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This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes:
I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) Years (decades, actually) ago I replaced the speed control which I got from Sears. The drill has worked since, but not correctly, so evidently I screwed up when I put it back together. I think I had to resolder some wires to the reversing switch, which is where I think the problem is. Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. Field and armature coils are all good (tested with ohmmeter). So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do. Please resist the urge to post if you want to tell me * to buy a new tool (this is my favorite drill) * I ought to learn a whole lot more about electricity * I should leave this kind of repair to "professionals" * I should have noted the wiring when I first opened it up. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) Years (decades, actually) ago I replaced the speed control which I got from Sears. The drill has worked since, but not correctly, so evidently I screwed up when I put it back together. I think I had to resolder some wires to the reversing switch, which is where I think the problem is. Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. Field and armature coils are all good (tested with ohmmeter). So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do. Please resist the urge to post if you want to tell me * to buy a new tool (this is my favorite drill) * I ought to learn a whole lot more about electricity * I should leave this kind of repair to "professionals" * I should have noted the wiring when I first opened it up. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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buffalobill spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) http://www3.sears.com Thanks, but sorry, already looked there. Oddly, they list all parts for this model drill, but everything is unavailable, including two instruction sheets, which may or may not have a wiring diagram. (There's an exploded parts diagram, but it doesn't have a schematic.) Further info: the drill is wired so that the field and armature are in series. (The reversing switch flips the polarity of the armature with respect to the field.) Is this typically the way these drills work? -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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Just buy another drill. They're cheap.
If you insist on doing this repair, you really should learn more about electricity before you tackle the job. You could be electrocuted. Spend the winter going to a technical college. Since you obviously lack that knowledge, dont touch it until you get an education on electricity. Otherwise, take it to a professional repair shop, but be prepared to pay more than the worth of the drill. But you reap what you sow. If you had left the pros do the job in the first place, or at least labelled the wires, you would not have this problem now. I hope you learned from this mistake. If by chance you figured out how to procreate, you could always send the drill to your sons Junior High School for their electricity classes. They'll take it apart, learn from it, and then repair it for you. (for free). Tom --------- On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:04:57 -0800, David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) Years (decades, actually) ago I replaced the speed control which I got from Sears. The drill has worked since, but not correctly, so evidently I screwed up when I put it back together. I think I had to resolder some wires to the reversing switch, which is where I think the problem is. Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. Field and armature coils are all good (tested with ohmmeter). So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do. Please resist the urge to post if you want to tell me * to buy a new tool (this is my favorite drill) * I ought to learn a whole lot more about electricity * I should leave this kind of repair to "professionals" * I should have noted the wiring when I first opened it up. |
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David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) Years (decades, actually) ago I replaced the speed control which I got from Sears. The drill has worked since, but not correctly, so evidently I screwed up when I put it back together. I think I had to resolder some wires to the reversing switch, which is where I think the problem is. Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. Field and armature coils are all good (tested with ohmmeter). So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do. Please resist the urge to post if you want to tell me * to buy a new tool (this is my favorite drill) * I ought to learn a whole lot more about electricity * I should leave this kind of repair to "professionals" * I should have noted the wiring when I first opened it up. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
.... I need a wiring diagram for ...variable-speed...reversible drill. ... ...I replaced the speed control ...has worked since, but not correctly ... Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. ... If it runs and variable speed is functional, it isn't a simple wiring problem. The spitzen-sparken and erratic running at low speed is indicative of the brushes not fitting correctly. I'd hazard a guess the combination of "cleaning" the commutator and perhaps turning the brushes around or otherwise getting them mis-aligned is the primary problem... |
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dpb spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: ... I need a wiring diagram for ...variable-speed...reversible drill. ... ...I replaced the speed control ...has worked since, but not correctly ... Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. ... If it runs and variable speed is functional, it isn't a simple wiring problem. The spitzen-sparken and erratic running at low speed is indicative of the brushes not fitting correctly. I'd hazard a guess the combination of "cleaning" the commutator and perhaps turning the brushes around or otherwise getting them mis-aligned is the primary problem... Then you'd guess wrong. Reread my original post. The drill runs without *any* sparking at low speeds. At medium speed it runs with the normal amount of sparking expected from such a motor. The brushes are clean and fit the commutator well. It only sparks at high speed. At this point, my question is a simple one. I direct this to ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THE ANSWER AND CAN GIVE IT MINUS A LECTURE ON LEARNING BASIC ELECTRICAL PRINCIPLES (which I do know): Are drills like these wired with the field and armature in series (as it is now) or in parallel? Simple question. (Sorry for shouting above!) -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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buffalobill spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/toolparts.html Your earlier link (Sears itself) was better. This place doesn't carry parts for Sears/Craftsman. Pretty sure only Sears itself does that. Didn't you check the list before you posted this? -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4571ce59$0$5806
: buffalobill spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/toolparts.html Your earlier link (Sears itself) was better. This place doesn't carry parts for Sears/Craftsman. Pretty sure only Sears itself does that. Didn't you check the list before you posted this? And maybe you should check what you originally wrote in your initial request...to whit: quote on "So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do." quote off Seems to me that his site referal fufills the second statement........ :-) |
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propman spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4571ce59$0$5806 : buffalobill spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/toolparts.html Your earlier link (Sears itself) was better. This place doesn't carry parts for Sears/Craftsman. Pretty sure only Sears itself does that. Didn't you check the list before you posted this? And maybe you should check what you originally wrote in your initial request...to whit: You meant to type "to wit", no? quote on "So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do." quote off Seems to me that his site referal fufills the second statement........ :-) Have you checked either of the sites he sent links to? Neither has wiring diagrams for *anything*. I checked. Nada. Zip. Lots of exploded parts diagrams, though. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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other drill users may find this text informative:
http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_ap...ml#APPFAQC_008 and other repair faq save this link: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_Repair.html David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) Years (decades, actually) ago I replaced the speed control which I got from Sears. The drill has worked since, but not correctly, so evidently I screwed up when I put it back together. I think I had to resolder some wires to the reversing switch, which is where I think the problem is. Here's the deal: it works, but not like it used to. At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. No sparks from the brushes. At medium speeds it runs a little smoother with minimal sparking, about what you'd expect. At high speed, it runs with a lot of sparking, more than it should. The commutator is in good condition: I cleaned it and scraped out all the built-up crap between the contact bars. Brushes are in good shape. Field and armature coils are all good (tested with ohmmeter). So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do. Please resist the urge to post if you want to tell me * to buy a new tool (this is my favorite drill) * I ought to learn a whole lot more about electricity * I should leave this kind of repair to "professionals" * I should have noted the wiring when I first opened it up. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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![]() David Nebenzahl wrote: dpb spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote: ... .... ...At slow speeds, it feels like it's "chugging" or cogging. ... If it runs and variable speed is functional, it isn't a simple wiring problem. The spitzen-sparken and erratic running at low speed is indicative of the brushes not fitting correctly. I'd hazard a guess the combination of "cleaning" the commutator and perhaps turning the brushes around or otherwise getting them mis-aligned is the primary problem... Then you'd guess wrong. Reread my original post. The drill runs without *any* sparking at low speeds. ... It also runs (as the _retained_ quote _from_ your original post shows) poorly. A very good description, in fact of what poorly fitting brushes or damaged/rough commutator edges act like. Was simply trying to point out an area that seems more likely than miswiring, but if you know better then fix it as you see fit. .... BASIC ELECTRICAL PRINCIPLES (which I do know): Are drills like these wired with the field and armature in series (as it is now) or in parallel? Simple question. (Sorry for shouting above!) Then you obviously must know how motors work and have the answer to your question available by applying same. |
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dpb spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: dpb spake thus: Are drills like these wired with the field and armature in series (as it is now) or in parallel? Simple question. (Sorry for shouting above!) Then you obviously must know how motors work and have the answer to your question available by applying same. I know how motors like this work *in general*, but obviously I don't know this specific detail--whether the field & armature should be connected in series or parallel. That's why I asked the question. If you know the answer, it would be appreciated. -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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![]() "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... dpb spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote: dpb spake thus: Are drills like these wired with the field and armature in series (as it is now) or in parallel? Simple question. (Sorry for shouting above!) Then you obviously must know how motors work and have the answer to your question available by applying same. I know how motors like this work *in general*, but obviously I don't know this specific detail--whether the field & armature should be connected in series or parallel. That's why I asked the question. If you know the answer, it would be appreciated. Google "universal motors"... |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in news:457240a3$0$5782
: propman spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4571ce59$0 $5806 : buffalobill spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote: This is so simple, I feel kind of foolish posting it, but here goes: I need a wiring diagram for my garden-variety 3/8" variable-speed reversible drill. (It happens to be a Craftsman, but is the same as hundreds of other similar tools.) http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/toolparts.html Your earlier link (Sears itself) was better. This place doesn't carry parts for Sears/Craftsman. Pretty sure only Sears itself does that. Didn't you check the list before you posted this? And maybe you should check what you originally wrote in your initial request...to whit: You meant to type "to wit", no? Nope.........asshole! quote on "So I'd sure appreciate it if someone could post a (link to) a wiring diagram for this tool. Like I said, any similar variable-speed reversible consumer-quality drill will do." quote off Seems to me that his site referal fufills the second statement........ :-) Have you checked either of the sites he sent links to? Neither has wiring diagrams for *anything*. I checked. Nada. Zip. Wrong again, asshole.......it clearly shows wiring DIAGRAMS.......if you want the SCHEMATIC then you should have asked for the SCHEMATIC! Lots of exploded parts diagrams, though. Take your ****ing attitude and shove it where the sun don't shine......... |
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propman spake thus:
Take your ****ing attitude and shove it where the sun don't shine......... What's the problem--got a low threshold? off your meds? -- Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) |
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 11:08:08 -0800, David Nebenzahl
wrote: Reread my original post. The drill runs without *any* sparking at low speeds. At medium speed it runs with the normal amount of sparking expected from such a motor. The brushes are clean and fit the commutator well. It only sparks at high speed. At this point, my question is a simple one. I direct this to ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THE ANSWER AND CAN GIVE IT MINUS A LECTURE ON LEARNING BASIC ELECTRICAL PRINCIPLES (which I do know): Are drills like these wired with the field and armature in series (as it is now) or in parallel? Simple question. (Sorry for shouting above!) MOST power tool motors are wired in series. Heavy sparking at high speed is indicative of bad brushes or loose comutator bars, One loose commutator bar will not have to move much at the speed these armatures rotate to cause arcing. John Normile |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4573b83b$0$5803
: propman spake thus: Take your ****ing attitude and shove it where the sun don't shine......... What's the problem--got a low threshold? off your meds? See above.......and apply. |
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replying to tom________, ED wrote:
Tom I am reading this 13 years after you wrote it and you are probably still an asshole. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ll-171417-.htm |
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