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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron

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On Sep 28, 3:15 pm, Ron wrote:
Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


Go outside and beat the crap out of the dude inside the car out in
front of the house with the remote and big grin on his face.

In all seriousness, one of those is malfunctioning (at least it sounds
like it is). Try something simple like taking the batteries out and
putting them back in.

John

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Ron wrote:

Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


Good chance there's insects crawling into the detectors.

That's what's happened in our home from time to time and once I spotted
on of the little buggers crawling out of the detector I sprayed a little
RAID on the ceiling around the unit, which solved that problem.

Jeff

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on 9/28/2007 5:15 PM Ron said the following:
Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


Family include females? Hair spray can set off an alarm, especially when
the detector is between the sprayer and the CAC return.

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Ron wrote:
Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?


What does the manufacturer say about this particular "beep code?"

The only thing that comes to mind is run-down battery.




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I've run into this numerous times. Because it only happens
intermittently,it's a pita to locate the defective unit. It's probably not a
low battery, as that generally has something like a beep every 45 seconds
and continues. Typical units can be removed by a 1/4 turn counter clockwise,
pull down and unplug the jack in the back of the unit. I usually remove half
the units and see if the remaining units function properly, then one by one,
over time, replace each of the removed units until you find the one causing
the problem. If after removing the first half of the units, the problem
persists, put back the removed units and remove the others



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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron



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If these unit have batteries in them, store the removed units in a remote
location, as they are still going to operate



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I've run into this numerous times. Because it only happens
intermittently,it's a pita to locate the defective unit. It's probably not
a low battery, as that generally has something like a beep every 45
seconds and continues. Typical units can be removed by a 1/4 turn counter
clockwise, pull down and unplug the jack in the back of the unit. I
usually remove half the units and see if the remaining units function
properly, then one by one, over time, replace each of the removed units
until you find the one causing the problem. If after removing the first
half of the units, the problem persists, put back the removed units and
remove the others



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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron





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On Sep 28, 4:15 pm, Ron wrote:
Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


It's not bizarre, the battery check is failing in one of the units,
smoke det. batteries should be changed twice yearly when you change
your clocks for daylight time. Our fire dept gives away free
batteries (first come first served) twice a year.


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It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


It's not bizarre, the battery check is failing in one of the units,
smoke det. batteries should be changed twice yearly when you change
your clocks for daylight time. Our fire dept gives away free
batteries (first come first served) twice a year.



This has always struck me as a waste of batteries and a contributor to
mercury in the environment. I will never be an environmentalist, but
throwing out perfectly good batteries is quite a waste. Hell, the units
even beep at you when the battery needs to be replaced. Do you replace
light bulbs twice a year?

But, I guess I'm one of the modernized users here. My 2007 van has an oil
life monitor thing on it and I don't change the oil until it says it's time,
this time I got 9,000 miles out of the oil before the light came on.

No sense in throwing things out when they're fully functional.

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On Sep 28, 3:52 pm, RickH wrote:
On Sep 28, 4:15 pm, Ron wrote:

Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....


It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?


Ron


It's not bizarre, the battery check is failing in one of the units,
smoke det. batteries should be changed twice yearly when you change
your clocks for daylight time. Our fire dept gives away free
batteries (first come first served) twice a year.


It gets pretty bizarre when you can never get close to the one that's
doing the eratic beeping. Two seconds before I think I know which one
is doing it, the thing stops! I think it's in the kitchen, but I took
that one down-- it's a bad place for an alarm when you cook smokey
Jimmy Dean sausage. But I can never track the culprit down. I think
there's a hidden alarm somewhere, but if so, it's a very well hidden
beastie. I've seen some truly bizarre and unusual things before that
would make the X-Files seem like a fairy tale, but nothing matches
this to date.

Ron



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"Ron" wrote in message
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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


Read the small print on the leaflet. Manufacturers state that these are not
to be used as lifesaving devices, as they have a failure rate of
approximately 35%. National Fire Safety tests show that rate can be as high
as 55%. Ever wonder why you NEVER hear of any smoke detector companies
being held liable and having to pay money for people dying from asphyxiation
and fires?

Steve


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On Sep 29, 3:05 am, "SteveB" wrote:
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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....


It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?


Ron


Read the small print on the leaflet. Manufacturers state that these are not
to be used as lifesaving devices, as they have a failure rate of
approximately 35%. National Fire Safety tests show that rate can be as high
as 55%. Ever wonder why you NEVER hear of any smoke detector companies
being held liable and having to pay money for people dying from asphyxiation
and fires?

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Never actually thought about it before. Now I can sleep, worries
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There shouldn't be a smoke detector in the garage, kitchen, boiler room, or
attic. These locations should have heat detectors.There are also specific
locations like corners of rooms and peaks of cathedral ceilings which
should be avoided.


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On Sep 28, 3:52 pm, RickH wrote:
On Sep 28, 4:15 pm, Ron wrote:

Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....


It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?


Ron


It's not bizarre, the battery check is failing in one of the units,
smoke det. batteries should be changed twice yearly when you change
your clocks for daylight time. Our fire dept gives away free
batteries (first come first served) twice a year.


It gets pretty bizarre when you can never get close to the one that's
doing the eratic beeping. Two seconds before I think I know which one
is doing it, the thing stops! I think it's in the kitchen, but I took
that one down-- it's a bad place for an alarm when you cook smokey
Jimmy Dean sausage. But I can never track the culprit down. I think
there's a hidden alarm somewhere, but if so, it's a very well hidden
beastie. I've seen some truly bizarre and unusual things before that
would make the X-Files seem like a fairy tale, but nothing matches
this to date.

Ron



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Given sufficient time, they have a failure rate of 100%


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"Ron" wrote in message
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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron


Read the small print on the leaflet. Manufacturers state that these are
not to be used as lifesaving devices, as they have a failure rate of
approximately 35%. National Fire Safety tests show that rate can be as
high as 55%. Ever wonder why you NEVER hear of any smoke detector
companies being held liable and having to pay money for people dying from
asphyxiation and fires?

Steve



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If they hard wired (all connected together so if one of them goes off they
all go off). It may be one of two things.

One of the batteries is dead out of the box or after they were installed,
someone forgot to pull the plastic tab that activates the battery. Some
detectors are shipped with either a 10 year battiery or a standard 9 volt
allready installed, I guess for the people that install them without a
battery.

Either way I think the system is telling you have a dead battery.

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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron





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Given sufficient time, they have a failure rate of 100%


They are one of the few consumer products that five out of ten you buy are
defective.

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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....


It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?


Ron


Read the small print on the leaflet. Manufacturers state that these are
not
to be used as lifesaving devices, as they have a failure rate of
approximately 35%. National Fire Safety tests show that rate can be as
high
as 55%. Ever wonder why you NEVER hear of any smoke detector companies
being held liable and having to pay money for people dying from
asphyxiation
and fires?

Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Never actually thought about it before. Now I can sleep, worries
free...

Ron


Not to worry. With your level of intoxicant use, I doubt you have any
trouble sleeping.

Steve


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Cliff Hartle wrote:
If they hard wired (all connected together so if one of them goes off they
all go off). It may be one of two things.

One of the batteries is dead out of the box or after they were installed,
someone forgot to pull the plastic tab that activates the battery. Some
detectors are shipped with either a 10 year battiery or a standard 9 volt
allready installed, I guess for the people that install them without a
battery.

Either way I think the system is telling you have a dead battery.

"Ron" wrote in message
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Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron



From the description given I will venture a GUESS that these may be
radio intertied detectors. If they are they are FCC part 15 devices.
That means that they may not cause radio interference and they must
except any interference from licensed users of radio. Any stray radio
signal that is in the same band of frequencies used by the detectors can
set them off. Such signals can be produced by baby monitors, wireless
security systems, wireless video units, and so on.
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:15:26 -0700, Ron wrote:

Some charitable organization did some repair work on our house and in
the process, put up smoke alarms-- everywhere. Now for some unknown
reason, and for no apparent cause, one of those bloody smoke alarms
start going beep-- beep -- beep (long pause) beep-- beep-- beep-- beep
(long psuse) beep-- beep....

It's like a psychotic game of hide and go seek: I go running around
the house trying to find out which of those electronic *******s is
driving the family crazy with the noise, but whichever the device is,
it stops and may not make any noise for another long stretch of time.
Since there is no smoke, no fire, there shouldn't be any reason for
smoke alarms to be doing that right? Has anyone else had this kind of
problem? Have any solutions for this kind of bizarre problem?

Ron

Don't know if it is true, but my neighbor said that his smoke detector
kept going off so they removed it to get it repaired. ?? And while
it was out the clock in the stove started a fire that burned out their
whole kitchen and some more, plus I suppose the water. I know the
fire happened.

It may have been smouldering for weeks.

Also, my detectors are old, but they start beeping every couple days,
and beep more often as time goes off. It took 9 months or a year to
go to the point where it beeped every second and that stage stopped
after about 2 days. 6 months into the 9 months or year, I made some
smoke doing something and the smoke detector went off as if the
battery was fine.
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