I think I have hired the slowest vinyl siding installer in the country.
It has taken him three months to do one square. At this rate it'll take
him five years to do the entire house. My concern is that by the time he
gets all the way around the house back to where he started, the first
part will have faded and may not match his more recent work. Would it be
wise to take the siding out of the boxes and lay it on the ground so
it'll be exposed to the sun and fade at the same rate as the siding on
the house?

Bob

wiser to hire him 2 speedy helpers.

RobertM wrote:
I think I have hired the slowest vinyl siding installer in the country.
It has taken him three months to do one square. At this rate it'll take
him five years to do the entire house. My concern is that by the time he
gets all the way around the house back to where he started, the first
part will have faded and may not match his more recent work. Would it be
wise to take the siding out of the boxes and lay it on the ground so
it'll be exposed to the sun and fade at the same rate as the siding on
the house?

Bob

"RobertM" wrote in message
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I think I have hired the slowest vinyl siding installer in the country. It
has taken him three months to do one square. At this rate it'll take him
five years to do the entire house. My concern is that by the time he gets
all the way around the house back to where he started, the first part will
have faded and may not match his more recent work. Would it be wise to take
the siding out of the boxes and lay it on the ground so it'll be exposed to
the sun and fade at the same rate as the siding on the house?

Bob

Whattya mean 3 months? He did one square in one day and hasn't returned
since? Or...what?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"RobertM" wrote in message
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I think I have hired the slowest vinyl siding installer in the country. It
has taken him three months to do one square. At this rate it'll take him
five years to do the entire house. My concern is that by the time he gets
all the way around the house back to where he started, the first part will
have faded and may not match his more recent work. Would it be wise to take
the siding out of the boxes and lay it on the ground so it'll be exposed to
the sun and fade at the same rate as the siding on the house?

Bob

Whattya mean 3 months? He did one square in one day and hasn't returned
since? Or...what?



He's been here a dozen times. Part of the problem is that I've paid him
at the beginning of the day for a full day's work so he has no incentive
to stay. Now I don't pay him until the end of the day which for him is
about two hours. I think I'll have to hire someone else but no one likes
to take over someone else's job and since the siding is all here, a new
company wouldn't be able to sell me anything except labor.
Bob

"RobertM" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"RobertM" wrote in message
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I think I have hired the slowest vinyl siding installer in the country.
It has taken him three months to do one square. At this rate it'll take
him five years to do the entire house. My concern is that by the time he
gets all the way around the house back to where he started, the first
part will have faded and may not match his more recent work. Would it be
wise to take the siding out of the boxes and lay it on the ground so
it'll be exposed to the sun and fade at the same rate as the siding on
the house?

Bob

Whattya mean 3 months? He did one square in one day and hasn't returned
since? Or...what?

He's been here a dozen times. Part of the problem is that I've paid him at
the beginning of the day for a full day's work so he has no incentive to
stay. Now I don't pay him until the end of the day which for him is about
two hours. I think I'll have to hire someone else but no one likes to take
over someone else's job and since the siding is all here, a new company
wouldn't be able to sell me anything except labor.
Bob

Fire him NOW. If another installer is uncomfortable continuing with someone
else's work, they only need to remove one "square" and start from scratch.
If this guy continues, things will only get worse. Who bought the siding?
You, or this installer? Call the supplier, explain the mess, and see if it
can be returned. Probably not, but they may be able to recommend a fully
functional person who can finish the job.

Repeat: Fire him NOW.

Is this called "taking advantage of someone's good nature"?

I agree though......only common sense..to get rid of the
problem........and start from scratch.

Sounds like he hasnt a clue of how to do siding....so it will probably
all fall off anyhow sooner or later..........get someone who knows what
their doin'.

You might be better off going to a supplier and mention that
a "contractor friend" just started a job and cannot finish the job and
see who they can recommend to do the job over and finish
whats been started. The only reason why I would not mention
the real story is if they know the guy doing the job word may get
back to him.



RobertM wrote:
I think I have hired the slowest vinyl siding installer in the country.
It has taken him three months to do one square. At this rate it'll take
him five years to do the entire house. My concern is that by the time he
gets all the way around the house back to where he started, the first
part will have faded and may not match his more recent work. Would it be
wise to take the siding out of the boxes and lay it on the ground so
it'll be exposed to the sun and fade at the same rate as the siding on
the house?

Bob

avid_hiker wrote:
Is this called "taking advantage of someone's good nature"?

I agree though......only common sense..to get rid of the
problem........and start from scratch.

Sounds like he hasnt a clue of how to do siding....so it will probably
all fall off anyhow sooner or later..........get someone who knows what
their doin'.


This is for a room I just added on. The other part of the house was done
by a company that brought in three men and completed the entire job in
one day, but it was the sloppiest job I've ever seen so I brought in a
different person to do the entire house over. This man's work won't fall
off, it's good and looks good but I just can't get him to do the job. A
friend told me that after 200 years of inbreeding in the rural south,
the motivation gene is missing. I'll see if I can find someone else. I
paid the contractor for the siding separate from the labor so I can't
return it to where he bought it.

Bob

"RobertM" wrote in message
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avid_hiker wrote:
Is this called "taking advantage of someone's good nature"?

I agree though......only common sense..to get rid of the
problem........and start from scratch.

Sounds like he hasnt a clue of how to do siding....so it will probably
all fall off anyhow sooner or later..........get someone who knows what
their doin'.


This is for a room I just added on. The other part of the house was done
by a company that brought in three men and completed the entire job in one
day, but it was the sloppiest job I've ever seen so I brought in a
different person to do the entire house over. This man's work won't fall
off, it's good and looks good but I just can't get him to do the job. A
friend told me that after 200 years of inbreeding in the rural south, the
motivation gene is missing. I'll see if I can find someone else. I paid
the contractor for the siding separate from the labor so I can't return it
to where he bought it.

Bob


What does he say about the issue, or haven't you discussed it with him?

"RobertM" wrote in message
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avid_hiker wrote:
Is this called "taking advantage of someone's good nature"?

I agree though......only common sense..to get rid of the
problem........and start from scratch.

Sounds like he hasnt a clue of how to do siding....so it will probably
all fall off anyhow sooner or later..........get someone who knows what
their doin'.


This is for a room I just added on. The other part of the house was done
by a company that brought in three men and completed the entire job in one
day, but it was the sloppiest job I've ever seen so I brought in a
different person to do the entire house over. This man's work won't fall
off, it's good and looks good but I just can't get him to do the job. A
friend told me that after 200 years of inbreeding in the rural south, the
motivation gene is missing. I'll see if I can find someone else. I paid
the contractor for the siding separate from the labor so I can't return it
to where he bought it.

Bob

You paid the contractor? Are you sure he paid the supplier for the siding?
You may have a bigger problem than you think And if you fire the
contractor, you'd best have the siding locked up where he can't lay his
hands on it or you may not have the siding for the next contractor to work
with. Furthermore, I would insist on a release of mechanics lein on the
siding. You might check the siding supplier to see if it's been paid for.

Tom G

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"RobertM" wrote in message
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avid_hiker wrote:
Is this called "taking advantage of someone's good nature"?

I agree though......only common sense..to get rid of the
problem........and start from scratch.

Sounds like he hasnt a clue of how to do siding....so it will probably
all fall off anyhow sooner or later..........get someone who knows what
their doin'.


This is for a room I just added on. The other part of the house was done
by a company that brought in three men and completed the entire job in
one day, but it was the sloppiest job I've ever seen so I brought in a
different person to do the entire house over. This man's work won't fall
off, it's good and looks good but I just can't get him to do the job. A
friend told me that after 200 years of inbreeding in the rural south, the
motivation gene is missing. I'll see if I can find someone else. I paid
the contractor for the siding separate from the labor so I can't return
it to where he bought it.

Bob

You paid the contractor? Are you sure he paid the supplier for the
siding? You may have a bigger problem than you think And if you fire the
contractor, you'd best have the siding locked up where he can't lay his
hands on it or you may not have the siding for the next contractor to work
with. Furthermore, I would insist on a release of mechanics lein on the
siding. You might check the siding supplier to see if it's been paid for.

Tom G

Good points, but ugly ones. This is getting interesting.

A
friend told me that after 200 years of inbreeding in the rural south, the
motivation gene is missing.

Too Funny!!! :-)

For the next contractor....might be best to find someone not so rural.
Or get some do it yourself videos.........study them ....and DIY.

"RobertM" wrote in message
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This man's work won't fall off, it's good and looks good but I just can't
get him to do the job. Bob


1 man does not make a sidewalling crew
it takes 2 at the minimum

the one thing about vinyl siding is:
if it is not done right you will have more damage than without the new
siding.

problems consist of:
improper channeling creating water traps
wrong overlaps in pieces
mold problems due to water getting behind the siding
nails too tight causing buckling
improper expansion lengths
improper flashing / coil stock

anyone who uses caulking with vinyl has done it wrong.