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I am thiking of buying a house that has a 15 ft deep pool and would like to fill it up. I am in Northern California and don't see the need for such a deep and very large pool. Does anyone know approximately how much this would cost or of any problems associated with filling up a pool? I would most likely put grass over it. Any input would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Kalpana |
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wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I am thiking of buying a house that has a 15 ft deep pool and would like to fill it up. I am in Northern California and don't see the need for such a deep and very large pool. Does anyone know approximately how much this would cost or of any problems associated with filling up a pool? I would most likely put grass over it. Any input would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Kalpana You want the short answer or the long answer? You want ridiculous speculation or you want facts? Let's start with the ridiculous short speculation first ..... Just fill it in. Now for the facts: Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. If you ever want to sell the house, you must disclose the pool's existence. At that time, depending on the lender, they may want you to redo the work according to code. A cash buyer may not, but you may take a hit on the price. Doing it according to code means this: A licensed contractor comes in and digs up all the stuff. They test the soil. They fill one foot of depth at a time, and a county test agent does a compaction test on it every foot. I know because we had a pool removed, and built an add on over the space. That is what was required. So, it depends on what you are going to do with the space, what your local laws are, if you ever intend to sell, and if you do ever sell do you intend to lie on the disclosure and ask, "Pool, what pool?" Which anyone who knows how to search public records could find. It is probably permanently in your county records of the history of the house, and will pop out forever in a real estate agent's investigation of the house records. I'd ask around where you live first, and not put too much stock in answers you get here. This is no small thing regarding your house, and it CAN surface later to bite you in a very painful place. HTH. Steve |
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Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. Hmmmm! Seems rather exorbitant. |
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"Steve B" wrote in message
... Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. You could have two acres of land sculpted with a bulldozer for half of that, at least in NY. Where was that price quote good for? What city & state? |
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"Charles Schuler" wrote in message . .. Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. Hmmmm! Seems rather exorbitant. Sounds absolutely ridiculous to me. But if you want it done according to the rules and laws of Clark County, Nevada, that is what a contractor wants. Even the Board of Health gets involved. $115,000 each was the low bid, too, and that does not include studies or permits. Even more ridiculous, the HOA first has to have a 100% unanimous agreement, with signed statements, that there is not ONE homeowner that considers the removal of the three pools to be a "downgrade" of the property. If one owner protests, they CAN NOT remove the pools. The consideration for removal of the pools is because of the aging population of the owners, advancing pool maintenance costs, replastering, service, maintaining all the iron fencing that is rusting, and the 30 year age of the property which means that everything is wearing out or falling down daily. The monthly HOA dues are reaching critical mass, but it is just because there is so much to be maintained, and it costs so much. In the old days, one would just fill a pool in. Welcome to today. The OP stated they were in California, which has their own special rules governing everything. The California Environmental Impact Studies will be $100,000 by itself! Then there will be the relocation costs for the insects and rodents displaced by the construction project. Easily another $100,000. This could affect the watering habits of pigeons in the area, thus requiring a special FEDERAL variance, another $100,000. And if it is proven the removal of the pool affects any endangered species, the whole house may just have to be buried...................... ;-) There is nothing simple any more. Don't you love progress, civilization, and the advances of humanity? Steve ;-) |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... "Charles Schuler" wrote in message . .. Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. Hmmmm! Seems rather exorbitant. Sounds absolutely ridiculous to me. But if you want it done according to the rules and laws of Clark County, Nevada, that is what a contractor wants. Even the Board of Health gets involved. $115,000 each was the low bid, too, and that does not include studies or permits. Even more ridiculous, the HOA first has to have a 100% unanimous agreement, with signed statements, that there is not ONE homeowner that considers the removal of the three pools to be a "downgrade" of the property. If one owner protests, they CAN NOT remove the pools. The consideration for removal of the pools is because of the aging population of the owners, advancing pool maintenance costs, replastering, service, maintaining all the iron fencing that is rusting, and the 30 year age of the property which means that everything is wearing out or falling down daily. The monthly HOA dues are reaching critical mass, but it is just because there is so much to be maintained, and it costs so much. In the old days, one would just fill a pool in. Welcome to today. The OP stated they were in California, which has their own special rules governing everything. The California Environmental Impact Studies will be $100,000 by itself! Then there will be the relocation costs for the insects and rodents displaced by the construction project. Easily another $100,000. This could affect the watering habits of pigeons in the area, thus requiring a special FEDERAL variance, another $100,000. And if it is proven the removal of the pool affects any endangered species, the whole house may just have to be buried...................... ;-) There is nothing simple any more. Don't you love progress, civilization, and the advances of humanity? I think we should start up a new company in Clark County, Nevada before this gold mine goes away. I thought Collier Country, Florida was ridiculous (and it is, but pales by comparison). |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. You could have two acres of land sculpted with a bulldozer for half of that, at least in NY. Where was that price quote good for? What city & state? Las Vegas, Nevada |
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"Charles Schuler" wrote I think we should start up a new company in Clark County, Nevada before this gold mine goes away. I thought Collier Country, Florida was ridiculous (and it is, but pales by comparison). IIRC, 7,000 people a month move to Las Vegas presently. The population is projected to be 4.3 million by 2030. Lots of people come here every day and start up new companies. Some of them even speak English. Steve |
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get an architect who can handle all the laws permits and contractors
related to what is elsewhere sometimes a do it yourself with a bulldozer and a dumptruck project. you probably have zoning, drainage, neighborhood restrictions. need right of ways from neighbors, may require california earthquake building code demands. what ever you do do not just drain it, the water in some pools is required to support the earth against collapse. as a pool owner this is a saddening project to consider. too bad, it sounds like a nice diving pool and is quite a valuable asset. before you go any farther think entertaining, breeze, neighbors, view, stars, fish, ducks, lighting, reflection pool, floating reflective mirrored globes. if only the pool depth scares you it can be made shallower. wrote: Hi, I am thiking of buying a house that has a 15 ft deep pool and would like to fill it up. I am in Northern California and don't see the need for such a deep and very large pool. Does anyone know approximately how much this would cost or of any problems associated with filling up a pool? I would most likely put grass over it. Any input would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Kalpana |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... "Charles Schuler" wrote I think we should start up a new company in Clark County, Nevada before this gold mine goes away. I thought Collier Country, Florida was ridiculous (and it is, but pales by comparison). IIRC, 7,000 people a month move to Las Vegas presently. The population is projected to be 4.3 million by 2030. Lots of people come here every day and start up new companies. Some of them even speak English. Same here. Nature abhors a vacuum: http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...+a+vacuum.html It's the ones who speak English who make the really big bucks. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I am thiking of buying a house that has a 15 ft deep pool and would like to fill it up. I am in Northern California and don't see the need for such a deep and very large pool. Does anyone know approximately how much this would cost or of any problems associated with filling up a pool? I would most likely put grass over it. Any input would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Kalpana Would make a nice wine seller, Bomb shelter or storage room. |
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Sacramento Dave wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I am thiking of buying a house that has a 15 ft deep pool and would like to fill it up. I am in Northern California and don't see the need for such a deep and very large pool. Does anyone know approximately how much this would cost or of any problems associated with filling up a pool? I would most likely put grass over it. Any input would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Kalpana Would make a nice wine seller, Bomb shelter or storage room. Cost me 3.5K including top soil and resodding. Pop` |
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"Steve B" wrote in message Even more ridiculous, the HOA first has to have a 100% unanimous agreement, with signed statements, that there is not ONE homeowner that considers the removal of the three pools to be a "downgrade" of the property. If one owner protests, they CAN NOT remove the pools. There is nothing simple any more. Don't you love progress, civilization, and the advances of humanity? Thank you for reminding me why I'd never live where there is an HOA. |
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Thank you for reminding me why I'd never live where there is an HOA. Amen to that. But, I'll admit that I am in that situation (for the second time) and will simply offer that life is a series of uncomfortable compromises. Happiness is finding the set of compromises that are the least onerous. |
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Charles Schuler wrote: Thank you for reminding me why I'd never live where there is an HOA. Amen to that. But, I'll admit that I am in that situation (for the second time) and will simply offer that life is a series of uncomfortable compromises. Happiness is finding the set of compromises that are the least onerous. I will admit I didnt think of permits and such . Where I live you can still do a lot of stuff without a lot of red tape. The only thing I could find locally is a 2' dig requirement . That is NOTHING is allowed within two feet of the ground level unless it shows above grade. So if you have post in the ground you cant just cut it off and bury it , youhave to dig it out. Your local town planning office is an obvious place to start . |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:36:38 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote: "Charles Schuler" wrote in message ... Filling in a swimming pool is not a simple thing. A friend of mine is president of a HOA, and they want to fill in three. Price per each, done according to code, $115,000 per pool. Hmmmm! Seems rather exorbitant. Sounds absolutely ridiculous to me. But if you want it done according to the rules and laws of Clark County, Nevada, that is what a contractor wants. Even the Board of Health gets involved. $115,000 each was the low bid, too, and that does not include studies or permits. Even more ridiculous, the HOA first has to have a 100% unanimous agreement, with signed statements, that there is not ONE homeowner that considers the removal of the three pools to be a "downgrade" of the property. If one owner protests, they CAN NOT remove the pools. The consideration for removal of the pools is because of the aging population of the owners, advancing pool maintenance costs, replastering, service, maintaining all the iron fencing that is rusting, and the 30 year age of the property which means that everything is wearing out or falling down daily. The monthly HOA dues are reaching critical mass, but it is just because there is so much to be maintained, and it costs so much. In the old days, one would just fill a pool in. Welcome to today. The OP stated they were in California, which has their own special rules governing everything. The California Environmental Impact Studies will be $100,000 by itself! Then there will be the relocation costs for the insects and rodents displaced by the construction project. Easily another $100,000. This could affect the watering habits of pigeons in the area, thus requiring a special FEDERAL variance, another $100,000. And if it is proven the removal of the pool affects any endangered species, the whole house may just have to be buried...................... ;-) There is nothing simple any more. Don't you love progress, civilization, and the advances of humanity? Steve ;-) What is the size of the pools including deck area? |
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"Ashton Crusher" wrote What is the size of the pools including deck area? I would estimate them to be 10,000 square feet or so. Steve |
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Steve B spake thus:
[...] In the old days, one would just fill a pool in. Welcome to today. The OP stated they were in California, which has their own special rules governing everything. The California Environmental Impact Studies will be $100,000 by itself! Then there will be the relocation costs for the insects and rodents displaced by the construction project. Easily another $100,000. This could affect the watering habits of pigeons in the area, thus requiring a special FEDERAL variance, another $100,000. And if it is proven the removal of the pool affects any endangered species, the whole house may just have to be buried...................... ;-) I think you're making this stuff up as you go along. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... Steve B spake thus: [...] In the old days, one would just fill a pool in. Welcome to today. The OP stated they were in California, which has their own special rules governing everything. The California Environmental Impact Studies will be $100,000 by itself! Then there will be the relocation costs for the insects and rodents displaced by the construction project. Easily another $100,000. This could affect the watering habits of pigeons in the area, thus requiring a special FEDERAL variance, another $100,000. And if it is proven the removal of the pool affects any endangered species, the whole house may just have to be buried...................... ;-) I think you're making this stuff up as you go along. You don't think ................. ;-) The previous I made up, but the part about the contractor wanting $115,000 each to fill three swimming pools at some nearby condos according to local code is a true story. Steve |
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On 20 Dec 2006 13:40:21 -0800, wrote:
Hi, I am thiking of buying a house that has a 15 ft deep pool and would like to fill it up. I am in Northern California and don't see the need for such a deep and very large pool. Does anyone know approximately how much this would cost or of any problems associated with filling up a pool? I would most likely put grass over it. Any input would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Kalpana Since my sewer bill is based on the water used (my water bill), I would find if you can get a discount, since the water you plan to use, will not end up in the sewer. Just thinking out loud.... tom @ www.Consolidated-Loans.info |
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