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![]() It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. |
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On Jun 15, 9:17*am, "Joe J" wrote:
It's a single pole switch. *Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. *You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. You're going to get varying opinions about a solution. You'll need to decide which one works best for you. Solution 1. Personally I'm not big on ceiling fan/light remote controls. It's just one more thing to break or get lost. All my installations have a switch for the light and a 3-speed switch for the fan both installed in a wall box. To do that you will need to remove your old box, drop a 14/3 line down to the hole in the wall, install an old work box, and rewire it. You have power at the existing location so you can do this. Switching to a double box will give you more room to work since you already have a number of wires in the box that have to stay. Solution 2. Another poster said just find power in the attic somewhere and run it straight to the fan/light and use a remote for on/ off for both. You can do this as well. You need to make sure that the wire you find in the attic is not on some other switch. Trouble with that is that it is hard to tell. You can push the leads of a vom through the insulation and test. Some people don't like doing that as it leaves small holes. It's not really a problem. Once you find a line that always has power then make sure you can get some slack in it. You will need some slack to cut it and splice in your new line. That can be a pain as welll as many electricians don't leave much slack. You will need to mount a box on a ceiling joist or roof frame to do the splice in. Run a new piece of 14/2 from that location to your fan ceiling box. As I said I'm partial to the first solution. |
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![]() "jamesgangnc" wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 9:17 am, "Joe J" wrote: It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. You're going to get varying opinions about a solution. You'll need to decide which one works best for you. Solution 1. Personally I'm not big on ceiling fan/light remote controls. It's just one more thing to break or get lost. All my installations have a switch for the light and a 3-speed switch for the fan both installed in a wall box. To do that you will need to remove your old box, drop a 14/3 line down to the hole in the wall, install an old work box, and rewire it. You have power at the existing location so you can do this. Switching to a double box will give you more room to work since you already have a number of wires in the box that have to stay. Solution 2. Another poster said just find power in the attic somewhere and run it straight to the fan/light and use a remote for on/ off for both. You can do this as well. You need to make sure that the wire you find in the attic is not on some other switch. Trouble with that is that it is hard to tell. You can push the leads of a vom through the insulation and test. Some people don't like doing that as it leaves small holes. It's not really a problem. Once you find a line that always has power then make sure you can get some slack in it. You will need some slack to cut it and splice in your new line. That can be a pain as welll as many electricians don't leave much slack. You will need to mount a box on a ceiling joist or roof frame to do the splice in. Run a new piece of 14/2 from that location to your fan ceiling box. As I said I'm partial to the first solution. The first choice is what I'm leaning towards. The only two feeds I can find in the attic are for the only two ceiling fixtures in the entire house. Kitchen and dinette area and both are switched. Anywho...my plan is to replace the single with a double box and then fish the 14/3 in. I think it would be almost impossible to try and fish one into the existing single box w/o removing it, so I might just as well put in the double and give myself a little room to work. Too hot this week, a little cool down expected on the weekend. Running out of time. Thanks, Joe |
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On Jun 15, 11:08*am, "Joe J" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 9:17 am, "Joe J" wrote: It's a single pole switch. *Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. *You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. You're going to get varying opinions about a solution. *You'll need to decide which one works best for you. Solution 1. *Personally I'm not big on ceiling fan/light remote controls. *It's just one more thing to break or get lost. *All my installations have a switch for the light and a 3-speed switch for the fan both installed in a wall box. *To do that you will need to remove your old box, drop a 14/3 line down to the hole in the wall, install an old work box, and rewire it. *You have power at the existing location so you can do this. *Switching to a double box will give you more room to work since you already have a number of wires in the box that have to stay. Solution 2. *Another poster said just find power in the attic somewhere and run it straight to the fan/light and use a remote for on/ off for both. *You can do this as well. *You need to make sure that the wire you find in the attic is not on some other switch. *Trouble with that is that it is hard to tell. *You can push the leads of a vom through the insulation and test. *Some people don't like doing *that as it leaves small holes. *It's not really a problem. *Once you find a line that always has power then make sure you can get some slack in it. *You will need some slack to cut it and splice in your new line. That can be a pain as welll as many electricians don't leave much slack. *You will need to mount a box on a ceiling joist or roof frame to do the splice in. *Run a new piece of 14/2 from that location to your fan ceiling box. As I said I'm partial to the first solution. The first choice is what I'm leaning towards. *The only two feeds I can find in the attic are for the only two ceiling fixtures in the entire house. Kitchen and dinette area and both are switched. Anywho...my plan is to replace the single with a double box and then fish the 14/3 in. *I think it would be almost impossible to try and fish one into the existing single box w/o removing it, so I might just as well put in the double and give myself a little room to work. *Too hot this week, a little cool down expected on the weekend. *Running out of time. Thanks, Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Get the double old work box first so you knwo how big to make the hole. Remove the old box, enlarge the hole for the new double old work box, fish the 14/3 in that order :-) Sometimes the original hole is a little too tall. Position the new old work box so the swing tab on that side is at the edge of the wall board. |
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote:
It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician, assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour. Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already ****ed away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task on usenet. |
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On Jun 15, 12:17*pm, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote: It's a single pole switch. *Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. *You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician, assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour. Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already ****ed away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task on usenet. The general tone of this group is mostly diy. It's a real pain in the butt to find a real electrician to do a job this small. Most won't bother. You'll end up with a a handyman which in many states is not even legal because you are supposed to be a licensed tradesman to work on electrical, gas, hvac, etc if the structure is not yours. Plus if he does it himself he will have learned something along he way as well as gained the satisfaction of doing it himself. |
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![]() "AZ Nomad" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote: It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician, assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour. Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already ****ed away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task on usenet. I'm retired, I've got all the time in the world. Just cuts into my golf game. |
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:58:47 -0500, Joe J wrote:
"AZ Nomad" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0500, Joe J wrote: It's a single pole switch. Also, there are no power runs in the attic or basement, that's part of my problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have power in the box with the switch already. You can add the fan/light to that circuit. That was a reply to the person who said I should just tap into an existing attic feed. who replied to a person who was telling you to hire an electrician, assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour. Assuming your time is worth more than a dollar an hour you're already ****ed away the price of an electrician with the time spent discussing the task on usenet. I'm retired, I've got all the time in the world. Just cuts into my golf game. Just smash out the drywall around the lightswitch. Put the wiring into that box. Research next on drywall repair. :-) |
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