Jules wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:32:44 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:

Reno wrote:

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He
borrowed a live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he
****ed all over it while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the
**** for an hour and then let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle
and sprinkled a bit of **** around the fence line. Cat never came
back. Besides effective this method was very satisfying.

LOL, fight fire with fire, eh?

No, that would be going and ****ing on your neighbor's lawn :-)

Read about a chap who had a persistent-barking (large) dog that lived next
door. The geometry was such that he could see into the dog owner's house
through an open patio door.

He filled a balloon with urine and chunked it through th neighbor's open
door. The balloon, of course, broke, the dog got blamed, and peace was
restored when the dog was exiled to a relative in the country.

Jules wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:32:44 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:

Reno wrote:

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He
borrowed a live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he
****ed all over it while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the
**** for an hour and then let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle
and sprinkled a bit of **** around the fence line. Cat never came
back. Besides effective this method was very satisfying.

LOL, fight fire with fire, eh?

No, that would be going and ****ing on your neighbor's lawn :-)

Read about a chap who had a persistent-barking (large) dog that lived next
door. The geometry was such that he could see into the dog owner's house
through an open patio door.

He filled a balloon with urine and chunked it through th neighbor's open
door. The balloon, of course, broke, the dog got blamed, and peace was
restored when the dog was exiled to a relative in the country.

On Oct 29, 10:55*am, Tony Hwang wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little pieces
of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome here..

Any other suggestions?

Jon

Hi,
No motion sensing sprinkler? If you kill the cat, you get into trouble.

I did the motion sensing sprinkler, forgot to turn it off while I was
on vacation. My neighbor who had agreed to take care of my dog found
it the hard way.

Jimmie

On Oct 29, 10:55*am, Tony Hwang wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little pieces
of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome here..

Any other suggestions?

Jon

Hi,
No motion sensing sprinkler? If you kill the cat, you get into trouble.

I did the motion sensing sprinkler, forgot to turn it off while I was
on vacation. My neighbor who had agreed to take care of my dog found
it the hard way.

Jimmie

Denise in NH wrote:
Go to any pet store and buy a bottle of cat repellant.

Denise


They put dogs in a bottle?

TDD

Denise in NH wrote:
Go to any pet store and buy a bottle of cat repellant.

Denise


They put dogs in a bottle?

TDD

aemeijers wrote:

Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has owned
unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and to be honest
I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice away), but I draw the
line at being okay with their various excretions.

Jon

aemeijers wrote:

Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has owned
unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and to be honest
I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice away), but I draw the
line at being okay with their various excretions.

Jon

wrote:

At Home Depot and garden centers, you can buy cat repellant.

I admit to a high degree of skepticism as to the effectiveness of such
products.

Jon

wrote:

At Home Depot and garden centers, you can buy cat repellant.

I admit to a high degree of skepticism as to the effectiveness of such
products.

Jon

Jules wrote:


No, that would be going and ****ing on your neighbor's lawn :-)

Hmmm, now that's a thought..... ;-

Jon

Jules wrote:


No, that would be going and ****ing on your neighbor's lawn :-)

Hmmm, now that's a thought..... ;-

Jon

"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I have a Fi-Shock unit. They are reasonably priced if you don't buy
the whole unnecessary package with all the stuff. IIRC, I got mine at
a pet shop, and it was about $30 for the basic shocker unit, which is
all you want. Zap them once or twice, and they won't come back. It's
funny as hell, too. I never knew cats could jump that high! Just put a
stainless steel bowl of food out on an insulated base, and
leave it. As you say, make sure you have a good ground. Put it in a
place where your pets or kids can't get to it. But then, if the kids
do get to it, they only have to touch it once to have their curiosity
satisfied. Plus, if it is on your property, and your neighbor cannot
see it, there's less chance for there to be problems with them when
the cat gets lit up. I have gotten rid of several wandering dogs
that got in the trash, roaming cats, and a couple of wild critters. They
learn fast. Do not try to electrify too big an area, or a long
run of fence, as then it will be more upkeep, easier to short out,
and those nosy neighbors may gripe.

Aye, thanks Steve, that's the one I'm thinking of getting. I only wish I
were able to be there to see the damn thing hit it; that would bring me
much satisfaction.

Jon

You may. Put it up on the garage roof in a place where the cat will have a
secondary surprise. Just don't call the law at 2 AM when you hear something
crashing. The more unpleasant the experience the less likely they are to
return. I've rigged mono line to empty bundles of aluminum cans, and that
can be a deterrent, too. Unless you forget and get caught on your own
petard.

Steve

"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I have a Fi-Shock unit. They are reasonably priced if you don't buy
the whole unnecessary package with all the stuff. IIRC, I got mine at
a pet shop, and it was about $30 for the basic shocker unit, which is
all you want. Zap them once or twice, and they won't come back. It's
funny as hell, too. I never knew cats could jump that high! Just put a
stainless steel bowl of food out on an insulated base, and
leave it. As you say, make sure you have a good ground. Put it in a
place where your pets or kids can't get to it. But then, if the kids
do get to it, they only have to touch it once to have their curiosity
satisfied. Plus, if it is on your property, and your neighbor cannot
see it, there's less chance for there to be problems with them when
the cat gets lit up. I have gotten rid of several wandering dogs
that got in the trash, roaming cats, and a couple of wild critters. They
learn fast. Do not try to electrify too big an area, or a long
run of fence, as then it will be more upkeep, easier to short out,
and those nosy neighbors may gripe.

Aye, thanks Steve, that's the one I'm thinking of getting. I only wish I
were able to be there to see the damn thing hit it; that would bring me
much satisfaction.

Jon

You may. Put it up on the garage roof in a place where the cat will have a
secondary surprise. Just don't call the law at 2 AM when you hear something
crashing. The more unpleasant the experience the less likely they are to
return. I've rigged mono line to empty bundles of aluminum cans, and that
can be a deterrent, too. Unless you forget and get caught on your own
petard.

Steve

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
On Oct 29, 1:55 pm, Reno wrote:

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed a
live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over it
while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour and then
let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit of **** around
the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective this method was
very
satisfying.

I'll recommend that to my husband. He tried dumping soapy water on
it when it was in the trap, but it couldn't take the hint and I saw it
back
again this week.

It could take him a while to get enough to sprinkle the fence line.
I'll
brew some tea.

Cindy Hamilton

Do it all. Keep it in the trap. Pee on it. Put a piece of wire on the
Fi-Shock and jab the cat a few times while in the trap. I bet he won't come
back.

Steve

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
On Oct 29, 1:55 pm, Reno wrote:

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed a
live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over it
while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour and then
let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit of **** around
the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective this method was
very
satisfying.

I'll recommend that to my husband. He tried dumping soapy water on
it when it was in the trap, but it couldn't take the hint and I saw it
back
again this week.

It could take him a while to get enough to sprinkle the fence line.
I'll
brew some tea.

Cindy Hamilton

Do it all. Keep it in the trap. Pee on it. Put a piece of wire on the
Fi-Shock and jab the cat a few times while in the trap. I bet he won't come
back.

Steve

HeyBub wrote:
Jules wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:32:44 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:

Reno wrote:
My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He
borrowed a live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he
****ed all over it while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the
**** for an hour and then let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle
and sprinkled a bit of **** around the fence line. Cat never came
back. Besides effective this method was very satisfying.
LOL, fight fire with fire, eh?
No, that would be going and ****ing on your neighbor's lawn :-)

Read about a chap who had a persistent-barking (large) dog that lived next
door. The geometry was such that he could see into the dog owner's house
through an open patio door.

He filled a balloon with urine and chunked it through th neighbor's open
door. The balloon, of course, broke, the dog got blamed, and peace was
restored when the dog was exiled to a relative in the country.


LOL

HeyBub wrote:
Jules wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:32:44 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:

Reno wrote:
My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He
borrowed a live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he
****ed all over it while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the
**** for an hour and then let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle
and sprinkled a bit of **** around the fence line. Cat never came
back. Besides effective this method was very satisfying.
LOL, fight fire with fire, eh?
No, that would be going and ****ing on your neighbor's lawn :-)

Read about a chap who had a persistent-barking (large) dog that lived next
door. The geometry was such that he could see into the dog owner's house
through an open patio door.

He filled a balloon with urine and chunked it through th neighbor's open
door. The balloon, of course, broke, the dog got blamed, and peace was
restored when the dog was exiled to a relative in the country.


LOL

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:08:10 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Denise in NH wrote:
Go to any pet store and buy a bottle of cat repellant.

Denise


They put dogs in a bottle?

TDD

Sure. Wile-E-Coyote

http://www.jroller.com/MasterMark/re...e-Posters2.jpg


Even have Coyote urine.

Dab it on the cat an the program is over for the night.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:08:10 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Denise in NH wrote:
Go to any pet store and buy a bottle of cat repellant.

Denise


They put dogs in a bottle?

TDD

Sure. Wile-E-Coyote

http://www.jroller.com/MasterMark/re...e-Posters2.jpg


Even have Coyote urine.

Dab it on the cat an the program is over for the night.

Jon Danniken wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has owned
unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and to be honest
I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice away), but I draw the
line at being okay with their various excretions.

Jon


Put a little food out there laced with generic (cheap) diarrhea
medicine? Like shoving a plug in their butt.

Lou

Jon Danniken wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has owned
unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and to be honest
I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice away), but I draw the
line at being okay with their various excretions.

Jon


Put a little food out there laced with generic (cheap) diarrhea
medicine? Like shoving a plug in their butt.

Lou

wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little
pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

--
aem sends...

Just read an article today about someone in Australia offering recipes
for cooking cat - feral cats a huge problem in Aus. Supposedly tough,
taste somewhat like rabbit and chicken. Ick!

Up in NJ we often wondered if the Chinese restaurants used cats in some
dishes.


Lou

wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little
pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

--
aem sends...

Just read an article today about someone in Australia offering recipes
for cooking cat - feral cats a huge problem in Aus. Supposedly tough,
taste somewhat like rabbit and chicken. Ick!

Up in NJ we often wondered if the Chinese restaurants used cats in some
dishes.


Lou

Why not? They put Dr. Pepper in bottles.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in
message ...
Denise in NH wrote:
Go to any pet store and buy a bottle of cat repellant.

Denise


They put dogs in a bottle?

TDD

No see cat! No ask!

http://firstmilkman.com/wp-content/u...catplease.jpeg

And here is the proof, on the web.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"LouB" wrote in message
...

Up in NJ we often wondered if the Chinese restaurants used
cats in some
dishes.


Lou

"Jon Danniken" wrote in
:

aemeijers wrote:

Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has
owned unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and
to be honest I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice
away), but I draw the line at being okay with their various
excretions.

Jon




have you tried moth balls as a repellent?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

"SteveB" wrote in
:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I have a Fi-Shock unit. They are reasonably priced if you don't buy
the whole unnecessary package with all the stuff. IIRC, I got mine
at a pet shop, and it was about $30 for the basic shocker unit,
which is all you want. Zap them once or twice, and they won't come
back. It's funny as hell, too. I never knew cats could jump that
high! Just put a stainless steel bowl of food out on an insulated
base, and leave it. As you say, make sure you have a good ground.
Put it in a place where your pets or kids can't get to it. But
then, if the kids do get to it, they only have to touch it once to
have their curiosity satisfied. Plus, if it is on your property,
and your neighbor cannot see it, there's less chance for there to be
problems with them when the cat gets lit up. I have gotten rid of
several wandering dogs that got in the trash, roaming cats, and a
couple of wild critters. They learn fast. Do not try to electrify
too big an area, or a long run of fence, as then it will be more
upkeep, easier to short out, and those nosy neighbors may gripe.

Aye, thanks Steve, that's the one I'm thinking of getting. I only
wish I were able to be there to see the damn thing hit it; that would
bring me much satisfaction.

Jon

You may. Put it up on the garage roof in a place where the cat will
have a secondary surprise. Just don't call the law at 2 AM when you
hear something crashing. The more unpleasant the experience the less
likely they are to return. I've rigged mono line to empty bundles of
aluminum cans, and that can be a deterrent, too. Unless you forget
and get caught on your own petard.

Steve




the fishing line/can trick is good for 2-legged prowlers,too.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Oh, I can't get near those.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
4...

have you tried moth balls as a repellent?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Larry W wrote:

Why don't you just move?

I am at a loss as how to respond to your question without appearing
to be engaging in an ad hominum attack.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:07:56 -0400, LouB wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.

One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has owned
unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and to be honest
I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice away), but I draw the
line at being okay with their various excretions.

Jon


Put a little food out there laced with generic (cheap) diarrhea
medicine? Like shoving a plug in their butt.

You're a real piece of human garbage.

Purchase a large amount of chili pepper and sprinkle it over your lawn.
They don't like the smell of it.


--
Dymphna
Message origin: www.TRAVEL.com

Dick, that's a classy answer. Well done!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Dick Adams" wrote in message
...
Larry W wrote:

Why don't you just move?

I am at a loss as how to respond to your question without
appearing
to be engaging in an ad hominum attack.

Jim Yanik wrote:
"Jon Danniken" wrote in
:

aemeijers wrote:
Feral, or neighbor cats? Killing feral cats is pointless- it just
opens up a slot for one from down the road to move in. The supply is
close to infininite, and self replenishing.
One of the neighbors. There's one guy a couple houses away who has
owned unfixed males in the past, "rescue" cats. He's a nice guy, and
to be honest I don't mind cats on the property (they keep the mice
away), but I draw the line at being okay with their various
excretions.

Jon




have you tried moth balls as a repellent?


How do they hold the moth down to cut them off?

TDD

In article , Reno
wrote:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little
pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome
here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed a
live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over it
while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour and then
let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit of **** around
the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective this method was very
satisfying.

Same principle. Cheap. Humane. Effective. And sanitary:

http://www.critterbgone.com/shake_cats.asp

People who make a point of harming animals for doing what they do
naturally can go **** themselves.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

In article , Reno
wrote:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little
pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome
here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed a
live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over it
while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour and then
let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit of **** around
the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective this method was very
satisfying.

Same principle. Cheap. Humane. Effective. And sanitary:

http://www.critterbgone.com/shake_cats.asp

People who make a point of harming animals for doing what they do
naturally can go **** themselves.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

"Frank Warner" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Reno
wrote:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little
pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome
here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed a
live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over it
while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour and
then
let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit of ****
around
the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective this method was
very
satisfying.

Same principle. Cheap. Humane. Effective. And sanitary:

http://www.critterbgone.com/shake_cats.asp

People who make a point of harming animals for doing what they do
naturally can go **** themselves.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/


Eat meat?

"Frank Warner" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Reno
wrote:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the little
pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs and
zapping them until they get the message they are no longer welcome
here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed a
live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over it
while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour and
then
let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit of ****
around
the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective this method was
very
satisfying.

Same principle. Cheap. Humane. Effective. And sanitary:

http://www.critterbgone.com/shake_cats.asp

People who make a point of harming animals for doing what they do
naturally can go **** themselves.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/


Eat meat?

Frank Warner wrote in
:

In article , Reno
wrote:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the
little pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my
carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs
and zapping them until they get the message they are no longer
welcome here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed
a live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over
it while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour
and then let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit
of **** around the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective
this method was very satisfying.

Same principle. Cheap. Humane. Effective. And sanitary:

http://www.critterbgone.com/shake_cats.asp

People who make a point of harming animals for doing what they do
naturally can go **** themselves.

-Frank


I wish there was a similar product for repelling dogs.
Many of my neighbors let their dog crap around the building(without picking
it up as required) instead of walking 20 extra feet to the perimeter of the
property,where people don't walk.
At least cats bury their poop.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Frank Warner wrote in
:

In article , Reno
wrote:


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions besides trapping and drowning or shooting the
little pieces of sh*t that poop in my garden and pee in my
carport?

I'm considering getting one of the "havahart" electric fence jobs
and zapping them until they get the message they are no longer
welcome here.

Any other suggestions?

Jon

My friend used to have a problem with the neighbor's cat. He borrowed
a live trap from the city and caught the cat. Then he ****ed all over
it while it was in the trap. Left it to soak in the **** for an hour
and then let it go. Then he ****ed into a bottle and sprinkled a bit
of **** around the fence line. Cat never came back. Besides effective
this method was very satisfying.

Same principle. Cheap. Humane. Effective. And sanitary:

http://www.critterbgone.com/shake_cats.asp

People who make a point of harming animals for doing what they do
naturally can go **** themselves.

-Frank


I wish there was a similar product for repelling dogs.
Many of my neighbors let their dog crap around the building(without picking
it up as required) instead of walking 20 extra feet to the perimeter of the
property,where people don't walk.
At least cats bury their poop.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com