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I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

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I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


"caliche removal" is the most costly? Say it ain't so.

County here required a deep enough field, that you could bury dozens
of bodies under the turf. I think John paid sum thousands of dollars.

All inspected of course

I know in rural Las Vegas they WILL be there to INSPECT!
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On 3/2/2010 1:14 AM, Steve B wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


Been over 30 years since I had my 2nd field installed for around $1,000.
Size of field generally depends on perk test along with size of house.
Vacant lots around here will have bedroom restrictions if perk is minimal.

I have a switcher box where I alternate between fields as they can
saturate and rain appears to regenerate when alternate field is in use.
In fact, today, in this area you need alternate field installed with new
house with septic.
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Steve B wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over
caliche, and not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of
gravel, no more than 12" around the pipes. When checked with a
laser, it was not level by a long shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I
anticipate four days labor based on my construction experience. The
contractor will supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a
leach field for a three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a
guess would be fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


Central Florida, "soil" is sand

1000 gallon tank + leach field...1 line IIRC, about 75' long

Backhoe and operator + two men, half day

$1500, 1995

Adjust for inflation to under $2500 now

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On Mar 2, 12:14*am, "Steve B" wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. *The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. *It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. *When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. *The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. *How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. *Just a guess would be
fine. *Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


What kind of soil is caliche?


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On Mar 2, 12:14*am, "Steve B" wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. *The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. *It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. *When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. *The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. *How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. *Just a guess would be
fine. *Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


Whee are you located? Here in the Chicago suburbs would be a lot
different from the middle of a Kansas farmfield.
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On 3/2/2010 12:14 AM, Steve B wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


Don't know about replacement but from scratch with 1,000 gallon tank I
would figure about $1,900 to $2,400 but that is in the "boonies" of SE Iowa.

Don





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I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche,
and not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more
than 12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by
a long shot.


Mom had to have one redone for a 3 BR, 2 bath house back in 1976. I don't
know anything about 'caliche' or if it was involved.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.


I remember she wasn't happy with the price but multiple estimates all came
in pretty close. It was about 3,500$ but there was some sort of something
special that was 'wrong' which raised the price quite a bit. 'Calaiche'
possibly? Thinking. Oh yeah, I forget the name of it but that big cement
'box' that you have to have dumped every now and again (like every 20 years
I think) had developed a crack and had to be repaired as well. That was
probably a good bit of why the total was as high as it was. A huge crack
along the side all the way to the bottom that was letting clay mud in when
the ground was saturated which also filled the leach field.

I'm sorry but I dont recall if they had to replace that 'box' or were able
to just replace or fix that wall. My clearest memory was of mud and 'stuff'
suddenly coming up through the bathtub and shower drains in a heavy rain
situation and not being able to flush any toilets plus sinks wouldnt drain.
Pretty sure we didnt know anything was wrong before that suddenly happened.

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Grin, best I can do for you Steve. I've been on city sewer since those
days.

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I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche,
and not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more
than 12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by
a long shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


It REALLY depends on your local codes...Here in Maine it is a NIGHTMARE ...I
just wanted to replace my old 500 gallon round rusted out metel tank with a
1000 gallon cement tank and just hook it to the old leach field..But no way
was that gonna happen...Just by pulling the permit I lost the grandfathered
system and EVERYTHING had to be brought up to code..I had to relocate the
leach field as it was to close to a small ditch that only flows in the early
spring when the snow melts...The environazis have taken over
here..LOL....400 bucks for soil test and septic design and 7,000 dollars for
the new tank with a septic pumpand controlls inside and some new fangled
plastic baffles that are now required for the leach field that is now uphill
and lots of crushed rock and loam to cover it...HTH.......


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I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over
caliche, and not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of
gravel, no more than 12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser,
it was not level by a long shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I
anticipate four days labor based on my construction experience. The
contractor will supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a
leach field for a three bedroom three bath house cost in your area.
Just a guess would be fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience
or knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


It REALLY depends on your local codes...Here in Maine it is a
NIGHTMARE ...I just wanted to replace my old 500 gallon round rusted
out metel tank with a 1000 gallon cement tank and just hook it to the
old leach field..But no way was that gonna happen...Just by pulling
the permit I lost the grandfathered system and EVERYTHING had to be
brought up to code..I had to relocate the leach field as it was to
close to a small ditch that only flows in the early spring when the
snow melts...The environazis have taken over here..LOL....400 bucks
for soil test and septic design and 7,000 dollars for the new tank
with a septic pumpand controlls inside and some new fangled plastic
baffles that are now required for the leach field that is now uphill
and lots of crushed rock and loam to cover it...HTH.......



Sounds like VT. Occasions of projects stopped becase some small amount of
special fern, moss or bug was found. Have no idea why anyone working
would flag it to start with. Just stomp the **** and kick some dirt over
it.
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What kind of soil is caliche?

reply: I think it is Spanish for concrete.


Wiki and other references seem to agree, it is a concrete made of
calcium carbonate with any variety of aggregates such as sand, pebbles,
etc. I would expect an excavator or bobcat with a hydraulic breaker and
suitable point could deal with it reasonably well.


I can tell you have never worked with caliche.

Steve


I would describe caliche (' round here) as "hard as a preacher's
dick". A bobcat can't scratch the surface.

It was days I could hear a " hydraulic breaker" pounding, just blocks
away. They were making way for a mini-mini mall.

Moving part of a mountain another place - dynamite!! Home owners sued
(Hendertuckystain, NV).

Install a new pool and the price may double, just from having caliche.


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Central Florida, "soil" is sand


Until you hit sandstone cap-rock. Easy to break, but not like caliche.

You find more cap rock in South Florida, think coral rock.
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(Hendertuckystain, NV).


In the Sixties, it was referred to as "Hooterville" by the locals. Grew up
in Pittman, originally called Jericho heights in the thirties and forties.
The area of the Skyline and Joker's Wild casinos. Henderson was the old
Henderson, and did not include what is now Green Valley.

I used to ride dirt bikes where Green Valley is today. The old Clinger
ranch. Paradise Valley Golf course when there were about seven houses
scattered around the fringe, Rovaun owning one of them. Light years ago and
a planet away.

Steve


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"Oren" wrote

(Hendertuckystain, NV).


In the Sixties, it was referred to as "Hooterville" by the locals. Grew up
in Pittman, originally called Jericho heights in the thirties and forties.
The area of the Skyline and Joker's Wild casinos. Henderson was the old
Henderson, and did not include what is now Green Valley.


Green Valley has crept on me. 215/Eastern/Windmill.


I used to ride dirt bikes where Green Valley is today. The old Clinger
ranch. Paradise Valley Golf course when there were about seven houses
scattered around the fringe, Rovaun owning one of them. Light years ago and
a planet away.

Steve


Heck I have a coupon for a T-Bone dinner in GV. (real steak house)

Fact remains "caliche" is a tough job ;-/

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On Mar 2, 1:14*am, "Steve B" wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. *The old one was put over caliche, and
not dug very deep. *It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more than
12" around the pipes. *When checked with a laser, it was not level by a long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. *The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. *How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. *Just a guess would be
fine. *Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


NC has clay about like caliche but you also find big rocks in it too.
About 5 years ago when my friend had his new home built it cost about
$8000. They tried going around the rocks at first but only ran into a
new rock every time so that started digging them up. A few of them
took a half a day to get out of the ground. While he wasn't happy with
the cost he admitted it should have cost more. he figured both he and
the contractor lost money on this one.

Jimmie
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Paradise Valley Golf course when there were about seven houses
scattered around the fringe, Rovaun owning one of them. Light years ago
and a planet away.

Steve


Sorry, Google Rouvaun, extra "u" there. Originally from Utah. I thought he
was French. Interesting read of Las Vegas history.

Steve




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On Mar 2, 1:14 am, "Steve B" wrote:
I need to get a leach field replaced. The old one was put over caliche,
and
not dug very deep. It was made with minimal amounts of gravel, no more
than
12" around the pipes. When checked with a laser, it was not level by a
long
shot.

The new field will require caliche removal but not a lot, and I anticipate
four days labor based on my construction experience. The contractor will
supply pipes, covering, and gravel. How much would a leach field for a
three bedroom three bath house cost in your area. Just a guess would be
fine. Actual prices if you have had it done.

Tire kickers, ankle biters, and those who have no direct experience or
knowledge are kindly asked to sit this one out.

Steve


NC has clay about like caliche but you also find big rocks in it too.
About 5 years ago when my friend had his new home built it cost about
$8000. They tried going around the rocks at first but only ran into a
new rock every time so that started digging them up. A few of them
took a half a day to get out of the ground. While he wasn't happy with
the cost he admitted it should have cost more. he figured both he and
the contractor lost money on this one.

Jimmie

Very close to my situation. Ended up taking two weeks of a few hours here
and there, a lot of it consulting with other contractors and the blaster.
Ended up using 97 tons of gravel. New pipes with "inspection ports" so if
it does fill up like a bathtub, I can pump it. In the meantime, I can
monitor fluid levels and keep ahead of it and know before it reaches danger
levels. I personally don't think it will be a problem. We also put a drain
on one end that is slightly above grade so that if it ever gets full, it
will run down into another secondary leach field. It's nice to live in the
middle of nowhere and can do things using logic and common sense and not
have to fool with the educated over capacity crowd.

Steve


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