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Calculating gallons used by a toilet
I searched the internet and found some different formulas for
calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. |
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, WhiteTea77581 wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. 1. Did you mean to say TANK, not BOWL? 2. If you found the formulas on the internet, why are you asking us for them? 3. 18 x 14 x 9 = 2268 cubic inches 4. According to http://www.onlineconversion.com 2268 cubic inches is approximately 9.818 US liquid gallons 5. I'm doubtful that represents the actual water used, because the tank probably doesn't empty completely with each flush. And, 10 gallons seems a little excessive. And, I'm not sure the tank is really a rectangular prism. (I am sure that the bowl isn't) |
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On Jul 15, 4:50*am, WhiteTea77581 wrote:
I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. Who cares about measurements of tank, to figure usage turn off water, flush toilet, fill up till full with amount known, there is your usage. |
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Smitty Two wrote: In article , WhiteTea77581 wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. 1. Did you mean to say TANK, not BOWL? 2. If you found the formulas on the internet, why are you asking us for them? 3. 18 x 14 x 9 = 2268 cubic inches 4. According to http://www.onlineconversion.com 2268 cubic inches is approximately 9.818 US liquid gallons 5. I'm doubtful that represents the actual water used, because the tank probably doesn't empty completely with each flush. And, 10 gallons seems a little excessive. And, I'm not sure the tank is really a rectangular prism. (I am sure that the bowl isn't) The calculation is correct and likely the number is accurate enough for most purposes. If not then I suggest the following. Turn off the water inlet valve to the toilet. Then remove the top and mark the water height. Flush the toilet, and then refill the tank (to your mark) with water from a known size container, like a gallon jug. Remember to turn the water back on when you are finished. EJ in NJ |
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On Jul 15, 7:43*am, Hipupchuck wrote:
WhiteTea77581 wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. I have an old toilet probably 50's era. It is 6 x 19 and the water level goes from 2 to 6.75 inches. (6x19x4.75) = 541.5 cu in or 2.3 gallons per flush. What does a new toilet use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 2.3 isnt much, 1.6 is new low flush units and my old ones use near 5. |
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1 galon = 231 cubic inches.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "WhiteTea77581" wrote in message ... I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. |
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news In article , WhiteTea77581 wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. 1. Did you mean to say TANK, not BOWL? 2. If you found the formulas on the internet, why are you asking us for them? 3. 18 x 14 x 9 = 2268 cubic inches 4. According to http://www.onlineconversion.com 2268 cubic inches is approximately 9.818 US liquid gallons Just an FYI, even quicket to just type: 2268 cubic inches to gallons into the Google search bar and hit enter 2268 (cubic inches) = 9.81818182 US gallons More about calculator. 5. I'm doubtful that represents the actual water used, because the tank probably doesn't empty completely with each flush. And, 10 gallons seems a little excessive. And, I'm not sure the tank is really a rectangular prism. (I am sure that the bowl isn't) |
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On Jul 15, 5:47*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , 2268 cubic inches is approximately 9.818 US liquid gallons 5. I'm doubtful that represents the actual water used, because the tank probably doesn't empty completely with each flush. And, 10 gallons seems a little excessive. And, I'm not sure the tank is really a rectangular prism. (I am sure that the bowl isn't) The older tanks were generous on the amount of water used. It still flushes fine after a brick was put in the tank. Andy |
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On Jul 15, 6:41*am, Ernie Willson wrote:
Smitty Two wrote: In article , wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. 1. Did you mean to say TANK, not BOWL? 2. If you found the formulas on the internet, why are you asking us for them? 3. 18 x 14 x 9 = 2268 cubic inches 4. According to http://www.onlineconversion.com 2268 cubic inches is approximately 9.818 US liquid gallons 5. I'm doubtful that represents the actual water used, because the tank probably doesn't empty completely with each flush. And, 10 gallons seems a little excessive. And, I'm not sure the tank is really a rectangular prism. (I am sure that the bowl isn't) The calculation is correct and likely the number is accurate enough for most purposes. If not then I suggest the following. Turn off the water inlet valve to the toilet. Then remove the top and mark the water height. Flush the toilet, and then refill the tank (to your mark) with water from a known size container, like a gallon jug. Remember to turn the water back on when you are finished. EJ in NJ Thanks. I knew that there was a way to calculate the amount of gallons without doing the above. Andy in Pearland, Texas |
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On Jul 15, 7:50*am, ransley wrote:
On Jul 15, 7:43*am, Hipupchuck wrote: WhiteTea77581wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. I have an old toilet probably 50's era. It is 6 x 19 and the water level goes from 2 to 6.75 inches. (6x19x4.75) = 541.5 cu in or 2.3 gallons per flush. What does a new toilet use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 2.3 isnt much, 1.6 is new low flush units and my old ones use near 5. My daughter has one of new 1.6 gallon toilets. I have nicknamed them "3 flushers". Andy |
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On Jul 15, 8:15*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: 1 galon = 231 cubic inches. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org Thanks. Andy |
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Ernie Willson wrote:
The calculation is correct and likely the number is accurate enough for most purposes. If not then I suggest the following. Turn off the water inlet valve to the toilet. Then remove the top and mark the water height. Flush the toilet, and then refill the tank (to your mark) with water from a known size container, like a gallon jug. Remember to turn the water back on when you are finished. EJ in NJ That tells you how much water is used by the tank, but the toilet also fills and uses the water in the bowl, too, which is filled by a mechanism other than straight filling the tank. To measure the water used by the bowl, remove the little hose that fills the riser column in the tank, put it into an adequately sized container, and flush the toilet. When the tank finishes filling, measure the amount of water which accumulated in the adequately sized container, and add that amount to the volume of water used by the tank. That will give you the total amount of water used by your toilet, including both tank and bowl, per flush. Jon |
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: On Jul 15, 7:50*am, ransley wrote: On Jul 15, 7:43*am, Hipupchuck wrote: WhiteTea77581wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. I have an old toilet probably 50's era. It is 6 x 19 and the water leve l goes from 2 to 6.75 inches. (6x19x4.75) = 541.5 cu in or 2.3 gallons per flush. What does a new toilet use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 2.3 isnt much, 1.6 is new low flush units and my old ones use near 5. My daughter has one of new 1.6 gallon toilets. I have nicknamed them "3 flushers". Andy Makes you ****ed off and wanna return it...lodged turd and all. |
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WhiteTea77581 wrote:
My daughter has one of new 1.6 gallon toilets. I have nicknamed them "3 flushers". No such problem here. |
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Hipupchuck wrote:
WhiteTea77581 wrote: On Jul 15, 7:50 am, ransley wrote: On Jul 15, 7:43 am, Hipupchuck wrote: WhiteTea77581wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. I have an old toilet probably 50's era. It is 6 x 19 and the water level goes from 2 to 6.75 inches. (6x19x4.75) = 541.5 cu in or 2.3 gallons per flush. What does a new toilet use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 2.3 isnt much, 1.6 is new low flush units and my old ones use near 5. My daughter has one of new 1.6 gallon toilets. I have nicknamed them "3 flushers". Andy Depends on the amount of fiber in your diet. Increase your fiber for a one flush sitting. Backwards. More fiber means more "floaters." More floaters means more flushes. If you eat nothing but red meat ("sinkers"), you should be fine. |
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On Jul 15, 10:31 am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote: When the tank finishes filling, measure the amount of water which accumulated in the adequately sized container, and add that amount to the volume of water used by the tank. This still doesn't completely get you there since the valve is also spraying water into the tank while the flapper is open and some of that is going throught the bowl and down the drain. How much depends on the design and your water pressure. Some fill so slowly this probably doesn't matter much. About the only way to measure it accurately would be to either remove the toilet, set it on top of a bucket and flush it (with the lines still attached) or find another way to capture all the water from the drain pipe. |
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On Jul 15, 10:57*am, Hipupchuck wrote:
WhiteTea77581wrote: On Jul 15, 7:50 am, ransley wrote: On Jul 15, 7:43 am, Hipupchuck wrote: WhiteTea77581wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. I have an old toilet probably 50's era. It is 6 x 19 and the water level goes from 2 to 6.75 inches. (6x19x4.75) = 541.5 cu in or 2.3 gallons per flush. What does a new toilet use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 2.3 isnt much, 1.6 is new low flush units and my old ones use near 5. My daughter has one of new 1.6 gallon toilets. I have nicknamed them "3 flushers". Andy Depends on the amount of fiber in your diet. Increase your fiber for a one flush sitting. Keep your day job, you won't make it as a comedienne. Andy |
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Larry The Snake Guy wrote:
On Jul 15, 10:31 am, "Jon Danniken" wrote: When the tank finishes filling, measure the amount of water which accumulated in the adequately sized container, and add that amount to the volume of water used by the tank. This still doesn't completely get you there since the valve is also spraying water into the tank while the flapper is open and some of that is going throught the bowl and down the drain. How much depends on the design and your water pressure. Some fill so slowly this probably doesn't matter much. About the only way to measure it accurately would be to either remove the toilet, set it on top of a bucket and flush it (with the lines still attached) or find another way to capture all the water from the drain pipe. It seems know one here is on municipal water? All I need to do is note the meter reading before and after flush. |
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WhiteTea77581 wrote:
On Jul 15, 7:50 am, ransley wrote: On Jul 15, 7:43 am, Hipupchuck wrote: WhiteTea77581wrote: I searched the internet and found some different formulas for calculating the volume of water used by a toilet. I took measurements of a toilet made in the 1950's and the inside measurements of the bowl were 18 x 14 x 9 inches . The height was measured from the bottom of the bowl to the fill line. Does anyone know the correct formula for calculating how many gallons that represents? Thanks. I have an old toilet probably 50's era. It is 6 x 19 and the water level goes from 2 to 6.75 inches. (6x19x4.75) = 541.5 cu in or 2.3 gallons per flush. What does a new toilet use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 2.3 isnt much, 1.6 is new low flush units and my old ones use near 5. My daughter has one of new 1.6 gallon toilets. I have nicknamed them "3 flushers". Andy The early ones were. We still have one in a seldom used half bath. When the government mandated lower volume toilets the manufacturers fitted smaller tanks without much thought. We have the newer version of the same toilet in another bathroom and it has a much larger fully glazed outlet and is a one flush version |
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Larry The Snake Guy wrote:
On Jul 15, 10:31 am, "Jon Danniken" wrote: When the tank finishes filling, measure the amount of water which accumulated in the adequately sized container, and add that amount to the volume of water used by the tank. This still doesn't completely get you there since the valve is also spraying water into the tank while the flapper is open and some of that is going throught the bowl and down the drain. How much depends on the design and your water pressure. Some fill so slowly this probably doesn't matter much. About the only way to measure it accurately would be to either remove the toilet, set it on top of a bucket and flush it (with the lines still attached) or find another way to capture all the water from the drain pipe. Ah yes, I hadn't thought of that, good call. For a rough estimate, one could use a timer to make note of the time elapsed between activation of the handle and the flapper closing, and measure the amount of water that comes out of the relevant outputs (one in tank, one for bowl) in that time, then add it to the other tank and bowl numbers. Jon |
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On Jul 15, 3:39*pm, George wrote:
Larry The Snake Guy wrote: On Jul 15, 10:31 am, "Jon Danniken" wrote: When the tank finishes filling, measure the amount of water which accumulated in the adequately sized container, and add that amount to the volume of water used by the tank. This still doesn't completely get you there since the valve is also spraying water into the tank while the flapper is open and some of that is going throught the bowl and down the drain. How much depends on the design and your water pressure. Some fill so slowly this probably doesn't matter much. About the only way to measure it accurately would be to either remove the toilet, set it on top of a bucket and flush it (with the lines still attached) or find another way to capture all the water from the drain pipe. It seems know one here is on municipal water? All I need to do is note the meter reading before and after flush. I think most meters (at least around here), measure cubic feet of water, not gallons. So don't forget to convert. Also, I'm not sure they have the accuracy you need for very small measurements. You might need to flush the toilet 100 times to get rid of rounding error. |
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* Take the top off the tank.
* Note the water level. * Turn the water supply off * FLush * Manually refill the tank measuring the water as you fill. |
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PatM wrote:
On Jul 15, 3:39 pm, George wrote: Larry The Snake Guy wrote: On Jul 15, 10:31 am, "Jon Danniken" wrote: When the tank finishes filling, measure the amount of water which accumulated in the adequately sized container, and add that amount to the volume of water used by the tank. This still doesn't completely get you there since the valve is also spraying water into the tank while the flapper is open and some of that is going throught the bowl and down the drain. How much depends on the design and your water pressure. Some fill so slowly this probably doesn't matter much. About the only way to measure it accurately would be to either remove the toilet, set it on top of a bucket and flush it (with the lines still attached) or find another way to capture all the water from the drain pipe. It seems know one here is on municipal water? All I need to do is note the meter reading before and after flush. I think most meters (at least around here), measure cubic feet of water, not gallons. So don't forget to convert. Also, I'm not sure they have the accuracy you need for very small measurements. You might need to flush the toilet 100 times to get rid of rounding error. Our utility uses meters that have both an odometer type drum and a analog sweep hand with a fairly high resolution. I did check the meter some time ago by dispensing a gallon according to the meter and weighing it on an electronic scale. This was after having a wildly inaccurate meter replaced. Usual for here is the meter reads and they bill us in gallons. CCF is usually used for natural gas in my area. |
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I'm remembering the old joke about how to calcuate the
height of a building, using a barometer. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Shut off water. Remove toilet from base, and from water
supply. Mount toilet over bucket. Reconnect water supply. Pull flush handle. This conversation ig getting a bit "out there" in space. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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"Stormin Mormon" writes:
I'm remembering the old joke about how to calcuate the height of a building, using a barometer. -- Wow - I was thinking the exact same thing and it's been about 33 years since my junior high math teacher gave us that routine... It is one of my all-time favorites. |
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blueman wrote: "Stormin Mormon" writes: I'm remembering the old joke about how to calcuate the height of a building, using a barometer. -- Wow - I was thinking the exact same thing and it's been about 33 years since my junior high math teacher gave us that routine... It is one of my all-time favorites. As I recall, there were *several* possibilities, none of which relied on barometric pressure calculations. I've only got three in mind now, but I think there were more. |
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And the joke is out there on the web, somewhere.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "blueman" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" writes: I'm remembering the old joke about how to calcuate the height of a building, using a barometer. -- Wow - I was thinking the exact same thing and it's been about 33 years since my junior high math teacher gave us that routine... It is one of my all-time favorites. |
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:29:08 -0400, Hipupchuck
wrote: wrote: * Take the top off the tank. * Note the water level. * Turn the water supply off * FLush * Manually refill the tank measuring the water as you fill. That 's retarded and inaccurate. I take it anyone who does not agree with you is retarded and inaccurate? How do you figure it is inaccurate. I would suggest it is the most accurate method. You have something more accurate? |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:29:08 -0400, Hipupchuck wrote: wrote: * Take the top off the tank. * Note the water level. * Turn the water supply off * FLush * Manually refill the tank measuring the water as you fill. That 's retarded and inaccurate. I take it anyone who does not agree with you is retarded and inaccurate? How do you figure it is inaccurate. I would suggest it is the most accurate method. You have something more accurate? OK, sport. The "problem" with your method is that it ignores the water that's in most toilets goes into the overflow tube. You can account for this by: 1) Flush the toilet normally and time how long the float valve permits water to flow. 2) Flush again but hold the flapper valve open and cause the water that goes into the overflow tube to go into another contain. Let that water flow for the time arrived at in #1, above. 3) Add water that would have gone down the overflow tube to your base measurement. |
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:12:41 -0400, "John Gilmer"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:29:08 -0400, Hipupchuck wrote: wrote: * Take the top off the tank. * Note the water level. * Turn the water supply off * FLush * Manually refill the tank measuring the water as you fill. That 's retarded and inaccurate. I take it anyone who does not agree with you is retarded and inaccurate? How do you figure it is inaccurate. I would suggest it is the most accurate method. You have something more accurate? OK, sport. The "problem" with your method is that it ignores the water that's in most toilets goes into the overflow tube. You have a good point there. |
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