"NSN" wrote in message
...
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. I am
hoping that a Drano like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm

Muriatic Acid is a strong, corrosive, inorganic acid (HCl), manufactured by
absorbing hydrogen chloride in water. It is one of the most corrosive of
acids, and is particularly destructive to cellulose, breaking the cellulose
chain into even smaller units, resulting ultimately in its complete
hydrolysis. It is the same chemical as Hydrochloric Acid.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet for more info

Google muriatic acid toilet and get 36,000 hits.

Note the above about cellulose, If some paper is sticking, it will take
care of it.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:12:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"NSN" wrote in message
.. .
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. I am
hoping that a Drano like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm

Muriatic Acid is a strong, corrosive, inorganic acid (HCl), manufactured by
absorbing hydrogen chloride in water. It is one of the most corrosive of
acids, and is particularly destructive to cellulose, breaking the cellulose
chain into even smaller units, resulting ultimately in its complete
hydrolysis. It is the same chemical as Hydrochloric Acid.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet for more info


This link states NOT to use muriatic acid IF on a septic system. Said
to kill the necessary bacteria. Instead use a septic safe product.

Something not mentioned prior to your link.

Google muriatic acid toilet and get 36,000 hits.

Note the above about cellulose, If some paper is sticking, it will take
care of it.

On Sep 30, 2:49�pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:12:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:







"NSN" wrote in message
.. .
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. �I am
hoping that a Drano �like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm

Muriatic Acid is a strong, corrosive, inorganic acid (HCl), manufactured by
absorbing hydrogen chloride in water. It is one of the most corrosive of
acids, and is particularly destructive to cellulose, breaking the cellulose
chain into even smaller units, resulting ultimately in its complete
hydrolysis. It is the same chemical as Hydrochloric Acid.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet�for more info

This link states NOT to use muriatic acid IF on a septic system. Said
to kill the necessary bacteria. Instead use a septic safe product.

Something not mentioned prior to your link.



Google � � �muriatic acid toilet � � �and get 36,000 hits.

Note the above about cellulose, �If some paper is sticking, it will take
care of it.- Hide quoted text -

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Hi I am hallerb and have used muriatic acid on several slow toilets
with no bad effects. other than they flush fine when your done

as long as the toilet flushes solids properly with a bucket of water,
then the acid should work.

you can use CLR or even vinegar, but thats slow expensive and not
nearly as effective.

hard water clogs the interior bowl rim passages, slowing the wave
action that actually creates the flush.

people with this problem have several choices.

use a bucket to flush solids

replace the toilet with a new one.

or use acid.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 30, 2:49?pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:12:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:







"NSN" wrote in message
.. .
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. ?I am
hoping that a Drano ?like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm

Muriatic Acid is a strong, corrosive, inorganic acid (HCl), manufactured by
absorbing hydrogen chloride in water. It is one of the most corrosive of
acids, and is particularly destructive to cellulose, breaking the cellulose
chain into even smaller units, resulting ultimately in its complete
hydrolysis. It is the same chemical as Hydrochloric Acid.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet?for more info

This link states NOT to use muriatic acid IF on a septic system. Said
to kill the necessary bacteria. Instead use a septic safe product.

Something not mentioned prior to your link.



Google ? ? ?muriatic acid toilet ? ? ?and get 36,000 hits.

Note the above about cellulose, ?If some paper is sticking, it will take
care of it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi I am hallerb and have used muriatic acid on several slow toilets
with no bad effects. other than they flush fine when your done

as long as the toilet flushes solids properly with a bucket of water,
then the acid should work.

you can use CLR or even vinegar, but thats slow expensive and not
nearly as effective.

hard water clogs the interior bowl rim passages, slowing the wave
action that actually creates the flush.

people with this problem have several choices.

use a bucket to flush solids

replace the toilet with a new one.

or use acid.

I've used this (your) acid trick and about to do it again.

What about septic tanks, acid, etc.?

On Sep 30, 5:44�pm, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
On Sep 30, 2:49?pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:12:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:

"NSN" wrote in message
.. .
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. ?I am
hoping that a Drano ?like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm

Muriatic Acid is a strong, corrosive, inorganic acid (HCl), manufactured by
absorbing hydrogen chloride in water. It is one of the most corrosive of
acids, and is particularly destructive to cellulose, breaking the cellulose
chain into even smaller units, resulting ultimately in its complete
hydrolysis. It is the same chemical as Hydrochloric Acid.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet?formore info

This link states NOT to use muriatic acid IF on a septic system. Said
to kill the necessary bacteria. Instead use a septic safe product.

Something not mentioned prior to your link.

Google ? ? ?muriatic acid toilet ? ? ?and get 36,000 hits.

Note the above about cellulose, ?If some paper is sticking, it will take
care of it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi I am hallerb and have used muriatic acid on several slow toilets
with no bad effects. other than they flush fine when your done

as long as the toilet flushes solids properly with a bucket of water,
then the acid should work.

you can use CLR or even vinegar, but thats slow expensive and not
nearly as effective.

hard water clogs the interior bowl rim passages, slowing the wave
action that actually creates the flush.

people with this problem have several choices.

use a bucket to flush solids

replace the toilet with a new one.

or use acid.

I've used this (your) �acid trick and about to do it again.

What about septic tanks, acid, etc.?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

i dont think acid and septics are a good idea.

better to pull the toilet, do the acid treatmenty outdoors, flush well
with hose, and replace toilet.

when doing toliet, I always flush repeatedly at least 10 times
afterward.

you could also tape all the drain holes shut and use vinegar
oivernite.

frankly ithe acid is quick easy cheap and effective

wrote in message news:cf445f79-39d2-44dc-98b7-

better to pull the toilet, do the acid treatmenty outdoors, flush well
with hose, and replace toilet.

when doing toliet, I always flush repeatedly at least 10 times
afterward.

you could also tape all the drain holes shut and use vinegar
oivernite.

frankly ithe acid is quick easy cheap and effective

==========

Yes, it works very well, and is easy and cheap. As I said before, I had all
the lines snaked by Roto-somebody, at a cost of close to $300.00 and still
the toilet wasn't running freely. After your treatment, it was like a
"miracle in a bowl" LOL
and the toilet really is sparkling clean afterward with all that gunk out of
those little holes. The only thing that you have to be careful about is not
splashing on yourself, and as you say open the window. I put a portable fan
in the bathroom before I started, opened the window, and turned the fan on
on my way out. Really, not much smell left at all afterwards.

Cheri

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:15:40 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatlodinetdotcom
wrote:

wrote in message news:cf445f79-39d2-44dc-98b7-

better to pull the toilet, do the acid treatmenty outdoors, flush well
with hose, and replace toilet.

when doing toliet, I always flush repeatedly at least 10 times
afterward.

you could also tape all the drain holes shut and use vinegar
oivernite.

frankly ithe acid is quick easy cheap and effective

==========

Yes, it works very well, and is easy and cheap. As I said before, I had all
the lines snaked by Roto-somebody, at a cost of close to $300.00 and still
the toilet wasn't running freely. After your treatment, it was like a
"miracle in a bowl" LOL
and the toilet really is sparkling clean afterward with all that gunk out of
those little holes. The only thing that you have to be careful about is not
splashing on yourself, and as you say open the window. I put a portable fan
in the bathroom before I started, opened the window, and turned the fan on
on my way out. Really, not much smell left at all afterwards.

Cheri


So what do you do with the left over acid?

Oren wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 30, 2:49?pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:12:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:







"NSN" wrote in message
.. .
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. ?I am
hoping that a Drano ?like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm

Muriatic Acid is a strong, corrosive, inorganic acid (HCl), manufactured by
absorbing hydrogen chloride in water. It is one of the most corrosive of
acids, and is particularly destructive to cellulose, breaking the cellulose
chain into even smaller units, resulting ultimately in its complete
hydrolysis. It is the same chemical as Hydrochloric Acid.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet?for more info

This link states NOT to use muriatic acid IF on a septic system. Said
to kill the necessary bacteria. Instead use a septic safe product.

Something not mentioned prior to your link.



Google ? ? ?muriatic acid toilet ? ? ?and get 36,000 hits.

Note the above about cellulose, ?If some paper is sticking, it will take
care of it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi I am hallerb and have used muriatic acid on several slow toilets
with no bad effects. other than they flush fine when your done

as long as the toilet flushes solids properly with a bucket of water,
then the acid should work.

you can use CLR or even vinegar, but thats slow expensive and not
nearly as effective.

hard water clogs the interior bowl rim passages, slowing the wave
action that actually creates the flush.

people with this problem have several choices.

use a bucket to flush solids

replace the toilet with a new one.

or use acid.

I've used this (your) acid trick and about to do it again.

What about septic tanks, acid, etc.?

I'd be cautious on the quantity, but the small amount of acid relative
to 1,000gal or more volume in the septic tank shouldn't be a problem.
Doing the baking soda flush would add another level of safety.

If you're really paranoid, remove the toilet and do the whole acid flush
thing in the back yard using a garden hose to fill the tank. Do the
baking soda thing to neutralize the acid on the ground and flush well
with the hose.