When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically? The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or may be
not?

Thanks,

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it
would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on
top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every
8" from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or
may be not?

Thanks,

MC

Wait for someone who knows what they're talking about before taking my
advice, but when I installed my sheetrock in the basement I did it oriented
in whatever way created less waste and less joints - case in point my walls
were 3 feet from ceiling to foundation wall. I cut a sheet into a 3x8
section and screwed it in - resulting in 2 joints instead of 3 (corners +
middle). As for how many screws, I put in as many as was required by code -
1 per 8" (I actually don't and didn't know what code was, so I put in screws
at what seemed a reasonable distance - about 10" or so really. They're just
screws and it doesn't take much time to put them in, plus when mudding and
taping you'll remove some that don't go all the way in.

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:21:38 -0400, "MiamiCuse"
wrote:

When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically? The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or may be
not?

Thanks,

MC


I don't see anything wrong standing 8 foot sheets. Put the cut
vertical in the corner for mud and tape.

I hang sheetrock horizontally, but that is me.

--
Oren

Hofstadter's Law - It [a task] always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

MiamiCuse wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically? The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or may be
not?

Whichever way creates the fewest seams w/ lengths to match the wall
lengths as well as feasible is my choice.

If you have full eight-ft ceilings with the little to spare (you don't
want a tight edge right at floor level), there's little likelihood of
needing any trimming at all at the ceiling either way -- an 1/8"
tolerance is a target, but 1/4" or even a half is not problem to mask
over w/ sheetrock -- it just ain't a precision medium...

If you're totally inexperienced, it could be simpler to get a decent job
quicker by avoiding any butt seams entirely which would indicate
vertically hanging them.

But, as for the ceiling tolerance, it's _far_ more important to hang the
first one vertically and aligned w/ the studs than it is to make a
perfect fit at the top because that will control all the rest going up
and hitting the studs on center for fastening adequately...

--

On Jul 29, 7:22 pm, dpb wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically? The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or may be
not?

Whichever way creates the fewest seams w/ lengths to match the wall
lengths as well as feasible is my choice.

If you have full eight-ft ceilings with the little to spare (you don't
want a tight edge right at floor level), there's little likelihood of
needing any trimming at all at the ceiling either way -- an 1/8"
tolerance is a target, but 1/4" or even a half is not problem to mask
over w/ sheetrock -- it just ain't a precision medium...

If you're totally inexperienced, it could be simpler to get a decent job
quicker by avoiding any butt seams entirely which would indicate
vertically hanging them.

But, as for the ceiling tolerance, it's _far_ more important to hang the
first one vertically and aligned w/ the studs than it is to make a
perfect fit at the top because that will control all the rest going up
and hitting the studs on center for fastening adequately...

--

I find it easier to mud horizontal joints than vertical ones, and a
horizontal joint that is 4' high is a very comfortable working height
for me, instead of having to work from floor to ceiling.

I like to glue the drywall to the studs with drywall adhesive from a
caulk gun. It still needs to be screwed down, but any screws that
aren't "quite right" when you go to mud can simply be removed.

JK

"Big_Jake" wrote in message
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On Jul 29, 7:22 pm, dpb wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it
would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on
top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier
for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws
every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or
may be
not?

Whichever way creates the fewest seams w/ lengths to match the wall
lengths as well as feasible is my choice.

If you have full eight-ft ceilings with the little to spare (you don't
want a tight edge right at floor level), there's little likelihood of
needing any trimming at all at the ceiling either way -- an 1/8"
tolerance is a target, but 1/4" or even a half is not problem to mask
over w/ sheetrock -- it just ain't a precision medium...

If you're totally inexperienced, it could be simpler to get a decent job
quicker by avoiding any butt seams entirely which would indicate
vertically hanging them.

But, as for the ceiling tolerance, it's _far_ more important to hang the
first one vertically and aligned w/ the studs than it is to make a
perfect fit at the top because that will control all the rest going up
and hitting the studs on center for fastening adequately...

--

I find it easier to mud horizontal joints than vertical ones, and a
horizontal joint that is 4' high is a very comfortable working height
for me, instead of having to work from floor to ceiling.

I like to glue the drywall to the studs with drywall adhesive from a
caulk gun. It still needs to be screwed down, but any screws that
aren't "quite right" when you go to mud can simply be removed.

JK


Yeah, mudding horizontally works for me too. When taping and mudding
vertically you have to change the knife direction at least once to get both
corners and that's inevitably where I screw the pooch. With a horizontal
seam you just start at a corner and drag the knife down the seam. But I'm
no pro.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it
would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on
top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?


No. It can be easy for one person to do horizontal with the right setup.
You slide the sheet up to the ceiling and wedge it in place. One you get
just a couple or screws, it will stay. You cut the bottom sheet with a tiny
bit of clearance to the floor to take up any unevenness. There is a foot
bracket that you can use to held it in place while putting screws in.

Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high and low
seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)



Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every
8" from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or
may be not?

The code says every 8" right? They mean every 8". When they change to
code to read "every 8" on the edges and put what you think looks right in
the center" you may use less.

"Big_Jake" wrote in message
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On Jul 29, 7:22 pm, dpb wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it
would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on
top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier
for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws
every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or
may be
not?

Whichever way creates the fewest seams w/ lengths to match the wall
lengths as well as feasible is my choice.

If you have full eight-ft ceilings with the little to spare (you don't
want a tight edge right at floor level), there's little likelihood of
needing any trimming at all at the ceiling either way -- an 1/8"
tolerance is a target, but 1/4" or even a half is not problem to mask
over w/ sheetrock -- it just ain't a precision medium...

If you're totally inexperienced, it could be simpler to get a decent job
quicker by avoiding any butt seams entirely which would indicate
vertically hanging them.

But, as for the ceiling tolerance, it's _far_ more important to hang the
first one vertically and aligned w/ the studs than it is to make a
perfect fit at the top because that will control all the rest going up
and hitting the studs on center for fastening adequately...

--

I find it easier to mud horizontal joints than vertical ones, and a
horizontal joint that is 4' high is a very comfortable working height
for me, instead of having to work from floor to ceiling.

I like to glue the drywall to the studs with drywall adhesive from a
caulk gun. It still needs to be screwed down, but any screws that
aren't "quite right" when you go to mud can simply be removed.

JK

That's a good point about the joint being horizontal.

Thanks,

MC

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so
it would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one
on top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier
for one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?


No. It can be easy for one person to do horizontal with the right setup.
You slide the sheet up to the ceiling and wedge it in place. One you get
just a couple or screws, it will stay. You cut the bottom sheet with a
tiny bit of clearance to the floor to take up any unevenness. There is a
foot bracket that you can use to held it in place while putting screws in.

Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high and low
seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)

That seems to be what everyone is saying so I probably will go with
horizontal hanging although I think by myself getting it up and stay put
with my right hand while I put a few screws in would be a chanllenge.



Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every
8" from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or
may be not?

The code says every 8" right? They mean every 8". When they change to
code to read "every 8" on the edges and put what you think looks right in
the center" you may use less.

Alright then that's what I would do.

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so
it would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally
(one on top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier
for one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?


No. It can be easy for one person to do horizontal with the right setup.
You slide the sheet up to the ceiling and wedge it in place. One you get
just a couple or screws, it will stay. You cut the bottom sheet with a
tiny bit of clearance to the floor to take up any unevenness. There is a
foot bracket that you can use to held it in place while putting screws
in.

Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high and low
seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)

That seems to be what everyone is saying so I probably will go with
horizontal hanging although I think by myself getting it up and stay put
with my right hand while I put a few screws in would be a chanllenge.



Watch yourself when you do that, hanging drywall by myself was exactly how I
developed tennis elbow - it ain't a fun ailment to have and it lasts and
lasts. Get help if you can, if not, take it slow and remember to use the
studs in the wall as friction helpers in keeping the wallboard up in
position. Electrical boxes can be your friend too, they provide the
necessary structure to take the load off your arms.


Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws
every 8" from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an
overkill, or may be not?

The code says every 8" right? They mean every 8". When they change to
code to read "every 8" on the edges and put what you think looks right in
the center" you may use less.

Alright then that's what I would do.

MC

MiamiCuse wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically? The
floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it would
work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on top, one
at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably easier
to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every 8"
from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or may be
not?

Thanks,

MC

I'm with the rest on this - hang it horizontally. A horizontal seam is
easier to mud and tape than a vertical. Unlike others, however, I'd say
do the ones at floor level first, then you can rest the upper ones on
the lower ones as you go.

Do, as another poster suggested, make sure you have them square with the
studs; if the floor itself is a little off, don't worry about it. That's
what baseboards are for.

Another word of advice - do a quick test fit of each sheet first. Mark
the centerline of the studs on the front of the sheet, top and bottom,
then snap a chalk line. This will help immensely when you're putting in
the screws; you won't be wondering if maybe you need to be an inch or so
one way or the other.

As for taping, I highly recommend the self-adhesive fiberglass tape. No
need to put down a first coat of compound, although you certainly can if
you want.

Yours aye,
W. Underhill
--
"Take sides! Always take sides! You may sometimes be wrong - but the man
who refuses to take sides must *always* be wrong! Heaven save us from
poltroons who fear to make a choice!" R.A. Heinlein, "Double Star"

I find it easier to mud horizontal joints than vertical ones, and a
horizontal joint that is 4' high is a very comfortable working height
for me, instead of having to work from floor to ceiling.

We have 9 ft ceilings so I ordered 54" wide sheetrock..12 ft long..
Two horizontal 54's is 9 feet.
That was for 2 of our downstairs bedrooms and bath.

Its hard to lift the big 54's UP though so for the next phase, I'm ordering
9 Ft sheets x 48" and will be going vertically.
That gives me ALL tapered edges to tape and mud..no butt joints.

MiamiCuse wrote:
Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high
and low seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)

That seems to be what everyone is saying so I probably will go with
horizontal hanging although I think by myself getting it up and
stay put with my right hand while I put a few screws in would be a
chanllenge.

If I were going to do that I'd temporarily nail on a 2x4 ledger as a
rest for the DW, put a small piece of ply twixt the two (after the DW
was resting) and use it as a jack/lever to lift. That's assuming you
are hanging the top piece first.


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That gives me ALL tapered edges to tape and mud..no butt joints.


The key in my view......

On Jul 29, 6:21 pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?

Do neither. Hire someone to install and finish the drywall unless it
is an activity that you really want to do. It will cost the same and
take much more time to do it yourself.

That said, I vote for staggered horizontal because it minimizes
repeating patterns, which are easily recognized.

"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so
it would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally
(one on top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier
for one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is
probably easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make
sense?


No. It can be easy for one person to do horizontal with the right
setup. You slide the sheet up to the ceiling and wedge it in place. One
you get just a couple or screws, it will stay. You cut the bottom sheet
with a tiny bit of clearance to the floor to take up any unevenness.
There is a foot bracket that you can use to held it in place while
putting screws in.

Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high and
low seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)

That seems to be what everyone is saying so I probably will go with
horizontal hanging although I think by myself getting it up and stay put
with my right hand while I put a few screws in would be a chanllenge.



Watch yourself when you do that, hanging drywall by myself was exactly how
I developed tennis elbow - it ain't a fun ailment to have and it lasts and
lasts. Get help if you can, if not, take it slow and remember to use the
studs in the wall as friction helpers in keeping the wallboard up in
position. Electrical boxes can be your friend too, they provide the
necessary structure to take the load off your arms.


Thanks for the advise!

MC

"The Reverend Natural Light" wrote in message
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On Jul 29, 6:21 pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?

Do neither. Hire someone to install and finish the drywall unless it
is an activity that you really want to do. It will cost the same and
take much more time to do it yourself.

That said, I vote for staggered horizontal because it minimizes
repeating patterns, which are easily recognized.

I can't believe the folks that still stand up sheetrock. Would you put
plywood vertically on the exterior? Would you run your Advantec with the
floor joists? The answers are no of course because it's not structually
sound.Same with sheetrock. It also hides irregularities(bowed or twisted
studs,ect.) better.4X12 sheets run horizontally is best unless it's steele
studs.

On Jul 29, 8:34?pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message

...

When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so it
would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally (one on
top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier for
one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?

No. It can be easy for one person to do horizontal with the right setup.
You slide the sheet up to the ceiling and wedge it in place. One you get
just a couple or screws, it will stay. You cut the bottom sheet with a tiny
bit of clearance to the floor to take up any unevenness. There is a foot
bracket that you can use to held it in place while putting screws in.

Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high and low
seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)



Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws every
8" from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an overkill, or
may be not?

The code says every 8" right? They mean every 8". When they change to
code to read "every 8" on the edges and put what you think looks right in
the center" you may use less.


I'm not sure what they mean by that myself. In order to follow that
code literally, it would require putting screws in between 16" on-
center studs. Before you say "Obviously they don't mean that. That
is ridiculous", I know that. The point is that you follow codes to
make sense. If it doesn't make sense, and it is not explicitly called
for in code, perhaps one needs to use judgement. The OP was asking a
question because a code was not specific.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
When you attach sheet rock do you attach it horizontally or vertically?
The floor to ceiling height is 8', and wall studs are spaced 16" OC, so
it would work either way, just curious if I should them horizontally
(one on top, one at bottom) or vertically?

I am leaning to installing them vertically simply because it is easier
for one person to handle, and any uneven-ness on the ceiling is probably
easier to deal with for a 4' width at a time. Does this make sense?


No. It can be easy for one person to do horizontal with the right setup.
You slide the sheet up to the ceiling and wedge it in place. One you get
just a couple or screws, it will stay. You cut the bottom sheet with a
tiny bit of clearance to the floor to take up any unevenness. There is a
foot bracket that you can use to held it in place while putting screws
in.

Now you have along seam to tape at a comfortable height, the high and low
seams are only half or a third (if you use 12" sheets)

That seems to be what everyone is saying so I probably will go with
horizontal hanging although I think by myself getting it up and stay put
with my right hand while I put a few screws in would be a chanllenge.

Just lean the sheet against the wall where it goes, start a drywall nail at
every stud about 2" or 3" down from top of sheet, raise it up, and hammer
away. Then you can screw it off.

Tim





Code calls for a screw every 8" so I would do that along the edges.
However, what about the two studs in the middle? Do you put screws
every 8" from top to bottom along those studs too, seems like an
overkill, or may be not?

The code says every 8" right? They mean every 8". When they change to
code to read "every 8" on the edges and put what you think looks right in
the center" you may use less.

Alright then that's what I would do.

MC