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It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -

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You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing
attic feed.

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On Jun 15, 9:17*am, "Joe J" wrote:
It's a single pole switch. *Also, there are no power runs in the attic or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You should have power in the box with the switch already. *You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing
attic feed.


You're going to get varying opinions about a solution. You'll need to
decide which one works best for you.

Solution 1. Personally I'm not big on ceiling fan/light remote
controls. It's just one more thing to break or get lost. All my
installations have a switch for the light and a 3-speed switch for the
fan both installed in a wall box. To do that you will need to remove
your old box, drop a 14/3 line down to the hole in the wall, install
an old work box, and rewire it. You have power at the existing
location so you can do this. Switching to a double box will give you
more room to work since you already have a number of wires in the box
that have to stay.

Solution 2. Another poster said just find power in the attic
somewhere and run it straight to the fan/light and use a remote for on/
off for both. You can do this as well. You need to make sure that
the wire you find in the attic is not on some other switch. Trouble
with that is that it is hard to tell. You can push the leads of a vom
through the insulation and test. Some people don't like doing that
as it leaves small holes. It's not really a problem. Once you find a
line that always has power then make sure you can get some slack in
it. You will need some slack to cut it and splice in your new line.
That can be a pain as welll as many electricians don't leave much
slack. You will need to mount a box on a ceiling joist or roof frame
to do the splice in. Run a new piece of 14/2 from that location to
your fan ceiling box.

As I said I'm partial to the first solution.
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On Jun 15, 9:17 am, "Joe J" wrote:
It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic
or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an
existing
attic feed.


You're going to get varying opinions about a solution. You'll need to
decide which one works best for you.

Solution 1. Personally I'm not big on ceiling fan/light remote
controls. It's just one more thing to break or get lost. All my
installations have a switch for the light and a 3-speed switch for the
fan both installed in a wall box. To do that you will need to remove
your old box, drop a 14/3 line down to the hole in the wall, install
an old work box, and rewire it. You have power at the existing
location so you can do this. Switching to a double box will give you
more room to work since you already have a number of wires in the box
that have to stay.

Solution 2. Another poster said just find power in the attic
somewhere and run it straight to the fan/light and use a remote for on/
off for both. You can do this as well. You need to make sure that
the wire you find in the attic is not on some other switch. Trouble
with that is that it is hard to tell. You can push the leads of a vom
through the insulation and test. Some people don't like doing that
as it leaves small holes. It's not really a problem. Once you find a
line that always has power then make sure you can get some slack in
it. You will need some slack to cut it and splice in your new line.
That can be a pain as welll as many electricians don't leave much
slack. You will need to mount a box on a ceiling joist or roof frame
to do the splice in. Run a new piece of 14/2 from that location to
your fan ceiling box.

As I said I'm partial to the first solution.


The first choice is what I'm leaning towards. The only two feeds I can find
in the attic are for the only two ceiling fixtures in the entire house.
Kitchen and dinette area and both are switched.
Anywho...my plan is to replace the single with a double box and then fish
the 14/3 in. I think it would be almost impossible to try and fish one into
the existing single box w/o removing it, so I might just as well put in the
double and give myself a little room to work. Too hot this week, a little
cool down expected on the weekend. Running out of time.
Thanks,
Joe

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On Jun 15, 9:17 am, "Joe J" wrote:
It's a single pole switch. *Also, there are no power runs in the attic
or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You should have power in the box with the switch already. *You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an
existing
attic feed.


You're going to get varying opinions about a solution. *You'll need to
decide which one works best for you.


Solution 1. *Personally I'm not big on ceiling fan/light remote
controls. *It's just one more thing to break or get lost. *All my
installations have a switch for the light and a 3-speed switch for the
fan both installed in a wall box. *To do that you will need to remove
your old box, drop a 14/3 line down to the hole in the wall, install
an old work box, and rewire it. *You have power at the existing
location so you can do this. *Switching to a double box will give you
more room to work since you already have a number of wires in the box
that have to stay.


Solution 2. *Another poster said just find power in the attic
somewhere and run it straight to the fan/light and use a remote for on/
off for both. *You can do this as well. *You need to make sure that
the wire you find in the attic is not on some other switch. *Trouble
with that is that it is hard to tell. *You can push the leads of a vom
through the insulation and test. *Some people don't like doing *that
as it leaves small holes. *It's not really a problem. *Once you find a
line that always has power then make sure you can get some slack in
it. *You will need some slack to cut it and splice in your new line.
That can be a pain as welll as many electricians don't leave much
slack. *You will need to mount a box on a ceiling joist or roof frame
to do the splice in. *Run a new piece of 14/2 from that location to
your fan ceiling box.


As I said I'm partial to the first solution.


The first choice is what I'm leaning towards. *The only two feeds I can find
in the attic are for the only two ceiling fixtures in the entire house.
Kitchen and dinette area and both are switched.
Anywho...my plan is to replace the single with a double box and then fish
the 14/3 in. *I think it would be almost impossible to try and fish one into
the existing single box w/o removing it, so I might just as well put in the
double and give myself a little room to work. *Too hot this week, a little
cool down expected on the weekend. *Running out of time.
Thanks,
Joe- Hide quoted text -

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Get the double old work box first so you knwo how big to make the
hole. Remove the old box, enlarge the hole for the new double old
work box, fish the 14/3 in that order :-)

Sometimes the original hole is a little too tall. Position the new
old work box so the swing tab on that side is at the edge of the wall
board.
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It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing
attic feed.


who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician, assuming
your time is worth more than a dollar an hour.

Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already ****ed
away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task on
usenet.


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On Jun 15, 12:17*pm, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote:

It's a single pole switch. *Also, there are no power runs in the attic or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You should have power in the box with the switch already. *You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.

That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing
attic feed.


who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician, assuming
your time is worth more than a dollar an hour.

Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already ****ed
away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task on
usenet.


The general tone of this group is mostly diy. It's a real pain in the
butt to find a real electrician to do a job this small. Most won't
bother. You'll end up with a a handyman which in many states is not
even legal because you are supposed to be a licensed tradesman to work
on electrical, gas, hvac, etc if the structure is not yours. Plus if
he does it himself he will have learned something along he way as well
as gained the satisfaction of doing it himself.
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote:


It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic
or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing
attic feed.


who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician,
assuming
your time is worth more than a dollar an hour.

Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already
****ed
away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task
on
usenet.


I'm retired, I've got all the time in the world. Just cuts into my golf
game.

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:58:47 -0500, Joe J wrote:

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote:


It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic
or
basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add
the fan/light to that circuit.


That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing
attic feed.


who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician,
assuming
your time is worth more than a dollar an hour.

Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already
****ed
away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task
on
usenet.


I'm retired, I've got all the time in the world. Just cuts into my golf
game.


Just smash out the drywall around the lightswitch. Put the wiring
into that box. Research next on drywall repair. :-)
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