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What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal
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On Oct 13, 8:08*am, wrote:
What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? I've not seen putty used in that situation. |
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What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? For service cables, I use a weather head, bend the wires down prior to entering the weather head (drip line), and don't use anything to seal the holes. For wires entering through the wall of a building, I route the wire down, then back up (drip line), then use regular caulk. |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:12:26 -0700 (PDT), jamesgangnc
wrote: On Oct 13, 8:08*am, wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? I've not seen putty used in that situation. Dust Seal or Duct Seal Compound is the trade designation of the material. -- Mr.E |
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I've seen "Diversigum" used. At least, when I did HVAC
installs, that's what we used. The boss used to call it "thumb gum". -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? |
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Sunlight UV makes it brittle after a few years. But, it does
provide some sealing. Now, for the OP question. What is that putty? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "HeyBub" wrote in message m... wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. |
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What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? *Duct Seal |
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On Oct 13, 12:16*pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? *Duct Seal It's Duct Seal, or as manufacturers call it, thumbgrade. We use it only to seal conduits going into hazardous areas. It will prevent a dust explosion from propagating through conduit, at least in theory. They sell it in all the big box home improvement stores, BUT the actual purchasers are a very specialized group. The only people who buy much duct seal are airgun shooters. Duct Seal makes an ideal pellet trap, just fill a flat box with it. It absorbs a pellet silently and traps all lead dust. Every once in a while (few thousand rounds) you dig out the pellets and smooth out the duct seal again. Long ago I talked with an old timer at Johns-Mansville or whatever they were at the time who used to make the stuff. It's basically calcium oxide and grease, made in a big pug mixer in batches of about 1000 pounds at a time. Of course he wouldn't tell me the real recipe. |
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On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote:
wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. On the other hand the stuff (duct seal) electricians use is easily applied with your fingers without any mess and stays pliable for a long time. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... I've seen "Diversigum" used. At least, when I did HVAC installs, that's what we used. The boss used to call it "thumb gum". When I used to work in my fathers auto-body repair shop in the 1950s, a lifetime ago, we used a similar sealant to plug holes where wires and pipes went through the body. In those days it was called "dum-dum", it sounds similar. |
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George wrote:
On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. I have tried it. Six years ago to fill the voids around a new circuit breaker box. It's still there. In the event it does turn brittle decades from now, who cares? Bricks are brittle. As long as bricks, or Great Stuff, are not under shear stress, brittleness is irrelevant. |
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On 10/13/2011 10:27 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Sunlight UV makes it brittle after a few years. But, it does provide some sealing. Now, for the OP question. What is that putty? At work, the red stuff they use going through walls is described as fire stop. Never stuck my fingers in it, since it is up so high, but I always assumed it dried hard, like drywall mud. Or am I talking about something different? -- aem sends... |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:08:36 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Ducseal is one brand - often called DUMDUM. It if fireproof. I think the original stuff had asbestos in it - not sur what is in it now. |
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On Oct 13, 9:11*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:08:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? * Ducseal is one brand - often called DUMDUM. It if fireproof. I think the original stuff had asbestos in it - not sur what is in it now. Very fireproof. We used it around cadweld mold holes to contain the liquid copper when connecting copper cables to ground rods. |
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On 10/13/2011 4:42 PM, HeyBub wrote:
George wrote: On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. I have tried it. Six years ago to fill the voids around a new circuit breaker box. It's still there. In the event it does turn brittle decades from now, who cares? Bricks are brittle. As long as bricks, or Great Stuff, are not under shear stress, brittleness is irrelevant. Absolutely relevant for the application. There is a really valid reason why certain methods become standard methods. |
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George wrote:
On 10/13/2011 4:42 PM, HeyBub wrote: George wrote: On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. I have tried it. Six years ago to fill the voids around a new circuit breaker box. It's still there. In the event it does turn brittle decades from now, who cares? Bricks are brittle. As long as bricks, or Great Stuff, are not under shear stress, brittleness is irrelevant. Absolutely relevant for the application. There is a really valid reason why certain methods become standard methods. Oh, I mostly agree with conventional wisdom. So what is the "standard" method in the instant case? |
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There is also some stuff called "Coax Seal," available as strips in
small quantities used by ham radio operators to seal coaxial fittings out-of-doors. It is really sticky and never seems to harden. You need something like lacquer thinner to get it off! Any good ham radio supply house, or by mail order. Good for small jobs. /paul W3FIS |
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On 10/14/2011 9:17 AM, HeyBub wrote:
George wrote: On 10/13/2011 4:42 PM, HeyBub wrote: George wrote: On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. I have tried it. Six years ago to fill the voids around a new circuit breaker box. It's still there. In the event it does turn brittle decades from now, who cares? Bricks are brittle. As long as bricks, or Great Stuff, are not under shear stress, brittleness is irrelevant. Absolutely relevant for the application. There is a really valid reason why certain methods become standard methods. Oh, I mostly agree with conventional wisdom. So what is the "standard" method in the instant case? You mean you don't bother reading replies to questions that have useful answers? I believe there are at least three posts in this thread that list the time tested and proven product that is ubiquitously used by electricians. Just wanted to follow up on one of your other great suggestions. We are having a blast using that idea of yours to build shelf hangers out of light gauge wire. Unsuspecting people set a heavy object on the shelf and next thing they are on the floor under a pile of stuff. It is hilarious... |
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On 10/13/2011 11:27 AM, TimR wrote:
On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, "John wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? *Duct Seal It's Duct Seal, or as manufacturers call it, thumbgrade. I have never heard it called anything but "duct seal", but lots of products have different names in different areas. The last box I bought was labeled "Duct Seal" (Panduit). Where a conduit or sleeve goes between areas of different temperature where "condensation is known to be a problem" an _"approved material"_ is required to seal around the wires or cables (300.7-A). The seal prevents warm moist air from circulating to the cold area. Around here, inside the service conduit into a building is always sealed. There are other places where it is appropriate. "Fire stop" is to maintain the fire rating of a wall or floor, but should work. We use it only to seal conduits going into hazardous areas. It will prevent a dust explosion from propagating through conduit, at least in theory. Can't imagine protection to a hazardous area wouldn't require a seal-off fitting with appropriate seal material. Can't imagine duct seal being used as a hazardous seal. -- bud-- |
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George wrote:
On 10/14/2011 9:17 AM, HeyBub wrote: George wrote: On 10/13/2011 4:42 PM, HeyBub wrote: George wrote: On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. I have tried it. Six years ago to fill the voids around a new circuit breaker box. It's still there. In the event it does turn brittle decades from now, who cares? Bricks are brittle. As long as bricks, or Great Stuff, are not under shear stress, brittleness is irrelevant. Absolutely relevant for the application. There is a really valid reason why certain methods become standard methods. Oh, I mostly agree with conventional wisdom. So what is the "standard" method in the instant case? You mean you don't bother reading replies to questions that have useful answers? I believe there are at least three posts in this thread that list the time tested and proven product that is ubiquitously used by electricians. Oh I read the replies. It's just that I figured they were, to you, as cockamamie as mine. That's why I asked for your recommendation. I take it from your lack of reply that you don't actually have an idea other than disparaging those of others. Just wanted to follow up on one of your other great suggestions. We are having a blast using that idea of yours to build shelf hangers out of light gauge wire. Unsuspecting people set a heavy object on the shelf and next thing they are on the floor under a pile of stuff. It is hilarious... Only if you take pleasure in the misfortunes of others, which, when I think on it... |
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On 10/14/2011 3:04 PM, HeyBub wrote:
George wrote: On 10/14/2011 9:17 AM, HeyBub wrote: George wrote: On 10/13/2011 4:42 PM, HeyBub wrote: George wrote: On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Great Stuff seems to work. And who said you never give helpful answers? Likely you have never even tried it because great stuff isn't UV resistant so it quickly turns yellow and gets brittle. Other than that it looks great on those infomercials. I have tried it. Six years ago to fill the voids around a new circuit breaker box. It's still there. In the event it does turn brittle decades from now, who cares? Bricks are brittle. As long as bricks, or Great Stuff, are not under shear stress, brittleness is irrelevant. Absolutely relevant for the application. There is a really valid reason why certain methods become standard methods. Oh, I mostly agree with conventional wisdom. So what is the "standard" method in the instant case? You mean you don't bother reading replies to questions that have useful answers? I believe there are at least three posts in this thread that list the time tested and proven product that is ubiquitously used by electricians. Oh I read the replies. It's just that I figured they were, to you, as cockamamie as mine. That's why I asked for your recommendation. I take it from your lack of reply that you don't actually have an idea other than disparaging those of others. You mean this reply I made in this thread: "On the other hand the stuff (duct seal) electricians use is easily applied with your fingers without any mess and stays pliable for a long time." Or where I noted in my reply to you that at least 3 others noted the same product: "I believe there are at least three posts in this thread that list the time tested and proven product that is ubiquitously used by electricians." Just wanted to follow up on one of your other great suggestions. We are having a blast using that idea of yours to build shelf hangers out of light gauge wire. Unsuspecting people set a heavy object on the shelf and next thing they are on the floor under a pile of stuff. It is hilarious... Only if you take pleasure in the misfortunes of others, which, when I think on it... |
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Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ?
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On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ? Now it's "LGBT Poop" in order to include ALL the monkeys. I always called it by what was on the label,"Duct Seal". ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Seal Monster |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ? The same thing that happened to "ni**er rig" and "pollack threads", we evolved. |
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On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 7:53:35 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/6/2016 7:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ? The same thing that happened to "ni**er rig" and "pollack threads", we evolved. Anyone old enough to remember Jerry built? In any case, that's good enough for government work. -- . I always called it,"Jerry Rigged". ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Rigged Monster |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 18:01:16 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 7:53:35 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 4/6/2016 7:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ? The same thing that happened to "ni**er rig" and "pollack threads", we evolved. Anyone old enough to remember Jerry built? In any case, that's good enough for government work. -- . I always called it,"Jerry Rigged". ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Rigged Monster Around here there's a lot of "Jerry built" stuff - half the population is German ancestry. "Jerry rigged" is used for poorly done - also referred to, for some reason, as "jury rigged" |
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On 04/06/2016 07:01 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I always called it,"Jerry Rigged". ^_^ Jury rigged is more accurate. |
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"Uncle Monster" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-5, wrote: Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ? Now it's "LGBT Poop" in order to include ALL the monkeys. I always called it by what was on the label,"Duct Seal". ^_^ In the 1950s auto repair industry it was known as "dum-dum". |
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 17:39:24 -0400, "EXT" wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-5, wrote: Whatever happened to the old term "monkey s__t" ? Now it's "LGBT Poop" in order to include ALL the monkeys. I always called it by what was on the label,"Duct Seal". ^_^ In the 1950s auto repair industry it was known as "dum-dum". Still is. |
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On Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? Duct seal John Grabowski www.MrElectrician.TV |
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Helpful thread. Thanks all! Never knew the official name of this very useful stuff! |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:29:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote: On 9/14/2016 1:19 PM, wrote: On Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-4, wrote: Helpful thread. Thanks all! Never knew the official name of this very useful stuff! hmm. I still don't. DuctSeal |
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On 09/14/2016 02:29 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 9/14/2016 1:19 PM, wrote: On Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-4, wrote: Helpful thread. Thanks all! Never knew the official name of this very useful stuff! hmm. I still don't. Monkey ****. |
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On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 10:06:58 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 09/14/2016 02:29 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote: On 9/14/2016 1:19 PM, wrote: On Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-4, wrote: Helpful thread. Thanks all! Never knew the official name of this very useful stuff! hmm. I still don't. Monkey ****. A lot of people call it elephant dung. I just call it by the name on the wrapper,"Duct Seal". Wouldn't it be fun to buy a lot of it, put a new wrapper on it that actually read,"Monkey ****"? I could be a popular gag gift for contractors and mechanics. \(—¦'Œ£'—¦)/ [8~{} Uncle Monkey Monster |
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On Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? I was always told 30 + years ago it was called Monkey ****. |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-4, wrote: What is the technical term for the putty that electricians use to seal around service cables where they enter meter boxes, or pass through walls? I was always told 30 + years ago it was called Monkey ****. The counter guy probably knows that term but the real name is duct seal. |
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