We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90
through the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with a
double walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve


Wall may be less prone to having the flashing leak. Outside in the cold,
more prone to creosote buildup. The 90's may make it easier to open and
clean though.

on 9/26/2011 5:35 PM (ET) Ed Pawlowski wrote the following:

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90
through the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with
a double walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve


Wall may be less prone to having the flashing leak. Outside in the cold,
more prone to creosote buildup. The 90's may make it easier to open and
clean though.

I clean my flue pipe with a 24' chimney sweep kit. Straight run from the
roof to the boiler in the basement. It doesn't make 90º turns though.
What would you use to clean the level parts where most of the debris
will sit?

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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"willshak" wrote
I clean my flue pipe with a 24' chimney sweep kit. Straight run from the
roof to the boiler in the basement. It doesn't make 90º turns though. What
would you use to clean the level parts where most of the debris will sit?


Dull putty knife works for me. Takes but a few minutes to disconnect,
clean, reconnect the pipe. Four screws on the stove and pop it out of the
thimble.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:17:54 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Heated an 1884 Victorian for 10 years, Steve. The pipe came out of the back of
the stove (90ª #1), went up about 6' and turned (90ª #2) horizontal to and
original thimble, into the flue (90ª #3), and never had a problem.

The good part was that the original flue dropped below the thimble into the
basement where there was a clean out for the original (bricked up) fireplace.

Cleaning was simple. Every morning, I opened the ports on the stove and let 'er
rip. After a short time, I could hear the creosote dropping into the trap. I
followed this routine every evening at about dinner time.

I did have a chimney service clean the system once a year. Most of the crap had
fallen into the old flue section below the thimble.

I know this is not a direct response to your query, but my point is that 90ª
turns don't seem to hurt. Of course the masonry flue was over thirty feet tall
and developed one heck of a draft. :-)

We burned about eight chords of hardwood a year.



__________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

On Sep 26, 3:31*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"willshak" wrote

I clean my flue pipe with a 24' chimney sweep kit. Straight run from the
roof to the boiler in the basement. It doesn't make 90º turns though. What
would you use to clean the level parts where most of the debris will sit?

Dull putty knife works for me. *Takes but a few minutes to disconnect,
clean, reconnect the pipe. *Four screws on the stove and pop it out of the
thimble.

Very dirty work though. Straight run puts all the debris inside the
stove for easy pick up.

Harry K

On Sep 26, 2:17*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. *My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. *I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve

Straight is always best if there are no other considerations. One
thing in favor of straight. If you are using double or triple wall,
you do away with two very expensive 90 els.

Harry K

On Sep 26, 10:17*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. *My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. *I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve

Bends are always best avoided.
Two 90deg bends are definately unsuitable.
If the stove has a horizontal outlet,you can go straight out of the
wall and have a tee outside with a cleaning door at the bottom.
If it has a top outlet, straight up is by far best, poorer option
being two 45 deg bends to take it through the wall. Cleaning door are
harder to fit.
Modern high efficiency stoves need insulated chimneys however you do
the job.
The biggest problem with burning wood is tar/creosote. You will need
to be able to access remove the top couple of feet of chimney to
scrape off the tar (it won'tbrush out).

The biggest danger is chimney fires, the tar needs to be removed.
A significant chimney fire could burn the chimney out or even the
whole house.

You will need to make an air inlet to to room where the stove is. VERY
IMPORTANT. It needs to be as close to the stove as possible.
Failure to do this could lead to you being suffocated with combustion
products.

If haven't had a stove before, be warned, it is a filthy time
consuming business.Tell your wife if she wants one she can tend to it.
This is the best move you can make. Believe me, she will soon get fed
up with wood stoves.

On Sep 26, 10:17*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. *My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. *I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve

Further to above.
Best option is a room sealed stove, draws air directly into the stove
from outside.
Saves from drawing nasty cold air into the room you are trying to
heat..

"harry" wrote

If haven't had a stove before, be warned, it is a filthy time
consuming business.Tell your wife if she wants one she can tend to it.
This is the best move you can make. Believe me, she will soon get fed
up with wood stoves.

I used a stove for maybe 20 years. Four to five cords a year. Now, in
spite of the oil prices, it is much easier to program the thermostat.

If you have to buy wood, it is not a bargain.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:17:54 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.


I burned wood for 25 years or so.

I think your biggest variable is what kind of stove you have and what
kind of wood you're burning. If you use an old *not* 'airtight'
stove and don't just smolder it all day with green wood-- it won't
matter what your flue does, there won't be any appreciable creosote.

If you have an airtight and burn green wood or burn slow all the time,
those 90s will drip creosote that would just disappear into the stove
with a straight run.

*My* stoves went into masonry chimneys after 2 90s - but I never had a
bit of creosote. I always burned seasoned wood-- and burned a good
hot fire once a day.

That said-- even now that propane is costing me a tiny bit more for
each BTU produced, it is still safer, easier and cheaper than wood in
the long run. If I had enough free wood on the property I might
be tempted to put a wood burner back in. . . . . nah- I've got better
things to do with my time than fight with wood.

Jim

If haven't had a stove before, be warned, it is a filthy time
consuming business.Tell your wife if she wants one she can tend to it.
This is the best move you can make. Believe me, she will soon get fed
up with wood stoves.

I guess you just got a biatch for a wife. Mine goes with me to collect the
wood out of the woods, knows how to operate a 4wd ATV with a winch on it and
skid logs, knows how to run a chainsaw, knows how to run a log splitter,
and knows how to operate and clean a wood burning stove. It is also at her
request that we are putting in another wood burning stove. We also have a
wood stove at our mountain cabin.

Life must suck at your house. Well, with your wife, I probably couldn't
even say that ...........

Steve

On Sep 27, 5:18*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:17:54 -0700, "Steve B"

wrote:
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. *My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. *I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

I burned wood for 25 years or so. * *

I think your biggest variable is what kind of stove you have and what
kind of wood you're burning. * * *If you use an old *not* 'airtight'
stove and don't just smolder it all day with green wood-- it won't
matter what your flue does, there won't be any appreciable creosote.

If you have an airtight and burn green wood or burn slow all the time,
those 90s will drip creosote that would just disappear into the stove
with a straight run.

*My* stoves went into masonry chimneys after 2 90s - but I never had a
bit of creosote. * * I always burned seasoned wood-- and burned a good
hot fire once a day.

That said-- *even now that propane is costing me a tiny bit more for
each BTU produced, it is still safer, easier and cheaper than wood in
the long run. * * *If I had enough free wood on the property I might
be tempted to put a wood burner back in. . . . . *nah- I've got better
things to do with my time than fight with wood.

Jim

I've been heating with wood since, ummm, 1977. cut every stick of it
(6 plus cords/year).

Yes, it causes a mess in the house.
Yes, it is work but it keeps you in shape without having to buy a gymn
membership.

Currently ending this cutting season by removing 2 old, dying Black
Locust. Thinking I may quit cutting after that as I am approaching 80
at an very faster pace and am down to, at a max, 4 hours of that hard
physical labor - don't get a lot done for each trip out.

Harry K

On Sep 27, 3:14*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
If haven't had a stove before, be warned, it is a filthy time
consuming business.Tell your wife if she wants one she can tend to it.
This is the best move you can make. *Believe me, she will soon get fed
up with wood stoves.

I guess you just got a biatch for a wife. *Mine goes with me to collect the
wood out of the woods, knows how to operate a 4wd ATV with a winch on it and
skid logs, *knows how to run a chainsaw, knows how to run a log splitter,
and knows how to operate and clean a wood burning stove. *It is also at her
request that we are putting in another wood burning stove. *We also have a
wood stove at our mountain cabin.

Life must suck at your house. *Well, with your wife, I probably couldn't
even say that ...........

Steve

Well I guess yours must be a "redneck"
Has she got body hair like a monkey and a face like a smacked arse/
ass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nIZNcKns_I

That labor may be keeping you alive, and out of the old age
home.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Harry K"
wrote in message
...

I've been heating with wood since, ummm, 1977. cut every
stick of it
(6 plus cords/year).

Yes, it causes a mess in the house.
Yes, it is work but it keeps you in shape without having to
buy a gymn
membership.

Currently ending this cutting season by removing 2 old,
dying Black
Locust. Thinking I may quit cutting after that as I am
approaching 80
at an very faster pace and am down to, at a max, 4 hours of
that hard
physical labor - don't get a lot done for each trip out.

Harry K

On 9/26/2011 4:17 PM, Steve B wrote:
We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve



Going out then up IS a viable option, BUT, having said that, you want to
keep your horizontal run as short as possible and it should have some
upward slope to it. It would be better if this horizontal pipe was
insulated also as to keep the internal temp of the pipe up as possible
to prevent deposits. Straight out the top would be best. If you go out
through the wall and up you should still use the insulated or triple
wall pipe for the same reason even on the vertical.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On Sep 27, 5:34*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
That labor may be keeping you alive, and out of the old age
home.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Harry K"
wrote in ...

I've been heating with wood since, ummm, 1977. *cut every
stick of it
(6 plus cords/year).

Yes, it causes a mess in the house.
Yes, it is work but it keeps you in shape without having to
buy a gymn
membership.

Currently ending this cutting season by removing 2 old,
dying Black
Locust. *Thinking I may quit cutting after that as I am
approaching 80
at an very faster pace and am down to, at a max, 4 hours of
that hard
physical labor - don't get a lot done for each trip out.

Harry K

That's what I keep telling my wife when she tells me to quit. "you've
got enought wood" Too bad she's refering to the wood pile though. I
do have over 40 cords of B. Locust - should last me about 6-7 years if
I cut no more.

Harry K

Steve B wrote:

We want to add a wood burning stove to our bedroom/house wing. My wife
thinks it best to go up from the stove, 90 through the wall, and 90 through
the metal awning. I say a straight shot through the roof with a double
walled pipe with no 90's, much less TWO.

Comments from anyone with experience appreciated.

Steve

You will get slightly higher heating efficiency if you keep most of the
run within the interior so you get additional heat transfer and
radiation from the pipe. Transition to insulated pipe as you get to the
ceiling so the rest radiates better. Get a stove with sealed combustion
and a ducted combustion air inlet fed from outdoors.