Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

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Nate Nagel wrote in
:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate


You've checked http://www.repairclinic.com ?

On 09/18/2011 01:40 PM, Red Green wrote:
Nate wrote in
:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate


You've checked http://www.repairclinic.com ?

never used that site before, but I did check it now that you posted... I
do see a "moisture sensor" but no diagrams... although they do sell a
printed version of the repair manual... might just have to pop for it
($22) unless someone can tell me where said sensor is and how to
troubleshoot it.

thanks

nate

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wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

While online information from the manufacturer / distributor is normally
crap, just about every appliance I have ever seen had a printed diagram
inside, either on a label stuck to a panel in the appliance, or a packet
of diagrams in an envelope stuck inside the appliance somewhere. Open up
the dryer and you should find the diagram, unless someone already lost
it. I like to take the diagram out, scan it and archive it and put the
hardcopy back where I found it.

On Sep 18, 1:51*pm, "Pete C." wrote:
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. *Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." *Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

While online information from the manufacturer / distributor is normally
crap, just about every appliance I have ever seen had a printed diagram
inside, either on a label stuck to a panel in the appliance, or a packet
of diagrams in an envelope stuck inside the appliance somewhere. Open up
the dryer and you should find the diagram, unless someone already lost
it. I like to take the diagram out, scan it and archive it and put the
hardcopy back where I found it.




most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the
contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

Bingo!

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDeta...r=110.62082101

I have an old Maytag that has a similar system.
If the clothes (particularly sheets) get rolled up into a ball, the
outside can be dry but the interior still damp.

My machine (on the automatic sensing cycle) allows be to choose "more
dry" or "less dry".
Perhaps OP's friend's machine has similar selection?

cheers
Bob

Nate Nagel wrote:
Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

Hi,
Dumb question but who knows? Is the filter clean and vent is clear of
obstruction? Our dryer is Whirlpool with same type feature. It works.

"Pete C." wrote in message
.com...

wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

When we had one of those we discovered an unintended consequence.
Drying the kids' snow jackets the metal zippers never let the dryer shut
off.

Charlie

On Sep 18, 7:25*pm, "Charlie" wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message

.com...







wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. *Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." *Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

When we had one of those we discovered an unintended consequence.
Drying the kids' snow jackets the metal zippers never let the dryer shut
off.

Charlie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If the clothes tumble inside a drum, where can the contacts be that
the clothes are supposed to touch?

On Sep 18, 8:25*pm, "Charlie" wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message

.com...







wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. *Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." *Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

When we had one of those we discovered an unintended consequence.
Drying the kids' snow jackets the metal zippers never let the dryer shut
off.

Charlie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think there are several engineered solutions to the automatic dry
detection. I have fixed ones that have the temp sensor in the air
outlet as gfretwell describes. The air leaving the dryer stays cooler
while it contains a lot of water and gets hotter as the clothes get
dry.

"Pete C." wrote

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

And when the contacts get gummed up from using softener sheet they sometimes
don't work properly. My first thing to do would be to clean them.

"hr(bob) " wrote

If the clothes tumble inside a drum, where can the contacts be that
the clothes are supposed to touch?

Lower portion of the rear of the drum. In mine, plainly visible, but may
not be so much in others.

Nate,

Ok, This ain' t rocket science.

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDeta...elpVideoTab s

Play the video.

Dave M.

"Dave M." wrote in
:

Nate,

Ok, This ain' t rocket science.

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDeta...87223/525385?m
odelNumber=110.62082101#repairHelpVideoTabs

Play the video.

Dave M.



Hadn't actually visited the site lately. Never recall them having vids. The
most impressive things I noticed in the vid were.

No hammer.
No pry bar.
They show how to put it back together :-)

"Pete C." wrote in
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wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite
(electric) 110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes
are dry - it supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in
it, but when it shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp.
Now here's the annoying thing; other than a parts list (which
doesn't have anything clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing
gizmo") there is no info available on Sears' web site and all of the
manuals are "technician required to order." Anyone know of any
workaround to finding useful information online as to how we could
fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust
temperature and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set
of contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were
connected directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor
slowly charged during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended
the cycle. The conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the
charge extending the cycle.

While online information from the manufacturer / distributor is
normally crap, just about every appliance I have ever seen had a
printed diagram inside, either on a label stuck to a panel in the
appliance, or a packet of diagrams in an envelope stuck inside the
appliance somewhere. Open up the dryer and you should find the
diagram, unless someone already lost it. I like to take the diagram
out, scan it and archive it and put the hardcopy back where I found
it.

Used to be able to get many schematics freely online from
servicematters.com. No more I don't think.

Hadn't actually visited the site lately. Never recall them having vids.

Fairly new and a nice idea


The
most impressive things I noticed in the vid were.

No hammer.
No pry bar.
They show how to put it back together :-)

It's never as easy as the video. Something will go wrong.

Dave M.

"Dave M." wrote in :

Hadn't actually visited the site lately. Never recall them having vids.

Fairly new and a nice idea


The
most impressive things I noticed in the vid were.

No hammer.
No pry bar.
They show how to put it back together :-)

It's never as easy as the video. Something will go wrong.

Dave M.



Ah! I see you, as I, consider myself an informed optimist...aka pessimist.

"Dave M." writes:

Hadn't actually visited the site lately. Never recall them having vids.

Fairly new and a nice idea


The
most impressive things I noticed in the vid were.

No hammer.
No pry bar.
They show how to put it back together :-)

It's never as easy as the video. Something will go wrong.

The video certainly doesn't address my dryer.
But I have found it easy to find online instructions for my specific
dryer. Usually the hardest part is "how do you open this damn thing".


--
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On Sep 18, 1:10*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. *Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." *Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

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Rear of dryer lower left corner there should be an access panel.
Remove screws and remove panel there is a high temperature sensor
there and a place where the hot air goes outside thru duct. Remove
outlet pipe and look for hard lint at outlet. You may have to remove
some more screws but it will be there and cleaning from the top will
not remove it. Also get on Repair clinic and order a new high temp
sensor and replace while you have apart. This will make the dryer run
longer and dry the cloths.

On 09/18/2011 07:18 PM, DD_BobK wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:51 pm, "Pete wrote:
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

While online information from the manufacturer / distributor is normally
crap, just about every appliance I have ever seen had a printed diagram
inside, either on a label stuck to a panel in the appliance, or a packet
of diagrams in an envelope stuck inside the appliance somewhere. Open up
the dryer and you should find the diagram, unless someone already lost
it. I like to take the diagram out, scan it and archive it and put the
hardcopy back where I found it.




most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the
contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

Bingo!

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDeta...r=110.62082101

I have an old Maytag that has a similar system.
If the clothes (particularly sheets) get rolled up into a ball, the
outside can be dry but the interior still damp.

My machine (on the automatic sensing cycle) allows be to choose "more
dry" or "less dry".
Perhaps OP's friend's machine has similar selection?

cheers
Bob



It does, but it's always been set on "more dry"

he doesn't seem to have a problem just restarting the dryer a couple
times but it annoys me, so I was hoping it was an easy fix

nate

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On 09/19/2011 02:08 PM, teshaf wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:10 pm, Nate wrote:
Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

Rear of dryer lower left corner there should be an access panel.
Remove screws and remove panel there is a high temperature sensor
there and a place where the hot air goes outside thru duct. Remove
outlet pipe and look for hard lint at outlet. You may have to remove
some more screws but it will be there and cleaning from the top will
not remove it. Also get on Repair clinic and order a new high temp
sensor and replace while you have apart. This will make the dryer run
longer and dry the cloths.

makes sense, thanks. if nothing else a good cleaning is probably due

nate

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wrote:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate


The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..
I have a similar dryer and it won't really get the stuff dry unless
you set it to "towels" the maximum setting in auto mode.

Things to look at are anything that blocks the outgoing air. (plugged
louvers outside all the way back to the manifold inside the dryer).

I am sure some use the thermostat method. I had a dryer that started to
burn cloths in the auto mode, but worked ok in the manual mode. I trashed
it.

Greg

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

My Kenmore had an abbreviated trouble guide stuck in the control
panel. When mine stopped working (would not keep running after you
let go of the start button) the guide said replace circuit board. I
did and it fixed it. It's possible the problem isn't your sensor but
your circuit board. $99 part at the time. Take the control panel
cover(s) off and look for a trouble guide.

Nate Nagel posted for all of us...


On 09/18/2011 07:18 PM, DD_BobK wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:51 pm, "Pete wrote:
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0400, Nate
wrote:

Hi all,

a friend has a dryer that is really annoying... Kenmore Elite (electric)
110.62082101 - anyway, it shuts off before the clothes are dry - it
supposedly has some automatic moisture-sensing gizmo in it, but when it
shuts off, the clothes inside are always still damp. Now here's the
annoying thing; other than a parts list (which doesn't have anything
clearly labeled "automatic moisture-sensing gizmo") there is no info
available on Sears' web site and all of the manuals are "technician
required to order." Anyone know of any workaround to finding useful
information online as to how we could fix this annoying thing?

thanks

nate

The "gizmo" is just a thermostat that measures the exhaust temperature
and advances the timer when it gets to the set heat..

Incorrect, most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

In the oldest and simplest form I've seen, those contacts were connected
directly across a large timing capacitor. The capacitor slowly charged
during the dry cycle until the threshold which ended the cycle. The
conductivity of the clothes drained off some of the charge extending the
cycle.

While online information from the manufacturer / distributor is normally
crap, just about every appliance I have ever seen had a printed diagram
inside, either on a label stuck to a panel in the appliance, or a packet
of diagrams in an envelope stuck inside the appliance somewhere. Open up
the dryer and you should find the diagram, unless someone already lost
it. I like to take the diagram out, scan it and archive it and put the
hardcopy back where I found it.




most of the moisture sensing dryers utilize a parallel set of
contacts located somewhere in the dryer where the clothes will rub
against them. They work by measuring conductivity across the
contacts,
i.e. wet clothes=more conductive.

Bingo!

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDeta...r=110.62082101

I have an old Maytag that has a similar system.
If the clothes (particularly sheets) get rolled up into a ball, the
outside can be dry but the interior still damp.

My machine (on the automatic sensing cycle) allows be to choose "more
dry" or "less dry".
Perhaps OP's friend's machine has similar selection?

cheers
Bob



It does, but it's always been set on "more dry"

he doesn't seem to have a problem just restarting the dryer a couple

Just read to this date.. anyway try wiping and drying the sensor off with plain
water as fabric softener will sometimes coat it causing false readings...

--
Tekkie