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If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted
water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. |
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On Apr 13, 8:31*am, stryped wrote:
If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. You could stagger the 1/8" so that the drywall ends are under the middle of the 1/8" boards. |
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On Apr 13, 8:08*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Apr 13, 8:31*am, stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. You could stagger the 1/8" so that the drywall ends are under the middle of the 1/8" boards. Would OSb instead be acceptable? This is a detached garage/shop. |
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On Apr 13, 9:15*am, stryped wrote:
On Apr 13, 8:08*am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Apr 13, 8:31*am, stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. You could stagger the 1/8" so that the drywall ends are under the middle of the 1/8" boards. Would OSb instead be acceptable? This is a detached garage/shop. There has been a lot of debate about that in another thread. OSB burns pretty readily. OSB is also difficult to finish as it's surface can flake off. I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. |
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On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:15*am, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 8:08*am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Apr 13, 8:31*am, stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. You could stagger the 1/8" so that the drywall ends are under the middle of the 1/8" boards. Would OSb instead be acceptable? This is a detached garage/shop. There has been a lot of debate about that in another thread. *OSB burns pretty readily. *OSB is also difficult to finish as it's surface can flake off. I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. My idea would be to glue these white painted 1/8 panels to the osb. WOuld this work? |
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On Apr 13, 10:14*am, stryped wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Apr 13, 9:15*am, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 8:08*am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Apr 13, 8:31*am, stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. You could stagger the 1/8" so that the drywall ends are under the middle of the 1/8" boards. Would OSb instead be acceptable? This is a detached garage/shop. There has been a lot of debate about that in another thread. *OSB burns pretty readily. *OSB is also difficult to finish as it's surface can flake off. I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. My idea would be to glue these white painted 1/8 panels to the osb. WOuld this work?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't see why it wouldn't work. It's not what I would do. Install the first layer of covering starting at one end. You will need to cut the last sheet vertically to make it fit. Then start at that end and add your 1/8" going back in the other direction. This will offset your seams. Frankly I'd also go with the drywall as I see no advantage to the osb since you are covering it with something harder. You could even save some by using the 3/8" drywall. |
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On 4/13/2010 7:31 AM, stryped wrote:
If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. Just put the drywall up in a horizontal fashion and then the 1/8" boards vertical and don't nail or glue right on the horizontal drywall tapered joint. Don |
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On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe |
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On Apr 13, 1:52*pm, Joe wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall |
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On Apr 13, 4:42*pm, stryped wrote:
On Apr 13, 1:52*pm, Joe wrote: On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall What does that mean? Do you not trust your taping skills? Not sure of your construction, but if you run the boards vertically, and use long enough boards, you'll only have to tape the tapered edges abutting - piece of cake. R |
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"stryped" wrote in message ... On Apr 13, 8:08 am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Apr 13, 8:31 am, stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. You could stagger the 1/8" so that the drywall ends are under the middle of the 1/8" boards. Would OSb instead be acceptable? This is a detached garage/shop. Acceptable to whom? Your wife? Probably not. |
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"jamesgangnc" wrote There has been a lot of debate about that in another thread. OSB burns pretty readily. OSB is also difficult to finish as it's surface can flake off. I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Depends on local code. My detached garage had nothing inside, just the open framing. It is not a living space so it did not matter. Codes may vary from town to town though. I did, however, insulate it and drywall it because I use it as a shop and heat it in the winter sometimes. |
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On Apr 13, 4:58*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 13, 4:42*pm, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 1:52*pm, Joe wrote: On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant.. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall What does that mean? *Do you not trust your taping skills? *Not sure of your construction, but if you run the boards vertically, and use long enough boards, you'll only have to tape the tapered edges abutting - piece of cake. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Afraid it will look bad and take forever. It is 30x30 with 10 feet ceilings. I would have a few butt joints but not many. |
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On Apr 13, 4:58*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 13, 4:42*pm, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 1:52*pm, Joe wrote: On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant.. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall What does that mean? *Do you not trust your taping skills? *Not sure of your construction, but if you run the boards vertically, and use long enough boards, you'll only have to tape the tapered edges abutting - piece of cake. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not livign space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white thoguh for light. |
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On Apr 13, 2:52*pm, Joe wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:10*am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe I plan on using 5/8" in the ceiling because there is living space above. But I disagree about the fragility of drywall for the walls. I use my garage a lot for projects. And you bang a 10' long board into drywall accidentally and you have a big gouge. You bump it rolling a jetski around and you have a gouge. It is fragile. Hit it with anything heavy even lightly and it gets damaged. It's easy to say don't do that but it happens. And I have a 30x28 garage so putting up expensive hanger boards all over is not an option. |
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stryped wrote:
If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. This is a detached garage, right? If so, why bother with drywall? It's main purpose is fire retardation and that's usually not much of an issue in a detached garage. Drywall has only a minuscule insulation property (R=0.45) which can be almost matched with 1/4" plywood (R=0.31). |
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stryped wrote:
On Apr 13, 4:58 pm, RicodJour wrote: On Apr 13, 4:42 pm, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 1:52 pm, Joe wrote: On Apr 13, 9:10 am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall What does that mean? Do you not trust your taping skills? Not sure of your construction, but if you run the boards vertically, and use long enough boards, you'll only have to tape the tapered edges abutting - piece of cake. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not livign space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white thoguh for light. Gloss, or semi gloss will accentuate every tiny imperfection. Use flat. |
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On Apr 14, 9:18*am, Tony wrote:
stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 4:58 pm, RicodJour wrote: On Apr 13, 4:42 pm, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 1:52 pm, Joe wrote: On Apr 13, 9:10 am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. *But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant.. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas.. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall What does that mean? *Do you not trust your taping skills? *Not sure of your construction, but if you run the boards vertically, and use long enough boards, you'll only have to tape the tapered edges abutting - piece of cake. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not *livign space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white thoguh for light. Gloss, or semi gloss will accentuate every tiny imperfection. *Use flat..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - With 10ft ceilings, why not sheetrock above and some thing more gouge- resistant around the bottom 4 - 6 feet? |
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dadiOH wrote:
Tony wrote: stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 4:58 pm, RicodJour wrote: On Apr 13, 4:42 pm, stryped wrote: On Apr 13, 1:52 pm, Joe wrote: On Apr 13, 9:10 am, jamesgangnc wrote: snip I am building a garage and would also like something less fragile than drywall as a wall covering. But so far I have not found any drywall alternatives that are price competitive and somewhat fire resistant. If you figure something out I'd like to hear about it. Do your garage in 5/8" drywall and you meet fire codes in some areas. That thickness is not really 'fragile' unless you run your Escalade into it full tilt. Finish off with those trick hanger panels for tools and such and it will look rather nice. Plan on an epoxy floor finish and you'll be one happy camper. Joe Thing is I am not crazy about mudding the drywall What does that mean? Do you not trust your taping skills? Not sure of your construction, but if you run the boards vertically, and use long enough boards, you'll only have to tape the tapered edges abutting - piece of cake. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not livign space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white thoguh for light. Gloss, or semi gloss will accentuate every tiny imperfection. Use flat. It's a garage, who cares? Flat is a bitch to clean, semi or gloss isn't. Agreed, but I thought the OP was concerned about how his tape and spackle job looks. I'm doing my garage also... when in the mood. I just looked at it today and realized my ceiling should look good since the fluorescent fixtures are hanging down about 1 foot. My last garage had the lights up on the ceiling which also makes imperfections stand out. |
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On Apr 14, 8:37*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. This is a detached garage, right? If so, why bother with drywall? It's main purpose is fire retardation and that's usually not much of an issue in a detached garage. Drywall has only a minuscule insulation property (R=0.45) which can be almost matched with 1/4" plywood (R=0.31). I guess I wanted it to look halfway decent. Something I could be pround of. |
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On Apr 14, 8:12*am, stryped wrote:
In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not *living space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white though for light. Yep, one coat is fine. Like I said earlier, if you run the 10' boards vertically, you won't have any but joints and the tapered joints are the easiest part. They're almost hard to mess up. Look at this another way - a garage is the perfect place to practice your taping skills, so when the opportunity arises inside the house, you'll be ready. There are pluses and minuses to any wall covering, but drywall is the easiest to repair if it does get dinged. If you expect the walls to take abuse, 4' high paneling over the drywall would be the ticket. R |
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On Apr 14, 2:08*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 14, 8:12*am, stryped wrote: In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not *living space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white though for light. Yep, one coat is fine. *Like I said earlier, if you run the 10' boards vertically, you won't have any but joints and the tapered joints are the easiest part. *They're almost hard to mess up. Look at this another way - a garage is the perfect place to practice your taping skills, so when the opportunity arises inside the house, you'll be ready. There are pluses and minuses to any wall covering, but drywall is the easiest to repair if it does get dinged. *If you expect the walls to take abuse, 4' high paneling over the drywall would be the ticket. R Wont there be butt joints at the corners? |
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On Apr 14, 5:00*pm, stryped wrote:
On Apr 14, 2:08*pm, RicodJour wrote: On Apr 14, 8:12*am, stryped wrote: In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not *living space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white though for light. Yep, one coat is fine. *Like I said earlier, if you run the 10' boards vertically, you won't have any but joints and the tapered joints are the easiest part. *They're almost hard to mess up. Look at this another way - a garage is the perfect place to practice your taping skills, so when the opportunity arises inside the house, you'll be ready. There are pluses and minuses to any wall covering, but drywall is the easiest to repair if it does get dinged. *If you expect the walls to take abuse, 4' high paneling over the drywall would be the ticket. Wont there be butt joints at the corners? Nope. There'll be corners at the corners, not butt joints. You'll have taped inside corners, and corner-beaded outside corners (if there are any in your garage). Butt joints are non-tapered edges meeting on a flat wall. The corners are just as easy to do as the tapered edges if you have an inside corner taping tool. They're cheap, too, and well worth the money. R |
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stryped wrote:
On Apr 14, 8:37 am, "HeyBub" wrote: stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. This is a detached garage, right? If so, why bother with drywall? It's main purpose is fire retardation and that's usually not much of an issue in a detached garage. Drywall has only a minuscule insulation property (R=0.45) which can be almost matched with 1/4" plywood (R=0.31). I guess I wanted it to look halfway decent. Something I could be pround of. Oh. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
... stryped wrote: On Apr 14, 8:37 am, "HeyBub" wrote: stryped wrote: If I were to put drywall in my garage, then cover with the pre painted water resistant 1/8 inch boards at Lowes, would the tapered ends of the drywall be visable? I am debating going with OSB under those or drywall. This is a detached garage, right? If so, why bother with drywall? It's main purpose is fire retardation and that's usually not much of an issue in a detached garage. Drywall has only a minuscule insulation property (R=0.45) which can be almost matched with 1/4" plywood (R=0.31). I guess I wanted it to look halfway decent. Something I could be pround of. Oh. If drywall scares you atleast use plywood...OSB just plain sucks left exposed...Atleast plywood will take paint...As always check your local codes...You may want to sell someday...HTH... |
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RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 14, 5:00 pm, stryped wrote: On Apr 14, 2:08 pm, RicodJour wrote: On Apr 14, 8:12 am, stryped wrote: In a garage can I put just enough compound to cover the mesh tape and it look ok? (It is a garage, not living space). I would paint the walls maybe semi gloss white though for light. Yep, one coat is fine. Like I said earlier, if you run the 10' boards vertically, you won't have any but joints and the tapered joints are the easiest part. They're almost hard to mess up. Look at this another way - a garage is the perfect place to practice your taping skills, so when the opportunity arises inside the house, you'll be ready. There are pluses and minuses to any wall covering, but drywall is the easiest to repair if it does get dinged. If you expect the walls to take abuse, 4' high paneling over the drywall would be the ticket. Wont there be butt joints at the corners? Nope. There'll be corners at the corners, not butt joints. You'll have taped inside corners, and corner-beaded outside corners (if there are any in your garage). Butt joints are non-tapered edges meeting on a flat wall. The corners are just as easy to do as the tapered edges if you have an inside corner taping tool. They're cheap, too, and well worth the money. I just bought a stainless corner taper thing for the same thing, finishing off a garage. This is my second attempt at tape and spackle and with what I learned since the first job, this one is going much better. And yes I got 10' rock for the 9' 4" walls and am hanging it vertically. I'm finishing the first phase of the job now and I think I'm doing a lot better than the first time. (the garage is half full of stuff already so I'm doing about 1/3rd at a time. When this is finished I move stuff to the newly finished wall and start on the middle.) I bought a drywall lift new for $200. Best $200 I've ever spent! The ceiling is actually easier than the walls! When I'm finished, I'll sell it for $250. ;-) |
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