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Afraid to pull out the gas stove...
I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) |
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Thomas G. Marshall wrote:
I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) Just go slow and look behind the stove every few inches to make sure there are no kinks that could break. If it is a copper coil see about having it changed to an appliance connector. |
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Thomas G. Marshall wrote:
I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) More than likely, it is connected to the gas feed with CSST - Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing - which is probably yellow in color. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY |
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On Apr 19, 6:31 pm, willshak wrote:
Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) More than likely, it is connected to the gas feed with CSST - Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing - which is probably yellow in color. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY Yes, there is something you should know. That's where the a shutoff for the gas is located. And don't assume there is one behind the stove before you start to pull it out. Having the appropriate wrench, if needed, to shut it off is also a good idea. |
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Thomas G. Marshall wrote:
I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. |
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On Apr 19, 6:38 pm, wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:31 pm, willshak wrote: Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) More than likely, it is connected to the gas feed with CSST - Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing - which is probably yellow in color. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY Yes, there is something you should know. That's where the a shutoff for the gas is located. And don't assume there is one behind the stove before you start to pull it out. . . . . Around here, there's a whole-house, gas shutoff at the meter, e.g. http://lafd.org/equtils.htm http://www.rd.com/familyhandyman/content/18226/ -Jason |
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I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. There have been changes in gas codes over the years, and without having a professional installer on hand, it's difficult to predict what you have. Even then. Try to find the stove shut off, and shut it off before doing anything. Make the assumption that they have _something_ that will permit you to pull the stove out far enough to disconnect it. But, pull out real slow and keep rechecking to see what it is and whether it's getting kinked/stretched. If you're planning on disconnecting it (and/or reconnecting a new stove), I'd recommend getting an installer since you don't seem to have worked with gas before. Disconnecting seems easy, but the end really should be capped (and you don't necessarily know what cap you need until it's apart), and properly tested for leaks. Similarly, for reconnection, you may have to change connectors around, _and_ also test for leaks. -- Chris Lewis, Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. I would not be this stupid unless you really want a Darwin Award. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. |
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Roger Shoaf wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. I would not be this stupid unless you really want a Darwin Award. What if I didn't really want a Darwin Award? Would you be this stupid then? |
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HeyBub said something like:
Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. I don't understand what you're saying: Why wouldn't burning tobacco embers ignite either gas? Is it not burning hot enough to reach either flash point? |
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Afraid to pull out the gas stove...
HeyBub wrote:
Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. Thats about as accurate as the claim that running a diesel engine in a closed garage won't kill you. |
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Thomas G. Marshall said something like:
HeyBub said something like: Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. I don't understand what you're saying: Why wouldn't burning tobacco embers ignite either gas? Is it not burning hot enough to reach either flash point? I used the wrong term here, by the way. Flashpoint is the temperature at which a flammable liquid turns to gas (and can then ignite), not specifically the temperature required for an existing gas to ignite. In any case, without contentiousness, I do want to know what you mean. |
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"Thomas G. Marshall" . com wrote in message news:FRwWh.1638$oo5.1158@trndny06... Thomas G. Marshall said something like: HeyBub said something like: Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. I don't understand what you're saying: Why wouldn't burning tobacco embers ignite either gas? Is it not burning hot enough to reach either flash point? I used the wrong term here, by the way. Flashpoint is the temperature at which a flammable liquid turns to gas (and can then ignite), not specifically the temperature required for an existing gas to ignite. In any case, without contentiousness, I do want to know what you mean. A smoldering cigarette or cigar or whatever you are smoking will usually not ignite propane, butane, or even gasoline. You can extinguish a cigarette in gasoline (although I very much recommend you don't try). However, as you draw on whatever you are smoking, the air rushing across the burning material will cause the temperature of the burning material to increase, much like what happens when you blow on glowing embers to get them hot enough to burn. Certain components of whatever you are smoking might get hot enough to ignite the gas. So don't smoke when you work around gas. One deep toke on your smoke and BOOOOOMM! |
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Ook said something like:
"Thomas G. Marshall" . com wrote in message news:FRwWh.1638$oo5.1158@trndny06... Thomas G. Marshall said something like: HeyBub said something like: Thomas G. Marshall wrote: I have your basic bottom of the line 10 year old gas stove (from the town gas, not propane, dunno if it matters). I know nothing of how these are hooked up, and I seem to remember seeing elsewhere that they are often hooked up to the gas feed via a large copper coiled loop so that the stove can be pulled out. Question: Are there any worries about doing this that I should know about? (besides not smoking a cigar at the time) A cigar will not ignite natural gas or propane. Enjoy your smoke. I don't understand what you're saying: Why wouldn't burning tobacco embers ignite either gas? Is it not burning hot enough to reach either flash point? I used the wrong term here, by the way. Flashpoint is the temperature at which a flammable liquid turns to gas (and can then ignite), not specifically the temperature required for an existing gas to ignite. In any case, without contentiousness, I do want to know what you mean. A smoldering cigarette or cigar or whatever you are smoking will usually not ignite propane, butane, or even gasoline. You can extinguish a cigarette in gasoline (although I very much recommend you don't try). However, as you draw on whatever you are smoking, the air rushing across the burning material will cause the temperature of the burning material to increase, much like what happens when you blow on glowing embers to get them hot enough to burn. Certain components of whatever you are smoking might get hot enough to ignite the gas. So don't smoke when you work around gas. One deep toke on your smoke and BOOOOOMM! Actually, for the record, I don't smoke. Not even tires. No liquids burn, gasoline included. But the vapor does if there is molecular oxygen around (and an ignition or high enough temp). But if I put a smoldering cigarette over the gas flowing out of my stove top burner, you're saying that it usually will not ignite? Huh....I'll have to try that. |
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Afraid to pull out the gas stove...
Actually, for the record, I don't smoke. Not even tires. No liquids burn, gasoline included. But the vapor does if there is molecular oxygen around (and an ignition or high enough temp). But if I put a smoldering cigarette over the gas flowing out of my stove top burner, you're saying that it usually will not ignite? Huh....I'll have to try that. Maybe, maybe not. Propane needs to be heated to about 900 degrees or so before it will ignite. The flame of a match is probably about 1400 degrees or so, so it easily ignites the gas. A smoldering cigarette can approach 1200 degrees in the center of the hot part, but is only around 400 degrees at the outer glowing part. Gasoline ignites at about 475 degrees. We used to throw our cigarettes in a can of gasoline all the time, back in my auto mechanic days. It was a hoot watching the newbies react, they thought it was going to explode. Never once did it ignite the gas. Probably lucky for us that it didn't! Anyone here want to stick their cigarette in the gas from their stive and see if it lights? |
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"Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote in message ... Actually, for the record, I don't smoke. Not even tires. No liquids burn, gasoline included. But the vapor does if there is molecular oxygen around (and an ignition or high enough temp). But if I put a smoldering cigarette over the gas flowing out of my stove top burner, you're saying that it usually will not ignite? Huh....I'll have to try that. Maybe, maybe not. Propane needs to be heated to about 900 degrees or so before it will ignite. The flame of a match is probably about 1400 degrees or so, so it easily ignites the gas. A smoldering cigarette can approach 1200 degrees in the center of the hot part, but is only around 400 degrees at the outer glowing part. Gasoline ignites at about 475 degrees. We used to throw our cigarettes in a can of gasoline all the time, back in my auto mechanic days. It was a hoot watching the newbies react, they thought it was going to explode. Never once did it ignite the gas. Probably lucky for us that it didn't! Anyone here want to stick their cigarette in the gas from their stive and see if it lights? I already asked around for a cigarette....no one I know smokes, or otherwise readily have a cigarette hanging around, and I refuse to buy one of the @#$%ing things.... |
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