In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

"hibb" wrote in message
...
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

I don't know the first thing about it, but on most pictures of recording
studios I have seen, there appears to be a gray foam rubber on the walls
that looks like egg crate.

Start Googling, and I bet you have a good idea in less than ten minutes.
Then get your input from the other newsgroups and pick yer pony.

Steve

On Sep 30, 10:30*am, hibb wrote:
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

There are many good web sites, and you can search the newsgroup's
archives for many threads on the topic.

In a nutshell, sound travels by different mechanisms and the best
method(s) for your particular situation will depend on the noise
source, the current construction and location, and where you are
trying to reduce the sound level.

R

On Sep 30, 9:30*am, hibb wrote:
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Build a isolated dual wall system using 2x4 studs on 2x6 top and
bottom plates, frame the "outside wall" oc 16 inches like normal,
frame the "inside wall" oc 16 inches but offset the first stud by 8
inches. Drywall out and in with 5/8 drywall, some add another layer
of drywall in the middle cavity fastened to the backside of the
"outside" wall. This is the only reasonable way to isolate a room.
Mass and/or mechanical isolation stops sound (not foam). Foam is used
to treat reflections and absorb bass modes within the room. As for
the "gray egg crates" mentioned in another post, real egg cartons are
a fallicy seen in movies, they do nothing and are a BIG fire hazard,
wont pass inspection. Open cell polyurethane foam is also a HUGE fire
hazard, actually worse than egg cartons. The only class A fire rated
material excellent for internal reflection control and for controling
bass modes and boominess is rigid fiberglass panels (google Manville
rigid fiberglass, whispertone, etc). Buy the rigid fierglass, cut
panels, and upholster the panels in your favorite decorator fabric
with a hot iron and spray glue, then hang them strategically based on
SPL measurements taken with a tone sweep generator and real time room
analyzer till you get flat frequency responce in the room. Another
thing to consider is the heating duct work to the room if you have
forced air heat (and AC). This will be the biggest nuisance, a
heating contractor can flare the ducts to be quieter and isolate the
furnace vibration from transmitting into the duct work. Also google
"resilient strips" for hanging the ceiling drywall if you want to
soundfroof the ceiling from the joists, again isolation is solving the
problem (not foam or insulation). Google how to build the dual wall
system I described above, it works great and only adds 2 inches to a
wall thickness. You could put insulation in the walls but it will
have little effect, however isolation and/or mass works best, so a
dual wall with 5/8 or 3/4 inch drywall gets you more bang for the buck
than insulation, a third layer of drywall in the cavity will make it
super quiet.

I have a home recording studio too.

On Sep 30, 12:08*pm, windcrest wrote:
On Sep 30, 9:30*am, hibb wrote:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Build a isolated dual wall system using 2x4 studs on 2x6 top and
bottom plates, frame the "outside wall" oc 16 inches like normal,
frame the "inside wall" oc 16 inches but offset the first stud by 8
inches. *Drywall out and in with 5/8 drywall, some add another layer
of drywall in the middle cavity fastened to the backside of the
"outside" wall. *This is the only reasonable way to isolate a room.
Mass and/or mechanical isolation stops sound (not foam). *Foam is used
to treat reflections and absorb bass modes within the room. *As for
the "gray egg crates" mentioned in another post, real egg cartons are
a fallicy seen in movies, they do nothing and are a BIG fire hazard,
wont pass inspection. *Open cell polyurethane foam is also a HUGE fire
hazard, actually worse than egg cartons. *The only class A fire rated
material excellent for internal reflection control and for controling
bass modes and boominess is rigid fiberglass panels (google Manville
rigid fiberglass, whispertone, etc). *Buy the rigid fierglass, cut
panels, and upholster the panels in your favorite decorator fabric
with a hot iron and spray glue, then hang them strategically based on
SPL measurements taken with a tone sweep generator and real time room
analyzer till you get flat frequency responce in the room. *Another
thing to consider is the heating duct work to the room if you have
forced air heat (and AC). *This will be the biggest nuisance, a
heating contractor can flare the ducts to be quieter and isolate the
furnace vibration from transmitting into the duct work. *Also google
"resilient strips" for hanging the ceiling drywall if you want to
soundfroof the ceiling from the joists, again isolation is solving the
problem (not foam or insulation). *Google how to build the dual wall
system I described above, it works great and only adds 2 inches to a
wall thickness. *You could put insulation in the walls but it will
have little effect, however isolation and/or mass works best, so a
dual wall with 5/8 or 3/4 inch drywall gets you more bang for the buck
than insulation, a third layer of drywall in the cavity will make it
super quiet.

I have a home recording studio too.

Wow, there is some good information there. I will have to see just how
much of that I can or need to do in this small room.

Thanks, David

In article
,
windcrest wrote:

On Sep 30, 9:30*am, hibb wrote:
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Build a isolated dual wall system using 2x4 studs on 2x6 top and
bottom plates, frame the "outside wall" oc 16 inches like normal,
frame the "inside wall" oc 16 inches but offset the first stud by 8
inches. Drywall out and in with 5/8 drywall, some add another layer
of drywall in the middle cavity fastened to the backside of the
"outside" wall. This is the only reasonable way to isolate a room.
Mass and/or mechanical isolation stops sound (not foam). Foam is used
to treat reflections and absorb bass modes within the room. As for
the "gray egg crates" mentioned in another post, real egg cartons are
a fallicy seen in movies, they do nothing and are a BIG fire hazard,
wont pass inspection. Open cell polyurethane foam is also a HUGE fire
hazard, actually worse than egg cartons. The only class A fire rated
material excellent for internal reflection control and for controling
bass modes and boominess is rigid fiberglass panels (google Manville
rigid fiberglass, whispertone, etc). Buy the rigid fierglass, cut
panels, and upholster the panels in your favorite decorator fabric
with a hot iron and spray glue, then hang them strategically based on
SPL measurements taken with a tone sweep generator and real time room
analyzer till you get flat frequency responce in the room. Another
thing to consider is the heating duct work to the room if you have
forced air heat (and AC). This will be the biggest nuisance, a
heating contractor can flare the ducts to be quieter and isolate the
furnace vibration from transmitting into the duct work. Also google
"resilient strips" for hanging the ceiling drywall if you want to
soundfroof the ceiling from the joists, again isolation is solving the
problem (not foam or insulation). Google how to build the dual wall
system I described above, it works great and only adds 2 inches to a
wall thickness. You could put insulation in the walls but it will
have little effect, however isolation and/or mass works best, so a
dual wall with 5/8 or 3/4 inch drywall gets you more bang for the buck
than insulation, a third layer of drywall in the cavity will make it
super quiet.

I have a home recording studio too.


How dare you post an informative answer to a question in this
newsgroup. You should be stood up against a soundproof wall and shot.

Hey, how about that health care reform, huh?

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

hibb wrote in news:4d8741cf-1af3-4f65-8a13-
:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

I built a home studion in my previous house.

What you want to do is isolate the room from the house. In effect, a
room inside a room. To simulate this, I used resilient channels to hang
a second layer of drywall offset from the first layer of drywall.

Used acoustic tile above with insulation batting above the tiles.

Last but not least, get a solid door - not a normal hollow slab door.

Larry

On Sep 30, 12:13*pm, GoHabsGo wrote:
hibb wrote in news:4d8741cf-1af3-4f65-8a13-
:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

I built a home studion in my previous house. *

What you want to do is isolate the room from the house. *In effect, a
room inside a room. *To simulate this, I used resilient channels to hang
a second layer of drywall offset from the first layer of drywall.

Used acoustic tile above with insulation batting above the tiles.

Last but not least, get a solid door - not a normal hollow slab door.

Larry

Looks like if I do that I won't have to strip out the old walls. I
could just go into the installation of the second layer of drywall and
ceiling tiles.

Thanks, David

Shy Picker wrote:
On Sep 30, 12:13 pm, GoHabsGo wrote:
hibb wrote in news:4d8741cf-1af3-4f65-8a13-
:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.
What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?
I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.
Thanks, David
I built a home studion in my previous house.

What you want to do is isolate the room from the house. In effect, a
room inside a room. To simulate this, I used resilient channels to hang
a second layer of drywall offset from the first layer of drywall.

Used acoustic tile above with insulation batting above the tiles.

Last but not least, get a solid door - not a normal hollow slab door.

Larry

Looks like if I do that I won't have to strip out the old walls. I
could just go into the installation of the second layer of drywall and
ceiling tiles.

Thanks, David

I remember reading up on that in the 1964 Britannica. First seal the
holes, then install an inner wall acoustically isolated from the first.
They said two layers of plate glass could be pretty effective.

Green Glue is different. It works like the mat under the carpet in a
car. First you have the metal pan, then the mat of heavy insulation,
then the carpet. By pressing against the metal, the mat dampens the
vibrations, and that gives you a quiet ride.

You squirt a bead of Green Glue in a pattern on a sheet of drywall and
screw it over your existing wall. With the Green Glue to dampen
vibrations, you don't have to worry about sound transmitted through the
screws.

"hibb" wrote in message
...
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David


we used egg carton halves tacked all over the walls in the old days.

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT), hibb
wrote:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David
Double staggered stud walls, packed with Roxul Safe and Sound rock
wool, with 5.8" GP DensArmor drywall on the studio side, fastened with
construction adhesive and screws. Inner stud wall isolated from floor
and ceiling with strips od Styrofoam SM or DriCore, and floor on SM
Sheet.
Ceiling insulated with Roxul and suspended - either accousic tile or
heavy drywall(The dens-armor is a bitch to put on a ceiling but it
will not resonate, drum, or retransmit.

On Sep 30, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT), hibb
wrote:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

*Double staggered stud walls, packed with Roxul Safe and Sound rock
wool, with 5.8" GP DensArmor drywall on the studio side, fastened with
construction adhesive and screws. Inner stud wall isolated from floor
and ceiling with strips od Styrofoam SM or DriCore, and floor on SM
Sheet.
Ceiling insulated with Roxul and suspended *- either accousic tile or
heavy drywall(The dens-armor is a bitch to put on a ceiling but it
will not resonate, drum, or retransmit.

I will have to learn more about that Roxul Safe and Sound rock wool.

Thanks, David

hibb wrote:
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Green Glue. You use two layers of drywall with a bead of Green Glue
between. It dampens vibrations. I don't think there's another product
like it.

On Sep 30, 4:40*pm, E Z Peaces wrote:
hibb wrote:
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Green Glue. *You use two layers of drywall with a bead of Green Glue
between. *It dampens vibrations. *I don't think there's another product
like it.

Interesting. I will have to learn more about that.

hibb wrote:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Are you trying to keep sound from coming in from outside, or keep the sounds
you'll make inside from annoying others outside, or both?

Either way, low frequencies usually cause the most trouble. Try to uncouple
instruments (or amplifiers) and mic stands from the floor, chunks of thick
(and dense) foam underneath them helps. I've seen people hang carpet on the
walls to absorb sound, stuff windows full of foam and so on. But those low
frequencies don't care much, it's like bone-conduction, it seems to come
right through the structure of the building. You'll also probably want to
deaden the room a bit to keep sound from bouncing around too much, carpeting
and thick drapes helps a lot with that.

It's worth noting that professional studios are either purpose-built or are
extensively modified for that role, there doesn't seem to be anything like a
"spray on" solution. Lots of ideas out there however....

http://www.audimutesoundproofing.com...ng-studio.aspx

http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/tech_.../teces_14.html

http://www.petethomas.co.uk/home-soundproofing.html

http://www.soundprooffoam.com/Quick_...ce_Studio.html

http://www.soundproofingamerica.com/

On Oct 1, 2:15*am, "DGDevin" wrote:
hibb wrote:
In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

Are you trying to keep sound from coming in from outside, or keep the sounds
you'll make inside from annoying others outside, or both?

Either way, low frequencies usually cause the most trouble. *Try to uncouple
instruments (or amplifiers) and mic stands from the floor, chunks of thick
(and dense) foam underneath them helps. *I've seen people hang carpet on the
walls to absorb sound, stuff windows full of foam and so on. *But those low
frequencies don't care much, it's like bone-conduction, it seems to come
right through the structure of the building. *You'll also probably want to
deaden the room a bit to keep sound from bouncing around too much, carpeting
and thick drapes helps a lot with that.

It's worth noting that professional studios are either purpose-built or are
extensively modified for that role, there doesn't seem to be anything like a
"spray on" solution. *Lots of ideas out there however....

http://www.audimutesoundproofing.com...ng-low-cost-so...

http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/tech_.../teces_14.html

http://www.petethomas.co.uk/home-soundproofing.html

http://www.soundprooffoam.com/Quick_..._Home_Recordin...

http://www.soundproofingamerica.com/

Thanks for those tips and web sites. I was hoping for some web site
recommendations instead of using google and hoping to click on the
right links for what I need.

Right now I am focusing on blocking sound from outside the room. That
includes automobile noises from the road, AC and central heating
noises, tv noises from the downstairs living room and ceiling fan and
other noises from the bedroom underneath the studio.

I am not looking for total perfection but to block out most of the
noise with the construction and using other methods like shutting off
noisy appliances when they pose a problem.

Thanks, David

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT), hibb
wrote:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David


Checkout: http://www.soundproofing.org/

On Oct 1, 7:52*am, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT), hibb
wrote:

In addition to the bedroom I will be remodeling that I mentioned in
another thread, I am also going to remodel another room to use as a
small recording studio.

What's the best process and materials to sound proof the room? Any
good web sites out there that explains how to do it?

I will also post on a couple of the recording newsgroups too.

Thanks, David

* * * * Checkout: *http://www.soundproofing.org/

Thanks, I will check that out.

David