This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...hu_mixdown.mp3

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...drain-cleaner/

On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...hu_mixdown.mp3

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...drain-cleaner/

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

TDD

On Jan 7, 9:50*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:





This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown...

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight..

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...-photo-id-to-b...

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

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I's say just wait a bit. Looks like just another
example of a kook politician and other politicians
who didn't know what they were even voting for.
I predict it will soon be repealed. It apparently is
very broad and applies to more than just drain
cleaner. But it's a good example of the many
loon politicians out there today. Anytime anything
bad happens, they assume just one more half-baked
law is the solution.

On 1/7/2012 9:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.


Last fall I had to show ID to buy a bottle of Marine Formula STA-BIL at
a Walmart here in Michigan.

Ironically, I have to buy the STA-BIL to try and counteract the ****ing
ethanol the government forces refiners to put in gasoline.

Government stupidity is out of control here.

On 1/7/2012 10:01 AM, Jack Hoff wrote:
On 1/7/2012 9:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.


Last fall I had to show ID to buy a bottle of Marine Formula STA-BIL at
a Walmart here in Michigan.

Ironically, I have to buy the STA-BIL to try and counteract the ****ing
ethanol the government forces refiners to put in gasoline.

Government stupidity is out of control here.

Couple of years ago, Walmart checked my age to buy a brick of .22's. I
was only a kid in my late 60's at the time.

Then there was K-mart that wanted to know if I was over 17 to buy a
bottle of doe pee lure. When I gave the clerk a birth date that said I
would be in my 40's, the women in back of me at the cashier's line damn
near fell on the floor laughing.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.



State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.


Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.

First, we must establish if pencils have legitimate sporting purpose?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
news
Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.

On 1/7/2012 9:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

We are trying to catch up to to say Canada's numerous and extensive gun
control restrictions.

On 1/7/2012 10:23 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.



State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.


Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.

I always thought banning wet floors and icy roads would be a good thing...

Unfortunately the pathetic defense goes something like "well you already
need to produce an ID card to do "x" as if that is a good thing.

Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...hu_mixdown.mp3

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...drain-cleaner/

OK, the news media makes their living selling commercial time, to sell
that they have to have viewers, crying mothers are good for grabbing
viewers so that is what they do at least per newscast..., then the
public demands something ought to be done about what caused the mom to
bawl her eyes out on the 6PM news,... and soon there is another new law.
With this latest Shotgun Sarah news don't be surprised if can
get a law requiring single mom's to have a double barrel 12 gauge in
their trailer home.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/04...cher-on-phone/

George wrote:

This is how you're losing your liberty in the USA.

We are trying to catch up to to say Canada's numerous and extensive
gun control restrictions.

You know, we probably don't have that many restrictions on long guns
(firearms mainly used for hunting that is).

But at least we don't have to show ID to buy Sudafed (pseudoephedrine).

And our highways, railway, bus and subway stations don't have federal
agents who compel you to submit to their searches or else you don't
travel.

And we don't provide fingerprints to get drivers licenses.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.



State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.


Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.

In high school In the 40's a kid stuck me in the buttocks and I had to go to
the school nurse to have the broken piece removed.
Also last year had to show ID to purchase Acetone or MEK don't recall which
one at Ace Hardware because had something to do with
people making some type of drugs. Everyone at the store knows me, but they
must keep records of those sales. WW

In article ,
Jack Hoff wrote:

On 1/7/2012 9:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) * A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.


Last fall I had to show ID to buy a bottle of Marine Formula STA-BIL at
a Walmart here in Michigan.

Ironically, I have to buy the STA-BIL to try and counteract the ****ing
ethanol the government forces refiners to put in gasoline.

Government stupidity is out of control here.
Yeha and it always works so well. I mean having to show ID to buy
Sudafed has solved that meth problem.

--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz

The Daring Dufas wrote in
:

On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign
a log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of
the store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the
(cashier) and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown.
mp3

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one
called police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call
police immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date
of birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date
and time of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the
net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator
claimed not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other
retailers in the area. He said he and other store personnel had to
call to a number of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in
the store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He
said he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill
will prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,”
Schroeder said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...photo-id-to-bu
y-drain-cleaner/

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

TDD


They're not all caustic?

In article ,
"Mr. Austerity" "PrintMo.Money " wrote:



With this latest Shotgun Sarah news don't be surprised if can
get a law requiring single mom's to have a double barrel 12 gauge in
their trailer home.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/04...der-with-11-di
spatcher-on-phone/

Actually it had been tried as a city in the 80s tried pass an ordinance
that everybody had to buy a firearm (don't recall right off which kind)
or pay a fine. That was tossed (quite rightly) because you also have a
right to not own a firearm under the second amendment. Another reason I
don't like the laws that say private property owners like malls must let
people carry whether they want them to or not.

--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz

Ed Pawlowski wrote in
news
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.



State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.


Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.

Socks & bagged ice Ed. Now THERE'S two things that needs to be controlled.
Do you know what kind of damage you can do with a sock full of ice cubes?!

Ed Pawlowski wrote in
news
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.



State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.


Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.


Yet we can't ask for photo-ID for voting.....insane.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Home Guy wrote in :

George wrote:

This is how you're losing your liberty in the USA.

We are trying to catch up to to say Canada's numerous and extensive
gun control restrictions.

You know, we probably don't have that many restrictions on long guns
(firearms mainly used for hunting that is).

But at least we don't have to show ID to buy Sudafed (pseudoephedrine).

And our highways, railway, bus and subway stations don't have federal
agents who compel you to submit to their searches or else you don't
travel.

And we don't provide fingerprints to get drivers licenses.

If all the low-lifes here find that out they'll be heading up!

Jim Yanik wrote in
4:

Ed Pawlowski wrote in
news
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.



State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.


Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.


Yet we can't ask for photo-ID for voting.....insane.



You're right! LOL!!!! not really funny though

On Jan 7, 2:50*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:





This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown...

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight..

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...-photo-id-to-b...

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

TDD- Hide quoted text -

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We have had this sort of thing here for a long time.
Some drain cleaners etc can be used to make bomms.
Lots of stuff over here has disappeared off the shelves or you need a
licence to buy it thanks to our scumbag muslim friends.

Would be bombers go to P@ckiland to learn the techniques of bommmm
making from household chemicals..

Best not to discuss it here, you may get put on a list by either of
our governments.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:01:52 -0600, Jim Yanik
wrote:

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.


Yet we can't ask for photo-ID for voting.....insane.


...and in Chicago dead people vote!

What a mess that city is known for. Somebody ought to build a fence
around the place. /rant

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) –

There it is:

-- Chicago
-- progressive liberal politician

They don't realize that you cannot write a rule for every set of
potential circumstances.

(Spit)

Now they have created a black market for drain cleaner.

On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.



Canadian education?

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:02:03 GMT, Red Green
wrote:

And we don't provide fingerprints to get drivers licenses.

If all the low-lifes here find that out they'll be heading up!

If they have vehicle tags from "gun friendly" states, the may well be
accosted at the border.

You need a tag from Chicago to get into Canada.

On Jan 7, 1:59*pm, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:
New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) –

There it is:

-- Chicago
-- progressive liberal politician

They don't realize that you cannot write a rule for every set of
potential circumstances.

(Spit)

Now they have created a black market for drain cleaner.

Correct, because the Illinois law only requires those who SELL
drain cleaner and other designated harmful chemicals to log the
transactions, there is NOTHING in that law which will prevent
someone from going across a state line to buy those same items
and bringing them back to Chicago to throw at an innocent
victim, nor would the recordkeeping aspects of said law require
persons who GIVE or PROVIDE such products FREE OF CHARGE
to someone...

All this law did was bog down the police with lists of people
totally uninvolved with any sort of criminal activity that they now
will have to eliminate as suspects when any future similar crimes
occur...

~~ Evan

On Jan 7, 1:01*pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote innews


On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:27:43 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

Eggs have been used to harm people and property too. *People buying
eggs should have to sign for them. *When I was in school a century
ago, a kid was savagely attacked with a pencil and it broke the skin.
Pencils are dangerous weapons and should only be sold to licensed
people with a real need to use them..

This is pathetic and sets a dangerous precedent to our freedom being
taken away.

Yet we can't ask for photo-ID for voting.....insane.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Apparently not in your state, but there are laws requiring photo ID to
vote in others...

On Jan 7, 6:50*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:





This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown...

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight..

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...-photo-id-to-b...

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

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Be better to outlaw politicians who have no brains....guess that would
be most of tham.

Harry K

On 1/7/2012 8:57 AM, wrote:
On Jan 7, 9:50 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:





This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown...

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...-photo-id-to-b...

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

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I's say just wait a bit. Looks like just another
example of a kook politician and other politicians
who didn't know what they were even voting for.
I predict it will soon be repealed. It apparently is
very broad and applies to more than just drain
cleaner. But it's a good example of the many
loon politicians out there today. Anytime anything
bad happens, they assume just one more half-baked
law is the solution.

Like The TSA? o_O

TDD

On 1/7/2012 11:54 AM, Red Green wrote:
The Daring wrote in
:

On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign
a log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of
the store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the
(cashier) and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown.
mp3

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one
called police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call
police immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date
of birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date
and time of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the
net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator
claimed not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other
retailers in the area. He said he and other store personnel had to
call to a number of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in
the store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He
said he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill
will prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,”
Schroeder said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...photo-id-to-bu
y-drain-cleaner/

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

TDD


They're not all caustic?

I know, many of them are very nice as long as you don't turn your back
on them. ^_^

TDD

On Jan 7, 9:27*am, Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reportshttp://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/cleaners-w2-thu_mixdown...

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...-photo-id-to-b...

Guess this lawmaker is too stupid to realize that drain cleaner is one
of the ingredients used in meth labs to make methamphetamenes.

Frank

You know how to make a northern boy so proud. You are the ultimate par
excellance! Y'all write more, hear?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

cleaner. But it's a good example of the many
loon politicians out there today. Anytime anything
bad happens, they assume just one more half-baked
law is the solution.

Like The TSA? o_O

TDD

On 1/7/2012 11:55 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In . net,
"Mr. Austerity""PrintMo.Money" wrote:



With this latest Shotgun Sarah news don't be surprised if can
get a law requiring single mom's to have a double barrel 12 gauge in
their trailer home.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/04...der-with-11-di
spatcher-on-phone/

Actually it had been tried as a city in the 80s tried pass an ordinance
that everybody had to buy a firearm (don't recall right off which kind)
or pay a fine. That was tossed (quite rightly) because you also have a
right to not own a firearm under the second amendment. Another reason I
don't like the laws that say private property owners like malls must let
people carry whether they want them to or not.


Kennesaw, Georgia in 1982, not "everyone" was required to own a gun. You
can read a bit about it he

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia#Gun_law

TDD

On 1/7/2012 3:26 PM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 7, 6:50 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:27 AM, Home Guy wrote:





This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign a
log.

It’s getting a rough reception from customers and merchants alike
although perhaps none more than a cashier at Schroeder’s True Value
Hardware in Lombard.

“They’re not very happy about it at all,” said Don Schroeder, one of the
store’s owners. “One of the customers actually threatened the (cashier)
and threatened to throw the acid on her.”

LISTEN: WBBM Newsradio’s Bob Roberts reports
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.co...w2-thu_mixdown...

Although the customer did not make good on the threat, and no one called
police, other employees of Schroeder’s said they would call police
immediately if any similar threat is made.

The law, which took effect Sunday, requires those who seek to buy
caustic or noxious substances, except for batteries, to provide
government-issued photo identification that shows their name and date of
birth. The cashier then must log the name and address, the date and time
of the purchase, the type of product, the brand and even the net weight.

State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) obtained passage of the new law
following attacks in which drain cleaner was poured on two Chicago
women, badly scarring them.

“So that’s who I have to call,” Schroeder said.

He said that when he called his local legislator, the legislator claimed
not to know about the new law. Neither, he said, did other retailers in
the area. He said he and other store personnel had to call to a number
of stores before they could get details.

Non-compliance results in fines: $150 for the first offense, $500 for
the second and up to $1,500 for the third and subsequent violations.

Schroeder estimated that there are “easily” 30 or more products in the
store that must be reported when sold.

Jewel-Osco has removed the few items it carried from its shelves, but
Schroeder said he does not have that option as a hardware store. He said
he does not believe that the precautions written into the bill will
prevent such crimes from occurring.

“How are they going to find out, by asking every customer, what kid
might have done that? It’s not going to solve any problems,” Schroeder
said. “It’s not going to cure anything.”

Link to story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...-photo-id-to-b...

Wouldn't it be easier to outlaw caustic women? ^_^

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Be better to outlaw politicians who have no brains....guess that would
be most of tham.

Harry K

I know, prohibit caustic woman politicians. I can think of one Democrat
right off the bat. ^_^

TDD

JimT wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

Canadian education?

Ebonics. It's what they teach you in the US - yes?

Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
"Mr. Austerity" "PrintMo.Money " wrote:



With this latest Shotgun Sarah news don't be surprised if can
get a law requiring single mom's to have a double barrel 12 gauge in
their trailer home.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/04...der-with-11-di
spatcher-on-phone/

Actually it had been tried as a city in the 80s tried pass an
ordinance that everybody had to buy a firearm (don't recall right off
which kind) or pay a fine. That was tossed (quite rightly) because
you also have a right to not own a firearm under the second
amendment.

Kennesaw, Georgia. It wasn't tossed, it's still the law. You didn't have to
BUY a particular firearm, but each head of household was required to have
one handy. There were exceptions for religious reasons. The law went into
effect in 1982 and, since then, Kennesaw has not recorded a murder, forcible
rape, or felonious mopery. Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate in Cobb
county.

Another reason I don't like the laws that say private
property owners like malls must let people carry whether they want
them to or not.

There are compelling arguments on both sides. Inasmuch as a firearm is
constitutionally protected, property rights must yield in the same way a
mall cannot prohibit colored people, women, athiests, or those who merely
smell funny. (Not sure about the last.)

Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) - A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign
a log.

[snip]

Three thoughts come to mind:

1.a. The law was sponsored by a Democrat, yet it is the Democratic Party's
mantra that a government-issued ID is discriminatory.
1.b. There is no provision in the law to accommodate those who do not have
and cannot get a picture ID. They're screwed.

2. If innocent citizens are being plagued by caustic chemical attacks, how
about allowing these private citizens to go about their comings and goings
while armed? Illinois is the only state that does not permit concealed carry
of a handgun. By anybody.

3. The occasional (rare?) attack by caustic chemical criminals is,
regrettably, the price we must pay for unfettered ability to have a clean
drain. I've never heard of anybody, looking at a very slow drain, saying to
himself: "I must endure this so that some uppity women can do their
uppityness unmolested."

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:jeahhi$914$1
@dont-email.me:

Kennesaw, Georgia in 1982, not "everyone" was required to own a gun. You
can read a bit about it he

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia#Gun_law

Indeed. A friend of a friend moved to somewhere near Atlanta and was
informed of such a law there too, more recent than 1982. He was informed
the law was still on the books but it wasn't enforced. Very nice guy (and
very nice wife) but you have never seen anyone who seemed less likely to
handle a firearm properly.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

Home Guy wrote:
This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

One piece of ID at a time.

====================================

New Law Requires Photo ID To Buy Drain Cleaner
January 5, 2012 6:34 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) - A new state law requires those who buy drain cleaners
and other caustic substances to provide photo identification and sign
a log.

[snip]

Three thoughts come to mind:

1.a. The law was sponsored by a Democrat, yet it is the Democratic
Party's mantra that a government-issued ID is discriminatory.
1.b. There is no provision in the law to accommodate those who do not
have and cannot get a picture ID. They're screwed.

2. If innocent citizens are being plagued by caustic chemical attacks,
how about allowing these private citizens to go about their comings
and goings while armed? Illinois is the only state that does not
permit concealed carry of a handgun. By anybody.

3. The occasional (rare?) attack by caustic chemical criminals is,
regrettably, the price we must pay for unfettered ability to have a
clean drain. I've never heard of anybody, looking at a very slow
drain, saying to himself: "I must endure this so that some uppity
women can do their uppityness unmolested."

Like pseudoephedrine, lye (drain cleaner) is needed to make crystal meth
etc. For pseudoephedrine-containing meds such as Zyrtec-D you need to
show your drivers license which gets recorded with the quantoty of
pseudoephedrine you're buying. Only so much per week is allowed, meaning
you 2 for the price of 1 coupons are worthless.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 1/7/2012 6:43 PM, Home Guy wrote:
JimT wrote:

This is how you're loosing your liberty in the USA.

Canadian education?

Ebonics. It's what they teach you in the US - yes?

Just another diversity language, eh? ^_^

TDD

Teddy Kennedy's car has molested more women than my drain.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

3. The occasional (rare?) attack by caustic chemical criminals is,
regrettably, the price we must pay for unfettered ability to have a clean
drain. I've never heard of anybody, looking at a very slow drain, saying to
himself: "I must endure this so that some uppity women can do their
uppityness unmolested."