On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

"Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote in
:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the
outside edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I
plan to remove the wheels because they are likely the same on the
inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick
and could be wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for
the tires.

It would be.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to
a tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after
painting?

Nope. That's really what you should do. You'll have a hard time removing
all the rust, and getting paint onto all of the areas that need paint,
while the tires are still mounted on the wheels.

On Jan 6, 8:18*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. *I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. *I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. *I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. *But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do *this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, *Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger. Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs

If you want to exclude the only really good way to do the job.... then, buy
wide masking tape and put on the tires.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote in message
...
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

On Jan 6, 8:18*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge.

On a utility trailer? That doesn't sound worth ****ing with.

Any suggestions on a better way to do *this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Anything else is a waste of time, as is anything other than
sandblasting, priming and painting, and that might be a waste of time
if the "edges" are scratched during remounting. A year later you'll
be looking at the same thing, if not worse.

If you're that anal, aluminum or powder coated wheels seem they would
be a better value.
-----

- gpsman

Limp Arbor wrote the following:
On Jan 6, 8:18 am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger.

....and you get older.

Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs



--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

On Jan 6, 8:51*am, Limp Arbor wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:18*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. *I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. *I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. *I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. *But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do *this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, *Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. *You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. *The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger. *Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs

Check this guy out...Looks like a truck tire. 49 seconds. No air in or
out but still pretty darn quick.

On Jan 6, 8:18*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. *I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. *I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. *I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. *But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do *this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, *Bob-tx

I painted the 2 wagon wheels on my Haulmark 5 x 8 enclosed trailer a
year ago October. Tipped a local service station laborer a few bucks
to pull the tires for me. His hourly rate for the job was huge! ;-)
Saved me a lot of work..well worth it.

I used Hammerite Rust Cap paint, but as you can see by the thread I've
linked to, I was not able to get a smooth paint job because the
product is so thick and drys so quickly.

I just used some more on a flat panel last month and ran into the same
application issues. I'll admit as I did in the thread below, maybe
it's just me.

Anyway, as far as longevity, I'm quite satisfied. I painted the rims
over a year ago and they're still rust-free. If I ever need a quality
finish on something, I'll probably try the much more expensive spray
version of the product.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...5d12d4c8ecd580

On Jan 6, 11:55*am, gpsman wrote:

snip

aluminum or powder coated wheels seem they would
be a better value.

snip

My experience with powder coating is less than great. It goes on real
thick, is brittle, and fractures easily on impact. Rustoleum might be
a better choice for a wheel.

Joe

On Jan 6, 12:55*pm, gpsman wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:18*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge.

On a utility trailer? *That doesn't sound worth ****ing with.

Any suggestions on a better way to do *this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Anything else is a waste of time, as is anything other than
sandblasting, priming and painting, and that might be a waste of time
if the "edges" are scratched during remounting. *A year later you'll
be looking at the same thing, if not worse.

If you're that anal, aluminum or powder coated wheels seem they would
be a better value.

If the wheel is small enough, an electrolytic derust tank is also an
option.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/orrin/rustdemo.htm

Clean with oven cleaner first, then pop in in the tank. Come back a
day later and unless it's badly rusted, all the rust is magically
gone. First saw this when a friend tried it years ago and it is now
my favorite way to "restore" anything that will fit in one of those
plastic tote things. (if I were really serious, I'd just get a bigger
container.) Low effort and works better than any other method I've
ever tried.

nate

"Limp Arbor" wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 8:18 am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could
be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger. Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs


A good vid - I have seen people do that years ago, but I'm nearly 80 years
old, and the old bod just can't do that kind of stuff anymore. But, I
appreciate the idea. Bob-tx

On Jan 6, 3:10*pm, N8N wrote:

If the wheel is small enough, an electrolytic derust tank is also an
option.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/orrin/rustdemo.htm

Clean with oven cleaner first, then pop in in the tank. *Come back a
day later and unless it's badly rusted, all the rust is magically
gone. *First saw this when a friend tried it years ago and it is now
my favorite way to "restore" anything that will fit in one of those
plastic tote things. *(if I were really serious, I'd just get a bigger
container.) *Low effort and works better than any other method I've
ever tried.

nate


I too have used electrolytic rust removal but I am not convinced of
its use. I did an old hand plane and the rust was definitely gone but
even with a quick hand dry and heating it seemed to rust again
quickly.

I have read other complaints of rapid re-rusting after using this
method.

On 1/6/2012 2:16 PM, Bob-tx wrote:
....

... but I'm nearly 80 years old,...

Hell, in that case don't worry about the rims, they'll outlast you as
they are--go do something fun instead!

--

On Jan 6, 3:20*pm, Limp Arbor wrote:
On Jan 6, 3:10*pm, N8N wrote:







If the wheel is small enough, an electrolytic derust tank is also an
option.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/orrin/rustdemo.htm

Clean with oven cleaner first, then pop in in the tank. *Come back a
day later and unless it's badly rusted, all the rust is magically
gone. *First saw this when a friend tried it years ago and it is now
my favorite way to "restore" anything that will fit in one of those
plastic tote things. *(if I were really serious, I'd just get a bigger
container.) *Low effort and works better than any other method I've
ever tried.

nate

I too have used electrolytic rust removal but I am not convinced of
its use. *I did an old hand plane and the rust was definitely gone but
even with a quick hand dry and heating it seemed to rust again
quickly.

I have read other complaints of rapid re-rusting after using this
method.

That is most definitely true. I would not use that process on any
part that wasn't going to be painted/coated immediately. For
something like your plane I guess I would dunk it in oil as soon as
you wiped it down, if you chose to use that process.

nate

On 1/6/2012 1:38 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:51 am, Limp wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:18 am, "Bob-tx"Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger. Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs

Check this guy out...Looks like a truck tire. 49 seconds. No air in or
out but still pretty darn quick.

Looks like he already broke the bead and lubed it up then refilled it
with air before the video. Something shiny shows up now and then on the
video, I think it's lube of some sort. Still fast but misleading.

On 1/6/2012 1:53 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:18 am, "Bob-tx"Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

I painted the 2 wagon wheels on my Haulmark 5 x 8 enclosed trailer a
year ago October. Tipped a local service station laborer a few bucks
to pull the tires for me. His hourly rate for the job was huge! ;-)
Saved me a lot of work..well worth it.

I used Hammerite Rust Cap paint, but as you can see by the thread I've
linked to, I was not able to get a smooth paint job because the
product is so thick and drys so quickly.

I just used some more on a flat panel last month and ran into the same
application issues. I'll admit as I did in the thread below, maybe
it's just me.

Anyway, as far as longevity, I'm quite satisfied. I painted the rims
over a year ago and they're still rust-free. If I ever need a quality
finish on something, I'll probably try the much more expensive spray
version of the product.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...5d12d4c8ecd580


I can't imagine getting a good finish brushing on Hammerite paint. The
spray cans always worked well for me but it does take a little practice
to get a nice even hammered looking finish. (other manufacturers call
it "Hammertone") I sprayed the wheels on my van a couple years ago and
the paint does hold up well to rust.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx
Vaseline is a common solution - used for decades. A synthetic grease
might , theoretically, be better - but if you wipe the vaseline off as
soon as the paint dries it won't hurt anything.

Like I said - it's been done, commonly, for decades.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx
Although greasing the tire will work, you will not get the rust
between the rim and the bead - which is what really matters - and the
rust will just come back. So much BETTER - long term - to remove the
tires (or just deflate - break the bead, and clean up as much as you
can reach - then paint and let dry before re-inflating).

This avoids the likelihood of damaging the new paint when
re-installing the tires -- and it WILL happen.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:38:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:51Â*am, Limp Arbor wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:18Â*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. Â*I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. Â*I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. Â*I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. Â*But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do Â*this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Â*Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. Â*You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. Â*The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger. Â*Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs

Check this guy out...Looks like a truck tire. 49 seconds. No air in or
out but still pretty darn quick.
I used to do tire changes - remove from car, dismount old, remount
new, and reinstall, in 6 minutes flat (24 minutes to change 4 tires).
I was a younger man then.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:53:27 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:18Â*am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. Â*I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. Â*I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. Â*I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. Â*But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do Â*this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Â*Bob-tx

I painted the 2 wagon wheels on my Haulmark 5 x 8 enclosed trailer a
year ago October. Tipped a local service station laborer a few bucks
to pull the tires for me. His hourly rate for the job was huge! ;-)
Saved me a lot of work..well worth it.

I used Hammerite Rust Cap paint, but as you can see by the thread I've
linked to, I was not able to get a smooth paint job because the
product is so thick and drys so quickly.

I just used some more on a flat panel last month and ran into the same
application issues. I'll admit as I did in the thread below, maybe
it's just me.

Anyway, as far as longevity, I'm quite satisfied. I painted the rims
over a year ago and they're still rust-free. If I ever need a quality
finish on something, I'll probably try the much more expensive spray
version of the product.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...5d12d4c8ecd580


Put the can of Hammerite in hot water for 10 minutes before spraying.
About 125 F - and you'll be AMAZED at how much better it sprays!!! It
thins out so it sprays a finer spray - and it flows better when it
hits. And yes - it dries a wee bit faster - but the other advantages
outweigh the faster dry time.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:43:32 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote:

On Jan 6, 11:55Â*am, gpsman wrote:

snip

aluminum or powder coated wheels seem they would
be a better value.

snip

My experience with powder coating is less than great. It goes on real
thick, is brittle, and fractures easily on impact. Rustoleum might be
a better choice for a wheel.

Joe
Powder coat still looks good, on the surface, untill it is all rusty
in behind and it all comes off in one sheet.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:06:31 -0800 (PST), N8N
wrote:

On Jan 6, 3:20Â*pm, Limp Arbor wrote:
On Jan 6, 3:10Â*pm, N8N wrote:







If the wheel is small enough, an electrolytic derust tank is also an
option.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/orrin/rustdemo.htm

Clean with oven cleaner first, then pop in in the tank. Â*Come back a
day later and unless it's badly rusted, all the rust is magically
gone. Â*First saw this when a friend tried it years ago and it is now
my favorite way to "restore" anything that will fit in one of those
plastic tote things. Â*(if I were really serious, I'd just get a bigger
container.) Â*Low effort and works better than any other method I've
ever tried.

nate

I too have used electrolytic rust removal but I am not convinced of
its use. Â*I did an old hand plane and the rust was definitely gone but
even with a quick hand dry and heating it seemed to rust again
quickly.

I have read other complaints of rapid re-rusting after using this
method.

That is most definitely true. I would not use that process on any
part that wasn't going to be painted/coated immediately. For
something like your plane I guess I would dunk it in oil as soon as
you wiped it down, if you chose to use that process.

nate
That is true of ANY de-rusting process. Rust CONVERSION processes do
no generally allow the metal to re-rust as quickly.
Even after sand-blasting or sanding to remove rust, rust re-occurs
quickly. Just a wipe with Kerosene or WD40 will protect it against
"flash rust".

Boesheild is better yet

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

20 replies and no simple solution. Until now.

Lay the wheel flat on the ground. Take a newspaper and cut or tear it
into strips about 2" wide. Dampen them, then lay the strips around
the tire until it is covered at the wheel. Cover the rest of the
exposed tire and spray away.

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

Tire removal is the best, but to do a quick job without a lot of cost
and work, just put masking tape and newspaper on the tire. Since most
rims are painted black and tires are black, a little pain on the tire
wont hurt anything if you dont get the tape precisely around the rim.
Another thing would be to use brush on paint and a paintbrush. Anyone
who can paint with a brush should be able to stay on the rim and off
the tire...... use a 1/4" or 1/2" brush for accuracy around the tire,
if needed. Use larger brush for the rest of it.

I'd be more worried about removing the rust and using abrasives
against the tire than I'd worry about a little paint on the tire.

I should mention that I painted the rims on my farm tractor tires and
was not going to pay $70 each to have the tires removed and put back
on. That rim is silver. Rather than fuss with tape, I just took some
cardboard from a the back of a notebook, cut it a little round along
one edge to match the contour of the rim, and held the cardboard while
spraying the paint. I moved the cardboard as I sprayed. It turned
out real well. That tiny bit of paint on the tire did not hurt
anything. It's not like I'm trying to impress anyone with the
appearance or enter it in a show. If a little overspray did get on
the tire, a rag with some gasoline took it off quickly as long as I
wiped it immediately.


Thanks, that is what I will do. I am not doing this for cosmetic reasons,
just don't want the rims to rust.


Bob-tx

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

20 replies and no simple solution. Until now.

Lay the wheel flat on the ground. Take a newspaper and cut or tear it
into strips about 2" wide. Dampen them, then lay the strips around
the tire until it is covered at the wheel. Cover the rest of the
exposed tire and spray away.

Thanks, the simple way is often the best and easiest.
Bob-tx

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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"Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote in
:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the
outside edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I
plan to remove the wheels because they are likely the same on the
inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick
and could be wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for
the tires.

It would be.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to
a tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after
painting?

Nope. That's really what you should do. You'll have a hard time removing
all the rust, and getting paint onto all of the areas that need paint,
while the tires are still mounted on the wheels.

Ditto that. Do it once, do it right. If you are going to keep them for a
while, have them powdercoated. It is not that expensive.

Steve

"willshak" wrote in message
m...
Limp Arbor wrote the following:
On Jan 6, 8:18 am, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:
On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the
outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to
remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and could
be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after
painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

Doug is correct pull the tires. You can do it yourself with two big
prybars. The hardest part is breaking the bead which gets harder as
your rims/tires get bigger.

...and you get older.

Should be no problem on a utility
trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcVp8XctRs



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Bill

My local tire store will hardly charge me for something like that. Most
repairs have been free, but I do go there when I need tires and brakes, so
they get it back. So, why even get my hands dirty. Or worse than that,
BREAK A NAIL?

Steve

Bob-tx wrote the following:


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the
outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to
remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and
could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after
painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

20 replies and no simple solution. Until now.

Lay the wheel flat on the ground. Take a newspaper and cut or tear it
into strips about 2" wide. Dampen them, then lay the strips around
the tire until it is covered at the wheel. Cover the rest of the
exposed tire and spray away.

Thanks, the simple way is often the best and easiest.
Bob-tx


No one else mentioned it yet, but I may have missed it.
There is no need to remove the tire from the wheel. You may have to take
the wheel off the axle just to make the following easier.
Pull the valve from the tire and let all the air out of the tire.
Press down on the tire near the rim edges. You won't break the bead, but
just provide a space to place pieces of masking material between the
tire and rim to cover the tire. The masking material may be anything you
have handy. Cardboard, paper, aluminum foil, plastic wrap, anything that
can be pushed between the rim and tire. Cardboard may be the easiest
because it can be precut to the arc of the wheel rim and shoved in the
space. Work your way around the tire until you've masked off the whole tire.
Now just paint the wheel by spraying or brushing the wheel rim, or the
whole wheel.
After the paint is dry, remove all the masking material and refill the
tire with air.



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On 1/6/2012 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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20 replies and no simple solution. Until now.
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Why say you that?

I provided the easiest solution some time ago.

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On 1/7/2012 8:13 AM, Bob-tx wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:18:31 -0600, "Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote:

On my utility trailer, the rims are beginning to show rust on the
outside
edge. I want to knock off the rust and paint the rims. I plan to remove
the wheels because they are likely the same on the inside.

Obviously, I don't want to get paint on the tires. I thought about
putting
oil on the tires so any paint that got on them wouldn't stick and
could be
wiped off. But I don't know if the oil would be bad for the tires.

Any suggestions on a better way to do this, other than taking them to a
tire shop and having the tires removed and then remounted after
painting?

Thanks, Bob-tx

Tire removal is the best, but to do a quick job without a lot of cost
and work, just put masking tape and newspaper on the tire. Since most
rims are painted black and tires are black, a little pain on the tire
wont hurt anything if you dont get the tape precisely around the rim.
Another thing would be to use brush on paint and a paintbrush. Anyone
who can paint with a brush should be able to stay on the rim and off
the tire...... use a 1/4" or 1/2" brush for accuracy around the tire,
if needed. Use larger brush for the rest of it.

I'd be more worried about removing the rust and using abrasives
against the tire than I'd worry about a little paint on the tire.

I should mention that I painted the rims on my farm tractor tires and
was not going to pay $70 each to have the tires removed and put back
on. That rim is silver. Rather than fuss with tape, I just took some
cardboard from a the back of a notebook, cut it a little round along
one edge to match the contour of the rim, and held the cardboard while
spraying the paint. I moved the cardboard as I sprayed. It turned
out real well. That tiny bit of paint on the tire did not hurt
anything. It's not like I'm trying to impress anyone with the
appearance or enter it in a show. If a little overspray did get on
the tire, a rag with some gasoline took it off quickly as long as I
wiped it immediately.


Thanks, that is what I will do. I am not doing this for cosmetic
reasons, just don't want the rims to rust.

Then you should break the bead and get rid of any rust on the inside
where the bead seats, that's more important than rust on the outside.