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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to
put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Seems I would have to put in some kind of support or filler in between to support it. Has anyone ever done it like this, or should a base cabinet be put between the stove and dishwasher? |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
On May 25, 9:58*am, Mikepier wrote:
I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Seems I would have to put in some kind of support or filler in between to support it. Has anyone ever done it like this, or should a base cabinet be put between the stove and dishwasher? You would need support. You could do it with a piece of wood and a small piece of vertical front. I just buy the same kind of wood as the cabinets and stain and seal that sort of stuff myself but you can usually get pieces to do that with from the kitchen department you get the cabinets from. Just 2 or 3 times the price :-) I don't know of a reason that you can't but I've not seen that layout. The most important 3 things to work with when laying out a kitchen is the stove, the sink, and the fridge. You want to make a triangle out of those if possible such that you can easily move between the three. When you are cooking that's the common travel paths. Dishwasher is usually loaded from the sink so you want the dishwasher close to the sink. |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
You would need support. *You could do it with a piece of wood and a small piece of vertical front. *I just buy the same kind of wood as the cabinets and stain and seal that sort of stuff myself but you can usually get pieces to do that with from the kitchen department you get the cabinets from. *Just 2 or 3 times the price :-) I don't know of a reason that you can't but I've not seen that layout. *The most important 3 things to work with when laying out a kitchen is the stove, the sink, and the fridge. *You want to make a triangle out of those if possible such that you can easily move between the three. *When you are cooking that's the common travel paths. *Dishwasher is usually loaded from the sink so you want the dishwasher close to the sink. The dishwasher is next to the sink. This is a galley type kitchen, so I'm trying to come up with the best use of space and countertop work area. The gas/water/drain lines are all on one wall, so I'm pretty much limited as to where to put the stove/DW/sink. |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
On May 25, 12:13*pm, Mikepier wrote:
You would need support. *You could do it with a piece of wood and a small piece of vertical front. *I just buy the same kind of wood as the cabinets and stain and seal that sort of stuff myself but you can usually get pieces to do that with from the kitchen department you get the cabinets from. *Just 2 or 3 times the price :-) I don't know of a reason that you can't but I've not seen that layout. *The most important 3 things to work with when laying out a kitchen is the stove, the sink, and the fridge. *You want to make a triangle out of those if possible such that you can easily move between the three. *When you are cooking that's the common travel paths. *Dishwasher is usually loaded from the sink so you want the dishwasher close to the sink. The dishwasher is next to the sink. This is a galley type kitchen, so I'm trying to come up with the best use of space and countertop work area. The gas/water/drain lines are all on one wall, so I'm pretty much limited as to where to put the stove/DW/sink. I have a galley kitchen at our lake house and it has sink and dishwasher on one side. Fridge and stove on the other. I like that division as it creates reasonable space for counter top on both sides. It's nice to have counter top on both sides of the sink and the stove. And on the door opening side of the fridge. |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
On May 25, 12:13*pm, Mikepier wrote:
You would need support. *You could do it with a piece of wood and a small piece of vertical front. *I just buy the same kind of wood as the cabinets and stain and seal that sort of stuff myself but you can usually get pieces to do that with from the kitchen department you get the cabinets from. *Just 2 or 3 times the price :-) I don't know of a reason that you can't but I've not seen that layout. *The most important 3 things to work with when laying out a kitchen is the stove, the sink, and the fridge. *You want to make a triangle out of those if possible such that you can easily move between the three. *When you are cooking that's the common travel paths. *Dishwasher is usually loaded from the sink so you want the dishwasher close to the sink. The dishwasher is next to the sink. This is a galley type kitchen, so I'm trying to come up with the best use of space and countertop work area. The gas/water/drain lines are all on one wall, so I'm pretty much limited as to where to put the stove/DW/sink. So that would mean that your kitchen would have the sink/DW/range on one side of it and the fridge on the opposite side... The work triangle would still be triangular in that configuration... You will enjoy having all the counter space above the DW between the sink and the range... Just make sure that if you use a dish rack that you have room for it on the opposite side of the sink to keep the counter clear for prep and cooking on the range... It sounds like a thick sheet of plywood 3/4" would support the granite counter-top over the dishwasher with some sort of frame at the top to support it which would stiffen the plywood and brace it along the wall... As others have said you would trim the visible edge of the support with a piece that matches the face frames of the cabinetry... I would finish the exposed side of the plywood on the range side with a tough high gloss paint in a color compatible with the kitchen OR install laminate on the sheet of plywood that matches the color of the range -- this will make cleaning the grease and gunk that gets down there from cooking on the range MUCH easier and won't provide greasy wood which pests like to eat as food if you ever have pest control issues in the future... Leaving raw, unfinished wood in a kitchen is just not something that should be done, especially when it is located directly next to the major source of grease in the kitchen... ~~ Evan |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
"Mikepier" wrote in message ... I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Seems I would have to put in some kind of support or filler in between to support it. Has anyone ever done it like this, or should a base cabinet be put between the stove and dishwasher? I agree with James. You need a support but it does not need to be a killer one. A 3/4" end panel with a 3" filler strip on the front and back to form a vertical truss will do the job. The countertop should be supported all along the wall with a ledger board. Colbyt |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
On May 25, 6:58*am, Mikepier wrote:
I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Seems I would have to put in some kind of support or filler in between to support it. Has anyone ever done it like this, or should a base cabinet be put between the stove and dishwasher? This isn't germane to your question, but have you checked out the pros &cons of granite? I've seen negatives about staining, etc. Not minding your biz, but sometimes an app gets popular, like granite, and people take it for granite (bada bum bum bum). HB |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
Mikepier wrote:
I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Seems I would have to put in some kind of support or filler in between to support it. Has anyone ever done it like this, or should a base cabinet be put between the stove and dishwasher? No countertop, granite or otherwise, rests atop the dishwasher. The countertop must be self supporting - the dishwasher fits in a cavity (else how would you ever replace the dishwasher). Therefore you have to construct some sort of supporting mechanism for the countertop irrespective of what goes below the counter. |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
On May 25, 5:28*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Mikepier wrote: I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Seems I would have to put in some kind of support or filler in between to support it. Has anyone ever done it like this, or should a base cabinet be put between the stove and dishwasher? No countertop, granite or otherwise, rests atop the dishwasher. The countertop must be self supporting - the dishwasher fits in a cavity (else how would you ever replace the dishwasher). Therefore you have to construct some sort of supporting mechanism for the countertop irrespective of what goes below the counter. You need a 3/4 inch piece of plywood for an end panel, with some sort of finishing strip vertically along the front edgo for appearances. I can't think why you would need a 3" wide front pice except for appearance, the 3/4" plywood should be able to support the granite with no problems |
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Kitchen design: Can Dishwasher go next to stove?
Mikepier wrote: I'm doing a layout of a new kitchen in a condo. One idea I had was to put the dishwasher next to the stove, but then I was wondering, when we put the granite countertop, where would the countertop rest on where the DW and stove meet? Is this a narrow galley with everything on one wall? Or are both walls going to have countertop? If so, try to avoid putting them together. I think in time you'd find it annoying. The DW should be next to the sink. Ideal is to have the DW next to the sink and close to the cabinets where the dishes are stored. That gives the least amount of steps to load an unload. You want the fridge to be across from the sink and prep counter also. If you look at kitchen designs, the goal is to have a triangle of those three items to minimize steps. If possible, the sink should be under a window for best lighting, the stove on an outside wall for easiest venting. |
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