I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.

Holes cut out for ceiling fans.

Holes cut out to investigate where some mysterious wires/pipes run to.

Holes cut out to run new EMT pipes.

Holes cut out for new recessed cans.

Holes cut out for new AC duct outlet location.

Existing hole for AC duct outlet that is to be relocated.

Existing holes from existing fixtures that are to be eliminated.

Some holes were cut with hole saw (clean) and some holes were made
using a hammer (the contractor didn't have a saw handy so he pounded a
hole out creating an irregular shaped hole larger than necessary)...

I am wondering, may be it's easier to take the whole thing down and
redo new sheetrock, but then I have to cut the holes, tape the joints
etc...I am not sure which is more work, a LOT of patches or do new
sheet rock?

or should this decision be left to the sheetrock guy - quote me how
much to patch and how much to take down and do new to see if it's
close?

Thanks in advance,

MC

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:02:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.

Holes cut out for ceiling fans.

Holes cut out to investigate where some mysterious wires/pipes run to.

Holes cut out to run new EMT pipes.

Holes cut out for new recessed cans.

Holes cut out for new AC duct outlet location.

Existing hole for AC duct outlet that is to be relocated.

Existing holes from existing fixtures that are to be eliminated.

Some holes were cut with hole saw (clean) and some holes were made
using a hammer (the contractor didn't have a saw handy so he pounded a
hole out creating an irregular shaped hole larger than necessary)...

I am wondering, may be it's easier to take the whole thing down and
redo new sheetrock, but then I have to cut the holes, tape the joints
etc...I am not sure which is more work, a LOT of patches or do new
sheet rock?

or should this decision be left to the sheetrock guy - quote me how
much to patch and how much to take down and do new to see if it's
close?

Thanks in advance,

MC

Around here a handyman would get $20.00 per hole patched. Not sure the
cost of new sheetrock, except is cost per sq ft to hang.

It would make my neck sore and my arms tired, but I would patch.

Oren
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wrote:
I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.
....
I am wondering, may be it's easier to take the whole thing down and
redo new sheetrock, but then I have to cut the holes, tape the joints
etc...I am not sure which is more work, a LOT of patches or do new
sheet rock?

or should this decision be left to the sheetrock guy - quote me how
much to patch and how much to take down and do new to see if it's
close?
....
If you're going to have it done by "the sheetrock guy", you can ask but
you can almost guarantee he'll be cheaper on a clean install rather than
patching. Depends also on what the texturing, if any, was on the
existing as if there's something other than just smooth coat to match,
that's more labor, too. That's assuming you go ahead a do the demo, of
course. Most "hangers" won't want to do the demo; they'll expect
ready-to-hang framing. So, even if he'll quote that part, it's likely
he'll be high dollar for it.

Of course, if there are areas w/ plumbing or other services, one might
want to think carefully the decision to sheetrock it all again solid,
anyway, in favor of something w/ less intrusive access for future repairs...

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wrote:
I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.

Holes cut out for ceiling fans.

Holes cut out to investigate where some mysterious wires/pipes run to.

Holes cut out to run new EMT pipes.

Holes cut out for new recessed cans.

Holes cut out for new AC duct outlet location.

Existing hole for AC duct outlet that is to be relocated.

Existing holes from existing fixtures that are to be eliminated.

Some holes were cut with hole saw (clean) and some holes were made
using a hammer (the contractor didn't have a saw handy so he pounded a
hole out creating an irregular shaped hole larger than necessary)...

I am wondering, may be it's easier to take the whole thing down and
redo new sheetrock, but then I have to cut the holes, tape the joints
etc...I am not sure which is more work, a LOT of patches or do new
sheet rock?

or should this decision be left to the sheetrock guy - quote me how
much to patch and how much to take down and do new to see if it's
close?


Think outside the box:

1. Wallpaper the ceiling.
2. Staple (or glue) ceiling tile to the existing junk.
3. Skylight.
4. ???

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:53:12 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

wrote:
I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.

Think outside the box:

1. Wallpaper the ceiling.

Remove cats first!

2. Staple (or glue) ceiling tile to the existing junk.

Check for cats in the ceiling.

3. Skylight.
4. ???


Oren
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Oren wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:53:12 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

wrote:
I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.

Think outside the box:

1. Wallpaper the ceiling.

Remove cats first!

2. Staple (or glue) ceiling tile to the existing junk.

Check for cats in the ceiling.


Excellent advice! On the same par as turning off the circuit breaker before
messing with the electric.

On Jan 28, 4:02*pm, wrote:
I am doing some extensive remodeling and the ceiling sheet rock is
beginning to look like a battlefield.

Holes cut out for ceiling fans.

Holes cut out to investigate where some mysterious wires/pipes run to.

Holes cut out to run new EMT pipes.

Holes cut out for new recessed cans.

Holes cut out for new AC duct outlet location.

Existing hole for AC duct outlet that is to be relocated.

Existing holes from existing fixtures that are to be eliminated.

Some holes were cut with hole saw (clean) and some holes were made
using a hammer (the contractor didn't have a saw handy so he pounded a
hole out creating an irregular shaped hole larger than necessary)...

I am wondering, may be it's easier to take the whole thing down and
redo new sheetrock, but then I have to cut the holes, tape the joints
etc...I am not sure which is more work, a LOT of patches or do new
sheet rock?

or should this decision be left to the sheetrock guy - quote me how
much to patch and how much to take down and do new to see if it's
close?

Thanks in advance,

MC

Is there any particular reason you can't just sheetrock right over the
existing sheetrock?

Otherwise, patch it and then popcorn it.

Is there any particular reason you can't just sheetrock right over the
existing sheetrock?


I wouldn't. Way too heavy on a ceiling.

Otherwise, patch it and then popcorn it.-

Great idea. Did that once...covers all sins!

--Jeff

On Jan 29, 1:22�pm, Jeff B wrote:
Is there any particular reason you can't just sheetrock right over the
existing sheetrock?

I wouldn't. �Way too heavy on a ceiling.

Otherwise, patch it and then popcorn it.-

Great idea. �Did that once...covers all sins!

--Jeff

What about full-depth patches with little concern for cosmetics, then
using 1/4" over the whole ceiling? That way the drywall is still at
full thickness for any fire codes, and you'd still have the clean, new
drywall ceiling, right? Glued and screwed, of course. The biggest
problem would be locating joists for screwing. Would there be a
sagging problem with that?

Excellent advice! On the same par as turning off the circuit breaker
before messing with the electric.

Yes but that's not an internet classic meme like Ceiling Cat:

http://www.ceilingcat.com/img/ceilingcat.jpg
http://www.ceilingcat.com/

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:23:08 -0000, Steve Kraus
wrote:

Excellent advice! On the same par as turning off the circuit breaker
before messing with the electric.

Yes but that's not an internet classic meme like Ceiling Cat:

http://www.ceilingcat.com/img/ceilingcat.jpg

It sums up the point.

Count cats before you close the ceiling.


Oren
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Oren wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:23:08 -0000, Steve Kraus
wrote:

Excellent advice! On the same par as turning off the circuit breaker
before messing with the electric.

Yes but that's not an internet classic meme like Ceiling Cat:

http://www.ceilingcat.com/img/ceilingcat.jpg

It sums up the point.

Count cats before you close the ceiling.

Or the cat will count coup?