Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

It's hard to believe that someone could be more embarassing that Bush, but this
guy might be able to pull it off.

On Nov 10, 9:28*am, "Bob F" wrote:
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

It's hard to believe that someone could be more embarassing that Bush, but this
guy might be able to pull it off.

Yep, he did pull a blunder but then one has to wonder how Obama keeps
from having such blunders...oh wait, he never says anything without
his teleprompters, even when he talked to a classroom full of kids.
When he does say something without his teleprompter he usually tries
to make sure there is nobody there to hear him or they have been sworn
to not report it.

Except when talking with the French President about Israel, then he
got caught with his size 12's in his mouth.

Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23 consecutive
quarters of economic growth, low interest rates, virtually no inflation,
dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

I miss Bush. Sniff.

On Nov 10, 11:18*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23 consecutive
quarters of economic growth, low interest rates, virtually no inflation,
dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

I miss Bush. Sniff.

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy that
began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2 wars, all
on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

by removing sadam he empowered iran, and created the conditions for WW3

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:02:38 -0800 (PST), bob haller wrote:

On Nov 10, 11:18*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23 consecutive
quarters of economic growth, low interest rates, virtually no inflation,
dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

I miss Bush. Sniff.

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy that
began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2 wars, all
on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

As opposed to three wars, still on borrowed money, $5T more debt and an
(optimistic) expectation of another $1.5T per year as far as the eye can see.

by removing sadam he empowered iran, and created the conditions for WW3

Pull your dress down. Your ignorance is showing.

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:02:38 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy that
began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2 wars,
all on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

As opposed to three wars, still on borrowed money, $5T more debt and
an (optimistic) expectation of another $1.5T per year as far as the
eye can see.


Without Bush's start, we'd be in neither Iraq or Afganistan now. Everytime Obama
talks about getting out, Republicans have a fit. And you claim it's all Obama's
fault.

On 11/10/2011 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote:
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

It's hard to believe that someone could be more embarassing that Bush, but this
guy might be able to pull it off.


Ranks up there with Obama saying there are 57 states.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:45:22 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:02:38 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy that
began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2 wars,
all on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

As opposed to three wars, still on borrowed money, $5T more debt and
an (optimistic) expectation of another $1.5T per year as far as the
eye can see.


Without Bush's start, we'd be in neither Iraq or Afganistan now. Everytime Obama
talks about getting out, Republicans have a fit. And you claim it's all Obama's
fault.

Everyone here knows you're illiterate. No further proof needed.

On Nov 10, 2:50*pm, Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

That was on even over here on the box.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23
consecutive
quarters of economic growth, low interest rates, virtually no inflation,
dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

It was just an illusion, Bub. The magical numbers sprouted from all of that
from the Feds spending trillions on post 9/11 security, wars, TSA, etc.
It's amazing how a little government deficit spending can falsely goose the
economic numbers. Now we're experiencing the crash of the speculative
bubble and runaway defense spending that made those high-flying numbers
possible - but not real. We also destroyed Iraq, the country that had the
most to gain from keeping Iran nuke free because they'd be one of the first
victims of Iranian nuclear aggression.

I don't miss Bush one tiny bit. I just wonder how long it will take to pay
off the mountain of debt Bush's incredible spending sprees and cowboy
diplomacy have left us? When will the Republican Tax Cut Fairy come and
wave her magic wand and make 10 years of war debt disappear?

I noticed that voters in Ohio have said "we didn't give the Republicans a
mandate to go union busting" and rolled back the changes that the Tea Party
& Co. tried ramming down their throats. How many times do they have to get
bitch-slapped to realize that NO ONE has a mandate when elections are won by
tiny margins? It was pretty easy to see by the tenor of the protests when
that law was passed that the Republicans had made a serious error in
estimating the support they'd garner for union hatchetwork.

In other news, Republican overreach around the US got knuckle-slapped in a
number of states. An anti-abortion amendment in Mississippi got trounced,
voting restrictions in Maine got overturned. The seething southwestern
anti-immigrantion agenda took a hit as Arizonans recalled the State Senate's
president, Russell Pearce and other elections indicated that the day of the
Tea Party may have come and gone. Now we will have to wait to see if
Wisconsin's Gov. Scott Walker will face a recall vote in the spring. As my
very wise journalism prof. said "the pendulum always swings."

With only Romney and P - p - p - Perry looking like they'll survive the
"Quickening" and Obama undoubtedly having some pre-election trick up his
sleeve comparable to capturing Osama, it's going to be an interesting year
ahead.

--
Bobby G.

Bob F wrote:
zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:02:38 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy
that began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2
wars, all on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

As opposed to three wars, still on borrowed money, $5T more debt and
an (optimistic) expectation of another $1.5T per year as far as the
eye can see.


Without Bush's start, we'd be in neither Iraq or Afganistan now.
Everytime Obama talks about getting out, Republicans have a fit. And
you claim it's all Obama's fault.

What's all Obama's fault? That the Republicans have fits? They don't have
fits like the liberals do (contrast Tea Party gatherings with the Occupy
crowd).

The question for this election is: "Are you better off today than you were
$4 trillion ago?"

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:48:11 -0800 (PST), BobR
wrote:

Yep, he did pull a blunder but then one has to wonder how Obama keeps
from having such blunders...oh wait, he never says anything without
his teleprompters, even when he talked to a classroom full of kids.

A couple weeks ago his TP's were stolen. Might have been in Virginia.

sigh

Robert Green wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23
consecutive quarters of economic growth, low interest rates,
virtually no inflation, dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

It was just an illusion, Bub. The magical numbers sprouted from all
of that from the Feds spending trillions on post 9/11 security, wars,
TSA, etc. It's amazing how a little government deficit spending can
falsely goose the economic numbers. Now we're experiencing the crash
of the speculative bubble and runaway defense spending that made
those high-flying numbers possible - but not real. We also destroyed
Iraq, the country that had the most to gain from keeping Iran nuke
free because they'd be one of the first victims of Iranian nuclear
aggression.

I don't miss Bush one tiny bit. I just wonder how long it will take
to pay off the mountain of debt Bush's incredible spending sprees and
cowboy diplomacy have left us? When will the Republican Tax Cut
Fairy come and wave her magic wand and make 10 years of war debt
disappear?

I noticed that voters in Ohio have said "we didn't give the
Republicans a mandate to go union busting" and rolled back the
changes that the Tea Party & Co. tried ramming down their throats.
How many times do they have to get bitch-slapped to realize that NO
ONE has a mandate when elections are won by tiny margins? It was
pretty easy to see by the tenor of the protests when that law was
passed that the Republicans had made a serious error in estimating
the support they'd garner for union hatchetwork.

In other news, Republican overreach around the US got knuckle-slapped
in a number of states. An anti-abortion amendment in Mississippi got
trounced, voting restrictions in Maine got overturned. The seething
southwestern anti-immigrantion agenda took a hit as Arizonans
recalled the State Senate's president, Russell Pearce and other
elections indicated that the day of the Tea Party may have come and
gone. Now we will have to wait to see if Wisconsin's Gov. Scott
Walker will face a recall vote in the spring. As my very wise
journalism prof. said "the pendulum always swings."

With only Romney and P - p - p - Perry looking like they'll survive
the "Quickening" and Obama undoubtedly having some pre-election trick
up his sleeve comparable to capturing Osama, it's going to be an
interesting year ahead.

You make some good points, especially about Ohio. Although I think the
over-all result is more mixed.

Regarding Ohio, specifically, the unions, I believe, dumped upwards of $34
million in the campaign to revoke the anti-union law. If I was in charge in
Ohio, I'd pass the bill again, this time exempting cops and firemen, and
encourage the unions to spend another $34 million. Eventually the'd run out
of money to defeat it.

As to Wisconsin, local governments are already saving bags of money because
of the new laws on collective bargaining. For example, in the past, as part
of the collective bargaining agreements, teachers got their health care
insurance through a wholly-owned subsidary of the state's teacher's union.
Now that insurance is open for bids, the premiums are only ONE-THIRD what
they were under the collective-bargain mandated vendor.

If savings like that continue, statutes of the governor will be erected in
every public square.

Regarding a possible "October Surprise" by the Obama crew, you may be
overestimating them. Chicago politics has never been known for subtlety. The
"surprise" will be an obviously Photoshopped picture of the GOP nominee
delicately removing a woman's garter belt from a goat, the spouse eating
monkey brains, or him (or her) carrying a big bag with a big "$" on it away
from the Chinese Embassy.

No, don't look for any finesse from the current White House crew.

As for a mandate, that may be in the eye of the beholder. In 2010, the GOP
picked up six seats in the Senate and sixty-three in the House. Last
Tuesday, the GOP gained control of both houses of the Virginia Assembly to
go along with the governorship.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:48:11 -0800 (PST), BobR
wrote:

Except when talking with the French President about Israel, then he
got caught with his size 12's in his mouth.

He showed his tell (as in poker).

In essence, he will not fuel IDF jets into Tehran.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:17:25 -0600, "
wrote:


Pull your dress down. Your ignorance is showing.

You don't see any flies on my watermelon, do you?

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:43:47 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

That was on even over here on the box

Stop getting your news from a cereal box.

HeyBub wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

We can only hope.
I miss Bush. Sniff.

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:22:20 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:17:25 -0600, "
wrote:


Pull your dress down. Your ignorance is showing.

You don't see any flies on my watermelon, do you?

No, just Haller.

HeyBub wrote:
Bob F wrote:
zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:02:38 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy
that began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2
wars, all on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

As opposed to three wars, still on borrowed money, $5T more debt and
an (optimistic) expectation of another $1.5T per year as far as the
eye can see.


Without Bush's start, we'd be in neither Iraq or Afganistan now.
Everytime Obama talks about getting out, Republicans have a fit. And
you claim it's all Obama's fault.

What's all Obama's fault? That the Republicans have fits? They don't
have fits like the liberals do (contrast Tea Party gatherings with
the Occupy crowd).

The question for this election is: "Are you better off today than you
were $4 trillion ago?"

HeyBub wrote:
Bob F wrote:
zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:02:38 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

yep bush was wonderful he set the stage creating a false economy
that began crashing as he departed the white house, and started 2
wars, all on borrowed money and ione for totally bogus reasons.

As opposed to three wars, still on borrowed money, $5T more debt and
an (optimistic) expectation of another $1.5T per year as far as the
eye can see.


Without Bush's start, we'd be in neither Iraq or Afganistan now.
Everytime Obama talks about getting out, Republicans have a fit. And
you claim it's all Obama's fault.

What's all Obama's fault? That the Republicans have fits? They don't
have fits like the liberals do (contrast Tea Party gatherings with
the Occupy crowd).

The question for this election is: "Are you better off today than you
were $4 trillion ago?"

No. The question is how long will it take to reverse the Bush crash.

HeyBub wrote:
Robert Green wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23
consecutive quarters of economic growth, low interest rates,
virtually no inflation, dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

It was just an illusion, Bub. The magical numbers sprouted from all
of that from the Feds spending trillions on post 9/11 security, wars,
TSA, etc. It's amazing how a little government deficit spending can
falsely goose the economic numbers. Now we're experiencing the crash
of the speculative bubble and runaway defense spending that made
those high-flying numbers possible - but not real. We also destroyed
Iraq, the country that had the most to gain from keeping Iran nuke
free because they'd be one of the first victims of Iranian nuclear
aggression.

I don't miss Bush one tiny bit. I just wonder how long it will take
to pay off the mountain of debt Bush's incredible spending sprees and
cowboy diplomacy have left us? When will the Republican Tax Cut
Fairy come and wave her magic wand and make 10 years of war debt
disappear?

I noticed that voters in Ohio have said "we didn't give the
Republicans a mandate to go union busting" and rolled back the
changes that the Tea Party & Co. tried ramming down their throats.
How many times do they have to get bitch-slapped to realize that NO
ONE has a mandate when elections are won by tiny margins? It was
pretty easy to see by the tenor of the protests when that law was
passed that the Republicans had made a serious error in estimating
the support they'd garner for union hatchetwork.

In other news, Republican overreach around the US got knuckle-slapped
in a number of states. An anti-abortion amendment in Mississippi got
trounced, voting restrictions in Maine got overturned. The seething
southwestern anti-immigrantion agenda took a hit as Arizonans
recalled the State Senate's president, Russell Pearce and other
elections indicated that the day of the Tea Party may have come and
gone. Now we will have to wait to see if Wisconsin's Gov. Scott
Walker will face a recall vote in the spring. As my very wise
journalism prof. said "the pendulum always swings."

With only Romney and P - p - p - Perry looking like they'll survive
the "Quickening" and Obama undoubtedly having some pre-election trick
up his sleeve comparable to capturing Osama, it's going to be an
interesting year ahead.

You make some good points, especially about Ohio. Although I think the
over-all result is more mixed.

Regarding Ohio, specifically, the unions, I believe, dumped upwards
of $34 million in the campaign to revoke the anti-union law. If I was
in charge in Ohio, I'd pass the bill again, this time exempting cops
and firemen, and encourage the unions to spend another $34 million.
Eventually the'd run out of money to defeat it.

You and the Koch brothers. Standard repub behavior. Just keep ignoring the
public response to your actions, and throw money at it to kill the results of
Democracy. Furtunately, the public is rapidly catching on to the reality that
Repubs don't give a hoot about the workers of the US. All they do is for the
billionaires and corporations. I think the repubs are seeing the beginning of
the end.

Home Guy wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

We can only hope.
I miss Bush. Sniff.

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?

Story: Some years ago, a black minister named Lee Otis Johnson was caught
selling a single Marijuana cigarette to an undercover narc. At trial, the DA
insisted that the jury return a sentence of five years probation as a notice
to the community that power or position was no defense.

The jury was out for 20 minutes and came up with a sentence of 15 years hard
time. No probation.

Two days later, our then-governor, Preston Smith, was to give a talk at the
University of Houston. As he approached the lecturn, about 50 black youth in
the audience jumped to their feet and began loudly chanting "Free Lee Otis,
Free Lee Otis,..." (say this to yourself rapidly, over and over - 'why' will
shortly become clear)

The governor, to his credit, simply walked off the stage.

On his way to his vehicle, the governor was surrounded by reporters who
insisted on knowing his reaction to the melee.

Governor Smith shook his head and said: "I have no idea why those coloreds
were yelling about beans (frijoles)".

If you think the "coloreds" were upset about Reverend Johnson, when they
heard the governor's remarks they started stabbing each other.

As for "numbskulls," I have another story:

On a second date with a lovely woman a few years back, she had me sit on the
sofa in her apartment while she skinned another muskrat or whatever women do
when they say "I'll be ready in just a minute." Suddenly there's a blast
from the bedroom: "That goddamn George Bush should learn some history!" (She
was evidently monitoring the nightly news on her bedroom TV).

"Uh, he has a degree from Yale," I volunteered. "In history."

"That's a goddamn lie," came the somewhat louder reasoned response.

[tap-tappity-tap on her computer]

"Ah, here it is," I pointed out. "He also has an MBA from Harvard."

By this time, she's looking over my shoulder, her little fists clenched into
white-knuckled balls. "The ****in' Republicans have taken over the
internet!' she hissed.

At this point, I concocted a complicated, but believable, excuse for
leaving. I think it was "I have to go."

HeyBub wrote:

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?

Story: Some years ago, a black minister named Lee Otis Johnson was
caught selling a single Marijuana cigarette to an undercover narc.

The jury was out for 20 minutes and came up with a sentence of 15
years hard time. No probation.

Your story seems to lack certain details:

http://www.hippy.com/modules.php?nam...rticle&sid=156

In 1968 (when Otis would have been 29 years old) he was given a sentence
of 30 years (not 15) for selling a joint to an undercover cop.

=========
Unfamiliar with Lee Otis' case, Smith asked a reporter, "What in the
world do they have against beans?" When the reporter explained what the
crowd was shouting, Smith said, "I thought they were saying 'frijoles.'"
The papers loved it, and the Lee Otis story took on yet another bit of
symbolic cachet, providing a perfect example of the clueless politician.
=========

Your "enhancement" that he was a minister and that the prosecutor wanted
to go easy on him, or that the sentence was "hard labor" doesn't appear
anywhere that I can find.

===========
Lee Otis was released after four years when a federal judge ruled that
his trial should not have been held in Houston.
===========

But stripping away all your added hyperbole, if you wanted to make the
point that Texas Gov. Smith was clueless, that much is apparently true.

As for "numbskulls," I have another story:

(lame story)

Bush was (still is) a numbskull, and so is Perry.

When they say "It's the sizzle, not the steak" - you Texans fall for it
every time.

You'd vote for a fence post as governor (or president) if it had
good-ol-boy painted on it. Brains don't matter to you as much as
swagger. In fact, having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:50:29 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related


I don't like the guy and would never vote for him. That said, the
media is making a big deal of this. Sure, it is embarrassing, but
what politician has not blundered? How many of us could be out there
repeating the same worn out mantra dozens of times a day, days on end,
and not screw up?

My guess is that the guy is tired and had a bad moment. Move on, try
to find what the politicians are really going to do and what they
think policy should be. Then make an informed decision.

If the media did not sensationalize every tiny error or personality
flaw, maybe we'd have a better pool of candidates to choose from. Even
if they did inhale once or twice.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:50:29 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

And this idiot who thinks he's god is good? This idiot who doesn't know
what the US motto is? This idiot who thinks its great to spend $250,000 to
create one job that nobody can find in congressional districts that do not
exist? This criminal who refuses to prove he legally has the right to hold
any federal elected office? This idiot who NEVER balanced a budget or
managed an organization. This idiot who thinks he can create jobs, when the
government is incapable of creating real jobs?

Michael Dobony wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:50:29 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

And this idiot who thinks he's god is good? This idiot who doesn't
know what the US motto is? This idiot who thinks its great to spend
$250,000 to create one job that nobody can find in congressional
districts that do not exist? This criminal who refuses to prove he
legally has the right to hold any federal elected office? This idiot
who NEVER balanced a budget or managed an organization. This idiot
who thinks he can create jobs, when the government is incapable of
creating real jobs?

Then there's you, idiot, who has no connection with reality.

Bob F wrote:

Then there's you, idiot, who has no connection with reality.

No, here's the idiot. The klown.

http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap...706700a6f9.jpg

Home Guy wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?

Story: Some years ago, a black minister named Lee Otis Johnson was
caught selling a single Marijuana cigarette to an undercover narc.

The jury was out for 20 minutes and came up with a sentence of 15
years hard time. No probation.

Your story seems to lack certain details:

http://www.hippy.com/modules.php?nam...rticle&sid=156

In 1968 (when Otis would have been 29 years old) he was given a
sentence of 30 years (not 15) for selling a joint to an undercover
cop.

=========
Unfamiliar with Lee Otis' case, Smith asked a reporter, "What in the
world do they have against beans?" When the reporter explained what
the crowd was shouting, Smith said, "I thought they were saying
'frijoles.'" The papers loved it, and the Lee Otis story took on yet
another bit of symbolic cachet, providing a perfect example of the
clueless politician. =========

Your "enhancement" that he was a minister and that the prosecutor
wanted to go easy on him, or that the sentence was "hard labor"
doesn't appear anywhere that I can find.


Thank you for the corrections to my admittedly porous memory. I hope you'll
permit some modest corrections to your corrections. 1) I didn't mean to
infer the prosecutor wanted to go "easy" on Johnson, just the reverse. 2) I
said "hard TIME" not "hard labor." 3) Fifteen years, 30 years, or life, he
still got a sentence far in excess of the usual one-year probation normally
assessed for a single joint. 4) It's my life observation that most
self-proclaimed black community leaders are pastors of one stripe or
another. I made a regrettable association for which I am truly sorry. As
soon as I finish this post, I intend to sit in the corner and feel shame.

But, all things considered, in the words of a great progressive: "The facts
may be wrong, but the narrative is correct."


(lame story)

Bush was (still is) a numbskull, and so is Perry.

When they say "It's the sizzle, not the steak" - you Texans fall for
it every time.

You'd vote for a fence post as governor (or president) if it had
good-ol-boy painted on it. Brains don't matter to you as much as
swagger. In fact, having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.

You say that like you think it's a bad thing. Swagger always beats sagacity.

I'd much rather have a politician that says "You **** with me and you're
****ing with the whole damn trailer park" than one who imposes a tax on
Christmas trees then says no, we'll delay it until we make a decision on the
Keystone XL pipeline (sometime after the next election).

Specifically, Ronald Reagan told the Soviets: "Tear down that wall." Jimmy
Carter, when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, pulled the U.S. out of the
Olympics(??!).

Teddy Roosevelt (is reported to have said) "The future of this country will
be decided in November by the voters; the fate of Morocco will be decided
tomorrow by me."

On Nov 10, 2:03*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

m...

Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23
consecutive
quarters of economic growth, low interest rates, virtually no inflation,
dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

It was just an illusion, Bub. *The magical numbers sprouted from all of that
from the Feds spending trillions on post 9/11 security, wars, TSA, etc.
It's amazing how a little government deficit spending can falsely goose the
economic numbers. *Now we're experiencing the crash of the speculative
bubble and runaway defense spending that made those high-flying numbers
possible - but not real.

I keep telling you to go take a course or two in economics
so you can stop making an ass of yourself. To attribute the
decent economy during the Bush years to govt spending
on security is totally bogus. And what exactly would you libs
have done after 911 Sent a cake to Bin Laden?


*We also destroyed Iraq, the country that had the
most to gain from keeping Iran nuke free because they'd be one of the first
victims of Iranian nuclear aggression.

Exactly how was Iraq going to prevent Iran from developing
nuclear weapons? The more logical scenario would be for
Iraq to acquire their own nukes. As for destroying Iraq, polls
of the Iraqis show the mahjority think the liberation of Iraq
was a good thing. Why is it that the libs, who are supposed
to be so concerned about everyones rights, usually wind up
siding with dictators?




I don't miss Bush one tiny bit. *I just wonder how long it will take to pay
off the mountain of debt Bush's incredible spending sprees and cowboy
diplomacy have left us?

We can start working on that right after we get done paying off
the $4tril that Obama has added in just 3 years. And the $10tril
his last budget forecast adding over the next 10 years.




*When will the Republican Tax Cut Fairy come and
wave her magic wand and make 10 years of war debt disappear?

Why is it only war debt that concerns you? The cost of both
the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan come to about $1.3 tril. That
is for two wars lasting a decade. Obama managed to add
$4tril in new debt, so war is clearly not the major cause of
deficits and the national debt.




I noticed that voters in Ohio have said "we didn't give the Republicans a
mandate to go union busting" and rolled back the changes that the Tea Party
& Co. *tried ramming down their throats. *How many times do they have to get
bitch-slapped to realize that NO ONE has a mandate when elections are won by
tiny margins?

The debacle the Dems suffered a year ago was NOT by
tiny margins.



*It was pretty easy to see by the tenor of the protests when
that law was passed that the Republicans had made a serious error in
estimating the support they'd garner for union hatchetwork.

Get over it. Union membership has been steadily declining
since the 70s. Voters in many states have had enough of
paying generous salaries, full health care benefits, then seeing
civil service folks retire at 50 to take on a second civil service
position while collecting a generous pension for the first. Of
of holding down TWO civil service jobs at the same time. Or
of toll collectors making $100K+, as is going on here in NJ.
So politicians are making some changes, like asking those
civil service workers to pay part of their medical insurance
costs, just like most of the taxpayers who are paying their
salaries do.




In other news, Republican overreach around the US got knuckle-slapped in a
number of states. *An anti-abortion amendment in Mississippi got trounced,
voting restrictions in Maine got overturned. *The seething southwestern
anti-immigrantion agenda took a hit as Arizonans recalled the State Senate's
president, Russell Pearce and other elections indicated that the day of the
Tea Party may have come and gone. *Now we will have to wait to see if
Wisconsin's Gov. Scott Walker will face a recall vote in the spring.

I'll just wait for the election that's less than a year away.



*As my
very wise journalism prof. said "the pendulum always swings."

With only Romney and P - p - p - Perry looking like they'll survive the
"Quickening" and Obama undoubtedly having some pre-election trick up his
sleeve comparable to capturing Osama, it's going to be an interesting year
ahead.

--
Bobby G.

So, now it was a trick capturing Bin Laden?

On Nov 10, 7:23*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Robert Green wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:V8ednd2Gu73EZCbTnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...
Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23
consecutive quarters of economic growth, low interest rates,
virtually no inflation, dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

It was just an illusion, Bub. *The magical numbers sprouted from all
of that from the Feds spending trillions on post 9/11 security, wars,
TSA, etc. It's amazing how a little government deficit spending can
falsely goose the economic numbers. *Now we're experiencing the crash
of the speculative bubble and runaway defense spending that made
those high-flying numbers possible - but not real. *We also destroyed
Iraq, the country that had the most to gain from keeping Iran nuke
free because they'd be one of the first victims of Iranian nuclear
aggression.

I don't miss Bush one tiny bit. *I just wonder how long it will take
to pay off the mountain of debt Bush's incredible spending sprees and
cowboy diplomacy have left us? *When will the Republican Tax Cut
Fairy come and wave her magic wand and make 10 years of war debt
disappear?

I noticed that voters in Ohio have said "we didn't give the
Republicans a mandate to go union busting" and rolled back the
changes that the Tea Party & Co. *tried ramming down their throats.
How many times do they have to get bitch-slapped to realize that NO
ONE has a mandate when elections are won by tiny margins? *It was
pretty easy to see by the tenor of the protests when that law was
passed that the Republicans had made a serious error in estimating
the support they'd garner for union hatchetwork.

In other news, Republican overreach around the US got knuckle-slapped
in a number of states. *An anti-abortion amendment in Mississippi got
trounced, voting restrictions in Maine got overturned. *The seething
southwestern anti-immigrantion agenda took a hit as Arizonans
recalled the State Senate's president, Russell Pearce and other
elections indicated that the day of the Tea Party may have come and
gone. *Now we will have to wait to see if Wisconsin's Gov. Scott
Walker will face a recall vote in the spring. *As my very wise
journalism prof. said "the pendulum always swings."

With only Romney and P - p - p - Perry looking like they'll survive
the "Quickening" and Obama undoubtedly having some pre-election trick
up his sleeve comparable to capturing Osama, it's going to be an
interesting year ahead.

You make some good points, especially about Ohio. Although I think the
over-all result is more mixed.

Regarding Ohio, specifically, the unions, I believe, dumped upwards
of $34 million in the campaign to revoke the anti-union law. If I was
in charge in Ohio, I'd pass the bill again, this time exempting cops
and firemen, and encourage the unions to spend another $34 million.
Eventually the'd run out of money to defeat it.

You and the Koch brothers. Standard repub behavior. Just keep ignoring the
public response to your actions,


Hmmm. I think the best example of that behavior is Obama.
Despite polls showing that the public doesn't like everything
from Obamacare, to his reckless spending, he just keeps
on keeping on.....




and throw money at it to kill the results of
Democracy.

The ones throwing money at killing Democracy are the Dems.
They threw $4tril away since Obama came to office. And their
increasing the size and scope of govt is leading Americans down
the path of becoming serfs for the state. How many days does
one need to work now to pay for it all in taxes?




Furtunately, the public is rapidly catching on to the reality that
Repubs don't give a hoot about the workers of the US. All they do is for the
billionaires and corporations. I think the repubs are seeing the beginning of
the end.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's why the Dems take just as much money from those
billionaires and corporations, right? And that's why in the
whole subprime mortgage fiasco not one person of any
significance has been indicted, right? What are Obama
and Holder doing? Under Bush, when we had the internet
stock market scandal, execs from Enron, Tyco, WorldCom,
etc were tried and are now in prison.

"Home Guy" wrote in message ...
HeyBub wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

We can only hope.
I miss Bush. Sniff.

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?

Have you ever been to Texas or met any Texans? 'Nuff said.

HeyBub wrote:

having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.

You say that like you think it's a bad thing.
Swagger always beats sagacity.

Sagacity. from sagax (of quick perception)

- The quality of being sage, wise, or able to make good decisions.

having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.
Swagger always beats sagacity.

I rest my case. Texans are fools.

I'd much rather have a politician that says "You **** with me
and you're ****ing with the whole damn trailer park" than ...

You'd rather have a politician that says:

"Fool me once, ..................shame on .....................
........ shame on you. .......................................
........................ Fool me - you can't get fooled again."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

The neocons surrounding Bush were constantly pulling the wool over his
eyes. He was constantly being fooled and manipulated by others.

Bush's comment about Putin's soul after a meeting in June 2001 is also
classic:

“I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward
and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a
sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the
best interests of his country.” He then added, “I wouldn’t have
invited him to my ranch if I didn’t trust him.”

Yea, his Texan gut-instincts were spot-on target, weren't they?

http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/01/0...o-putins-soul/

It appeared that every time Putin did something the West
didn’t like, the press reminded its readers of Bush
“looking into his soul.”

On Nov 10, 11:27*pm, Michael Dobony wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:50:29 -0500, Home Guy wrote:
Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in Bush's
klownish footsteps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-...eature=related

And this idiot who thinks he's god is good? This idiot who doesn't know
what the US motto is? This idiot who thinks its great to spend $250,000 to
create one job that nobody can find in congressional districts that do not
exist? This criminal who refuses to prove he legally has the right to hold
any federal elected office? This idiot who NEVER balanced a budget or
managed an organization. This idiot who thinks he can create jobs, when the
government is incapable of creating real jobs?


Republicans in 2002 thru 2007 "If you criticize a President during war
time you are a traitor."

Republicans in 2008 thru 2011 "It is OK to criticize a President
during war time."

wrote:
Hmmm. I think the best example of that behavior is Obama.
Despite polls showing that the public doesn't like everything
from Obamacare, to his reckless spending, he just keeps
on keeping on.....

Actually, the polls show thay like just about everything about the new health
plan.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:24:39 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:

wrote:
Hmmm. I think the best example of that behavior is Obama.
Despite polls showing that the public doesn't like everything
from Obamacare, to his reckless spending, he just keeps
on keeping on.....

Actually, the polls show thay like just about everything about the new health
plan.

We *know* you're crazy. No more proof needed. Please!

Bob F wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm. I think the best example of that behavior is Obama.
Despite polls showing that the public doesn't like everything
from Obamacare, to his reckless spending, he just keeps
on keeping on.....

Actually, the polls show thay like just about everything about the
new health plan.

Giggle.

Sixty-one percent of Ohio voters on Tuesday voted to outlaw Obamacare. And
that was including a huge union-member turnout.

Robert Green wrote:

We can only hope. Unemployment at 4%, DOW-Jones above 12,000, 23
consecutive quarters of economic growth, low interest rates,
virtually no inflation, dead Mohammadens piled up like cordwood.

It was just an illusion, Bub. The magical numbers sprouted from all
of that from the Feds spending trillions on post 9/11 security, wars,
TSA, etc. It's amazing how a little government deficit spending can
falsely goose the economic numbers. Now we're experiencing the crash
of the speculative bubble and runaway defense spending that made
those high-flying numbers possible - but not real. We also destroyed
Iraq, the country that had the most to gain from keeping Iran nuke
free because they'd be one of the first victims of Iranian nuclear
aggression.


Boy, you sure don't understand economics. Government spending drives DOWN
the GDP and destroys wealth.

We saw that when Roosevelt implemented all manner of government jobs
programs back in the 30's and we see it now with stimulus and government
subsidy money.

Home Guy wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.

You say that like you think it's a bad thing.
Swagger always beats sagacity.

Sagacity. from sagax (of quick perception)

- The quality of being sage, wise, or able to make good decisions.

having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.
Swagger always beats sagacity.

I rest my case. Texans are fools.

I'd much rather have a politician that says "You **** with me
and you're ****ing with the whole damn trailer park" than ...

You'd rather have a politician that says:

"Fool me once, ..................shame on .....................
........ shame on you. .......................................
........................ Fool me - you can't get fooled again."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

The neocons surrounding Bush were constantly pulling the wool over his
eyes. He was constantly being fooled and manipulated by others.

Bush's comment about Putin's soul after a meeting in June 2001 is also
classic:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward
and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a
sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the
best interests of his country." He then added, "I wouldn't have
invited him to my ranch if I didn't trust him."

Yea, his Texan gut-instincts were spot-on target, weren't they?

http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/01/0...o-putins-soul/

It appeared that every time Putin did something the West
didn't like, the press reminded its readers of Bush
"looking into his soul."

I agree Bush got fooled by Putin. Bush made a mistake there. But everybody
makes mistakes!

Heck, if God had consulted me before designing the gall bladder, I could
have prevent THAT mistake. We don't criticize God for one little slip-up.

h wrote:
"Home Guy" wrote in message
...
HeyBub wrote:

Will Perry become the next idiot republican prez, following in
Bush's klownish footsteps?

We can only hope.
I miss Bush. Sniff.

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?

Have you ever been to Texas or met any Texans? 'Nuff said.

You mean like Dwight Eisenhower, Howard Hughes, Walter Cronkite, or Janis
Joplin?