You must be a terrible shot. [g] Keith does most of his shooting with an electron gun. ;-) |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:24:47 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:09:57 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:49:34 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message m... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:6uvq08ll786og530kb6rtpa57h6ag7pak1@4ax. com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:hltq08pi10p7t3nf949n7e53td580t1s4e@4a x.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12@ 4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a2 ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... No, fact. and you call me an idiot grin. You are what you are. Poor Dooogie... http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...s-all-time-low http://newstalk1280.com/murder-rates...-all-time-low/ http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-o...rime-down.html Poo poo Doogie...mindlessly wandering the streets of life, clueless, stupid, retarted. A perfect Democrat voter. AKA..Useful Idiot. Gunner Whatever.... |
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pyotr filipivich wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:59:39 -0400 typed in alt.survival the following: HeyBub wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: It was for an engineer friend working for the same construction company I worked for out in The Pacific at the missile range when the company got contracts to build U.S. Embassies in various countries around the globe. For some odd reason, the government is kinda picky about security at embassies. You could look up balanced magnetic door switches of a few types, some more secure than others and harder if not impossible to defeat. O_o In the opening episode of this season's "Breaking Bad," the cops raided the headquarters of the bad guy. The cops confiscated a laptop computer and checked it into the police property room. Obviously, when the cops got around to looking through the computer's files, Walt and his buddy would be screwed. Oh, what to do? The got an OLD delivery truck with an aluminum shell. In this truck, they mounted the business end of a magnetic junk crane, you know the type, about five feet in diameter and capable of picking up trashed automobiles. Also in the van they mounted 42 heavy-duty batteries. During the night, they drove the truck up against the back wall of the police property room and threw the switch. It was a hoot to see all the shelving and metal property leave its location and hug the wall! The cops were, um, call it confused to see everything in the property room in disarray. Then they found the truck, tipped over against the back wall. Where there's a will, there's a way. It takes an alternating magnetic field to demagnatise a disk and the permananat magnets inside the drive have a higher density that that would have provided. Aren't the electromagnets on those booms A/C powered? AC has less holding power than DC. it could also set up resonant vibration in what they are pulling against. They may use unfiltered DC from a bank of rectifiers, but at that power level it would require three phase, and the ripple is only a few percent with a full wave three phase bridge. Those electromagnets are extremely power hungry. I weas shocked tro see the specs on one. 480 V 1000A three phase to the 'rectifier' and about a 10% duty cycle for the electromagnet, depending on the surrounding temperature and airflow. They also have a high residual magnetic field, so it helps in the lifting. OTOH, in "Cryptonepricon" (Or however it is spelled - Neil Stephenson's book) the "good guys" built large magnetic coils into the door and window frames of the server room. Any computer drive taken out of the server room without first killing the main power - got wiped. When they said they offered secure data storage, they meant it. Three things come to mind: 1: Hard drives were physically larger in 1999. New recording techniques allow a density they couldn't achieve, ant that requires a lot higher magnetic field to erase the data. 2: What would have stopped someone from stealing the data on CDROMs? 3: The data could be remotely logged, so even if that did work, it's still not secure unless the servers were completely isolated from any other computer. That kind of makes servers unneeded, doesn't it? Do you know what it would take to maintain a field like that? How about the 'Inverse Square law'? You would need a low frequency alternating magnetic field to erase a drive, and the opening would have to me quite small. The magnetic field would likely be so strong that it would be detrimental to the person carrying the drive. Are you familiar with 'Skin Depth' in wire? That means that the higher the frequency, the less of the conductor is penetrated by the electrical current. DC can use the entire conductor, but at a high enough AC frequency the current only uses the outside and whatever the 'Skin Depth' is. That is the reason that high power RF coils are wound with copper tubing, and sometimes silver plated to reduce the surface resistance. 'Skin Depth' is also involved in waveguide. The metal only has to be thick enough for the required physical strength to support it's weight. The RF bounces along inside the waveguide at much lower loss than in coax. There is a whole class of mathematics involved in the design of high power waveguide systems. Another is the design of high power diplexers used in NTSC TV broadcast. They look like steam punk, because they have to. Lots of gleaming copper or brass, sometimes tons of it. A better approach would be a metal detector that won't let you remove any metal from the room without dropping it through a high power shredder, and the debris is removed by gravity trough a long shaft. Of course, you can't expect a script writer to know that. Like an episode of McGyver years ago: He was inside a nuclear reactor and the control for the 'alarm system' was built on Radio Shack perf board. Good thing, I've talked with many friends over the years about how They got Missile (etc) Security all wrong - and the consensus was usually "Do you really want them to get it right?" How would they know when they got it right? |
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pyotr filipivich wrote: "HeyBub" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:30 -0500 typed in alt.survival the following: * Holmes WAS wearing a "ballistic nylon" vest. Ignorant journalists immediately morphed this into "body armor." Something made of "ballistic nylon" won't stop squat, let alone a bullet. What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon panties worn by mail carriers who are about to 'Go Postal'. ;-) |
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Jim Wilkins wrote: wrote in message ... It's the stuff that modern luggage is made out of. It's lightweight, somewhat water resistant, and rips don't propagate easily. I has nothing to do with being faster than a bullet or more powerful than a speeding train. It won't even jump tall buildings. http://www.military-quotes.com/jokes/military-humor.htm Scroll to Rank Recognition Made Easy at the bottom. The 'Snakes' part was pretty good, too. :) |
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On 7/28/2012 7:59 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Elephant guns are for shooting elephants, so Sissy guns are for shooting liberal sissies? ;-) Well, a sissy isn't going to attack me unless you think I could die from having my butt grabbed. O_o TDD |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:52:39 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: What is, exactly "ballistic nylon"? Nylon panties worn by mail carriers who are about to 'Go Postal'. ;-) http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Big-Bloomers-Makes-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXL-Knickers-for-Extra-Large-Women-2.jpg -- |
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On 7/28/2012 10:55 AM, Dustin wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote in : I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Take a look at the walther 22 semi pistol http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...er-p22-review/ I've shot a few of them.. small calibre, but if you can't make the bad guy **** off after emptying the clip of CCI stingers, you have a bigger problem anyway. :) Many folks are having problems with those cute little guns so I'd be looking at something else. The only pistol that ever seemed to fit my hand was a Desert Eagle .50 cal. ^_^ TDD |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
But I'm afraid if I walk into the local gun store and ask for a "Sissy Gun" I will be laughed at. And that could be bad for my self-esteemed. (Or, like Agorn*, I could chose to be amused.) If I chose to walk in and buy one of those pink Walthers, the clerks might be amused, but I bet they'd wait for me to hit the parking lot before chuckling. |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
Many folks are having problems with those cute little guns so I'd be looking at something else. The only pistol that ever seemed to fit my hand was a Desert Eagle .50 cal. ^_^ They aren't bad as long as you have a small boy for a gun bearer. I don't think they make a comfortable IWB holster for them... |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:29:22 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote: Take a look at the walther 22 semi pistol http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...er-p22-review/ I've shot a few of them.. small calibre, but if you can't make the bad guy **** off after emptying the clip of CCI stingers, you have a bigger problem anyway. :) Many folks are having problems with those cute little guns so I'd be looking at something else. The only pistol that ever seemed to fit my hand was a Desert Eagle .50 cal. ^_^ TDD You must have big feet :-\ -- WARNING: My dog is armed and refuses to take his medication -- |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:19:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Dustin wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: Wounding a druggie will only be ****ed off. A sane mugger will retreat upon sight of the weapon and not stop to look at the bore. The slasher the other day was subdued by his eyeballs after seeing the weapon. Wounding? with a clip of stingers? You must be a terrible shot. [g] Yeah, it happens. It can take a lot to convince someone high on PCP that he's dead. Keith does most of his shooting with an electron gun. ;-) Nope, never designed with at toob in my life. I'm too young. ;-) |
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On 7/28/2012 7:59 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: I've been thinking of getting a firearm again but the only problem for me is my arthritic hands. I can't even shake hand with folks at times because of it and I cant imagine the pain the recoil of any type gun would cause me much less being able to hold on to the darn thing. The last pistol I owned was a 9mm Browning Hi-Power which really didn't have that much kick with standard ball or semi-wadcutter ammo but I had it loaded with military surplus sub machine gun ammo and the darn thing kicked like a mule and sounded like a howitzer going off. I'll have to get a sissy gun I suppose but those can be deadly too. ^_^ Elephant guns are for shooting elephants, so Sissy guns are for shooting liberal sissies? ;-) What worries me is a home defense situation where I'm awakened by a goblin at the door and my hands don't work too well when I'm first awakened. If I close my hands, one or more fingers stick and won't open normally until my hands warmup. Long gone are the days when I could jump out of bed and spring into action. I've seen some material on modifying trigger assemblies on home defense shotguns to make it easier for someone with arthritis to fire the weapon. I live in pain but it would be a lot worse if I sat around instead of pushing myself. Me and JH are looking for a young guy to help us pull wire and cable and climb around in ceilings, someone around 50 years old. ^_^ TDD |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:41:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:24:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:09:57 -0400, " wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:49:34 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:39:48 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message om... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:52:05 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:6uvq08ll786og530kb6rtpa57h6ag7pak1@4ax .com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:hltq08pi10p7t3nf949n7e53td580t1s4e@4 ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:38:53 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:1ojq08h6qtd2stn9gi68826a2hlg9jgb12 @4ax.com... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:32 -0400, " wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:43:29 -0500, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:34:52 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:522n08t08epc6hn7n8sbck3li1de0a ... I haven't heard of that but I did hear that one young man took a fatal bullet to save his girlfriend there. It really makes me sad to think this is almost becoming a common event and whereas before I had no opinion on gun control, I do now but I'll save it for a rainy day. Mass shootings are not that "common an experience" as you imagine This is a far more common experience. Nearly 4 times as common, and no one blathers on about these ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/11-dead-12-injured-pickup-truck-loaded-passengers-crashes-trees-rural-south-texas-article-1.1119890 Not common yet...as I said " becoming common" but maybe I should have said "becoming MORE common" as each year goes by. Except it's not. Really, look at the news and think about how many times you heard this sorta thing. The years between these events are getting closer. So you should have no problem demonstrating that with some graph to support your claim Even a sequential list of dates would do as well.. No need, I know I'm right. At least you imagine you are Too bad you confuse "imagine" with "know" There is a difference But it's a difference idiots don't comprehend Oh now the name calling when you can't convince someone. LOL I'm not trying to convince you of anything You fit perfectly Ronald Reagan's aphorism "It's not that our friends on the left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong." You're an idiot because instead of verifying what you believe, you simple presume that you are right in your belief I need to prove it to you ??? LOL You did ? You actually consider a comment like "read the news and you will see" as proof ? Thank you for once again, proving you're an idiot Name calling.... No, fact. and you call me an idiot grin. You are what you are. Poor Dooogie... http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...s-all-time-low http://newstalk1280.com/murder-rates...-all-time-low/ http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-o...rime-down.html Poo poo Doogie...mindlessly wandering the streets of life, clueless, stupid, retarted. A perfect Democrat voter. AKA..Useful Idiot. Gunner Whatever.... Gunner's got you pretty well nailed; Ignorati. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:51:25 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote: What worries me is a home defense situation where I'm awakened by a goblin at the door and my hands don't work too well when I'm first awakened. If I close my hands, one or more fingers stick and won't open normally until my hands warmup. Long gone are the days when I could jump out of bed and spring into action. I've seen some material on modifying trigger assemblies on home defense shotguns to make it easier for someone with arthritis to fire the weapon. I live in pain but it would be a lot worse if I sat around instead of pushing myself. Me and JH are looking for a young guy to help us pull wire and cable and climb around in ceilings, someone around 50 years old. ^_^ TDD Just the other night, Sons of Guns had a customer with nerve damage in his hands. He cold not rack the slide to charge the weapon, except under his arm pit (do not do this at home kids). They put a "T" handle on the slide, like an M-16 / AR-15 so he could operate the weapon. He was all giggly afterwards. Using just to fingers ... Stephanie is my 'girlfriend, but she doesn't know it yet :-\ -- |
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On 7/28/2012 6:53 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: On 7/28/2012 12:10 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: Heck, I'm disabled, can't run and I'm not bullet proof Have you been reading my mail? :( Na, you're probably a member of the invisible work force in this country like me and the guys I work with. We get no help from the government, heck, we've been turned away and told them to get screwed. We work as hard as we can when we can in order to survive. My old Hippie roommate was actually getting help from Social Security and Medicare/Medicade or whatever the heck it's called and he died the first part of this month. He walked out of the county hospital with an IV bag of blood in his arm and was later found unconscious at a bus stop. He wound up back at the hospital in ICU in a coma for a month before coming out of it long enough to say goodby to his sister. He and his older brother who died earlier this year because of the same self destructive behavior now reside in their sister's closet in 2 rather small boxes of ashes. The two idiots partied themselves to death with drugs, alcohol and inhalation of the byproducts of combustion from various legal and illegal substances. Me, I've never touched any of that crap and my problems are due to accumulated injuries over more than a half century. The damage adds up but I keep on truckin. ^_^ A Veteran I know was found dead in her rented home recently. She had been trying to get disbility. She served at the wrong time to get non service connected, and SS screwed her around so long that it killed her. :( I'm not a veteran but I know it's a shame the way or military veterans are treated by our government. Hell, Islamic terrorist prisoners are probably treated with more respect. I tried to join twice but was turned away for medical reasons. Funny thing, I was in college during The Vietnam War and my contemporaries were running to Canada, shooting a toe off, claiming to be queer or a minister in The Kazoo Church. I tried to join and was turned down. It was 35 years before I discovered the secret to avoiding the military during The Vietnam era, it was "allergies", if you had allergies you weren't any good for target practice. I found it out after telling a friend who was a retired recruiter for The Army. He told me "allergies" was THE BIG SECRET for legally avoiding The Draft. Heck I signed up for The Air Force because they had the best electronic toys. It was a big disappointment to be turned down. O_o TDD |
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On 7/28/2012 6:59 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
HeyBub wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: It was for an engineer friend working for the same construction company I worked for out in The Pacific at the missile range when the company got contracts to build U.S. Embassies in various countries around the globe. For some odd reason, the government is kinda picky about security at embassies. You could look up balanced magnetic door switches of a few types, some more secure than others and harder if not impossible to defeat. O_o In the opening episode of this season's "Breaking Bad," the cops raided the headquarters of the bad guy. The cops confiscated a laptop computer and checked it into the police property room. Obviously, when the cops got around to looking through the computer's files, Walt and his buddy would be screwed. Oh, what to do? The got an OLD delivery truck with an aluminum shell. In this truck, they mounted the business end of a magnetic junk crane, you know the type, about five feet in diameter and capable of picking up trashed automobiles. Also in the van they mounted 42 heavy-duty batteries. During the night, they drove the truck up against the back wall of the police property room and threw the switch. It was a hoot to see all the shelving and metal property leave its location and hug the wall! The cops were, um, call it confused to see everything in the property room in disarray. Then they found the truck, tipped over against the back wall. Where there's a will, there's a way. It takes an alternating magnetic field to demagnatise a disk and the permananat magnets inside the drive have a higher density that that would have provided. Of course, you can't expect a script writer to know that. Like an episode of McGyver years ago: He was inside a nuclear reactor and the control for the 'alarm system' was built on Radio Shack perf board. Do you laugh your ass off watching low budget SciFi shows where the engine room of the giant alien space cruiser is actually a chiller plant for an big building's air conditioning system? Placards with alien looking symbols cover the nameplates with Carrier, York, Trane and Square D printed on them. It hurts to laugh that hard sometimes. ^_^ TDD |
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On 7/28/2012 6:20 AM, HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: It was for an engineer friend working for the same construction company I worked for out in The Pacific at the missile range when the company got contracts to build U.S. Embassies in various countries around the globe. For some odd reason, the government is kinda picky about security at embassies. You could look up balanced magnetic door switches of a few types, some more secure than others and harder if not impossible to defeat. O_o In the opening episode of this season's "Breaking Bad," the cops raided the headquarters of the bad guy. The cops confiscated a laptop computer and checked it into the police property room. Obviously, when the cops got around to looking through the computer's files, Walt and his buddy would be screwed. Oh, what to do? The got an OLD delivery truck with an aluminum shell. In this truck, they mounted the business end of a magnetic junk crane, you know the type, about five feet in diameter and capable of picking up trashed automobiles. Also in the van they mounted 42 heavy-duty batteries. During the night, they drove the truck up against the back wall of the police property room and threw the switch. It was a hoot to see all the shelving and metal property leave its location and hug the wall! The cops were, um, call it confused to see everything in the property room in disarray. Then they found the truck, tipped over against the back wall. Where there's a will, there's a way. It's bad enough that the critters are stealing the darn things for the metal. Now the idiot dope dealers will get into the act thinking they can erase any data law enforcement has on them. O_o TDD |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:28:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: I was thinking about getting SWMBO a Walther PPK/S but couldn't decide on .32 or .380. 380. Only James Bond would depend on the .32 And the .380 is "way way light" A .380 in the pocket is better than a .380 in the truck. .... just sayin' -- |
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